ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Jamaal Charles was just carted off field as a precaution. (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275269)

siberian khatru 08-13-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9880658)
So....he's dead then?

If you listen to Reid's Monday press conference backwards, you can hear him saying "I buried Jamaal. I buried Jamaal."

GloryDayz 08-13-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9880820)
If you listen to Reid's Monday press conference backwards, you can hear him saying "I buried Jamaal. I buried Jamaal."

All things being equal, he'd need help because he's not the most fit fella in the world, so digging a hole that deep would result in him dying of a heart attack. JMO...

TEX 08-13-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9880838)
All things being equal, he'd need help because he's not the most fit fella in the world, so digging a hole that deep would result in him dying of a heart attack. JMO...

Mud pit. Belly flop into it. Splash the mud out. NO digging required...

O.city 08-13-2013 10:03 AM

@adamteicher: Chiefs trainer Rick burlholder said Charles os day to day. Ruled out long term issue like lisfranc

RINGLEADER 08-13-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9880962)
@adamteicher: Chiefs trainer Rick burlholder said Charles os day to day. Ruled out long term issue like lisfranc

As long as he's not day to day a month from now that seems like pretty good news.

Ming the Merciless 08-13-2013 10:07 AM

did he died?


http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...44688_700b.jpg

CaliforniaChief 08-13-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9880962)
@adamteicher: Chiefs trainer Rick burlholder said Charles os day to day. Ruled out long term issue like lisfranc

*large, long, exhale*

The Franchise 08-13-2013 10:16 AM

Between Draughn, Grey and Davis.....they can handle all of the carries until Week 1. They need all the snaps they can get anyways.

O.city 08-13-2013 10:26 AM

@TJCarpenterWHB: Jamaal Charles rolled his ankle yesterday and it strained the ligaments and they held him out of practice today according to Rick Burkholder

Chiefs Pantalones 08-13-2013 10:30 AM

He's fine. Thankfully!

Chiefs Pantalones 08-13-2013 10:49 AM

Now hopefully we don't see him again until week one.

thabear04 08-13-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9881113)
Now hopefully we don't see him again until week one.

I would rest Charles until week 1 or play him in the last pre season game and let him run the ball for a carry and catch the ball. Then take him out of the game and let the other RB fight for the final 2 spots.

T-post Tom 08-13-2013 11:57 AM

810 just played a Chiefs interview featuring one of the team trainers. My, what a culture change from the last few years. Confirmed that it was a strained ligament on the outside of the foot/ankle. JC has seen two orthopedic surgeons. NO serious damage to soft tissue or bone. JC will stay 'day-to-day' status. Someone send donk-homer Adam Shitner a bag of dicks.

jettio 08-13-2013 12:11 PM

Jamal Charles should practice when healthy. A lot of his big runs the last few years have been on stretch plays. I am not sure we will see many of those in the new offense. If that is the case, practice will help him get ready for the plays that will be run.

Knile Davis ran a kickoff back 60+ yards on Friday after taking it from the left to the middle of the field and then making a cut back to the left and then finding open field.

I think the people complaining about his running style are not considering how poorly the backup O-line played. The Saints D-line overpowered our backup O-line in the first half. So I would not make any judgments about Davis or Chase Daniel based on Friday's 1st half.

Saul Good 08-13-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 9881438)
Jamal Charles should practice when healthy. A lot of his big runs the last few years have been on stretch plays. I am not sure we will see many of those in the new offense. If that is the case, practice will help him get ready for the plays that will be run.

Knile Davis ran a kickoff back 60+ yards on Friday after taking it from the left to the middle of the field and then making a cut back to the left and then finding open field.

I think the people complaining about his running style are not considering how poorly the backup O-line played. The Saints D-line overpowered our backup O-line in the first half. So I would not make any judgments about Davis or Chase Daniel based on Friday's 1st half.

Davis will be fine. Larry Johnson had the same issues his first year or two.

Strongside 08-13-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9881460)
Davis will be fine. Larry Johnson had the same issues his first year or two.

Yeah. Knile will be slapping bitches at the Plaza III and throwing drinks on hoes from the VIP at Mosaiic in no time.

Messier 08-13-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 9881394)
810 just played a Chiefs interview featuring one of the team trainers. My, what a culture change from the last few years. Confirmed that it was a strained ligament on the outside of the foot/ankle. JC has seen two orthopedic surgeons. NO serious damage to soft tissue or bone. JC will stay 'day-to-day' status. Someone send donk-homer Adam Shitner a bag of dicks.

Wow. How refreshing. Remember, was it last year? When Flowers spent the entire preseason out, and no one ever gave an answer about what was going on.

DJ's left nut 08-13-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 9881394)
810 just played a Chiefs interview featuring one of the team trainers. My, what a culture change from the last few years. Confirmed that it was a strained ligament on the outside of the foot/ankle. JC has seen two orthopedic surgeons. NO serious damage to soft tissue or bone. JC will stay 'day-to-day' status. Someone send donk-homer Adam Shitner a bag of dicks.

Now that's a legitimate relief.

Outside of the foot is a hell of a lot less scary.

O.city 08-13-2013 01:42 PM

Yeah, like I said yesterday, with stepping on another players foot as the cause it seemed unlikely that it was a lisfranc thing

saphojunkie 08-13-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9881617)
Wow. How refreshing. Remember, was it last year? When Flowers spent the entire preseason out, and no one ever gave an answer about what was going on.

But look at the advantage that gave us! We managed to win two games when we should have won zero.

Messier 08-13-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9881776)
But look at the advantage that gave us! We managed to win two games when we should have won zero.

The plan worked perfectly.

BlackHelicopters 08-13-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9881776)
But look at the advantage that gave us! We managed to win two games when we should have won zero.

We could have eked out a third win.................

MagicHef 08-13-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9882029)
We could have eked out a third win.................

Good thing you didn't. You wouldn't have had the #1 pick, and then you would have missed out on...

Oh. Never mind.

FlaChief58 08-13-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9881776)
But look at the advantage that gave us! We managed to win two games when we should have won zero.

Yay, we only sucked a lot....

FlaChief58 08-13-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9882058)
Good thing you didn't. You wouldn't have had the #1 pick, and then you would have missed out on...

Oh. Never mind.

KEEP DOUBTING OUR RT!!!

philfree 08-14-2013 09:46 AM

TJ Carpenter @TJCarpenterWHB
Andy Reid: "If push came to shove we probably could have practiced (Jamaal) today, kept him out as a precaution." #Chiefs

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9884087)
TJ Carpenter @TJCarpenterWHB
Andy Reid: "If push came to shove we probably could have practiced (Jamaal) today, kept him out as a precaution." #Chiefs

:fistpump:

BlackHelicopters 08-14-2013 09:56 AM

Maybe he can wear a walking boot as a precaution.

TEX 08-14-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9884087)
TJ Carpenter @TJCarpenterWHB
Andy Reid: "If push came to shove we probably could have practiced (Jamaal) today, kept him out as a precaution." #Chiefs

Keep him out until next week as a precaution.

Mav 08-14-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9884148)
Keep him out until week one as a precaution.

FYP

saphojunkie 08-14-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9884111)
Maybe he can wear a walking boot as a precaution.

You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!

Mr. Laz 08-14-2013 10:26 AM

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher 4m
Reid says Charles could play Friday night against 49ers: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/14...arles-out.html

Marcellus 08-14-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9884169)
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher 4m
Reid says Charles could play Friday night against 49ers: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/14...arles-out.html

"Could" does not = will. I pray.

Dave Lane 08-14-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9884175)
"Could" does not = will. I pray.

I will hope. We don't need anymore crap like that.

vailpass 08-14-2013 10:31 AM

Football players need to play.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 10:32 AM

I hope he plays. it would mean the injury was minor. now go buy a jersey you chocostud worshipers

silver5liter 08-14-2013 10:47 AM

They had him jogging up a big hill for a while, seemed fine.

Ecto-I 08-14-2013 10:59 AM

Charles should play if he's healthy. I feel like keeping everyone out just out of fear would likely result in either subpar early season performances bc people aren't up to game speed, or early injuries for the same reason.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9884221)
They had him jogging up a big hill for a while, seemed fine.

today?

milkman 08-14-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecto-I (Post 9884255)
Charles should play if he's healthy. I feel like keeping everyone out just out of fear would likely result in either subpar early season performances bc people aren't up to game speed, or early injuries for the same reason.

Adrian Peterson subcribes to this theory.

silver5liter 08-14-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9884287)
today?

Yup, he was by spratt stadium with a few other players rehabbing going up and down a pretty damn steep hill. Id say hes alright.

Saccopoo 08-14-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9884148)
Keep him out until next week as a precaution.

Shit, keep him out of the preseason as a precaution. Give him the Tony Gonzalez free summer pass. We know that dude can run.

patteeu 08-14-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecto-I (Post 9884255)
Charles should play if he's healthy. I feel like keeping everyone out just out of fear would likely result in either subpar early season performances bc people aren't up to game speed, or early injuries for the same reason.

I agree. If he's healthy, let him play a few series. If he's still significantly dinged, let him have a week to recover and then give him a full (preseason game 3) load the next week.

Rain Man 08-14-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9884111)
Maybe he can wear a walking boot as a precaution.

He's so valuable that we should have him in two walking boots during games. I don't want any chance of having him injured.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9884307)
Yup, he was by spratt stadium with a few other players rehabbing going up and down a pretty damn steep hill. Id say hes alright.

oh okay -- good good news thx

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9884309)
Shit, keep him out of the preseason as a precaution. Give him the Tony Gonzalez free summer pass. We know that dude can run.

they are building this team around Jamaal's superior skills. he needs to be in this all pre season long if they are going to be any good this season.

from what I saw last friday, this WR/TE group is going to take time to get the PB to a point where the team can rely less on Jamaal.

Fat Elvis 08-14-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9884309)
Shit, keep him out of the preseason as a precaution. Give him the Tony Gonzalez free summer pass. We know that dude can run.

Keep him out of the season, everyone knows we aren't going to do better than 5-11/ ASmith haters

Mr. Laz 08-14-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9884344)
they are building this team around Jamaal's superior skills. he needs to be in this all pre season long if they are going to be any good this season.

from what I saw last friday, this WR/TE group is going to take time to get the PB to a point where the team can rely less on Jamaal.

just die

Saul Good 08-14-2013 11:32 AM

He should probably just retire. Can't risk getting him hurt.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9884352)
just die

did I make you choke on your twinky lunch

Discuss Thrower 08-14-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9884298)
Adrian Peterson subcribes to this theory.

Yeah but Adrian Peterson is a Greek god.

Mr. Laz 08-14-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9884368)
did I make you choke on your twinky breakfast

you should choke on something after suggesting a team should play their starting veteran RB all preseason long.


the RB have the shortest careers for a reason



You don't play them a ton in preseason to make it even worse.

Fat Elvis 08-14-2013 11:40 AM

http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic..._bubbleboy.jpg

Put him in a bubble.

Mav 08-14-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9884373)
you should choke on something after suggesting a team should play their starting veteran RB all preseason long.


the RB have the shortest careers for a reason



You don't play them a ton in preseason to make it even worse.

Not even if hes dinged? Frank Gore almost never plays in the preseason. I could see sitting him out this week, and playing him with the starters in week 3, and then sitting him week 4 as all the starters will sit anyways.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9884361)
He should probably just retire. Can't risk getting him hurt.

http://wp.streetwise.co/wp-content/u...l-charles.jpeg

saphojunkie 08-14-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9884383)
Not even if hes dinged? Frank Gore almost never plays in the preseason. I could see sitting him out this week, and playing him with the starters in week 3, and then sitting him week 4 as all the starters will start anyways.

This works.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9884373)
you should choke on something after suggesting a team should play their starting veteran RB all preseason long.


the RB have the shortest careers for a reason



You don't play them a ton in preseason to make it even worse.

why are you so god damn dense. with the 1's ****face... with the 1's :spank:

Mr. Laz 08-14-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9884382)

so you are suggesting that we 'use up' the limited number of carries of our elite level running back in preseason games?

Frosty 08-14-2013 11:46 AM

Charles should sit for the preseason except for some series Week 3. Davis needs the work anyway.

Saccopoo 08-14-2013 11:47 AM

Laz has a definite point. However, I do understand that this is a new offense, and even, perhaps, the first "real" offense Charles has been a part of in his entire NFL career. He does need to learn the playbook and develop continuity with his teammates in the system.

However, as Laz stated, just by the nature of his position, his career is limited unless he's really, really lucky and pulls an Emmitt Smith. Most running backs just don't have the longevity based on their position and what they are required to do on a daily basis in the NFL.

You can see the perceived/understood importance of Charles to this team (at least from a fans perspective) by the reaction to a minor injury that he seems to be recovered from already. Hell, you can see the importance of Charles to Reid and the offense as he got the cart treatment immediately. As such, I wouldn't be too opposed to see Charles standing on the sidelines for the rest of the preseason. Hell, it might even give us a look at the Gray, Davis, Droughn battle for that backup spot.

I think Gray has a lot of potential in this system, but we didn't see much if any of him in that first preseason game.

Mr. Laz 08-14-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9884394)
why are you so god damn dense. with the 1's ****face... with the 1's :spank:

that's funny ... i don't see anything about 1's

i don't see anything about limit in your post at all

i see "he needs to be in this all pre season long"

now if your moronic ass misspoke then just say so ... but don't put that on me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9884344)
they are building this team around Jamaal's superior skills. he needs to be in this all pre season long if they are going to be any good this season.

from what I saw last friday, this WR/TE group is going to take time to get the PB to a point where the team can rely less on Jamaal.


Mr. Laz 08-14-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9884405)
Laz has a definite point. However, I do understand that this is a new offense, and even, perhaps, the first "real" offense Charles has been a part of in his entire NFL career. He does need to learn the playbook and develop continuity with his teammates in the system.

However, as Laz stated, just by the nature of his position, his career is limited unless he's really, really lucky and pulls an Emmitt Smith. Most running backs just don't have the longevity based on their position and what they are required to do on a daily basis in the NFL.

You can see the perceived/understood importance of Charles to this team (at least from a fans perspective) by the reaction to a minor injury that he seems to be recovered from already. Hell, you can see the importance of Charles to Reid and the offense as he got the cart treatment immediately. As such, I wouldn't be too opposed to see Charles standing on the sidelines for the rest of the preseason. Hell, it might even give us a look at the Gray, Davis, Droughn battle for that backup spot.

I think Gray has a lot of potential in this system, but we didn't see much if any of him in that first preseason game.

Charles is a veteran guy who can learn this new offense in practice during the no/low contract drills. Imo.

in preseason you use young guys at RB and kick returning etc ... let them absorb the hits to prolong the life of your quality veterans.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9884409)
that's funny ... i don't see anything about 1's

i don't see anything about limit in your post at all

i see "he needs to be in this all pre season long"

now if your moronic ass misspoke then just say so ... but don't put that on me.

I'm sorry I ever thought you'd make an intelligent assumption. in the future, don't look for me to spell out every detail for morons, so not to upset them.

DaFace 08-14-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecto-I (Post 9884255)
Charles should play if he's healthy. I feel like keeping everyone out just out of fear would likely result in either subpar early season performances bc people aren't up to game speed, or early injuries for the same reason.

Agreed. If they're worried about it, hold him out. But if he's healthy, he plays.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 12:01 PM

it's funny how the team treated tony g like a prima donna and he became a prima donna

saphojunkie 08-14-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9884461)
it's funny how the team treated tony g like a prima donna and he became a prima donna

I think it's more that he was the picture of professionalism and rarely missed playing time during the year.

Why **** with what works?

Mav 08-14-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9884471)
I think it's more that he was the picture of professionalism and rarely missed playing time during the year.

Why **** with what works?

He has great hair though!!!

Easy 6 08-14-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9884405)
I wouldn't be too opposed to see Charles standing on the sidelines for the rest of the preseason. Hell, it might even give us a look at the Gray, Davis, Droughn battle for that backup spot.

Not only am i not opposed to that, but thats exactly what should happen.

The other guys need the evaluation and work a lot more than he does, just keep him busy in camp to ward off the rust and he'll be fine.

Ace Gunner 08-14-2013 12:46 PM

we're likely to see Jamaal less and less as the exhibition season weeks go by and it will of course lend the opp to the other RB's. but I'm pretty sure Knile is the guy and if I were to pick, Gray would be the #3.

I was just saying Jamaal needs to play every pre season game with the ones. this is not just for Jamaal -- the blockers need to get in line with how Jamaal runs through holes etc.

that goal line TD last week was real important imo. it was important to Jon A/Fish and the OL as a whole -- instills confidence going into the season and it gives the OL a sense of timing & direction.

Easy 6 08-14-2013 12:49 PM

Thats a fair point about getting them all in tune with one another buzz, but they atleast should progressively limit his reps as you say.

We need to get these other jokers in lockstep, too.

GloryDayz 08-14-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9884382)

Yeah, but........your bubble leaves his knees and feet vulnerable... Ugh!

Might I recommend:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W0a9sZ-qqs...le-tree-88.jpg

Radar Chief 08-16-2013 03:06 PM

Just heard on 610 that Reid is sitting Jamal Charles for the rest of the preseason.
Assuming that’s true, can’t say I disagree.

vailpass 08-16-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9890807)
Just heard on 610 that Reid is sitting Jamal Charles for the rest of the preseason.
Assuming that’s true, can’t say I disagree.

Player should play but risking your stud makes no sense either.

Hammock Parties 08-16-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9890807)
Just heard on 610 that Reid is sitting Jamal Charles for the rest of the preseason.
Assuming that’s true, can’t say I disagree.

Haha.

Let the Alexcuses fly.

ToxSocks 08-16-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9890809)
Player should play but risking your ENTIRE OFFENSE makes no sense either.

fyp

Pablo 08-16-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9890809)
Player should play but risking your entire season makes no sense either.

FYP.

vailpass 08-16-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9890815)
fyp

Yeah, can't argue that.

Ace Gunner 08-16-2013 03:11 PM

he should be allowed to play, they just shouldn't be allowed to tackle him /roger goodell

boogblaster 08-16-2013 04:38 PM

long as he is ok .. let him rest till week 1 .. look at the other rb's .......

Chiefs Pantalones 08-16-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9890807)
Just heard on 610 that Reid is sitting Jamal Charles for the rest of the preseason.
Assuming that’s true, can’t say I disagree.

I totally agree with this. Even if he's 100% he should sit.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.