Sanchez is playing very well, to be sure. But he's not the sole reason that team is 3-0. The Jets are playing well as a team.

Oh it's absolutely a team effort. Everybody is pulling their weight, including the ROOKIE Quarterback.

:shrug:

You can't possibly be serious? Oh wait....

To me, putting huge numbers ina a very talented offense sin't the criteria that defines a great QB.

Drew Brees is putting up remarkable numbers, but when he can deliver consisitently in tough situations, in games whenthe saints need him to make plays, then he becomes a top tier QB.

Until I see that, and he hasn't done that yet, he is nothing more than a Trent Green type QB who puyts up big numbers behind an outstanding O-Line, with more talent at WR.

The thing is, most of us that wanted to draft Sanchez alos wanted to go O-Line heavy in the draft (a deep O-line draft) and let Sanchex sit while the O-Line developed.

We wouldbn't expect him to be a savior behind this crap O-Line, and speaking for myself, I don't expect Cassel to be either.

However, I do expect Sanchez to be a much better QB over his career than Cassel.

Failure to recognize that Sanchez has made plays to contribute to the Jets winning is simply failure.

He's not The reerunian for nothing.

LOL..when you have no clue what youre talking about you should be quiet. he brought the Jets from behind in the last 2 games. and the offense didnt do a turtle job after the Texans made it a close game in the opener.

I never said he hasn't made plays. I said they are winning because of the defense. That's a fact. Sanchez playing for the Rams and they are still 0-3.

And outside of Colston, New Orleans doesn't have great WR's. Comparing Brees to Trent Green is the failure. Green was never as good as Brees is now.

Don't you have some USC's players taint to be tonguing?

When has Brees played from behind and made big plays?

He's playing great when playing with a lead, but hasn't been tested.

I'm not saying that he will fail in the clutch, only that he hasn't had to play in the clutch.

Until he does, he is just another QB putting up big numbers, just like Trent Green.

He's not playing for the Rams.

He's playing for the Jets.

If he doesn't make the plays he's making, Jets lose, that defense notwithstanding.

Green was a guy that could turn around and hand off to a 1500-1700 yard back. Brees hasn't had that. So he's had to carry the load exclusively. Green NEVER had to do that in Kansas City and that alone makes a difference. Not to mention a playoff win by Brees as well.

Donger your subtly in stirring shit may be the best I've ever seen.

If he doesn't have that defense they aren't even in a position for his plays to matter.

THAT is the point. The Jets winning with defense. Sanchez threw for less than 180 yards the last two games each. He's not being asked to do THAT much.

Sanchez will be asked, more than likely, to win a game today. Because the Saints are going to score points and their defense looks to be pretty good. So we'll see how he does in a situation where he is asked to score points to keep up.

No dumbass, that isn't the point.

It's a ****ing team game, and you are dismissing a guy making clutch plays in big situations simply because the defense is playing well.

I got news for ya.
Defenses don't score more points than the opposition very often.
The offense is generally charged with the task of scoring points, and the Jets offense, with Mark Sanchez at the helm, making plays, is scoring more points than the other team.

Time to come up for air and either spit or swallow.
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You are obviously in need of some air, Pioli Smoker.

It's good thing you decided to do it.

I haven't thrown any barbs in this discussion and right off the bat you come at me with the dumbass. Nice.

I know it's a team game. I've spent more time playing it than you have using your fucking metamucil and drinking ensure. But the fact is Sanchez is being carried by his defense. When you're throwing for 168 yard you're not "winning" games. You're just not losing them. When you're defense is only allowing 15 points a game you don't have to make a lot of "clutch" plays to win games. Just don't fuck it up. So far that's what he has done. Today we'll see what happens if the Saints hang 30 on them and he's asked to keep up. I don't think he'll fare so well.

When your ground game isn't producing at the level you expected, and you put your team in third and long situations consistently, and your QB keeps making good decisions and making plays consistently in those 3rd and long situations, he isn't simply not losing games.

He's making plays to help you win games.

Like I said, we'll see what happens if New Orleans hangs 30+ on them. Playing tight games is one thing, having to play in a come from behind situation in a high scoring game on the road is something completely different.

Watching Playbook NFC right now, and Brian Billick says that the Jets are winning right now because Sanchez is making plays.

I guess he should have consulted with the Guardian before he made that assessment, since the Guardian has played so much junior college football.

Oops!


Sanchez is the real deal. He is a franchise QB and is playing as such...

BTW, nobody, nobody in the NFL is talking about our QB...

But if you are a dumbass hes only telling the truth. so it's not a barb.

You are a dumbass. I have to agree

The Guardian gave me a neg rep and told me to suck a fat babies dick..lol..but he wouldnt reply to my post where I owned him :D

Also, his rep is just as weak as his knowledge on this subject.

They sure were when he played in New England and had an NFL caliber offensive line. And I'm sure the fact that Sanchez plays in New York has nothing to do with the hype.
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Good to see you around the water cooler.

Hope you're doing well. Congrats on the strong start to the reg. season.

The only thing you own in life is a bad case of herpes. You certainly can't carry my jock when it comes to football. But if you want to suck off Sanchez you'll have to get in line behind Mecca and Milkman.

Nobody is talking about the rest of our team, either. The whole team sucks. That has nothing to do with Cassel.

Well, sure he's making plays. His OL gives him time to do this.

When you respond to my post you can show me how much you know about football..I'm still waiting for that response ;)

And your juvenile name calling and whining and crying only prove my point. getting upset is a sure sign of an ass pounding over the subject..lol

LMAO

You need to learn a new thought or at least learn to think for yourself. Evolve.

Who do we have on this staff that was ever a NE assistant? Who do we have coaching on this staff that coached with the Pats at all?

Oh wait I forget, because coordinators that have left NE have not had much success that also means Pioli will suck even though he was an executive.

:rolleyes:

Hey, Guardian -- where'd you play college ball at? I'm not attempting to make fun of you or anything; I'm a big fan of small-school football.

I'm not disputing that, though if you watch, you will see that he has been making plays even when under pressure.

What I'm doing is disputing the notion that the Jets are winnig simply because Mark Sanchez is not losing games for them.

He's making plays, even in in tough third and long situations.

No.
Especially in tough third and long situations.

Only from the mind of a ****ing Chiefs True Fan could this shit come.

You might as well talk to a wall when dealing with a Casshole.

If you dispute hte Jets are winning because of Sanchez, then you are a ****ing tard who should off themselves immediately.

The guy is going to be a stud, pure and simple.

The Guardian makes Herm Edwards actually look competent.

Congrats D12. I'm hoping the Chiefs turn around after getting rid of Herm like the Jets did someday.

I like em both, but Sanchez looks like he could be special, while Cassel looks like he might just be above average. You can win a super bowl with either, but if you go with Cassel your team has to be rock solid to incredible in all the other phases of the game.

Sanchez - you just have to hang in there, and he'll win it for you if it's close. If the Jets d can't stop the Saints for some reason, we will see what kind of QB he really is with a three touchdown deficit going into the second half.

I agree completely. He is making plays. The whole team is playing well. Especially the D. Plus, they can run the ball. Even though I am a supporter of Cassel, Sanchez has been sacked just as many times.

And that's what the "Kansas City Way"( that's right, enough of that NE terminology FFS )is going to be about.

You can't have all world at every position, so you build a roster comprised of slightly above average players at each position as you try to make your backups better than the other teams backups.
And the result is a whole that is greater than the sum of it's parts. Hopefully.

Whelp, today is judgment day for the trade for Cassel. Cassel faces an undefeated team today as well as Sanchez. Clearly Sanchez comes out victorious today while Cassel loses, the Chiefs made a mistake in not drafting Sanchez.

I told you idiot Sanchez poke smokers that you were full of shit. You have no clue as to what you are fucking talking about.

I saw a guy today that has no field presence, no clock in his head, can't read a defense, and can only throw screens and quick slants. I told you he'd shit the bed when he got behind and was forced to win a game.

The Jets have been winning because of defense. Hell, they had a chance to get back in it today because of that defense even though Sanchez gave the Saints 14 points all by himself.

He's no Matt Ryan or Flacco. And you guys who thought so are football mental midgets, and don't have a god damned clue as to what you are talking about.

Go **** yourself reerunian, you knew nothing and you know nothing.
Jets will go 500 as I said to you before, and Sanchez will be a big part of it.
You're a ****ing clown; go die in a fire.

He's a rookie you dumbass.

Matt Ryan had game last year when he looked like absolute crap, including three games in which he had a QB rating below 60.

Like every other rookie QB, he's going to have bad games.

You are just a real dumbass that thinks because he he played some junior college ball that you know shit.

But you don't know jack.

You are ****ing blowhard who ain't got the ****ing brains that God gave to a grain of sand.

You just saved me several key strokes. :D

I called this game like this you fucking moron. I said he won't be able to go on the road, get behind, and play worth a shit. Guess what? HE COULD'T! Anyone who knows a god damned thing about football, which isn't you, knows that the Jets have been winning because of defense. Sanchez has done nothing but been along for the ride. Now go finish swallowing his load you choad. You weren't saying he was a rookie when they were winning. The fact is he hasn't played well, but the defense has bailed him out over and over again. It's just today they couldn't and he got exposed. Anyone who thinks he's worth two shits is a moron.

Well, atleast you were only off by 256 yards. And Sanchez looked magnificent.

Denzel Washington really ****ed up The Guardians in Man On Fire.

??? .500

And Donger is a fcvking moron too.

Carry on.

I believe you'll find that your lack of, shall we say, etiquette, along with your obvious diminished typing skills, (COULD'T?) will only lend itself to the already festering notion that you are a complete waste of every one's time. The ignore function was created for people just like you.

The reerunian is here to carry on his legacy.

And I didn't give a rat's ass about the one single ****ing game on the road, which is why I never addressed that aspect of any of your dumb ****ing posts you useles dumb****.

And I never said that the Jets weren't winning because of defense you useless piece of shit dumb****in junior college coach's dick sucking moron.

I said that that Mark Sanchez was making plays in the previous game to help the Jets to those wins, because you can't ****ing win unless you score more poists than the other ****ing team, you halfwitted cum stained, ass licker.

This is like arguing with someone who has a head injury. Save yourself the time and trouble.

Iggy is your friend.

:)

This is far and away the worst noob season ever.

I've noticed that as well. Of course, after 2 miserable Herm seasons in a row, combined with our start this year, I don't really expect to see the board filled with any happy go lucky, sunshine and butterflies, n00bs any time soon.

But the fact is Sanchez has not been making plays to help his team win. And they went over that pretty thoroughly today in the highlights (or lowlights I guess you could say) of his first 3 games.

And have a meltdown old f@ggot. It's enjoyable to watch you cum guzzler.

Don't you have some Sanchez nuts to be juggling you fucking window licking inbred?

Nah.

I have never used the ignore feature.

I consider it my job to fight dumbassey whenever it rears it's ugly head.

And this is the ugliest rearing ever.

We got an influx with Patriots fans more than anything...

LOL.

I'm not sure if that's funnier of if reerunian is funnier because he really believes what he is saying while pissing off a poster that rarely ever gets pissed.

Good luck, Beowulf. I hear that Grendel is hard to kill. :D

So noted. Yeeesh.

I don't know who "they" are, but the guys on NFL Network, including Brian Billick, were talking about the plays he was making in the first three games to help the Jets to those wins this morning.

A fact I pointed out this morning.

Why did you wait til now to say anything about the guys talking about him this morning?

My guess is you are making the shit up, because in your state of dumbassery, you actually think someone will buy your bullshit.

Galactic stupidity was a staple crop here at Chiefsplanet long before many of these n00bs arrived.

They just do their damage control posts,, so I wonder if they are members of all forums where Pats assistants got jobs...

I bet that's fun in Cleveland and Notre Dame.

That's the truth. Sanchez will be fine. The reality is, as much as everyone wants to pimp their guy... none of these guys are experienced or good enough yet to consistently play when the offensive line allows a lot of pressure.

Only real concerning thing is that Sanchez is on pace to have something like 24 fumbles.

He needs to hold onto the ball, but all rookies have turnover issues, hell Peyton jacked up like 30 INT's his rookie year.

Bet Baltimore's asst. coaches fair better. Ask SF and Cincy.

"They" were the guys commenting the game today. Sanchez fumbles his nuts away every game, has had a shitton of dropped picks to go with the ones he has thrown. The guy stares down WR's and has no clock presence or field presence. Yeah he's a rookie but he doesn't look anything like Ryan or Flacco did last year. He's lacking some serious instincts that those two showed even as rookies.

See you can't even follow. I wasn't. and like I said, I called this shit this morning. Because I'm a football smart MF'er. Unlike you Sanchez homos.

So Sanchez had his first rookie game today, just got home and they were talking about it on FOX. Bradshaw and Jimmy Johnson didn't seem like it was that big of deal, Strahan said it was a wakeup call that will help him in the future.

If reerunian is smart, I fear for our country.

Sanchez has done some good things. I think he's going to be a solid QB. But am I convinced he'd be doing so much better than Cassel is behind this offensive line? No.

Stafford would probably do better than both of them... he spent all of last season running around behind a bad offensive line, and is playing for the Lions now.

Football smart, my ass.

You are a dum**** in every possible way.

The fact that you think you know shit because you played junior college football, a level that isn't even as good as high school football, a level that only takes the scrubs who weren't good enough to excel on their high school team, who not even the lowest level of 4 year colleges were interested in, supports the fact that you haven't a ****ing clue.

Dierdorf had a good comment at the end of the broadcast.

He said that this day was coming eventually, it might as well come against a really good team on the road.

I don't know about our country but my wits have certainly been assaulted.

Where's DaFace maybe we can get his user name changed to The reerunian.