Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832051)

The thing is....Dexter is looking like a guy that will play A LOT more than he thinks

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832050)

I'll get over it when people stop defending the pick.

The dude isn't close to our best receiver. LMAO

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832056)

Based on what?

He is not the #3 when Bowe returns.

He is the #4.

Dunno why it's so hard for people to see this.

As for me sticking to my guns, if all Dex continues to do is catch dumpoffs, well, shit, I win this whole argument.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8832052)

:thumb:



He's only a shitty pick if you compare him to Gronk. Any of other positions that Clay listed weren't positions of need.

Misi wasn't going to replace Belcher. Dunlap is a 4-3 guy. Benn is garbage. So on and so forth.

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 8832059)

WHO ****ING CARES WHAT SOME IDIOTS THINK!?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8832061)

It's all about the defensive matchups.

There will be some teams in which Breaston matches up better and some teams in which McCluster will match up better.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832064)

I do.

It pains me to see people supporting worthless players like Dexter and Matt.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832066)

Daboll is asinine.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832056)

Based on what?

He is not the #3 when Bowe returns.

He is the #4.

Dunno why it's so hard for people to see this.

As for me sticking to my guns, if all Dex continues to do is catch dumpoffs, well, shit, I win this whole argument.

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8832070)

Mccluster may well lead the receivers in production. But only because casshole is blind and/or scared

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8832072)

Clay, I'm moving to Florida soon and I'm going to visit Dex' restaurant and post pics on here just to spite you.

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8832072)

Clay, I'm moving to Florida soon and I'm going to visit Dex' restaurant and post pics on here just to spite you.

LOL

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

Mccluster may well lead the receivers in production. But only because casshole is blind and/or scared

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832074)

Breaston 2011 yards: 810
McClusters 2011 yards: 844 yards

And the trend continues into 2012.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832074)

Breaston 2011 yards: 810
McClusters 2011 yards: 844 yards

And the trend continues into 2012.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8832077)

Isn't that total yardage for McCluster and not just receiving yards?

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8831238)

well, now there is absolutely no question, this team is ****ed if Cassel goes down.


cough spit ugh

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832081)

He averaged 4.5 yards per rush...not exactly poor performance.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832084)

It was poor enough that he's no longer a RB.

Game, set, match.

Now we get to see him fail as a WR. A position he already failed at as a rookie.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832084)

It was poor enough that he's no longer a RB.

Game, set, match.

Now we get to see him fail as a WR. A position he already failed at as a rookie.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8831692)

Were we really all that prepared, or were we playing a shitty Arizona team?

The starting D got gashed tonight.

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8832086)

Well he sure has the coaches fooled doesn't he? He is going have a bunch of LBs & DBs fooled too when he makes assclowns out of them. Yep Dex is going have the league fooled just how good he is, but not Clay that is for damn sure.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8832075)

Are you really? Cool man, congrats!

:thumb:

Somehow, I think you'll like it better than Ohio (plus, IIRC, you'll be close to your son).

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8831902)

Positives:

Charles looked like he trusts the knee and that he hasnt lost his explosion, vision or strength in his runs. Definitely a good sign.

Cassel looked like he is trying to take the next step in his development (sad that at 30 that is even an issue) by trying to push the ball more on intermediate routes. His arm looks visibly stronger and his accuracy seems to have improved...as does his poise, albeit not by leaps and bounds.

Playcalling is much better on offense. I know, I know preseason blah blah...but the plays are in on time and most of the time have been effective.

Hillis looks to be ready for another 2010 year...dude reminds me of a more talented Mike Alstott...hopefully he continues to secure the ball and isnt careless with it in crucial situations like he was in 2010...if he does, our running backs will be in beast mode.

Jerrell Powe looks to be a guy that should probably get some sub package work and is probably deserving of more than that. He is seemingly disruptive on a lot of plays he is in for and if this team is gonna blitz more and use man coverage as much as they are, he can be an asset in a "Jay Ratliff" type role as a penetrating nose when we blitz.

Allen looked to be in beast mode and should be promoted immediately to starting left guard.

Dexter McCluster is kicking big time ass out there and is arguably our best receiver (until Bowe gets his back into the swing of things. He is getting consistent separation and is catching almost everything thrown his way. If he keeps it up, he will provide a valuable weapon to this offense.

Kevin Boss is looking like a stud pickup more and more aqnd should allow our offense to use he and Moeaki similarly to how Gronk/Hernandez get used in NE. Really good value signing.

Dontari Poe is already starting to flash, if you look close enough. He is splitting doubles and beating blocks regularly and had a couple pressures tonight. They need to put him at the3 nose and keep him there...LIKE THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO.

The negatives:

Stanzi looked like hot garbage. No redeemable features were on display tonight. Just a poor showing.

Dorsey/Torbino/Jackson all looked like ass. Not sure what was up tonight with them, but they all looked soft.

The whole secondary...even Berry looked bad tonight and whats really bad is that the Rams have one of the weakest receiving cores in the league and we couldnt even slow them down.

Did I mention Stanzi?...biggest opportunity of his life to show something and he really played poorly.

Bailey...where the **** was he?

Albert has a rough game, too...gave up a couple pressures and a sack iirc. Its a shame...I figured he would be looking very impressive this time of the year in a contract year.

Baldwin...another of "my guys" that underachieved tonight...although I think a large part of that is because he is a guy you just need to throw a few passes a game to him and let him go get it and these guys arent doing that for the kid....they need to show some confidence in him by making it a point to do that.

I hope Romeo turns it up a couple notches in practice this week to get the starters some good work before next week...thats the game that these guys need to be almost ready to line up in a regular season game and if we look out of rythem...that will almost undoubtedly carryover into the regular season.

This team has a lot of work to do to start to realize their potential and if we dont get it going pretty fast, Clay is gonna end up looking like a genius at the end of the year.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832083)

Let me also say that when you have "bs dumpoff" options like Hillis, Charles and Dexter....I have no problem with Cassel checking down as long as he is throwing passes to the receivers and spreading the ball around.

He does that and those "bs dumpoffs" will be highly effective.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8831951)

I don't think we'll know where Cassel is until five or six games ino the regular season. The early returns look promising but that could change quickly.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832087)

He isn't a running back because the team needed to replace Jones and Battle.

That added with the need to fill the slot receiver role and DMCs hard work towards earning that role have us where we currently are.

With DMC as the full time slot receiver...at least until if/when Wylie takes the job from him.

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8831374)

I think the AFC West is safe in confirming it's "worst division in football" status. Yet, once again.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832116)

You don't move a RB that you believe is a productive RB to WR.

That 4.5 YPC is a mirage.

Handoffs on passing downs, when the defense doesn't care if the RB gains 6 or 7 yards.

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8832132)

114 carries is a mirage to you?

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832135)

Pay attention, you useless ****.

I didn't say the carries were a mirage.

I said the 4.5 ypc were.

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8832136)

You are kind of spineless.

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8831901)

Love the people that are all up on Cassel's bag. He's like a con man. He has this style that leaves a box score making him look like a pro bowl QB, but its like he makes plays with absolutely no regard to what impact it has on the teams actual chances of winning. He's whoring QB rating at the expense of an offense that can actually compete with playoff caliber teams. Need 9 yards for the first down? Box score says Matty completed it (for 7). Down by 14? Matty went on a 12-14 streak (for a FG and the team lost by 18).

Buckle your seatbelts football fans. Matty is gonna take us on another Pro Bowl season ride. Yes, we'll get embarrassed by the true competitors of the league, but we may fall assbackwards into the playoffs by winning the worst division in the NFL. And boy oh boy, look at Matty's stat line.

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8832147)

Is it possible a dwarf can run the rock on an NFL crap team and avg 4.5 ypc on more than 100 carries? Ya. Is it possible some dumbshit is going to call it a lie based in the fact the player is pint sized? Ya.

Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 8832149)

Well hold off on that Superbowl for KC. I wanted KC to look good so that you fools would get all homered up and get your mullet curls tightened up.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832158)

Wow... a preseason game and everybody is acting like it is a game to get into the playoffs...

I would love to be giving you people hell about your team as I usually do but I can't ever find enough interest to try...


It's nothing but a glorified scrimmage , if you come out of the game without injuries regardless of the score you win. Raiders lost because acquired injuries in the game.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8832162)

You've stuck to your guns all along when it would be easy to fling shit(unlike your buddy September Fart). Props.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832159)

I dont give a rat's ass about his size.

Jackie Battle is a hell of a lot bigger, and he is every bit as useless.

McCluster was drafted because he was touted as this fast and elusive playmaker.

He is neither exceptionally fast, nor elusive.

He is far from a playmaker.

He's a guy that got a bunch of meaningless yards on a bunch of meaningless carries.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832165)

You got to admit though, the "Mullet Curls" shit was funny as hell LMAO

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8832167)

Well, when you have a shaved, tatooed forehead, it's easy to get jealous of those of us with hair.

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8832166)

So, Jackie Battle and Dex are similar players. That is hilarious how you think.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832173)

Reckon he has a face tattoo too?

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8832177)

Probably some of those stick ons. He's trying to "look" tough after all. It's the Raider Way.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8832184)

Do it. Don't forget to put on the Road Warrior shoulder pads too. You could still be a wrestler.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832182)

Tell the truth

If you had a choice of two RB's that NEVER got hurt...

Would you picK JC or DMC?

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8832188)

Can't go wrong with either one really. Of course I'm going to be partial to Charles after he nearly set the YPC alltime record though. Unfortunately, durability is the only thing holding either back from raping the league.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832182)

Tell the truth

If you had a choice of two RB's that NEVER got hurt...

Would you picK JC or DMC?

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832198)

The funny thing is, JaMaal Charles has actually been more durable, and has averaged nearly a full yard and a half per carry better than McFadden in their respective careers.

McFadden's best season for YPC is only .1 yard better than Charles worst.

So, yeah, I am taking Charles.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832208)

Meh, either one is a luxury... I will take a healthy DMC personally because of the punishing running style.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832214)

I don't know.

I think speed wears down a defense quicker and more effectively than power.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832219)

I may be wrong but I think the 40 times for both are 4.33 for DMC and 4.34 for Charles so speed should not even be compared with the two.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832225)

I am not comparing speed, but rather comparing styles.

As you pointed out, McFadden is a more punishing runner, so he's not using that speed with the same effectiveness that Charles uses his.

That is, of course, the product of their size difference, but's it relevant to the issue.

Charles is stronger than most give him credit, but he doesn't seek out contact the same way that McFadden does.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8832227)

I would take either one on my team and if we had JC instead of DMC and if the Cheaps had DMC I doubt either one of us would be complaining when they are both healthy.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832233)

Well, I would not have even gone to make comparisons if you hadn't asked.

Originally Posted by bricks (Post 8832263)

And Cassel is clearly the starter.

Competition at QB isn't even close. There just is none. I'm trying to figure whether Stanzi has a long ways to go or if he just isn't that good? Quinn forget about it. Im not gonna place my hopes in him.

*At least Cassel is playing well though. That's the only positive I can take from this point.

Originally Posted by bricks (Post 8832255)

I don't worry too much about the preseason but I'll say this,

Yesterday's game gave us an indication of how important Flowers is to the Chiefs football team. The Rams did the smart thing by attacking Flowers replacement.

They exposed the team weakness really well. I also think Belcher is a big liability in coverage. I wouldn't be surprised come season time that teams decide to attack in his area.