if Albert stays who gets cut?

I'm assuming Jeff Allen

another Scooter pick down the drain

Yeah, but Willie Roaf ain't walking through that door. :(

Worse? No, i think he has made at least one guy better. And thats vernon. He doesnt make people worse. Doesnt make them worse. Yeah, oops, i made a mistake. You uh, never make those do you?

Why would he be cut? There are 7 OL and he's one of them.

:spock:

LMAO Welcome to full ignore.

In terms of value pretty much everything.

They gave up too much for Alex Smith. I think they paid too much for some average free agents, and I think the playmakers on the outside minus Bowe are a joke.

I don't think Dorsey got the best value for 1.1, Didn't get anything for Albert, and I think it was pretty obvious they wanted Barkley in the 4th but failed to get him.

Nooo. God no. I answer a question, that you fail to make a counter argument against. Boo hoooo. Alex Smith, and vernon set the single game tight end receiving mark in the playoffs. EVER. :thumb:

Damn this thread looks beautiful without that trolling.

Keep doubting Knile Davis!!!

Glad someone else finds this new regime's trade valuation a bit shall we say...terrible.

I'm not going to completely bail on Dorsey, but I do not think he has been as advertised thus far.

Don't see it.

Why would the Eagles trade ahead of them in the 4th round?

to get ahead of oakland.

i think the chiefs got the guy they wanted......They got Bray......

Going to trade Albert, not going to trade Albert.

Drafting Fisher to be our LT... Moves to RT.

Trade CB for another FB.

Sign statistically, the worst starting corner in the league to start opposite of flowers.

What is wrong with these morons?

2015 baby!

Arenas was going to have a hard time making the squad if you ask me. I like the kid, but he's nothing special. They got something for him instead of releasing him outright. Big deal.

This.

I have the solution to all of this. We just need to find a lefty QB.

Man they better not put Fisher at RT. Move Albert to LG or RT, but by god please dont put Fisher at RT. But seriously, this line is looking incredible.

Bray was their mad scramble at last call when they realized they might go home alone...

All but confirmed, KC wasn't looking to move on him in the 4th. Andy said he was on the phone with Sabah at the time asking about a final take on one of their players, and they were afraid any of those next couple teams were gonna possibly take him and that's why the jumped a couple spots is what Jaws said. Finally, this question was addressed to Herm also and he said flat out that he talked with guys in KC's war room and while the buzz may have been discussed in the media during the draft, KC wasn't going to take Barkley either way, Philly simply jumped up because they had him roughly in their top 50 players on their white board and didn't want to gamble sitting back because the teams drafting right ahead had QB as a need position, so they felt jumping up for getting him was a steal.

1) You need a franchise QB to win a Super Bowl.

2) Alex Smith is not a franchise QB.

3) As long as Alex Smith is our QB, we will not win a Super Bowl.

This is how I see things, so I'm not going to get too excited about us possibly going 10-6 and losing 17-13 in the wildcard round of the playoffs.

Well hey that'd be better than the last playoff game we were in....

Why? Just play them wherever it works best. If the best line is Fisher at RT and Albert at LT then put them there.

The Niners drafted 1.11 in 2010 and put Davis at RT. Yeah, 1.1's higher but it was supposedly a crappy draft with no difference makers in the top 10 per some analysts.

You have to wonder if Reids Tackle struggles towards the end of his Philly run are fueling some of this. This would definitely be a lot of investment in the line combined with the young interior and would leave us with a 3rd round backup tackle as well.

I mean, if Reid wants to put Fisher at RT, then alright. But to me it would seem better to leave Fisher, the rookie, at the position he's best at, which is also probably the most important on the o-line.

I dont think it matters where Fisher is on the line. He's going to be a beast wherever be is.

I agree. But I think LT is more inmportant than RT, so if Albert is at all able to play any other position, IMO it'd be best for him to move rather than Fisher.

We don't know what position he'd be best at. We only know that if the Chiefs had traded Albert we'd have put him at LT because as you said it's the most important. If we retain Albert we have options as Albert is strong at protecting the QB. Even if Fisher is a better LT. How bad is Albert at RT? He's not a great run blocker at LT so how much worse does he look on the right side?

They'll sort it out and as long as they win no one will care where Fisher was drafted or where he plays. If they lose it'll get ugly if 1.1 is at RT though

I guess this is the thing I can't get out of my head. I don't like the idea of spending the #1 on a RT. But hey, if it works out better than moving Albert, then ok.

See the funny thing about this they are terming it as "working on" which has been occurring from the beginning of this offseason. So in other words Albert will just play out his tender and look for a bigger payday afterwards.

you're not really this stupid


are you?

Alex Smith Fan you belong over at Chiefs Crowd. The stupidity over there defies logic, a true match made in internet heaven.

Talking Can has crushed everyone in this thread. In fact there are only a few people I admire at CP and one of them is this guy.

Most teams have two very good edge rushers. Obviously the blindside is important but teams need a solid RT to handle the likes of Justin Houston. No issue using 1.1 on a RT.

What's the deadline to sign tagged players to long term deals?

July 15th? I think

JFC...

Hahaha

Yeah, we wanted him so badly that we didn't even draft him in the 7th round.

You've been here for 700 posts. **** up.

Just reading this out is awesome for some reason. ROFLROFL

FYP

Andy's a bit of a showboater. He's just trying to make his brilliant QB evaluation and coaching look even more amazing.

Eh. We already bought the shitty package of 16 crayons. The nice box with 96 different colors and the built-in sharpener might be on sale, but I really doubt the store is going to accept a return on a box of crayons. We've got the 16, so we may as well use them. Maybe if we ask mommy instead of daddy, we can get some more money to go buy the 96 box so our idyllic pastoral landscape we're drawing doesn't look like a piece of shit. Then at least we're stocked up on the really important colors like the dark green, brown, black, and both shades of blue.

If he doesn't bust or get injured.

I was one of the biggest Geno supporters and I don't think Geno has anything to do with Fisher being a poor selection. This was obviously a tackle heavy draft, and we have a coach who values both sides of the line equally so I understand why we did it and I don't hate it. At all. I can see some serious upside to our running game, and protecting our game manager.

I just think Dion Jordan would've been a much better selection. He has elite potential and Tamba isn't getting younger. It would've been an incredible rotation and we would've had the most sacks in the league next year IMO. That itself takes a lot of pressure off of an offense. What's done is done though, my choice to be a fan and I'm optimistic.

:LOL: I like it.

Dion may end up being great, but he's FAR from that right now. I didn't want another "potential" pick. I think Fisher is much closer to being Pro Bowl calibre than either Dion or Geno for that matter.

Please tell me he's a poster here. Please.

That's true, and fair enough. He does have bust potential.

So does Fisher.

MY god this is what we are reduced to as Chiefs fans. Arguing over whether OL or DL is the safer overall pick at 1.1

Albert tested the waters and found out that nobody is willing to give the guy what he wants to play LT being as you can now draft one for half the cost and have just as good or better value. He sees the guys that will be coming out in the draft next year and realizes that at 30 years old, he better play ball or his career will get derailed. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him get good guard money on a long term deal and have Fisher as the LT

Exactly.

ROFL

LOL

I just cannot understand how anyone can get so excited about an OT.

He and Miami agreed on compensation as a LT you do realize this yes?

There are guys like Von Miller coming around the right side of our offensive line. Probably won't be many more years before being a RT has the same prestige as being an LT.

yes, that is the report. But if Miami was only offering a 3rd, also the report, then Alberts agent has to know that next year isn't going to be any better, and most likely worse for his client to get a good deal.

Hey, I was just respecting the guy's opinion. Dion was my choice for the Chiefs. I think he's going to be an elite sacker in this league. You can't have enough of those guys. Houston, Hali, and Jordan would've been amazing IMO.

Outside of Geno, who turned into a 2nd rounder, Dion Jordan was my pick. I mean 1 QB went in the entire 1st round. What's that say? And who here wanted EJ Manuel with the 1st pick in the draft? Bad timing for us. A lot of people say they're smarter than Reid and Dorsey, but they'd be idiots to say they're smarter than everyone in the league.

C'mon man we got Catapano.

He'll be coming around the left side now that Dumervil is gone.

So I take it we didn't lock him up long term...

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You are equating his value for draft picks with what he is worth on the open market. That is mistaken.

Because they knew he was going undrafted or had a pretty good idea. Bray is as talented as any and scored as good on the wonderlic as Geno and RG 3

There's a handful of top notch OTs in next years draft.

Don't worry guys, I've got this:

He's talking about Ziggy Ansah, clearly.

I'm so tired of the idiots on the radio talking about moving Albert to guard or right tackle. I don't give a shit if we drafted fisher number one overall. Albert is a damn good left tackle.

Guy's like Miller. Heck, we have Hali and Houston.

I suspect that the Chiefs & Cardinals are discussing a trade for Brandon Albert. Just a feeling. No pics, no links, no evidence...so I will gladly GTFO. Have a nice day.

Glad we got 2 book end tackles **** it. Would have liked a guy like Austin but oh well.

Agreed.

Disagree. I don't think anybody wanted to trade a 2nd rounder and a big contract. If they didn't have to give up picks for him, Albert would be playing in another city right now.

I don't know what everyone thinks he was asking, but my understanding is about 8mil per. Not out of this world LT money by any means. Hell, top G's in the league make more than that...

Depends on how good of a year he has this year...

Hountouka?

Too many of Dion's sacks came uncontested for me. I think he'll be solid all the way around, but not a stud rusher. Basically Tamba...

The piece on Total Access last night said Albert will not be traded. :shrug:

Thank god. Don't want another DT

Andy reid to be on SiriusXm nfl radio at 2 ET to talk draft and Branden Albert.

I don't realize that. What I realize is that some report out of Miami made that claim. But as we know, reports are often just as wrong as the report that said Andy Reid was going to coach the Cardinals.