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Chiefnj2 11-02-2010 11:56 AM

Childress is an idiot and should have been fired years ago. Moss went from Belichick, one of the smartest coaches in the game, to one of the dumbest.

If Vikings ownership had half a brain they'd fire Childress today and let Leslie Frazier coach the team the remainder of the season.

JD10367 11-02-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7139007)
I posted this in a different randy moss but this is why he couldn't come here:

Moss criticized Brad Childress for going for it on fourth-and-goal from the one-yard line at the end of the first half. The Patriots stuffed Adrian Peterson.

"I'm definitely down we lost this game. . . . Wish could have had 3 at end of the half. Maybe it could have been different. Maybe not," Moss said.

Inaccurate analysis. You missed the whole point, which I highlighted in red. If the team wins, he doesn't make those comments. Was it a backhanded slap at Chilly's coaching ability? Yes. Was it warranted? Yes, 'cause Chilly sucks just as bad as Clueless Norv or Wade "Buffet Line" Phillips.

"Moss on a losing team with a stupid and weak coach who should be fired" is not comparable to "Moss on a winning team with a more-talented and stronger-minded coach".

JD10367 11-02-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7139019)
Childress is an idiot and should have been fired years ago. Moss went from Belichick, one of the smartest coaches in the game, to one of the dumbest.

If Vikings ownership had half a brain they'd fire Childress today and let Leslie Frazier coach the team the remainder of the season.

This. And when they started backtracking on reports last night, that's what I thought had happened--that Vikings ownership overruled the decision and shitcanned Childress. Instead, they compounded the problem by rubber-stamping the stupid idea. Now, at the end of the year, they'll be without Moss, Favre will retire, and they'll fire Childress anyway.

Chiefnj2 11-02-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7139023)
Inaccurate analysis. You missed the whole point, which I highlighted in red. If the team wins, he doesn't make those comments. Was it a backhanded slap at Chilly's coaching ability? Yes. Was it warranted? Yes, 'cause Chilly sucks just as bad as Clueless Norv or Wade "Buffet Line" Phillips.

"Moss on a losing team with a stupid and weak coach who should be fired" is not comparable to "Moss on a winning team with a more-talented and stronger-minded coach".

If KC lost the Bills game by 3, I'm sure every fan and player would be saying the same thing as Moss.

Stinger 11-02-2010 12:40 PM

From Adam Schefter Tweet

Quote:

One more reason to claim WR Randy Moss: team that loses him this off-season in free agency could get back a compensatory draft pick.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

JTagg7754 11-02-2010 12:42 PM

Please pick up Moss. It won't help you guys but I'm fine w/ it.

Shogun 11-02-2010 12:43 PM

What bothered him the most about losing to the Patriots is that he gave them all of this advice that chilly just ignored. Can you imagine?

Ralphy Boy 11-02-2010 12:55 PM

I'm tired of hearing that he "takes plays off", most receivers do this and with Randy, he has shown before that this can work in his favor. The DB thinks its a run play or whatever because Randy doesn't floor it off the line, then the DB thinks the play isn't going to Moss and they run coverage the other way and the QB hits him deep.

With a creative OC, that could/can present opportunities for single coverage, provided the pass protection is there. Granted that is something that would happen more so on a broken play when the QB scrambles but still. I really don't care if he dogs it when the play is a run or on the

Ralphy Boy 11-02-2010 12:55 PM

I'm tired of hearing that he "takes plays off", most receivers do this and with Randy, he has shown before that this can work in his favor. The DB thinks its a run play or whatever because Randy doesn't floor it off the line, then the DB thinks the play isn't going to Moss and they run coverage the other way and the QB hits him deep.

With a creative OC, that could/can present opportunities for single coverage, provided the pass protection is there. Granted that is something that would happen more so on a broken play when the QB scrambles but still. I really don't care if he dogs it when the play is a run or on the opposite side of the field.

JD10367 11-02-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 7139221)
I'm tired of hearing that he "takes plays off", most receivers do this and with Randy, he has shown before that this can work in his favor. The DB thinks its a run play or whatever because Randy doesn't floor it off the line, then the DB thinks the play isn't going to Moss and they run coverage the other way and the QB hits him deep.

With a creative OC, that could/can present opportunities for single coverage, provided the pass protection is there. Granted that is something that would happen more so on a broken play when the QB scrambles but still. I really don't care if he dogs it when the play is a run or on the opposite side o

Not that I'm condoning Moss taking plays off, or--more accurately--jogging out a route once he knows it's not coming his way--but, when your job is to run as fast and as far as possible on every play, you probably get tired of doing it (literally, as in, physically it's too much to handle at age 33 as compared to when he was 23).

And, again, whether or not he takes a play off, while morally questionable, almost has no bearing on his play. He still commands attention, he still commands double teams, he still opens up space underneath. I hear a lot about his numbers being down, but what he contributes in this manner isn't measurable on a stat sheet (just as Deion Sanders' contributions as a shut-down corner weren't as measurable because they simply didn't throw at him as much).

BigMeatballDave 11-02-2010 03:01 PM

Moss now officially waived, per ESPN.

Reerun_KC 11-02-2010 03:03 PM

Whats the chances that the Chiefs sign Moss?

Marcellus 11-02-2010 03:04 PM

They are saying on ESPN Radio right now that Moss pissed off his team mates last week when he went off about the catered food they had at a pre or post game meal. Can't member which.

Said he was yelling and complaining and told the caterer he "wouldn't feed this shit to my dog".

Nope he isn't an issue or possible bad influence on young players.

BigMeatballDave 11-02-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7139528)
Whats the chances that the Chiefs sign Moss?

He would have to pass by several teams to get to us.

Edit: What I should've said was, several teams would have to pass on him.

JD10367 11-02-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7139533)
They are saying on ESPN Radio right now that Moss pissed off his team mates last week when he went off about the catered food they had at a pre or post game meal. Can't member which.

Said he was yelling and complaining and told the caterer he "wouldn't feed this shit to my dog".

Nope he isn't an issue or possible bad influence on young players.

He was shipped to the Siberia (literally) that is Minnesota, to a losing team which he quickly deduced was badly-run and coached by a reerun. They're lucky he didn't grab a rifle and find a bell tower.

Is he a great influence? Probably not. Is yelling about some catered food a good reason to cut a future Hall-of-Famer you just gave up a 3rd round pick for? Um, no.

BigMeatballDave 11-02-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7139533)
They are saying on ESPN Radio right now that Moss pissed off his team mates last week when he went off about the catered food they had at a pre or post game meal. Can't member which.

Said he was yelling and complaining and told the caterer he "wouldn't feed this shit to my dog".

Nope he isn't an issue or possible bad influence on young players.

I didnt hear or see anything that specific. Its conjecture at this point.

siberian khatru 11-02-2010 03:27 PM

Boorish behavior also contributed to Moss’ demise

When Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress told his players Monday afternoon that Randy Moss(notes) would be released because “we want good people that are good football players, and this just doesn’t fit,” several of them nodded their approval. Though Childress isn’t especially popular in the locker room, some Vikings were on board with his decision to move on without Moss four weeks after the polarizing wideout was reacquired in a trade with the New England Patriots.

Even before Sunday’s surreal address to the media following the Vikings’ 28-18 defeat to the Patriots at Gillette Stadium – during which he questioned Childress’ leadership while effusively praising his former coach, Bill Belichick, and the Patriots’ organization – Moss had alienated some of his teammates with his brash, entitled behavior, most glaringly in an incident that occurred in the team’s locker room last Friday afternoon, Yahoo! Sports has learned.

As is the team’s custom on Fridays, a local food establishment was invited to the training facility to serve a catered, post-practice meal in the locker room. In this case, a St. Paul restaurant that is a favorite of former Vikings center Matt Birk(notes). As the proprietors helped serve chicken, ribs, pasta and other dishes to Vikings players, Moss paced up and down the serving line and loudly expressed his displeasure with the offerings.

According to one player who witnessed the scene, Moss yelled, “What the [expletive]? Who ordered this crap? I wouldn’t feed this to my dog!”

Said the witness: “It was brutal. The truth is, he deserved to be cut after that. It was such an uncomfortable moment. You know that feeling where you just can tell someone feels so small? That’s what it was like being there.

“This wasn’t a chain – it was a mom-and-pop restaurant, and you could tell it was their best stuff. They had a special carving station set up, and there were players and other support staff lining up to eat it. And [Moss] is at his locker saying, ‘You know, I used to have to eat that crap – but now I’ve got money.’ You just felt so sad for them. I had never seen anyone treated like that.

“And by the way, the food was actually really good.”

While Moss had his share of supporters in the locker room, some Vikings had grown disillusioned with his attitude. From the receiver’s uneven effort in practice to his displays of self-centeredness off the field, some veterans believed Moss was becoming a bad influence to young players like second-year wideout Percy Harvin(notes).

There was also locker room speculation about Moss’ effort – or lack thereof – on two plays in recent games. With the Vikes facing a last-gasp fourth-down pass in a 28-24 defeat to the Packers in Green Bay two Sundays ago, quarterback Brett Favre(notes) threw a high pass in the back of the end zone that sailed over Moss’ head, though it didn’t appear as though the receiver made an effort to jump for the ball.

In Sunday’s game against the Patriots, with the Vikings trailing by 10 midway through the fourth quarter, Moss drew a pass-interference penalty on Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather(notes) while streaking down the left sideline. It appeared as though Moss might have been able to catch the pass for a touchdown after the penalty occurred but that he broke off the route once the flag was thrown.

The Vikings got the ball at the New England 9 and scored four plays later, though not before Favre sustained a lacerated chin that knocked him from the game.

Most of all, however, Moss’ treatment of the restauranteurs in the locker room convinced some teammates that he wasn’t worth the trouble. Since becoming the Vikings’ coach in 2006, Childress has consistently preached that he wants “good people who are good football players,” and Moss clearly didn’t seem to be projecting himself as someone who fits in the former category.

When Childress, according to one person in Monday’s meeting, said of Moss, “This just doesn’t fit with how we treat people, how we talk to people and how we act,” it was clear that he was referring to the incident that occurred last Friday. Sunday’s stream-of-consciousness statement to the media only reinforced the internal perception that Moss was going out of his way to disrespect the organization.

With all of that said, Childress still has major credibility issues with his players, most of whom side with Favre in his ongoing clash with the coach. And there’s no guarantee Childress will stay the coach for the remainder of the season. However, his decision to part ways with Moss was, for some, viewed as an understandable consequence of the receiver’s behavior.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...110210&print=1

siberian khatru 11-02-2010 03:30 PM

Actually, this is a better version of it:

Shooter Now: Randy Moss unleashed profanity-laced tirade about buffet in Vikings' locker room

By Charley Walters
[email protected]
Updated: 11/02/2010 02:06:16 PM CDT



Randy Moss' classless actions at a recent Minnesota Vikings' locker-room buffet had to have embarrassed the team, which this week dumped the controversial wide receiver.

Tinucci's Restaurant and Catering, which operates out of Newport and Woodbury and has been in business since 1958, hosted a buffet for Vikings players Friday afternoon.

"We had the whole buffet set up, and we had a nice spread — chicken, ribs, round of beef with a carving station, the whole deal," Tinucci's co-owner Gus Tinucci said today. "(Moss) he comes in, and I'm helping one of the guys and didn't look up, and all of a sudden I heard, 'What the (expletive) is this? I wouldn't feed this (expletive expletive) to my (expletive) dog!' And he's screaming it at the top of his lungs.

"He never even came through the line. He walked up towards it, looked at it, made the big stink and walked away. He didn't eat."

Tinucci said the locker room, filled with players, got quiet.

"Nobody said anything except for one (player) who said, 'Shut the (expletive) up, Randy,' " he said.

"If (Brett) Favre would have had a ball, he would have beaned him right in the head. Favre looked at him like, 'Are you kidding me?' "

Tinucci said nobody on coach Brad Childress' staff was there. Tinucci said one Vikings locker room attendant in charge of the luncheon apologized to him.

"He said, 'Don't worry about it, Gus, he's an (expletive). He's done this every time we've had food.' "

Tinucci said the other Vikings players "absolutely loved" the spread.

"They were coming up and thanking me, and I don't know if that was because of what happened prior, but they did," he said. "It was quite an interesting afternoon, to say the least."

Gus' brother and partner in the family business, John, wasn't there, but asked Gus if he had responded to Moss' actions.

"What was I going to say?" Gus said. "I'm not going to make a stink; they're our customer."

Tinucci said he's confident the Moss-less Vikings will invited him back.

"The guys who hired us really liked us," he said.

More at: http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_...nclick_check=1

siberian khatru 11-02-2010 03:32 PM

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Tinucci said the locker room, filled with players, got quiet.

"Nobody said anything except for one (player) who said, 'Shut the (expletive) up, Randy,' " he said.
ROFL

I want to know who that player was.

BigMeatballDave 11-02-2010 03:34 PM

Well, congrats to Minny for pissing away a 3rd rd pick.

ReynardMuldrake 11-02-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7139558)
I didnt hear or see anything that specific. Its conjecture at this point.

Quote:

While his teammates lined up to dig in, Moss lashed out, according to the report.

Moss yelled "What the [expletive]? Who ordered this crap? I wouldn't feed this to my dog," a player who witnessed the incident said, according to Yahoo! Sports.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5755561

DeezNutz 11-02-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7139590)
Well, congrats to Minny for pissing away a 3rd rd pick.

Those don't matter anyway. You have something like a .004% chance of getting a decent player in that round.

Bwana 11-02-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7139528)
Whats the chances that the Chiefs sign Moss?

Low

Joe Seahawk 11-02-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7139581)
ROFL

I want to know who that player was.

Steve Hutchinson.

BigMeatballDave 11-02-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by warispeace (Post 7139599)

I posted that before I read anything specific about the Catering incedent.

siberian khatru 11-02-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk (Post 7139609)
Steve Hutchinson.

You know that or are you speculating? It sounds like him.

talastan 11-02-2010 03:46 PM

Imagine if the Chiefs are able to pick him up and then the uproar if Moss made such a comment about KC BBQ? He'd have to wear a bulletproof vest when traveling around town.

Marcellus 11-02-2010 03:51 PM

Mecca should be along shortly to let us know incidents like the one being reported have no effect on the team or winning or anything else.

Titty Meat 11-02-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7139652)
Mecca should be along shortly to let us know incidents like the one being reported have no effect on the team or winning or anything else.

He yelled at a Cater team cancer!!!1! We need a guy who builds tree houses in the hood.

JD10367 11-02-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7139576)

"(Moss) he comes in, and I'm helping one of the guys and didn't look up, and all of a sudden I heard, 'What the (expletive) is this? I wouldn't feed this (expletive expletive) to my (expletive) dog!' And he's screaming it at the top of his lungs.

"He never even came through the line. He walked up towards it, looked at it, made the big stink and walked away. He didn't eat."

It was all a misunderstanding. He wasn't even talking about the catering; he was looking at the Minnesota playbook for the upcoming game against New England, with such gems as "go for it on 4th down early" and "bench AP in favor of his backup". :D

Seriously, though... Moss is a dick, he's always been a dick. But this shouldn't have been news to Chilly and the Vikes. He had an incident here in New England where he was at some charity event and never took his iPod headphones off or something. :shrug: He is what he is. Yelling at the lunchlady is the reason you blew a third-rounder and cut a future HOFer who could help you? Really?

They're all divas and headcases in their own ways, anyway. Favre thinks he shits chocolate ice cream, the way he acts. Brady showed up at a team-sponsored playground-build last week to turn the last screw and smile for the photo-op. Some of them slap hookers, others drive drunk. If you start looking at the players as individuals you probably wouldn't like most of 'em, IMO.

DeezNutz 11-02-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7139659)
It was all a misunderstanding. He wasn't even talking about the catering; he was looking at the Minnesota playbook for the upcoming game against New England, with such gems as "go for it on 4th down early" and "bench AP in favor of his backup". :D

Seriously, though... Moss is a dick, he's always been a dick. But this shouldn't have been news to Chilly and the Vikes. He had an incident here in New England where he was at some charity event and never took his iPod headphones off or something. :shrug: He is what he is. Yelling at the lunchlady is the reason you blew a third-rounder and cut a future HOFer who could help you? Really?

They're all divas and headcases in their own ways, anyway. Favre thinks he shits chocolate ice cream, the way he acts. Brady showed up at a team-sponsored playground-build last week to turn the last screw and smile for the photo-op. Some of them slap hookers, others drive drunk. If you start looking at the players as individuals you probably wouldn't like most of 'em, IMO.

NE-sounding "this."

Brock 11-02-2010 03:56 PM

That's just a story you tell to pacify enraged Minnesota fans.

chiefsnorth 11-02-2010 03:57 PM

Tinucci's is a variety deli place that serves a little of everything. Fried chicken, some BBQ, deli meats and sandwiches... Not bad... Not super fancy but certainly not dog food. Pretty good for catering. You can get prime rib there which it sounds like they were serving, with the carving station

WebGem 11-02-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7136242)
Shit... Now I'm nervous he'll end up in SD or Denver...


hmm....

Who cares about Denver?

Rams Fan 11-02-2010 04:23 PM

He's going to the Rams. If not, damn it.

Mr. Flopnuts 11-02-2010 05:03 PM

Shaun Smith on Twitter:

"O don't care if he comes just want a good teammate n willing to win"

http://twitter.com/autumnsjs90

chiefzilla1501 11-02-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 7139221)
I'm tired of hearing that he "takes plays off", most receivers do this and with Randy, he has shown before that this can work in his favor. The DB thinks its a run play or whatever because Randy doesn't floor it off the line, then the DB thinks the play isn't going to Moss and they run coverage the other way and the QB hits him deep.

With a creative OC, that could/can present opportunities for single coverage, provided the pass protection is there. Granted that is something that would happen more so on a broken play when the QB scrambles but still. I really don't care if he dogs it when the play is a run or on the opposite side of the field.

Dude, it's not like that anymore. He's taking entire halves off.

After he argued with the Pats' coach, Revis said that Moss didn't play for the entire second half.

This is a new Randy Moss. He used to work his ass off consistently in practice and used to play full out at least 3/4 of the time. Now it's to the point where he only practices and plays when he feels like it.

No to the new Randy Moss.


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