Well **** me

Assuming we don't go Geno and land say Sean Smith and Canty.. I would take Patterson. That guy is a playmaker.. And we need some firepower on offense

LMAO

Defensive linemen take time...we know this...what's the difference between drafting a defensive linemen that will need time to develop and drafting a quarterback that will, too...except that the upside for the quarterback is exponentially higher?

There isn't a Suh in this class...no JJ Watt.

I don't see a single pick that would greatly impact this team year one.

The pick just has to be QB.

They are looking at the big picture and throwing a first and 2 seconds at the position to fully solidify it.

(Please let this be true)

Every player in this draft who could go in the top ten, you can say well there is a guy we can get in the second who might not be quite as good but pretty close.

We really picked a great year to have the first overall pick

I sure hope you are a mult trying to be funny or troll.

Kejuan Riley - Safety

As much as we want that first pick to be a badass playmaker from day 1, there just isn't that guy in this draft at the top.

Based on our current setup, really, the only guy that could come in and start and make a difference day 1, is probably Milliner. But even with that you get into the whole "he's not worthy of the first pick" convo.

There isn't a player in this draft "worth" the first overall pick. There isn't a sure fire guy in the bunch. There is however a shit load of good depth in this draft.

We're going to get boned with value, but we are going to have to trade down and recoup that second rounder or sit tight and take a developmental guy at 1.

Maybe we're looking at Tarvaris Jackson's brother as our QBOTF

BJ Kissel ‏@bkissel7
Imagine #Chiefs sign a Free Agent CB, as was rumored they were looking, & Chris Canty, who they had on visit. Imagine THAT draft convo after

All the moves we've made so far are win now moves. Drafting a QB at 1 to sit behind Smith isn't a win now move, it's a future move.


I'm fine with it sure, but I'm not sure thats the way they want to go. But that brings us back to the point that there isn't a single guy in this draft who is a day 1 difference maker.

You could argue Milliner I guess, but IMO, he's a high upside great #2 CB. I don't know if he is a shut down 1 type guy.

Here's how I think the 'other' QB will come, (in order of odds in favor):

A- FA. Matt Moore? Drew Stanton?

B- Draft round 4-7. Only to serve as a backup and to see if he has somethinfg to develop. If Wilson or Manuel fall to 3rd, maybe the 3rd round, but otherwise 4-7.

C- A trade down with the Eagles if they reveal thay really like Geno Smith to take him high. IMO if this happens it will include Nick Foles whom Andy will set out to patiently develop. (Not much chance of this now after the Alex Smith trade.)

D- If Andy sees potential in Stanzi.

Also, the best LT in the league plays for a team that hasn't won more than 5 games a season in the last 5 years.

We don't need a number one cb flowers is that. If we go Millner rout we will have a very talented defensive backfield . Add a fs with potential tj McDonald this will rival the best in the nfl. That in turn will lead to more people covered and more sacks.


Truthfully I have no idea what the chiefs are gonna do now

In one game Milliner went from a mid first round pick to top five talent. Teo went from a high pick to mid to late first round. The reality is Milliner looked better than he is because ND sucked and Teo looked worst than he is because Bama was just too good at every other position.

STANZIMANIA RIDES AGAIN!

ROFL

Smith was the free agent acquisition. They won't bring in another. He's on a 2 year deal, they'll be looking for a young guy to groom if/when he fails.

I'd throw Foles completely out at this point. The Eagles wanted a 2 for him and we sent a 2 plus another pick to the 9ers for a different QB. The Foles to KC talk is done and was overblown. In any event, the Eagles don't hold any leverage for him.

You really want a 4-7 round QB to be the backup QB?

Jesus dude.

I'm down for drew Stanton.

Serious question.

If you have to draft a QB somewhere anyway, and there's no cant miss guys at one, why not draft the best QB available?

Are we really wanting a #2 CB with the #1 overall pick? LMAO

IF we are stuck at 1, which I don't think we will be, I'd take Milliner. Which sucks, because had we just spent money last year and locked up our home grown guy, this wouldn't be a problem.

IF we can trade down to say 7 with the Cardinals or 5 with teh Lions and get back picks, I think there would be a better chance they end up taking a Qb than them sitting at 1.

They have no need to draft a QB. They have Alex Smith under contract for two years at a minimum due to his guaranteed salary. If they draft a QB, it will be in later rounds of the draft.

I would rather draft Glennon at 1 than draft a CB.

That bjkissel guy is the true fans of all true fans. Tard beyond tard.

I kind of agree with you. I think Tamba gets more credit and hype for the production he delivers. At the same time I have to say I think he gets held more than any player I have ever seen and gets no calls, which is actually another reason to trade him.

This is really the problem with any player you wanna put at 1 this year.

Milliner? Sure but is he a shut down guy and is he that much better than a guy you can get in the 2nd?

Geno? Sure tons of potential and talent, but how much better is he than a guy you can get in the 2nd?

Floyd? Lotta upside, but lacks pass rush skills and is a 34 DE, is he a better fit there than a guy like Margus Hunt? Who knows.


It's pretty maddening.

One thing that seems to be an option in my opinion would be ....

Since they seem to be opting for the win now approach, I figure they're going to target the CB and DL spot in free agency. If they do that, and get good players there, I'd be looking to take the guy at 1 who has the absolute most upside of anyone in the draft. Could be Geno, Could be Warmack, could be whoever. There is a risk he's probably not going to impact your team the first year, but if things go according to plan, he wouldn't half too. It's a shit thing for the 1st pick because you want a difference making cornerstone there. But for all thats there right now, I don't see that guy at 1.

Pretty much. The Chiefs don't have a choice. Nobody is gonna trade with us anyway.

Absolutely.

Isn't he the head writer for AP?

Kissel is right and what would make it real interesting is if we signed an Aqib Talib and Canty.

I'm not sure who would make sense at 1 then.

Do you even have the cap space?

I'm just saying overall. Arrowhead Addict and Arrowhead Pride are the worst. True fans circle jerk galore.

Kissel isn't bad. He can't just be "Go **** your mothers, we're taking a QB!" since he has to cover ALL possibilities. It's his job.

He does good work in his youtube videos. I like them a lot. And throughout this entire 2-14 season and offseason leading up to the Alex Smith trade, he was pretty damn enthusiastic about the QBs in the draft. Talked (and wrote) a lot about each one. He's also kept the offensive line talk to a minimum throughout this entire process.

Yeah, he's a little bit bland, but he's far from a true fan or a tard.

You must have some insider info that others don't. The Eagles said Foles was not available, last I checked. Maybe we called their bluff and went after AS.

And you laugh at me and immediately follow it with this gem, "Smith was the free agent acquisition?" Really? ... After we gave them to 2nds?

I laughed at you because you want to back up an oft injured QB with a 4-7 round pick.

The Eagles said publicly Foles isn't available, then leaked that they would ask a high pick for him, ala 1 or 2 rounder.

Smith is the "free agent" acquisition. He's the stop gap. You don't put another stop gap behind him.

Well, you might I guess. Who knows.

The Eagles have been very active with the QB position; signing 3 QBs since Kelly's arrival...Foles [and Edwards] WASN'T one of them.. I don't think he [Foles] is off limits...

I'd gladly take Foles, their 4th pick, their 2nd rounder, and a 2nd next year for the first overall pick.

Just don't know who they're trading up for.

They need a LT.

I guess if they aren't sold on Peters being healthy, but again, they can just sit at 4 and take Joeckel or Fisher.

Unless they are afraid of someone trading up to get one of them I guess. We better start selling the shit out of that to someoen.

When Jackson is gone they will.

That's 15 million off the books. When Cassel goes, and Smith comes on, that's only about a 2.5 mill increase.

I don't know about Arrowhead Addict, but Arrowhead Pride for the most part has been CP-lite this off season. They were on the Geno bandwagon almost as hard as CP and were just as pissed at the Smith trade http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/2...e-chiefs-49ers

Man those 2 would be great additions.

Something we can agree on.

I dunno what Canty will cost, shouldn't be a whole lot, I think Taliban is a pipe dream but after seeing what the ravens wee able to do with flacco I don't really think we should be all too worried about te money side

Sean Smith > Talib

I know nothing about Sean smith at all so ill defer in that one

Does anyone know how much cap space we currently have after the signings including smith with the 14 mil rollover cap.

Is Jadeveon Clowney still ineligible?

Yeah. This team needs an injection of veteran talent. That's for damn sure.

I couldn't agree more. :clap:

It's such empty, lifeless information. I just shake my head, like whaaat?

I don't know about that per say, I don't think talent was as big of a problem as te environment and coaching were. Based on what I've heard the last few weeks I'm surprised we actually arrive to games as a team

I think the new coaching staff and fo make this a plus 4 or 5 win team based on last years talent alone.

If it's not Geno Smith then we have to trade back. All the other QBs suck and that raises Geno's value. Some team or teams will come calling for his services. Then take Milliner to pair with Flowers or the best pass rusher. Werner or Deon Jordan. But really the Chiefs offense could line up and play right now so we could just go ahead and take Geno Smith and develope him by bringing him along slowly.

1- Did I say I "want?" I implied that's the range in which you are most likely to target a back up QB. Teams don't quit drafting QBs after round 3. But when they do they are most likely looking for backups.

2- I'm aware that there are posturing done in the NFL trade game. The Eagle overvalued Foles because they though Andy is infatuated by him. I think Andy likes Foles' upside very much, but the Chiefs called the Eagles bluff and traded for Smith. Now if Kelly feels Geno is designed for his O and wants to sit ahead of Oakland, he has to accept the Chiefs terms for the Foles compensation. It appears the Chiefs may have won this hand of poker.

3- You may think Alex Smith is "stop gap." I doubt the Chiefs see it that way. I think they have traded for him with every hope that he is at least good for the next 5 or 6 years. It's a "What have you done lately" league and Smith has been very good in the last two years.

That would be the craziest first half an hour or so of any draft in history. That would be great to watch.

I think Justin Hunter is the better pro honestly, he was better pre ACL.

All I've ever heard was he was challenging the rule. Not another thing about it. I'd bet he doesn't win the appeal

hopefully we pick up Tebow in free agency and then draft Manti Te'o #1

I still want Geno. Alex needs that young stud behind him, pushing him, hard.

The irony of someone from CP calling out other sites for being a big circle jerk...it's amazing.

Piss off Cockmon

Just a hunch...but I predict Reid and Dorsey will be pimping Milliner a lot... enough to worry the dopes in Detroit who will pay a kings ransom for him. We take their #6 and their 2nd rounder next year for our #1 overall. Detroit takes Milliner and we draft....I have to idea.

hahaha, chance warmack! hahaha

:clap:

I would be happy with:

Geno
Milliner
Floyd
Austin
Warmack
Fisher

They will trade back with the Eagles and take Milliner.

Patterson

I wonder if they try and deal with the Raiders?

McKenzie should know Dorsey and Reid fairly well i would imagine?

Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride

Dorsey says on 810 they've talked about trading pick. Just "ongoing" conversations he says.

IF we get back our second round pick (I believe they are 3rd in the second round), I wouldn't be unhappy.

Chris Wesseling ‏@ChrisWesseling

Chiefs' only goal with the No. 1 overall pick is to select a future Hall of Famer regardless of position, reports @RapSheet on Total Access.

Rappaport has been getting his shit pushed in this offseason. ****ing dumbass.

A MID TO LATE FIRST ROUNDER!? ARE YOU HIGH???? He MIGHT be a 3rd round pick. I bet Jon Bostic gets taken before that fraud. Geez dude. Thought you were smart.

If by winning NOW you mean picking 13-18th in the draft then LET'S GET ER DONE!