That is evidence.

There was also that great audio after he called the audible that confused half the offensive line (lol) during a Seahawks victory.

Ryan O'Callaghan came up to him on the sideline and asked him "what play did you call?"

Cassel says "it doesn't matter what play I call, you made it work" and pounds the guy in the chest pad.

During the lockout, he assembled 50 some players in a part of the country no NFL players live in, some of them not even under contract, and ran the practice by himself.

He fought for Jackie Battle a year or two ago.

He befriended and supported Kyle Orton for Orton's stay that, in reality, offered a distant threat to Cassel's job.

LMAO

Sweet Jesus I am sorry I missed that.

All that shit and no playoff wins.

**** him and the horse he rode in on.

How'd that work out for us?

Oh, yeah.

Cassel wins the special Olympics of quarterbacks and you want us to like him for it.

How would you feel if Tebow was our QB? Because he's the same ****ing pea from the pod that Cassel was created from.

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LET IT BE KNOWN THAT SNR IS RUNNING AND HIDING

LMAO

We lost our best players on offense and defense, and still came within a blocked kick of the playoffs.

Shrug.

I do what to highlight the other thing in your post, though, because it's an important distinction from what I'm trying to argue:

Because no, no I am not saying that. I've been exasperated as much as anybody else by Cassel's poor play.

I'm just saying let's not play to the lowest common denominator here.

Direckshun =


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You are going to bump this thread after every game this year and tell us exactly how you feel about Matt.

That is your homework assignment for the year.

You are going to LEARN YOUR LESSON.

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Thanks to Kyle Orton. Cassel was shit in the preseason and pretty much continued that until he was injured and out for the season.

Shit, you're right! Morals, ethics and class went out of style a looooong time ago!

Why don't you just go and do a couple of lines with Lady Gaga and forget about Chiefsplanet?

LMAO

Why not.

I will know if you are lying.

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Cassel is a leader? LMAO.

ATTENTION WORLD

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I'm making this one post and then going to bed.

Trent Green once stood up to Paul Tagliabue, who mocked his defense and HIS team, in public. Now Tagliabue was not without reason. That was some stinky stinky reerun diarrhea shit defense, but that didn't matter. Trent defended them anyway, and said, "You know what could have won that game? If the offense had scored more points." He said, "Hey, now... football is a team sport" to defend his own fellow players. That was selfless, noble, and boy did it ever demonstrate REAL leadership.

Cassel uses the same "football is a team sport" excuse/answer. The very same one. The difference there is Cassel uses it to cover HIS OWN ****ING ASS and not the asses of his teammates. He sucks so much shit that when he uses that line he brings his teammates down to his shitty ****ing level. No wonder the media thinks the Chiefs suck so bad. They think the entire team is a bunch of Matt Cassels.

Why should Cassel make such large image-degrading sacrifices in order to keep something as worthless as mere criticism off the backs of his teammates? Why does that shit matter? Because that's what real leaders do. True leaders have done this for their troops/players/employees/cyborgs throughout history. History is rife with noble examples of this sort.

Matt Cassel has never done this in spite of the many MANY opportunities that came his way. He's a cowardly pussy on the field and a cowardly pussy in front of a microphone. But hey, he helps out in the community.

Like I said, if he's so damn good as a charity worker, give him KC Wolf's job. Clearly he's far more successful at that shit than he is at winning playoff games.

Good night. We will continue this conversation another time.

We've found our Robert the Bruce I guess

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Just kidding.

People don't give a shit about the Chiefs because the Chiefs do not consistently win and they do not compel attention. Matt Cassel contributes to both those factors, I make no excuses for that.

But to use his inability on the field, or his thin skin (which I admit he has) misses the point of why it is I like Cassel. The guy works his ass off for this team. And it really has been that long since we've had a QB that's done that.

This is the best you can do?

LMAO

I don't give a shit about Matt, because he sucks.

I don't care that he's a nice guy.

He's nothing more than a wasted roster spot.

If he were an elite QB and an asshole and winning post-season games, I would love him.

That's not very nice, mister.....

Great another ****ing RUDy story.
**** that

I stand behind my teams starter, Stanzi, and I would like him and, Stanzi, the world to know that. I love our QB, Stanzi, and will back him until the end, Stanzi, Stanzi, Stanzi.

i take this stanz as well.

T.J. Carpenter is a dumb son of a bitch......

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This is a battle for the SOUL of Chiefsplanet.

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this is more like a ball washing fest....

One guy is speaking from reality, while the defense is sucking the sack of everyone he can to help his cause...

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THANKS FOR RUINING MY DAY

You think I'm going to risk losing the battle for ChiefsPlanet's soul in a fist fight with you?

so are you defending the stance or doing the sucking? Cause we know you rarely bring the reality side to the table....



:Poke: - can't forget the smilie, lest I get called a douche or a maroon...

This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.

GoChiefs won't kill me, out of some misplaced value on human life.

And I won't kill him, because I'm on probation.

I think we're destined to do this forever.

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Stop right there.

That's why it's easy for me not to like him. That's all I need.

I couldn't care less about what a great "leader he is" or other BS beyond that. Can he or could he ever be a SB caliber QB? No? Then I don't like him and can't wait for the day when he's gone.

WHERE IS HE!?!?!?!

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You have all these objectifications of football players, and you think they'll save you.

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Agree with OP. I like Matt Cassell.
I like him a lot.

YOU'RE GARBAGE

ROFL

shut your whore mouth...

I am no neither side.. Its a pointles argument...

Lazarus

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What, you didn't take my insults serious? Was it the smilie?

They have a baby called BIG GAY FAILURE

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The defense rests your honor.

Wait? You insulted me?

Oh shit, you didn't use a smilie....

Its on now....

Oh hey how did this get here?

*Casey Kasem voice*... and now, a dedication, it comes from a heartbroken QB in the midwest who gave it his all, and it goes out to all of his loves, he wants you to know he did his best...

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I'm guessing opinions might have changed since the original OP.

He is still a good guy. Sucks ****ing balls at football. Still a good guy. Clay can still go eat shit.

No he's not.

Terrance Copper is a thug.... Whatchu gonna do now?!

Terrance Copper is a great teammate.

Cassel is not.

See the other thread if you can't understand this extraordinarily simple premise.

I saw it. Can't help to be a little hostile after losing your NFL starting job. Still doesn't trumph his effort for blocking his running back 30 yards down the field to help his team. TWICE!

ROFL

He's a fake nice guy, who has almost never taken responsibility for his failures, including in his latest press beatdown.

He thinks his shit doesn't stink. **** him.

****ing put him back at TE then and let him compete...

Nothing I said was untrue....

Hey I wished and hoped he was awesome...I wanted to see some playoff football...

I guess I'll be waiting a while longer with the rest of you douche bags eh?

Its not like rooting against him wouldve helped with the boredom and absolute apathy I have for football this season...

My season still ended when yours did (and yours ended when mine did)

We are still Kin, my brother

The Merril Hoge/Ron Jaworski cluster**** on ESPN after the Winston fiasco just shows how wrapped up the media is in this stupid notion that Cassel is a nice guy. Jaworski said something like, "Matt Cassel is a guy who helped to rebuild an entire city of Chiefs fans in Joplin after those awful tornados, and this is how the fans treat him? This is not the Kansas City I knew when I played there"

If he's so valuable to the people of Joplin, then he should ****ing get a job with Habitat for Humanity. That might actually be something he's GOOD at doing. Instead he's our starting QB.

THAT was 100% sickening to ME as a fan when Jaws said that. Is he actually suggesting that an athlete who likely feels obliged to help people out because the rest of the team is doing it (let's be honest, during the lockout he wasn't exactly doing anything else) is a great guy? He could have gotten vocal and spearheaded the whole rescue Joplin thing, but that wasn't him. That was all Todd Haley. Cassel just followed.

So how do we express our intense disappointment, Jaws? It came down to that. We don't want a ****ing carpenter as our starting QB. We've been saying that for years, and management wasn't ****ing listening. Well, now we forced the issue and look what happened! No more ****ing Cassel. Ain't that grand?

Preach on, brotha!

We shouldn't demean Cassel's efforts to assist the people of Joplin. That was a good thing.

But the fact of the matter is that Cassel's charitable efforts are in no way related to his play on the field. They are two separate things. There is zero correlation between the two. And, if Jaws had his facts correct, he would have known that the cheers were horribly overblown and misrepresented by Winston's moronic grandstanding.

I'm very disappointed in Jaws, to be honest. I thought he was a man of integrity, but it turns out he's just another ratings whore like most of them. Sad.

FAX

Cassel is a good guy. He tries hard, he practices hard, he plays hard. He just sucks as a QB but I have never doubted his heart or effort. He never should have been a starting QB and it isn't his fault that he was. I will knock Cassel's talent but I won't knock his effort in trying to become something he isn't and will never be.

NO HE'S ****ING NOT

I've said all along that the guy is a giant dick and a jerk, but nobody believed me. He's got the face of America, and his improbable storybook rise to NFL starting QB could practically be a Disney movie. People want to like him, so they say things like, "I don't think he's a good QB, but he's a selfless team leader who works hard. Perfect teammate. The right kind of guy you want as your starting QB."

A good guy who sucks would say the right things. He'd endear and entrench himself into the hearts of the fans. Think Boomer Grigsby. Fans ****ing loved that guy even though he sucked saggy octogenarian titties. He played into the underdog role like a champ. Cassel waltzed into KC and was like, "Oh, I'm the starting QB? Uh, yeah. That's cuz I'm awesome! Maybe if enough of my greatness rubs off on my teammates, we'll improve and win some games."

This.

Every word of it.

Cassel and Baldwin say whats up

I'd buy Cassel a beer. Seems like a good dude. I know a lot of guys like that. None of which I want as a starting QB on any team I care about.

I'd let Cassel buy ME a beer.

Then I'd tell him to ****ing get lost.

He doesn't come close to blocking like Trent.

ROFLROFLROFL

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I'd buy him a near beer, because they are so similar.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

My friend told me Cassel was on a food network show a while back. Never saw it but said he acted like a prick. You never know with guys on camera. They can come off well or poorly. My gut tells me he is a little fake. Reading into his comments most times just makes me feel even more so with him not accepting blame.

What?

After all of the shit you flung anyone and everyone's way for YEARS on end that disagreed with your evaluation of Cassel, that's the end? That's it?

We're still "kin"?

You're ****ing smoking crack.

You have a ****LOAD of ass kissing ahead if you want to be considered a "bro".

I think the only relationship I have on here that's more homoerotic than the one with Pawnmower is the one I have with Simply Red.

Pawn is an awesome bro. Just add love.

Trent was the greatest blocking quarterback of all times.

A Cassel block looks remarkably similar to a frantic ground hog attempting to dig an emergency burrow.

FAX

Pawnmower is still my bro.

My little down syndrome bro.

I love the little reerun.

:D

I'd take my beer and pour in on Cassel's head. Then, I would take his beer and drink it right in front of him. Then, I would take his wife's beer and throw it right square on her bosom. Then, I would steal a beer from the guy at the next table and tell him that Cassel forced me to steal his beer and call his girlfriend an ugly, moon-faced, floozy who flaunted her meat curtains in front of the entire team. Then I would order another beer and kick back as the other guy beats the living crap out of Cassel.

FAX

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Please show me ONE ****ing post where I disagree with an 'evaluation' of Cassel,

THIS is the ****ing problem with you and the ****ing reeruns like you.

You can't ****ing read or understand basic English.

This is your chance, PLEASE quote me on something , ANYTHING where you think I overhype, overestimate, or say anything that is not accurate regarding Cassel.

****ing do this shit.

If you don't, then admit it just simply isn't true.....