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This is one of those times where I really kinda wish Skip would come back. I can only imagine his epic meltdown on this topic.
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This is all I'm saying...

I'm for it...

The team yesterday just looked like a team not into it. They looked disinterested. It's not what you expect on opening day or any game for that matter. I blame that on coaching.

When you aren't allowed to cuss, and you have to take an anti-drug pledge to play football, that tends to take a toll on your masculinity.

Actually I read an article talking about how the players knees were hurting from all the kneeling down they've been doin at church the past week.

The curse of Mark Mangino begins for KU football.

I was not sorry to see him go. He may have been a mean bastard, but he was a good coach. IMO, throwing him under the bus was a big mistake. Seems the bus might have been totaled in the process.

Of course, I have no problem with that whatsoever. :)

Great to see so many non KU fans interested in the team.

It's a long process and it's going to be a fun time watching the program grow. Nowhere to go but up from this point.

After we fire Gill.

Our most hated rival has degenerated into one of the worst teams in the country.

Yeah, that's interesting, all right. LMAO

Probably just need to pray harder. Worked out great for Trey Hillman and Germ.

MAngino was a raging a-hole, but he was a great x-and-o guy and excelled at getting a lot out of his players.

I think the impact he had, as well as how much Reesing covered up, was severely understated. We'll see if Gill can get a better effort out of his guys.

If they get bombed by Ga. Tech, I could see Gill losing the team and the season spiraling into the abyss.

Guess it's back to the drawing board for ol' Gill...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../250px-Gil.jpg

lol LMAO

So, you've realized now that it wasn't so much "HATE" and "VENOM"....

It was just the fact that most people realized KU was gonna suck this season?

He's been this way all along. He's consistent, I'll give him that.

What, losing the best passer, and two best receivers in program history, while also changing coaches and returning little of note on either side of the ball other than a Rb who was converted to LB is cause for something OTHER than optimism?

I bet Iowa State fans say that same thing all the time.

Iowa State actually looks like they might be going somewhere. That is another topic however.

:LOL:

It's going to be like watching a repeated train wreck with you every week. Good times.......

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Where'd that season prediction thread go?

Jesus Christ. I knew ku's team was terrible, I just didn't think it was THIS bad.

North Dakota ****ing State? LOL. Wow.

Kansas outgained NDSU by nearly 200%. KU had 3 turnovers at incredibly important scoring opportunities. KU's lone INT the dude attempted to bring it out of the endzone and was tackled at his one 1 yard line. Not good.

This was an awful defeat I admit that. But it's a game they could of easily won had just one of these critical mistakes not been made.

Remember KSU started last year with barely beating UMass and then losing to a terrible Lou-Lafayette team. They finished with a decent season.

Debut coaching games are tough. Most coaches don't win.

The Royals won a game against the Yankees this year. I guess both teams are on the same level.

Maybe nobody is shocked.

Your "recent success" might was well have been 100 years ago. The recruiting class that followed just lost their last 7 games as Sophomores and got beat at home by the Little Sisters of the Poor to kickoff their Junior season.

KU's running backs also gained 31 yards on 32 carries. Let's not act like this was Miami losing to Penn State. If these 2 teams played again next week, KU is maybe a 2.5 point favorite, basically a push at a neutral site.

ku has recruited decently pre-2010 class (which was a disaster), but there are some huge holes. The biggest, obviously, is that a replacement QB to take the reins from Reesing was not located. This includes a huge local miss with Blake Bell and Bubba Starling (not that he will play CFB anyway). The recruiting on the lines remained at the same level. The main recruiting wins were at DB and WR. Both are nice but less effective if line play is poor.

And that is this team's biggest problem... Atrocious line play. Maybe it's scheme change. the quick, athletic OL recruited to block for the spread is going to have a tough time blocking in a power scheme. Those guys aren't suited for drive blocking.

I don't think the little talent left behind for Gill really suits what he wants to do. It's going to take some time before he has his type of players. That likely means a few years of pain, and who knows how well they bounce back after that? It's really like starting at square one all over again.

1. Nebraska was ranked ahead of OU last year.

2. Nebraska is ranked in the top 10 this year.


How the **** are they comparable to the Royals in the least bit?

Nebraska hasn't won shit in over a decade. They aren't at Oklahoma's level. Maybe the gap is closing some, but they aren't there yet. Nebraska may even have the better team this year, but they aren't the better program. Not even close.

Hey moron what was OU in the 90's? Oh wait you're a Mizzou fan I guess you didn't watch college football then.

Nebraska was a better program in the nineties. That was not one but two decades ago. Sorry that you think Nebraska's program is currently on the level of Oklahoma's. That makes you the moron, not me.

Well obviously they must not be that far apart if Nebraska beat them last year and finished ranked ahead of them.

Kansas must have been a better program than Virginia Tech 2 years ago, then.

You must be confusing Nebraska with Missouri. When was the last time Mizzou beat OU? Nebraska is ranked in the top 10 and has a top 10 recruiting class for next year. You might not like it but those are the facts.

Not sure what Missouri has to do with anything. Missouri isn't on Oklahoma's level, either. Oklahoma has ended the season ranked 11th or better 8 times in the last 11 years and has played in 7 BCS Bowls and has won a championship in the past decade. Nebraska has played in 1 BCS bowl in the past decade, and that was 9 seasons ago in a losing effort.

Oklahoma had a huge down year last year. Congratulations on beating them when they had their worst team in a decade and you had your best team in a decade. The fact that you are crowing about that should be proof enough that your programs aren't on the same level.

Yea because Nebraska/OU isn't a rivalry or anything :doh!:

Michigan vs. Ohio State is a rivalry, too. That doesn't mean that Michigan's program is on par with Ohio State's in the past decade. (Maybe that's a bad comparison because at least Michigan has played in 3 times as many BCS games over the past decade as Nebraska.)

Let's not forget that you won the game 10-3. They beat you by 40 points the year before. In fact, it was your first win against them since 2001.

Oklahoma's program






Nebraska's program

And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. This type of argument in regards to "woulda, coulda, shoulda" is always weak.
If "The Kicker" didn't miss, the Chiefs woulda won that playoff game vs. Indy. If Joe didn't get hurt, the Chiefs woulda made the super-bowl in 94.
The fact is, KU sucks. NDSU shouldn't have even made it a close game in regards to each teams status in CFB. However, as it was stated earlier, if both teams were to go at it again tomorrow, it would be a coin flip. Sorry dude but that's a fact.
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Billay, I love ya man but with this type of logic, Iowa State is on the same level as NU and Oklahoma. Didn't they beat NU last year? ;)
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Prepare to hear something related to Mizzou in response. Somehow, the fact that Mizzou isn't as good of a program as Oklahoma means that Nebraska is as good of a program as Oklahoma. I'm still trying to connect the dots, myself.

Theres a difference though Gonzo. Iowa State didn't have a top 25 recruiting class followed by one of the best recruiting classes in school history while being ranked in the top 10. Let's see how the year finishes out.

Yeah, I know.

One thing we can both agree on though???

BWAHAHAHAHAHA at KU...

So, there ya go.

Yup couldn't happen to a better fanbase.

FYP

YEAH BUT THEIR BASKETBALL TEAM IS RLY GOOD!!!111
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I hadn't heard.

LMAO


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Posted: Yesterday 10:35 AM
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swarthmore wrote: Minn may have a little more in-state talent than the state of Kansas...however Kansas in-state talent must support two BCS teams, not one. That said, it has been a long time since the state of Minn cared about college athletics before professional sports.

K-State's existence really is the dagger.

That's why I was hoping the Big 12 would break up, and K-State would drift away.




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Posted: Yesterday 1:05 PM
RE: Minnesota Finished 1-11 in 2007 Post Rating (6 votes)



I been saying this for years.

Eventually the rest of our fanbase will realize this. KSU has no business being a BCS level school. If Missouri State is a non BCS school in a state with twice the population of Kansas. How in the hell did KSU get admitted into being a BCS level school? I'm not saying without a second BCS school in KS, KU would be an absolute college football power. However, I believe things would be easier for the KU football program competing in a stadium with a capacity of 70k, as the lone BCS school in a sparsely populated state. ( think Arkansas) What I'm saying is, The population in KS is small for one BCS school, let alone two.

Without KSU, I believe instate recruiting and support would be to KU what it is to a school like Arkansas with a similiar state population to KS. Everybody in Arkansas gets behind the Razorbacks and most instate recruits want to play there. They play in a 70k stadium, not 50k like KU. KU football doesn't have that kind of impact in Kansas, because people have another BCS school to cheer for. I long for the day when KU becomes the lone BCS school in KS, like they already should be. It would make a big difference for KU football instate recruiting. We may not get every top instate recruit, but atleast we're not having to split it up with another instate BCS school.
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Im not sure if KState fans should be talking, I know they just beat UCLA, but last season they lost to Southwestern Louisiana-Lafayette.

They are a much different team this year. They'll make a bowl game Kansas won't and if you compare recruiting it's not even close.

K-stater where did you find that wisdom?

fail

They lost to The University of Louisiana at Lafayette on the road, on a last minute field goal. While that is still pathetic as UL is a Sun Belt team, they aren't a FCS team that went 3-8 the year before.

That is definitely a Phog.net gem.

Can't really say it's wrong. WTF is the point of KSU sports anyway? It's not like you guys have ever won anything. You guys should be a D2 agriculture school. LMAO

Last time I checked, they made it deeper in the tournament than KU, and they just beat a PAC 10 team by 9 points.

LMAO

No athlete in the history of that school has gotten a NC ring... EVER. Like I said, KSU's only purpose seems to be to dilute the state's athletics.

Im pretty sure KState will make a bowl game, just sayin. Though maybe someone should pull up the thread and see how many jhawk fans were taunting the Wildcats for that.

Sincerely,

Every ****ing loss any team has ever had in any sport in the history of sports.

Not really. I'm pretty sure New Mexico isn't saying that right now. Neither did Nebraska when they got their asses pounded by the weaksauce of KU football in 2007.

The fact that it was NDSU is what you need to concentrate on, Zach.

Judging by your major programs last 2 games, your school isn't even good enough to compete in the Missouri Valley Conference.

Enjoy.

I don't think Colorado is leaving because the Big XII isn't competitive enough. Colorado can't compete in either sport.

I'll be on the record i'm not sold on this Wildcat team yet. 6 wins might be tough.

Warm! Up! The! Tractor!
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Still throwing dead chickens on the basketball court?

They are usually alive when they are thrown on the court.

See the trick is to stun them to get them to pass out. That way you can get them through security easier.

Freak losses happen (against MVC or otherwise). Beating you 3 times in one year, one of your best years ever as well, is really everything you should concern yourself with when talking about who we can and can't compete with. We also have a bunch of championships. KSU, on the other hand, has been inept throughout the history (I'm sure the decade of almost dominance was a fun ride for you though). Simple as that.

-27.5.

It's cute to see you guys puff out your chests after getting piss pounded by so called "inferior" schools. I love it.

There is more offense, more scoring and bigger hits in this thread after the game than during the game....

I'm not puffing my chest out, I'm just trying to put you in your place as a K-stater. I'm not proud of losing to UNI or NDSU, but you shouldn't be talking shit considering you're a fan of KSU. :)

Pervis Pasco disagrees with you Saul....

Is it the part about their football team being better than yours or the part about their basketball team advancing farther than yours that hurts worse?

Neither really hurts. That one loss against them in basketball last year really hurt, though. Oh wait, never mind, we beat them like a red-headed stepchild and won all 3 games last year. Kind of weird how a school like UNI can beat us and a school like K-State couldn't do it once after 3 freaking attempts. Like I said, KSU should stop diluting the state of Kansas. There's no reason for a state with a population of 2.8 million to have 2 BCS schools.

LMAO Good point.

The regular season is so important in basketball that nobody really cares about the tourney. It's beautiful that KU fan is pounding their chests about a basketball team (during the first week of football season no less) that got bounced in the second round of the tournament.

:LOL:

Yeah - I love it. When they lose in the regular season: "We'll see what happens in March!!11", when they get bounced in the tournament by a shit team, they point at the regular season. It's all very amusing and sad.