And here we go...

When Alex throws for 180 yards and a TD, it's a team game. ALL HE DOES IS WIN!

When Alex puts up that playoff performance, OMG THE DEFENSE IS ****ING HORRIBLE!

People want to spin it to fit their argument.

Right or wrong, Romo was given that money because he's shown time and time again he can put a team on his back and will them to win. He's the only reason that team is even in contention at the end of the season.

Right or wrong, Smith has shown he can do that precisely twice in his eight year career.

He doesn't deserve it, but I've come to grips with the idea of him getting it - as long as it doesn't hurt our chances to fill all the holes we have.

This is funny. Cowboys last 3 years 8-8.

He will and that's fine. He's earned it whatever the going rate is.


Some people can be mad about it, but the problem is, a team isn't going to find an immediate replacement at QB who would match that kind of production. Most teams usually play it safe and go with the " known quantity"

It's why guys like Romo, Cutler, Flacco and eventually Smith get big money despite a lot of fans objections.

I think the point is, Alex's game doesn't go into the dumpster if the running game takes a quarter or a half or even a full game off.

And whether people want to admit it or not, his scrambling is a huge asset to the offense.

Romo is going 8-8 with Murrary Dez Williams Austin and Witten. Give Alex Smith those weapons i bet he's not going 8-8 every year.

WTF, dude this is just weird.

Like I said a couple times in this thread, I am resigned to the fact he is the best we can expect to have.

Yea but Romo carried them to that .500 record on his back, up hill in the snow, both ways.

Good thing it's a team sport.

This.

Alex Smith picked up 27 first downs with his legs this year.

His legs = another McCluster!

Just stop it.

Hell yes it is. How many times did he move the chains with his legs? More than a few.

I saw at #11 jersey at Dick's Sporting Goods yesterday.

Smelled it's retail freshness.

Fondled it's soft folds.

It called to me.

:)

And without Romo, they'd be a 3-4 win team every year. He's had one season in the last 5 where the defense was in the top HALF of the league in scoring defense.

OH NOES! HE THROWS INT'S!

Yeah, that happens when you know your defense can't stop anyone and you have to score 30 points to even have a chance.

You should stick to Twitter updates, because your Football IQ is low.

Kinda like the Chiefs last 8 weeks.

Any QB could go 8-8 the last 3 years with the Cowboys.

And one guy went .500 in that scenario, the other went .250.

Do you think before you post?

Sounds like Andrew Luck lol

You really are dumb right?

Cowboys this year

Gmen 2
Eagles 2
Skins 2
Chiefs
Rams
Chargers
Denver
Oakland
Lions
Vikes
Saints
Bears ( Back up QB)
Packers(Back up QB)


Alex Smith with the Cowboys D would do better then 8-8

Chiefs to try and extend Alex Smith's deal
The National Football Post's Jason Cole reports the Chiefs will try and extend Alex Smith's contract this offseason.
Smith is entering the final year of his contract and is set to make $7.5 million. He has a 30-9-1 record the past three seasons and helped the Chiefs go from 2-14 in 2012 to 11-5 and a Wild Card playoff berth in 2013, Smith's first season with Kansas City. Smith also set new career-highs in passing yards (3,313) and passing touchdowns (23) this past season. Smith isn't going to command a lengthy deal or a ton of guaranteed money, but a three- or four-year extension at $13-15 million per year would make some sense.
Source: National Football Post Jan 8 - 3:17 PM

One guys has a cast of weapons and goes 8-8. Other guy has Charles and Bowe goes 11-4.

The Cowboys had the worst defense in NFL history this year. What the **** are you talking about?

It's not all that really matters. It's not cruel, it's just wrong.

Neither stats nor W/L can be looked at in a vacuum. If Peyton Manning throws an 80 yard touchdown in a blowout win, but the pass was a four yard screen that Demariyus took to the house... I'm not giving that pass more credit than Alex's bomb to Avery in a loss. I'm just not.

Having said that, Alex threw 23 TD in the regular season, but five of them came in one game. There were five games where he failed to throw a single touchdown, despite winning the game. I'm not giving him more credit in those wins than I am for Andrew Luck's 326 yd, 4 TD, 0 INT loss to the Bengals.

We have no choice. We only have a 2-3 year window and then its closed. Flowers/Hali/DJ/Charles will be on the decline. We cant draft and develop.
Smith is going to get $100 million contract. $52-55 million guaranteed. $17-$18 million per year.

It's not right, its way too much money but thats the going rate.

What we need to do is front load the contract like the Bears did with Cutler so you can get out of it after 3-4 years if Smith goes south.

the team around him will go south before Smith does.

After everything this season..


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Depends on how well Dorsey can draft.

This is why he gets paid.

It would be nice if a few of LAST year's draft picks also made a contribution.

By far our best draft pick has been Alex Smith.

Fisher
Kelce
Nico Johnson
Sanders Commings
Kush
Catapano

We really need at least two of those guys to pan out.

Without Romo they'd be a 3-4 win team?

You say this regardless of the QB who would be playing in place of him... what a weird statement.

The more I think about this, the more I think Alex will get hefty contract, but the actual guaranteed money will be toned down to the numbers I said before.

Feel free to give a list of available QB's that you think could win 5+ games without any help from the defense.

I'll wait.

Using wins and losses a a stat for or against a qb isn't really justifiable in the nfl. Smith was a better qb in the second half of the season, and we lost more games.

It's not usually ok to say on cp, because it was said for cassel, but maybe smith just does need a few more weapons. Obviously he's not ever gonna be manning, but I don't see any reason not to put him in the same class as Eli or flacco.

Maybe Djln and urban Meyer were right. Once he becomes ultimately confident and comfortable in a system, he'll take off. The more reps he got in Reid's offense, the better he got.

Hell, maybe it's a perfect marriage. Maybe he is e perfect fit for Reid's offense and Reid is he perfect coach for smith.

If that's the case, I don't see any reason to not sign him to a deal, while we continue to look for the elite guy. We've seen smith is good enough to win when it counts, and actually seems to be at his best when the chips are down. I'm pretty excited about him going forward at this point.

I think this is why people are against a long extension.

This roster has a ton of holes, and not a lot of money under the cap. Do you see them taking a QB in R1 or R2 any time soon if AS is extended?

I don't.

I'm not sure the cap situation we will be in by march. I'd say it will look different by then, but I agree.

I really couldn't answer that yet tho. Based in their history of drafting, probably not. But, that said, if smith is what I said he could be, I really wouldn't care short term. I guess it will depend on the contract. If it's prohibitive to us adding more talent, it gets muddy.

Something we have seen some of, but not a lot of is player development with this franchise. We do have holes, but you're always gonna have holes. We've gotta start developing more of these under the radar guys.

Absolutely this.

Seems like a lot of teams find solid players/stars with their late round picks and UDFA's. I can't remember the last late round/UDFA guy of ours that is on a level of a Burfict, Cruz, Welker, Romo, etc.

100 mil after one season? 50 mil guaranteed? No way they go all nuts like that after the huge Cassel gafoo. Clark learned his lesson the hard way.

To be fair, our last one just killed himself in the parking lot at arrowhead last year.

But yeah, agree. Hemmingway seems to be a good chance atleast.

Player development is huge for us now. I'm actually sort of excited/hopeful that we don't pigeon hole ourselves come draft time. We're in a good spot to do what successful teams do and draft good/great football players that fall in the draft for bs reasons.

I'm sorry, but Belcher was nowhere near the level of a Burfict or Victor Cruz.

Sad that he's the closest thing to a late round/UDFA success in recent memory.

Absolutely not, but thats probably the closest we've got.

I was a huge burfict fan, everyone gave me shit for that one.

I didn't.

Burfict was my guy, I cant believe he went undrafted.

Kevin Kolb
Mike Vick
Aaron Rodgers
Brian Brohm
Nick Foles

What do these players have in common?

Clay's mom?

Green uniforms?

None of them own dogs?

They all have a penis

Without much of a defense, i seriously doubt it.

Romo has a top 10 passer-rating all-time.

And their defense was the worst of all-time.

Keep reaching.

You forgot Knile Davis.

Catchy names?

Wives / girlfriends that give blowjobs on demand?

That is ****ing insane.

They are all gay?
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I left him off, because he's already been producing. I'd like two more to play at a high level.

Who is in favor of a long extension and giving Smith $100 million?

But, the problem is the market for signing QB's is only going up and up. We only have a small window. We have to give him the big bucks or let him walk.

are you in favor of not signing AS and let him walk next year?

Thats the market.
Romo/Cutler/Stafford all got $52-$55 million gauranteed.

If AS walks, he will get that from someone. We might not like it and it is insane but thats the market.

If they give Alex Smith that much money, they better not be wrong.

Alex Smith gives me more of a warm fuzzy than Mark Cassel ever did.

Reid knows QBs. I'm going to trust him on this after he just got finished scrutinizing his every move for an entire season.

This isn't Pioli II.

Yeah, at least I feel confident he's not going to metamorphosis into a turnover-spewing mountain of shit.

and stupid

That makes a little more sense. I still think 12 per is a better deal for both sides.

Whatever they do, please, Plaese, PLEASE make it an incentive-laden contract. IOW, he has to perform his ASS off...

He is just trolling in reverse now. LMAO

It's never that black and white.

If Alex was a woman I'd be wondering if she was always that good in bed.

I am just glad 'Fetal Position' isn't part of his game

Entire career says no. heh

Not going to happen. This is reality. There is no wish or want list.

The market dictates what an AS is worth.

You have to admit, though. 2/3 playoff games he has been dynamite.

He may have "it."

And his entire career said he wasn't going 27-7 this year, but he did.

Well we only got less than half a season of good stats. I would like to see a full season of it. I don't want to be the team that gives a giant contract just to the player take a step backwards. I absolutely HATE that everyone is going all in based on the playoff game too. His career states that game is far from the norm.

I'm not saying I don't like him, I do. But I don't think we should be throwing the bank at him just yet. I'm hoping he is the type of player that will put the team ahead of himself as far as the contract goes. Tall order, I know but he strikes me as someone that would do that.

In 16 games he generated 4,200 yards of offense and 28 TDs.

I don't know what more you expect in year 1 of this germinating offense.

Of course the Chiefs are going to extend Smith... it is what the Chiefs do.
Deberg- 4 years
Grbac- 4 years
Green- 6 years
Cassel- 4 years

The only exception that comes to mind is Montana, who retired after only 2 years (although I'm sure the Chiefs would have been happy to have him longer).

Additionally, it is the only logical thing the Chiefs can do after painting themselves into a corner with Smith. If the Chiefs had signed Campbell or some other free-agent QB last year, they would likely be in better position to draft a QB this year. Having made the playoffs and picking 23rd, the Chiefs will have no shot at the best QB prospects in the draft (and won't likely have interest, in any case). Barring injury, Smith will be here for the forseeable future.

Well, after watching how the team finished the season I'd say there are more pressing needs than QB. I say give him a deal.

I still think you are trolling.

Alex Smith is Steve Bono, right?

Give him a deal but not a Cutler deal. Personally, I think Alex will work WITH the chiefs on a cap friendly deal that allows them to fill their holes because he is a smart enough QB to know he needs those holes filled.