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L.A. Chieffan 01-06-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8270504)
Orton could very well break Brees record for yards next year.

Hell he might break the td record too.

Only if mcdaniels is here, maybe

O.city 01-06-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8270511)
Only if mcdaniels is here, maybe

Thats true.

With Charles and Richardson running wild next year Orton will have single coverage everywhere.

Coogs 01-06-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8270511)
Only if mcdaniels is here, maybe

:facepalm:

L.A. Chieffan 01-06-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8270509)
Well we ran it the same amount this year that we did last year with Charles so............

Your right. There is absolutely no difference between Charles and Jones/battle :facepalm:

L.A. Chieffan 01-06-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8270517)
:facepalm:

:facepalm: :facepalm:

The Bad Guy 01-06-2012 10:18 PM

The fact that you people actually entertain LA Chief fan is hilarious.

The guy is an uber troll.

O.city 01-06-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8270518)
Your right. There is absolutely no difference between Charles and Jones/battle :facepalm:

We had the same amount of rushing attempts this year without charles as we did last year with Charles.

Therefor ur argument holds no water.

Coogs 01-06-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8270524)
:facepalm: :facepalm:

:LOL:

Coogs 01-06-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8270525)
The fact that you people actually entertain LA Chief fan is hilarious.

The guy is an uber troll.


:shrug: It's something to do on a Friday night.

O.city 01-06-2012 10:20 PM

I'm trying to outtroll the troll.

The Bad Guy 01-06-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8270357)
Just because he's already sunk 28 million doesn't mean he'll just allow Cassel to keep starting. That makes no sense.

Yes, Pioli thought Cassel was a franchise QB. That doesn't mean that after 3 underwhelming years, he can't change his mind.

Why provide no competition either then?

Sounds like a ton of wishful thinking on your part.

MoreLemonPledge 01-06-2012 10:37 PM

The only thing I got out of the last couple of pages is the old hands on boobs smilies

:facepalm::facepalm:

Epic Fail 007 01-06-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8270440)
Orton is gonna probably put up 4500 plus pass yards with this offense next year.

Yes if hes the starter and if hes here .Thats a BIG IF

whoman69 01-06-2012 10:55 PM

NFL network is pretty much presenting it like McDaniels in NE is a done deal.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-06-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8270633)
NFL network is pretty much presenting it like McDaniels in NE is a done deal.

Elaborate please...

talastan 01-06-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8270633)
NFL network is pretty much presenting it like McDaniels in NE is a done deal.

:grovel:

Frankie 01-07-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8269815)
I know. With a good QB this team is far and away the best in the division.

I wouldn't go that far out on the limb, but I'm sick and tired of the Chiefs building an excellent nucleus and letting it flush down the toilet by neglecting obvious problems. DV should have won a couple of SBs with that offense here had he and CP bothered to build a defense to go along with it. Now we are building a solid D and have all the ingredients for a good O EXCEPT FOR A ****ING QB!!! By the time Pioli admits his mistake or gets fired for his Cassel man-love the rest of this team will have gone to crap. :banghead:

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8269848)
If we do in fact hire Crennel, I'd let him select his OC.

As long as his name starts with 'T' and ends with 'om Clements.'

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8270207)
If Pioli wants McDaniels as OC, and Clark Hunt won't let him....this franchise is in total disarray.

Isn't this only speculation? Why is everybody posting like it's a fact?

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8270310)
Cassel is Pioli's ego plain and simple. It was his scouting, his draft pick, his trade, and his big signing. Its Pioli thinking he is smarter than everybody else.

CP 2.0?

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8270357)
Yes, Pioli thought Cassel was a franchise QB. That doesn't mean that after 3 underwhelming years, he can't change his mind.

2010 was NOt an underwhelming season. At least on paper.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8270445)
I am not going to say Orton can win us a SB...but...I think he CAN win us playoff game or two...

I also believe he is a step up from a Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.

Just sayin...

Not that big a step up. But the era of winning championships with mediocre QBs is over. This is a much more QB driven league than when Dilfer and Johnson played.

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8270475)
That's what i'm saying, after the Cassell injury and haleys departure everything changed

Yeah we put a QB behind the center that has some semblance of an NFL QB.

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8270633)
NFL network is pretty much presenting it like McDaniels in NE is a done deal.

Oh GOD, please, please, pretty please!!!

DaWolf 01-07-2012 12:54 AM

Belichick is to McDaniels as Parcells was to Haley. The guy wants you, you go there no questions asked. They're close.

The noise for McDaniels to KC was really loud, but Michael Lombardi kept banging on his idea that McDaniels may not necessarily see KC as the best fit. He's still young. He goes back to NE, gets five more years with Brady, rebuilds his reputation, then if Belichick decides to hang it up, he steps in and takes over. If you are McDaniels, that's probably a far better scenario than hoping things work out in KC with a fanbase you know is going to hate you from the get go...

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2012 09:02 AM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...-st-louis-rams

More Josh McDaniels Talk (Chiefs Haven't Talked To Rams Edition)
by Joel Thorman on Jan 7, 2012 9:00 AM CST


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As usual, the NFL coaching rumor mill is a cluster-you-know-what and we're seeing contradictory reports.

On Thursday, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported via a "well-placed league source" that the Chiefs have reached out to the Rams seeking permission to speak with Josh McDaniels.

Also on Thursday, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that the Chiefs have not reached out to the Rams seeking permission to speak with Josh McDaniels.

Wait, what?


Exactly.

Bryan Burwell, Thursday afternoon: "A well-placed league source says both the Patriots and Chiefs have reached out to the Rams to seek permission to talk to McDaniels, but no word on if the Rams gave it."

Jim Thomas, later on Thursday afternoon: "Goodbye Josh from Stl. Pats move fast on McDaniels. Rams signed permission form only 1 hour ago. Kansas City yet to request permission."

Some Post-Dispatch-on-Post-Dispatch crime here.

More importantly to us, the KC Star's Adam Teicher is reporting the Chiefs have not made a move to talk with McDaniels so it sounds like that's the accurate take. The Star's Sam Mellinger previously reported McDaniels would not be interviewed for the head coaching job in KC (but potentially could for offensive coordinator). The current signs point to McDaniels landing in New England but we shall see.

And Teicher's story this morning talks about Jack Del Rio interviewing in KC but we're told he will not be the next Chiefs head coach. (Hope this isn't my Nick Saban moment.)

Messier 01-07-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8270537)
Why provide no competition either then?

Sounds like a ton of wishful thinking on your part.

Why sign Orton? I know we couldn't go on with Palko, but why not bring in a QB that wouldn't have a chance to unseat Cassel? We could have brought in anumber of washed up QBs sitting at home that could be signed for a few weeks and dumped, and that would have been cheaper.

I think Cassel very well could be the QB next season, but if the coach believes someone else is better, I don't think Pioli is forcing them to start him.

Frankie 01-07-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8270970)
Why sign Orton? I know we couldn't go on with Palko, but why not bring in a QB that wouldn't have a chance to unseat Cassel? We could have brought in anumber of washed up QBs sitting at home that could be signed for a few weeks and dumped, and that would have been cheaper.

I think Cassel very well could be the QB next season, but if the coach believes someone else is better, I don't think Pioli is forcing them to start him.

I'm on the fence about signing Orton. I prefer him to Cassel by leaps and bounds, but if we sign him AND KEEP CASSEL, guys like Stanzi or anyone we draft late in this draft will never see the field. The only way I want us to sign Orton is if we actually cut ties with Cassel.

Messier 01-07-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8271136)
I'm on the fence about signing Orton. I prefer him to Cassel by leaps and bounds, but if we sign him AND KEEP CASSEL, guys like Stanzi or anyone we draft late in this draft will never see the field. The only way I want us to sign Orton is if we actually cut ties with Cassel.

Yes, and if Pioli wanted no competition for Cassel he wouldn't have bothered bringing in Orton.

SAUTO 01-07-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8271143)
Yes, and if Pioli wanted no competition for Cassel he wouldn't have bothered bringing in Orton.

This post makes no sense.

Cassel was on I R and orton is a fa at the end of the year.

No competition at that point
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whoman69 01-07-2012 02:52 PM

There is no way Orton resigns with Cassel still on the roster. He'd be better off to sign with a team that has an unsteady young QB that could take a step back or a team caught without a QB for next year.

Brock 01-07-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8271934)
There is no way Orton resigns with Cassel still on the roster. He'd be better off to sign with a team that has an unsteady young QB that could take a step back or a team caught without a QB for next year.

Actually, he'd be better off signing here, because he can easily beat out Cassel and he isn't going to have these kind of weapons anywhere else.

Frankie 01-07-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8271962)
Actually, he'd be better off signing here, because he can easily beat out Cassel and he isn't going to have these kind of weapons anywhere else.

Beating Cassel requires being given a chance to do so. I think Stanzi can beat out Cassel. But Papa Pioli is too enamored with Matty.

Brock 01-07-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8272414)
Beating Cassel requires being given a chance to do so. I think Stanzi can beat out Cassel. But Papa Pioli is too enamored with Matty.

Then no coach should want this job.

Messier 01-07-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8272422)
Then no coach should want this job.

Exactly. If Pioli is deciding who starts he needs to go now. That's not the job of the GM, and no coach, not even Crennel should, or would put up with it.


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