Sure... and I think SD (right now) is the only team that could expect to win a playoff game, especially on the road.

Hate to say it man, and I'm sure you know, but losing Elvis for possibly the entire season just wrecked your team bad. I think the Broncos had a decent chance winning the west, but not anymore.

There's no doubt that it's a big loss, but it remains to be seen if they fall to the bottom of the league. I mean, I did read quite a bit around here about how he was a bit over-rated and not worth the cash they just paid him. :) So, if you all were right with those comments... it won't be as devastating, right?

That is strange, isn't it? LMAO

B b b b b b b but he had that ONE amazing catch when he was at San Fran. That one catch means he is a potential future HOFer!

Enh, their defense pulled a 180 when the losing streak started.

They were 6-0, then lost @ Baltimore and to the Steelers - which I don't think many believed they would win. They screwed the pooch vs WAS, thanks defense and then laid an egg vs SD.

All of a sudden, 6-0 is 6-4.

They beat the Giants and then the Chiefs, 8-4 and then the defense completed their tumble. Orton and the offense were fine early on and they won when the defense was able to keep things respectable. All that went to hell for the defense in the final stretch. It wasn't Orton's fault.

There was an old sports site I used to be on before I came to ChiefsPlanet called FanIQ. Its still alive but its much different now a days.

Anyways there was this guys who was a 49ers fan who was pretty much the equivalent of KnowMo.

He was telling me how bad the Niners would beat the Chargers (this was in 2006). I told him, we have LT, Gates, Rivers, etc. He told me, "Don't forget about Arnaz Battle."

He did bold the name and he spelled it wrong. I just thought that was funny.

Yeah but who is he going to throw to? Super Marshall is gone and all Orton is left with is Royal, who is a good #2, and a rookie WR that came from an option offense.

Royal is a solid #2 and right now their without a legit and proven #1... however, they will have a lot of options and will be forced to spread it around. Gaffney has value and will have his moments, but Thomas is key here and it would be great if he's able to mature quickly in the offense. Low chance of that happening, rookies rarely make a huge impact.

The key is protecting Orton - which makes Clady's return critical. If he has time and isn't running for his life, he's smart enough and can find open guys. They won't have the Colts' passing attack, but it won't be putrid either.

wow Jarvis Moss now has a broken bone in his right hand

JosinaAnderson Fox31Alert: Sources: Broncos LB Jarvis Moss has a broken bone in his right hand. Walked off field abt 10am during prax.

The Broncos just keep falling.

Damn Donks...

Does this need it's own thread?

Fixed

So typically, how long is a player out for when he breaks a bone in his hand? I don't remember the typical time table for that.

A fracture is typically 6 weeks depending on the severity, a LB should be able to play with a cast though.

Half a day / knowmo

Man are the Donx sure that Tebow is not the Anti-Christ? Since he has been on board they have fallen hard.................

I've heard they are making T-shirts that say "Tebow Saves"

and they just keep falling!!!!

Josina Anderson Fox31 Alert: Sources: G. Chris Kuper walked off field during am prax, sources tell me at this hr suffr'd sprain r. Ankle

If only McDaniels would suffer a career-ending injury.
Shanny has to be laughing has ass off right about now.

Wow

Geez... http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_15695260

Linebacker Jarvis Moss, right guard Chris Kuper and running back LenDale White all left this morning's practice with injuries.

Moss is garbage. Kuper would be a loss. For all of Knowmo's stupidity/blindness, Kuper's a very good player and the Chiefs fan who compared him to Lilja is clueless.

LenDale left with hunger pains.

What happened to LenDale white?

Or heres a better question. What is Josh McDaniels doing wrong? At this point he is doing something wrong. You don't see other teams getting injured nearly this bad.

Enh, I don't think it's a coaching issue... I just think it's a horribly bad week unfortunately. I mean sure, he could be asking them to run into brick walls and that would be his fault, but I doubt that is happening.

Agreed ... Kuper is the big loss here. There are a dozen guys on the street that have done more than Moss at this point.

Conditioning Coach or Training staff?

How do you condition against breaking a hand?

It could be a conditioning issue. You notice thus far the Chiefs don't have any serious injuries, and I think that has a lot to do with the conditioning of the team. The Chiefs are in very good shape physically.

I'd like to see McKid go but he can't be blamed for the injuries. Its football, shit happens no matter how well conditioned you are.

So, I'm looking at the wire (KFFL) and the Broncos need to call... about 12 players and say "be ready".

Well McKid already abandoned the running game that has always worked the for the Broncos. That makes no sense to me.

Oh, well there you have it... I haven't seen what Moss or Kuper were doing when they got injured. So, it could just be a result of contact.

And Chiefs nation knocks on wood..........

Nah, I did that as I typed it. We're safe.

This is some nasty Shanahan Curse... a few more injuries and they're headed to Chiefstown, which is about 10 miles north of Brownsville. After that, you take a detour at Lionstonia, which is in the county of Raiderland.

It's ugly.

Well if Orton goes down you guys will get a hell of a look at Tebow early on. Unless of course you guys choose to start Quinn.

At this pace, we may have a new formation... the Wildasses. Throw out Orton and Tebow, run a multiple laterals and other trickery to move the chains.

LMAO

They also got rid of 70% of their receiving yards. Who did you replace your #1 receive and #1 TE with?

They have the all-pro HOF TE Daniel Graham and future HOFer Demaryius Thomas/ Knowmo

TE? Let's not get too crazy about Scheffler... 31 rec / 416 yd / 2 TD is what he did last season.

Marshall is gone... yes, the Beast is out, but the drama is as well. So, they'll move on.

In due time, I'm hoping the depth chart shapes up as follows:
Demaryius Thomas, Eddie Royal, Eric Decker, Brandon Stokley, Jabar Gaffney

Prior to all these injuries, this team wasn't making a serious playoff run.. but, the potential is there for this WR group to be good this year and very solid in years to come. I really like Decker and the mix of youth and vets could prove to be a nice mix - there are no big egos here at all, so that's nice.

It's not a "brand name" offense, but that's ok for me right now.

All these injuries are going to definitely put the spotlight on McDaniels. Not because he caused them but now he's going to have to get this team together and compete without a bunch of star players.

No doubt... but, let's not act like Denver's group of WRs is that much worse off from an experience or production point of view compared to KC or Oakland. I think Oak and Den have more upside than KC actually.

I will say this... I don't care how smart Josh thinks he is, but if he can't figure out how to make Royal a more integral part of this offense... he needs to resign. There was just so much left on the table last year, in my opinion, when you look at how poorly guys like Royal and Hillis were used.

:D

I'll never understand why Hillis was traded away, he'd had a pretty decent season a couple of years ago and probably would've worked well as a combo with Moreno.

I still have huge issues with it... you're telling me that this creative mind for offense that enjoyed the likes of Kevin Faulk in the past couldn't come up with plays for Hillis?

How do you figure that? The leading receiver is Stokley...and he has 4k career yards. 4000 yards in 10 years. Their best young receiver is Royal who had less than 400 yards last year. The other starter is a career backup who had 3k career yards. Thomas has to learn how to run routes again this off season.


Sorry, the Broncos WR corp is nowhere near as good as the Chiefs. I'll take Bowe, Chambers, and McCluster over any combination of Broncos WR any day of the week and 8 times on sunday.

Hang on... "Their best young receiver is Royal who had less than 400 yards last year."

And, Bowe had 589 yards... after his 2008 campaign of just over 1,000. I know, he only started 11 games...

Chambers is older and he's really about a 700 yd guy on average the last few years. McCluster is a 5 foot 8 inch rookie 'tweener'.

So, yeah... Denver is not the only team in the division with issues at WR my friend.

Bowe > Royal
Chambers > Gaffney
McCluster = Thomas

I'll take our starters over yours.

I'll give you Chambers, but I think you're picking and choosing top 3 oddly...

Give me Royal and the two rookies and I'll say let's go.

Upside is a sort of useless term. Thomas can't run routes and Heyward-Bey can't, you know, catch a football. Bowe > them, by many, many leaps and bounds. You use interesting words like experience and production. In fact, from those points of view, KC is pretty far ahead. You'd have been better off by saying "from a natural/athletic talent point of view."

Enh, not really...

Clady (knee), Dumervil (pec), Moreno (hammy), Buckhalter (back), Jarvis Moss (hand), Chris Kuper (ankle), LenDale White (impotence), Darrell Reid (knee), Jamal Williams (butthole).... the Invesco Tebows are getting whittled down purt near

I love how arrogant Chiefs fans get after the Broncos lose a few starters. This season will be no different for Chiefs fans and I will be lurking the Chiefs game threads laughing my ass off just like I did the past 2 years.

I don't know how arrogant we are pointing out the obvious but I am one that believes in Karma......so I don't wish injuries on any NFL player.

But be clear....the basic underlying thinking on this website is the Chief's suck and will do so until proven differently.

Seriously dude... they're no more arrogant than you are right now. Denver is staring at an ugly season with the way that injuries are stacking up, and it was going to be difficult if they were totally healthy.

KC and OAK are on the rise ... as is Denver, but the injuries aren't helping us right now.

It's all good to flame away here, they really don't mind and enjoy it - as long as you don't come off as a douche. So, just have fun - the Internet is your friend and you can have a lot of fun here as long as you treat it for what it is... we're fans of teams, we want our teams to do great and we enjoy kicking others when they're down.

I love being able to say that the last time KC won a playoff game the team in Houston was the Oilers and there were only 28 NFL franchises, but Denver hasn't afforded me too much in the way of skins on the wall in recent years to really enjoy it as much. ;)

Where were you lurking and laughing after the last game of the season?

Anyone notice that all the AFCW teams were getting better in the 2nd half of the season except the Invescos? They were really going down hill fast - the worst 2nd half record in the division. And that was when they were the Healthiest Team in the NFL. Now they are the unhealthiest team.

Lots has changed as well... just as many didn't expect the 6-0 start, with the changes on defense (yes I know, we have lost Elvis), I am expecting them to be better.

The teams not located in San Diego are still going to struggle to win 8-9 games this year. I can't wait until the day when we have all the teams at .500 and playing dominant again. It's so much better.

With the Broncos trading Marshall, comparing receivers is a legitimate discussion. Couple that with the fact this is a KC CHIEFS board of course most people are going to feel like the KC wideouts are better, ESPECIALLY considering neither team has an established group.

You really are an idiot.

Any Chiefs fan want to finish him off Mortal Kombat style? Some Denver area Chiefs fan needs to take a crow bar and whack Dumervil across both of his knee caps when they see him at the grocery storeROFL

8 wins second in division.