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Captain Obvious 02-04-2015 04:37 PM

We already knew this about the football program, but here are some stats to back it up:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/a...-its-recruits/

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-04-2015 06:14 PM

OP is updated. Due to confusion on Frazier's status, he is underlined in the spoiler. Also, the viperous bastard Brandon Martin has been added to the list of traitors. He will be camped.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-04-2015 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 11310289)
Mizzou is the pick.


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|Zach| 02-04-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11311088)
OP is updated. Due to confusion on Frazier's status, he is underlined in the spoiler. Also, the viperous bastard Brandon Martin has been added to the list of traitors. He will be camped.

And the way he did it. **** that guy.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-04-2015 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 11311095)
And the way he did it. **** that guy.

I knew he was taking late visits and he was almost certainly a sign and place because Prime Prep folded. What did he do?

And Google provides the answer.

That's the kind of bitchmade move I'd expect from someone who'd go to Deion's HS.

TribalElder 02-04-2015 06:32 PM

Was he the 6'7" receiver? What did he do.

I saw he de commits this morning. Bastard lol

He can go play for the grass eater.

Saul Good 02-04-2015 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11311119)
Was he the 6'7" receiver? What did he do.

I saw he de commits this morning. Bastard lol

He can go play for the grass eater.

No. That guy signed. This loser can go play for Leon Sandcastle Community College for a few years.

I've heard he hasn't actually signed anywhere yet...at least not as of a few hours ago.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-04-2015 06:55 PM

Why would any grown man get his feelings hurt over a high schooler's twitter post?

bowener 02-04-2015 08:21 PM

Can somebody give me some context on what happened with Martin?

TribalElder 02-04-2015 08:25 PM

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KChiefs1 02-04-2015 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11310669)


Part 2

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/o...s/201502040203

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-04-2015 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11311267)
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KChiefs1 02-04-2015 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11311267)
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Pipeline!

TribalElder 02-04-2015 10:34 PM

The audio on that video doesn't play it very loud but he picks up auburn first and says naw that's the wrong one lolz

KChiefs1 02-04-2015 11:09 PM

Mizzou's new Secondary Coach:

http://www.gotigersgo.com/sports/m-f...rs_888812.html

WhawhaWhat 02-05-2015 07:32 AM

Beckner on the left, Sheldon Richardson on the right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bkuwtu7CMAAayYH.jpg:large

kchero 02-05-2015 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11311681)
Beckner on the left, Sheldon Richardson on the right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bkuwtu7CMAAayYH.jpg:large

Sweet pic!

TribalElder 02-05-2015 08:07 AM

I wondered if the nfl guys come back for official visits sometimes

allen_kcCard 02-05-2015 09:41 AM

Damn....didn't realize how big that kid was until that pic. Put them both in uniform/pads/helmet and I probably would have chose Sheldon to be on the left.

KChiefs1 02-05-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allen_kcCard (Post 11311824)
Damn....didn't realize how big that kid was until that pic. Put them both in uniform/pads/helmet and I probably would have chose Sheldon to be on the left.


Beckner is NFL ready.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-05-2015 10:06 AM

Sheldon was listed as 6'4" on Rivals, and measured 6'2" at the Combine. Beckner looks like a legit 6'5". He's got some baby fat on him, but he plays like a guy that has freakish natural strength.

Barry Odom ran a 3-4 at Memphis. It would not surprise me that if in 2017 Becker was a 330 lb. 0 technique that carried his weight like he was 270, like a Haloti Ngata.

He's a good enough athlete that he could play LDE on running downs in a 4-3 stack, 5-tech in a 3-4, 0 technique in a 3-4, 3 technique in a Tampa 2 system (a 4-3 undertackle), or a 4-3 nose.

Saul Good 02-05-2015 10:13 AM

I feel like this class positions us well to play either front. We have several players on the roster now that can play DE/Rush Backer.

Beckner wants to play End rather than Tackle from what I've heard. I'd prefer to see him inside, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-05-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11311878)
I feel like this class positions us well to play either front. We have several players on the roster now that can play DE/Rush Backer.

Beckner wants to play End rather than Tackle from what I've heard. I'd prefer to see him inside, though.

He'd do fine at LDE, sliding inside on passing downs. Given the lankiness of Loud and Harris, having someone with Beckner's size on the edge would help significantly against the run.

duncan_idaho 02-05-2015 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11311866)
Sheldon was listed as 6'4" on Rivals, and measured 6'2" at the Combine. Beckner looks like a legit 6'5". He's got some baby fat on him, but he plays like a guy that has freakish natural strength.

Barry Odom ran a 3-4 at Memphis. It would not surprise me that if in 2017 Becker was a 330 lb. 0 technique that carried his weight like he was 270, like a Haloti Ngata.

He's a good enough athlete that he could play LDE on running downs in a 4-3 stack, 5-tech in a 3-4, 0 technique in a 3-4, 3 technique in a Tampa 2 system (a 4-3 undertackle), or a 4-3 nose.

I think Odom ran the 3-4 out of absolute necessity at Memphis, based on the talent he had this year. I could see him occasionally incorporating some looks from the 3-4 (zone blitzing, standing a guy up occasionally on obvious passing downs etc), but I'd rather see Missouri stay with the 4-3 as the base set.

For one thing, the defense's strong suit over the years has been developing 4-3 DEs. That's been by far the most consistent aspect on D. I'd be hesitant to jump away from that.

For another, recruiting for a 3-4 in college is difficult. You need 2-3 Josh Augusta types on the roster to really make it work at the P5 level. I'm not convinced Missouri can consistently land one per class, because of the in-state talent level (or lack thereof). They'd have to go out-of-state to find those kids, and that makes it tough.

And, finally, I just am not a big fan of the 3-4.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-05-2015 10:58 AM

I ****ing hate the 3-4.

KChiefs1 02-05-2015 10:59 AM

I'm hearing the 2016 class of Missouri HS kids is very weak. Glad Pinkel has made inroads into Georgia & Florida for talent.

Rausch 02-05-2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11311963)
I ****ing hate the 3-4.

In college it's weak as hell...

duncan_idaho 02-05-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11311964)
I'm hearing the 2016 class of Missouri HS kids is very weak. Glad Pinkel has made inroads into Georgia & Florida for talent.

It's also probably why they took such a large class this year, despite not having a ton of room early.

Rockhurst ATH AJ Taylor is the cream of the in-state crop next year, I think. Iowa, Kansas and Illinois all look thin in talent, too (at least suburban Illinois).

Hitting Georgia, Florida and the rest of the Southeast will be pretty critical next year. They're also planning to add at least two JUCOs in Greg Taylor and Nate Strong, so that helps a bit.

duncan_idaho 02-05-2015 12:33 PM

Here's my take on the recruiting class:

The Stars:

I think there are two players in this class with the potential to be really elite college players.

Spoiler!


The WRs

Help is needed in 2015, and this group offers a nice combination of size, speed, upside and Day 1 readiness.

Spoiler!


The RBs
Really deep group with a lot of versatility. Starting to see Mizzou recruit some bigger backs for the offense.

Spoiler!


DLINE ZOU

This is the team's bread and butter on D. I think this is the best group Missouri has recruited in a single class. Counting Beckner, Missouri signed 5 DL who ALL have the potential to be high-round NFL picks.
Spoiler!


LBs
Just two in this class, but I really like the size, athleticism and blend of readiness and long-term upside here.
Spoiler!


OL
Helping make sure Taylor Chappell is not the best option at LT in 2015. They took two JUCO Ts in this class, which means they're looking for some immediate help next year.
Spoiler!


The Athletes (can help in multiple areas)
Spoiler!

Saul Good 02-05-2015 12:41 PM

I'm as excited about Cuellar as just about anyone...at least for the 2015 season.

Pitt Gorilla 02-05-2015 02:21 PM

Nice recap, Duncan.

WhawhaWhat 02-05-2015 07:10 PM

Nothing on the Kicker?... way to half ass it.


JK, great job. Does Pinkel see this class graduate as the HC?

KChiefs1 02-05-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11312084)
Here's my take on the recruiting class:

The Stars:

I think there are two players in this class with the potential to be really elite college players.

Spoiler!


The WRs

Help is needed in 2015, and this group offers a nice combination of size, speed, upside and Day 1 readiness.

Spoiler!


The RBs
Really deep group with a lot of versatility. Starting to see Mizzou recruit some bigger backs for the offense.

Spoiler!


DLINE ZOU

This is the team's bread and butter on D. I think this is the best group Missouri has recruited in a single class. Counting Beckner, Missouri signed 5 DL who ALL have the potential to be high-round NFL picks.
Spoiler!


LBs
Just two in this class, but I really like the size, athleticism and blend of readiness and long-term upside here.
Spoiler!


OL
Helping make sure Taylor Chappell is not the best option at LT in 2015. They took two JUCO Ts in this class, which means they're looking for some immediate help next year.
Spoiler!


The Athletes (can help in multiple areas)
Spoiler!


It's stuff like this that I pay for...err wait.

Good stuff Duncan.

Pitt Gorilla 02-19-2015 03:59 PM

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colle...3466d6fd4.html

COLUMBIA, Mo. • The University of Missouri’s first two years in the Southeastern Conference proved to be lucrative for the school’s athletics department, to the tune of nearly $10 million in operating budget surplus.

That’s the good news for Mizzou. Even better, MU and member schools have yet to cash in on the expected windfall from the SEC Network.

Missouri athletics generated an operating surplus of $3,488,408 for the 2013-14 fiscal year, according to data submitted to the NCAA and obtained by the Post-Dispatch through an open records request. For the 2012-13 fiscal year, Mizzou’s first year collecting SEC revenue, athletics took in an operating surplus of $6,030,874.

The 2013-14 fiscal year, which included Mizzou’s first of two consecutive SEC East Division football titles, generated school-record athletics revenue of $83,718,587, an increase of 9.7 percent from 2013. Mizzou athletics spent $80,230,179 in 2013-14, a 14.2 percent increase from the previous year.

“That was obviously a great year for football and that drove a lot of things to exceed our expectations,” executive associate athletics director Tim Hickman said. “We’re still riding off the excitement of moving to the SEC. Donations were up and a lot of things hit right for this year.”

“Any school at our level or any level that can operate at a surplus is a huge benefit,” he added. “We take a lot of pride in that.”

In 2012, Missouri had to borrow from the university’s coffers while operating at a deficit of nearly $18 million during its first year in the SEC. That’s because the Big 12 withheld from Mizzou $12.41 million in league revenue as part of the school’s exit fee.

For the 2014 fiscal year, which ended last June 30, Missouri’s largest source of revenue came from ticket sales, $24,235,754, an increase of 7.5 percent from the previous year. The football team led the way with $17,554,536 in ticket sales revenue for the 2013 season, a 17.2 percent jump despite Memorial Stadium’s decreased capacity caused by renovations on the east side.

MU took in $21,836,870 from SEC and NCAA distribution, which includes conference bowl revenue for the 2013 season and conference revenue from the SEC’s TV package. This figure is expected to rise significantly this year when SEC Network revenue is distributed to league members. Mizzou didn’t budget for an increase in TV revenue, but Hickman said MU’s SEC Network payout could be between $2-5 million. Also, Mizzou budgeted for a $2.5 million increase in bowl revenue based on the new College Football Playoff and SEC bowl structure, Hickman said.

Revenue from donor contributions increased 26.6 percent to $20,113,654, partly the result, Hickman said, of several major gifts donated around the time Mizzou joined the SEC that are spread out over eight to 10 years.

Missouri’s athletics revenue for 2012-13 ranked 11th among the 13 public schools in the SEC and 35th nationally, according to USA Today’s annual survey. MU ranked ahead of Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Vanderbilt, a private school, is not required to submit financial data. MU ranked 12th in athletics expenses, ahead of only Mississippi State.

Hickman expects Missouri to rank in the same range this year.

“The SEC Network is great and will give us an infusion of capital,” he said. “But it’s doing that for everybody (in the league.) All boats have risen there with the tide. For us to close the gap we’ll have to do it other ways.”

That starts with expanding the Tigers Scholarship Fund. Missouri has around 8,000 current members who donate money that goes toward athlete scholarships, facility projects and the department’s endowment.

“That’s the thing that sticks out to us compared to the rest of the league,” Hickman said. “We’re not last, but we’re probably in the bottom quartile. You see some schools, Florida, for example, with 30,000 members in their annual fund.

“A lot of people think, ‘If I can’t give you $1,000 or $5,000 it’s not worth it.’ No, that’s not the case. If you look at our average gift per member it’s higher than most because a lot of people think that. I think we want to re-educate a lot of our folks, because you can be a member at $50. And if we can get a couple thousand people doing that, that’s a big deal.”

As for expenses, Mizzou spent the most on coaches’ salaries ($16,211,134) and support staff and administration salaries ($15,055,996), increases of 12.5 and 5.4 percent, respectively. Team travel expenses climbed 40.9 percent to $6,647,984. Hickman cited Mizzou’s trip to Atlanta for the 2013 SEC football championship game and the 2014 Cotton Bowl as major factors for the increase. Hickman expects that figure to rise with MU’s 2014-15 expenses after another SEC football championship game trip and the 2015 Citrus Bowl in Orlando, Fla., plus general increases in travel costs for all MU teams.

Mizzou also spent a bigger chunk on facilities maintenance, a 59.4 percent jump to $11,406,559, most of which was spent on building an SEC Network production room at Mizzou Arena.

Also, MU athletics received $1,515,000 from the university as direct institutional support but also gave back $2,179,583 to the school.

KChiefs1 02-19-2015 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11336638)
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colle...3466d6fd4.html



COLUMBIA, Mo. • The University of Missouri’s first two years in the Southeastern Conference proved to be lucrative for the school’s athletics department, to the tune of nearly $10 million in operating budget surplus.



That’s the good news for Mizzou. Even better, MU and member schools have yet to cash in on the expected windfall from the SEC Network.



Missouri athletics generated an operating surplus of $3,488,408 for the 2013-14 fiscal year, according to data submitted to the NCAA and obtained by the Post-Dispatch through an open records request. For the 2012-13 fiscal year, Mizzou’s first year collecting SEC revenue, athletics took in an operating surplus of $6,030,874.



The 2013-14 fiscal year, which included Mizzou’s first of two consecutive SEC East Division football titles, generated school-record athletics revenue of $83,718,587, an increase of 9.7 percent from 2013. Mizzou athletics spent $80,230,179 in 2013-14, a 14.2 percent increase from the previous year.



“That was obviously a great year for football and that drove a lot of things to exceed our expectations,” executive associate athletics director Tim Hickman said. “We’re still riding off the excitement of moving to the SEC. Donations were up and a lot of things hit right for this year.”



“Any school at our level or any level that can operate at a surplus is a huge benefit,” he added. “We take a lot of pride in that.”



In 2012, Missouri had to borrow from the university’s coffers while operating at a deficit of nearly $18 million during its first year in the SEC. That’s because the Big 12 withheld from Mizzou $12.41 million in league revenue as part of the school’s exit fee.



For the 2014 fiscal year, which ended last June 30, Missouri’s largest source of revenue came from ticket sales, $24,235,754, an increase of 7.5 percent from the previous year. The football team led the way with $17,554,536 in ticket sales revenue for the 2013 season, a 17.2 percent jump despite Memorial Stadium’s decreased capacity caused by renovations on the east side.



MU took in $21,836,870 from SEC and NCAA distribution, which includes conference bowl revenue for the 2013 season and conference revenue from the SEC’s TV package. This figure is expected to rise significantly this year when SEC Network revenue is distributed to league members. Mizzou didn’t budget for an increase in TV revenue, but Hickman said MU’s SEC Network payout could be between $2-5 million. Also, Mizzou budgeted for a $2.5 million increase in bowl revenue based on the new College Football Playoff and SEC bowl structure, Hickman said.



Revenue from donor contributions increased 26.6 percent to $20,113,654, partly the result, Hickman said, of several major gifts donated around the time Mizzou joined the SEC that are spread out over eight to 10 years.



Missouri’s athletics revenue for 2012-13 ranked 11th among the 13 public schools in the SEC and 35th nationally, according to USA Today’s annual survey. MU ranked ahead of Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Vanderbilt, a private school, is not required to submit financial data. MU ranked 12th in athletics expenses, ahead of only Mississippi State.



Hickman expects Missouri to rank in the same range this year.



“The SEC Network is great and will give us an infusion of capital,” he said. “But it’s doing that for everybody (in the league.) All boats have risen there with the tide. For us to close the gap we’ll have to do it other ways.”



That starts with expanding the Tigers Scholarship Fund. Missouri has around 8,000 current members who donate money that goes toward athlete scholarships, facility projects and the department’s endowment.



“That’s the thing that sticks out to us compared to the rest of the league,” Hickman said. “We’re not last, but we’re probably in the bottom quartile. You see some schools, Florida, for example, with 30,000 members in their annual fund.



“A lot of people think, ‘If I can’t give you $1,000 or $5,000 it’s not worth it.’ No, that’s not the case. If you look at our average gift per member it’s higher than most because a lot of people think that. I think we want to re-educate a lot of our folks, because you can be a member at $50. And if we can get a couple thousand people doing that, that’s a big deal.”



As for expenses, Mizzou spent the most on coaches’ salaries ($16,211,134) and support staff and administration salaries ($15,055,996), increases of 12.5 and 5.4 percent, respectively. Team travel expenses climbed 40.9 percent to $6,647,984. Hickman cited Mizzou’s trip to Atlanta for the 2013 SEC football championship game and the 2014 Cotton Bowl as major factors for the increase. Hickman expects that figure to rise with MU’s 2014-15 expenses after another SEC football championship game trip and the 2015 Citrus Bowl in Orlando, Fla., plus general increases in travel costs for all MU teams.



Mizzou also spent a bigger chunk on facilities maintenance, a 59.4 percent jump to $11,406,559, most of which was spent on building an SEC Network production room at Mizzou Arena.



Also, MU athletics received $1,515,000 from the university as direct institutional support but also gave back $2,179,583 to the school.


I guess we shouldn't let the twins know about this huh?

Pitt Gorilla 02-20-2015 11:39 AM

Mitch Morse (yes, that Mitch Morse) is having a solid combine so far.

KChiefs1 02-20-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11338203)
Mitch Morse (yes, that Mitch Morse) is having a solid combine so far.


Good for him.

KChiefs1 02-22-2015 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11338203)
Mitch Morse (yes, that Mitch Morse) is having a solid combine so far.

It was time to run on Friday for participating offensive linemen and tight ends and several came away with impressive performances. Quarterbacks and running backs will complete individual on-field workouts on Saturday, defensive linemen and linebackers on Sunday and defensive backs on Monday.

Mizzou’s Mitch Morse continues to impress in Indy after posting an above average 5.14 official time in the 40-yard dash. He recorded the second-most bench press reps (36) on Thursday.

Here are Friday’s SEC notables and individual drill leaders for OL and TE:

STRENGTH (REPS OF 225)
Erick Flowers (Miami OL): 37, most reps of day
Mitch Morse (Mizzou OL): 36
Corey Robinson (South Carolina OL): 28
A.J. Cann (South Carolina OL): 26
D.J. Humphries (Florida OL): 26
Jarvis Harrison (Texas A&M OL): 26
Cedric Ogbuehi (Texas A&M OL): 23
Reese Dismukes (Auburn OL): 23
La’el Collins (LSU OL): 21
Chaz Green (Florida OL): 21
Austin Shepherd (Alabama OL): 17
A.J. Derby (Arkansas TE): 15
Blake Bell (Oklahoma TE): 14, fewest reps of day
Cameron Clear (Texas A&M TE): DNP
Max Garcia (Florida OL): DNP
Arie Kouandjio (Alabama OL): DNP
Darrian Miller (Kentucky OL): DNP
Rory Anderson (South Carolina TE) DNP


SPEED (40-YARD DASH, OFFICIAL)
Mycole Pruitt (Southern Illinois TE): 4.58, fastest time of day
Cameron Clear (Texas A&M TE): 4.98
La’El Collins (LSU OL): 5.12
D.J. Humphries (Florida OL): 5.12
Mitch Morse (Mizzou OL): 5.14
Chaz Green (Florida OL): 5.16
Jarvis Harrison (Texas A&M OL): 5.19
Reese Dismukes (Auburn OL): 5.31
Austin Shepherd (Alabama OL): 5.39
Darrian Miller (Kentucky OL): 5.51
Adam Shead (Oklahoma OL): 5.74, slowest time of day
Max Garcia (Florida OL): DNP
Arie Kouandjio (Alabama OL): DNP
Corey Robinson (South Carolina OL): DNP
Rory Anderson (South Carolina TE): DNP
A.J. Derby (Arkansas TE): DNP

Saul Good 02-22-2015 03:42 PM

Josh Moore tweeted he's not going to have to attend JUCO. Hope he's right.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2015 03:45 PM

That's pretty awesome if true. He has the length and frame to be another dominant MU DE

Sully 02-25-2015 12:50 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New at STLtoday: Barry Odom eager to put stamp on Mizzou defense <a href="http://t.co/29xYrjJhfA">http://t.co/29xYrjJhfA</a></p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/570643787292250113">February 25, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Pretty interesting article linked here.

What I like: Multiple, multiple, multiple! I'll be so glad not to see us sit in a 2 shell no matter what (except for that oh so tricky walk to backer up at the last second)!

What worries me: It sounds like he might transition to 3-4. I am a HUGE fan of the 3-4 in the NFL, but I'm not as big of a fan in college/HS (If you're gonna go 3-man front, go 3-3). He doesn't say it, but I get the feeling that's what he'd like to do.

KChiefs1 02-27-2015 06:43 PM

Bleacher Report:

It's the team that Vegas doesn't know what to do with. Missouri isn't favored to win in nearly every game it plays but somehow has pulled off top recruits and 23 wins over the last two seasons, a number eclipsed only by Alabama. It simply keeps finding a way to defy the odds.

Georgia fans are beside themselves after seeing this Tiger team from the north essentially dance into the SEC and have incredible success. Head coach Gary Pinkel has excelled at the most important part of his job—winning—and looked really good while doing so.

Recruiting has been the name of the game. In three years, Missouri has landed commitments from the nation’s No. 1 overall recruit in 2013 by Rivals in Dorial Green-Beckham and the No. 2 overall player in 2015 by ESPN in Terry Beckner Jr. In addition, it's entirely possible that Pinkel has had classes that may have previously been overlooked.

Reinforcing this, a new re-ranking of the 2012 signing class by Andy Staples of Sports Illustrated, Mizzou skyrocketed from the No. 31 ranked class (as originally ranked by Rivals) to No. 5 in the country. It shows that everything Pinkel and his staff are doing is an absolute model of how to win. Being "MizzouMade" is beginning to stand out.

But how do you measure the power of a program? A year of success can excite fans and alumni but isn't the measuring stick of greatness. It's consistently pulling off the things that are related to your job, which Pinkel might as well have a Ph.D. in.

Pinkel was shown a solo award for his talent in December when—a year after becoming the school's all-time winningest coach—he was named SEC Coach of the Year. Having won this award previously in the Big 12 Conference, it puts Pinkel in a rare category of coaches who have won the award in two different leagues during their peak in college football.

The awards are products of what Pinkel’s teams have shown on the field in those seasons. In fact, since his previous award, Pinkel’s Tigers squads have won an impressive 75 games, making them a top-five team in that category.

Missouri’s success isn’t limited to being on the field. They stand as the leader in academics in the SEC and are among the best in the nation. In 2013, Pinkel received a letter from NCAA President Mark Emmert, acknowledging the University’s success as a whole. More recently, last year Missouri was tied for the No. 1 spot in the SEC with relation to football academic-progress-rate scores.

But to see the total success of the program, simply take a look to the NFL. Mizzou players are going into the NFL in numbers and are having such success. That is like any group of trained professionals that reflects strongly on their training institution.

A total of 20 former Missouri players are currently on NFL rosters. Much was being made of the Tigers going into last season being “down” at wide receiver. When everything is said and done following the 2015 NFL draft and free-agency pickups, this “down” bunch may have three names in Bud Sasser, Jimmie Hunt and Darius White all playing on Sundays.

Missouri hasn't been able to beat Alabama or Auburn in the title games they've played, but it certainly competed well in both games. With all criteria on its resume, the change in culture and the lockdown of local recruiting, it's time that we start calling Missouri what it has shown to be by the fruits of its labor: a national team.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-27-2015 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11346931)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New at STLtoday: Barry Odom eager to put stamp on Mizzou defense <a href="http://t.co/29xYrjJhfA">http://t.co/29xYrjJhfA</a></p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/570643787292250113">February 25, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Pretty interesting article linked here.

What I like: Multiple, multiple, multiple! I'll be so glad not to see us sit in a 2 shell no matter what (except for that oh so tricky walk to backer up at the last second)!

What worries me: It sounds like he might transition to 3-4. I am a HUGE fan of the 3-4 in the NFL, but I'm not as big of a fan in college/HS (If you're gonna go 3-man front, go 3-3). He doesn't say it, but I get the feeling that's what he'd like to do.

If he tries to take a team that churns out 4-3 pros like Mizzou and turns them into a 3-4 team he should have his head caved in with a splitting maul.

I ****ing hate the 3-4.

Saul Good 02-27-2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11351635)
If he tries to take a team that churns out 4-3 pros like Mizzou and turns them into a 3-4 team he should have his head caved in with a splitting maul.

I ****ing hate the 3-4.

He's been pretty clear that it's going to be a base 4-3 with some 3-4 packages sprinkled in.

Bowser 02-27-2015 08:55 PM

I'm ok with them running a 3-4 out there if it's 3rd and 7 or longer. Show them some zone blitz schemes, or just put your fastest linebackers/ends out there and tell them to sic the QB...

duncan_idaho 03-01-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11351635)
If he tries to take a team that churns out 4-3 pros like Mizzou and turns them into a 3-4 team he should have his head caved in with a splitting maul.

I ****ing hate the 3-4.

I don't get that impression.

He said several times that they were sticking with the 4-3 as the base defense. I'm fine with being a little more flexible in thought at the position, but going to the 3-4 as Mizzou's base would be an epic disaster. So tough to recruit to in college, especially at Missouri.

He also has said multiple times they only ran 3-4 at Memphis because of the personnel he inherited.

I suspect we might see some more creative sets worked in on obvious passing downs IF the DE production is not as high as it has been, so a little flexibility is good.

duncan_idaho 03-01-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11351798)
I'm ok with them running a 3-4 out there if it's 3rd and 7 or longer. Show them some zone blitz schemes, or just put your fastest linebackers/ends out there and tell them to sic the QB...

That's only really necessary when the DE production is lesser than it has been the past two years.

If Missouri has two great pass rushing DEs, it really has no reason to go to a different scheme with any consistency on third and long.

jjchieffan 03-01-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11351624)
Bleacher Report:

It's the team that Vegas doesn't know what to do with. Missouri isn't favored to win in nearly every game it plays but somehow has pulled off top recruits and 23 wins over the last two seasons, a number eclipsed only by Alabama. It simply keeps finding a way to defy the odds.

Georgia fans are beside themselves after seeing this Tiger team from the north essentially dance into the SEC and have incredible success. Head coach Gary Pinkel has excelled at the most important part of his job—winning—and looked really good while doing so.

Recruiting has been the name of the game. In three years, Missouri has landed commitments from the nation’s No. 1 overall recruit in 2013 by Rivals in Dorial Green-Beckham and the No. 2 overall player in 2015 by ESPN in Terry Beckner Jr. In addition, it's entirely possible that Pinkel has had classes that may have previously been overlooked.

Reinforcing this, a new re-ranking of the 2012 signing class by Andy Staples of Sports Illustrated, Mizzou skyrocketed from the No. 31 ranked class (as originally ranked by Rivals) to No. 5 in the country. It shows that everything Pinkel and his staff are doing is an absolute model of how to win. Being "MizzouMade" is beginning to stand out.

But how do you measure the power of a program? A year of success can excite fans and alumni but isn't the measuring stick of greatness. It's consistently pulling off the things that are related to your job, which Pinkel might as well have a Ph.D. in.

Pinkel was shown a solo award for his talent in December when—a year after becoming the school's all-time winningest coach—he was named SEC Coach of the Year. Having won this award previously in the Big 12 Conference, it puts Pinkel in a rare category of coaches who have won the award in two different leagues during their peak in college football.

The awards are products of what Pinkel’s teams have shown on the field in those seasons. In fact, since his previous award, Pinkel’s Tigers squads have won an impressive 75 games, making them a top-five team in that category.

Missouri’s success isn’t limited to being on the field. They stand as the leader in academics in the SEC and are among the best in the nation. In 2013, Pinkel received a letter from NCAA President Mark Emmert, acknowledging the University’s success as a whole. More recently, last year Missouri was tied for the No. 1 spot in the SEC with relation to football academic-progress-rate scores.

But to see the total success of the program, simply take a look to the NFL. Mizzou players are going into the NFL in numbers and are having such success. That is like any group of trained professionals that reflects strongly on their training institution.

A total of 20 former Missouri players are currently on NFL rosters. Much was being made of the Tigers going into last season being “down” at wide receiver. When everything is said and done following the 2015 NFL draft and free-agency pickups, this “down” bunch may have three names in Bud Sasser, Jimmie Hunt and Darius White all playing on Sundays.

Missouri hasn't been able to beat Alabama or Auburn in the title games they've played, but it certainly competed well in both games. With all criteria on its resume, the change in culture and the lockdown of local recruiting, it's time that we start calling Missouri what it has shown to be by the fruits of its labor: a national team.

Fire Pinkel!! /Hamas

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-01-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 11354734)
Fire Pinkel!! /Hamas

Do not ever, ever lose to Indiana.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-10-2015 04:40 PM

So, Tavon Ross has a torn ACL, Cortland Browning had a LisFranc injury in bowl practice, Brad McNulty had labrum surgery, and Steward still has no timetable for return from his hip injury.

Pitt Gorilla 03-11-2015 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11374065)
So, Tavon Ross has a torn ACL, Cortland Browning had a LisFranc injury in bowl practice, Brad McNulty had labrum surgery, and Steward still has no timetable for return from his hip injury.

That's horrible on Ross. Would have loved to see him get time at safety this year.

WhawhaWhat 03-11-2015 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 11354734)
Bleacher Report:

Missouri hasn't been able to beat Alabama or Auburn in the title games they've played, but it certainly competed well in both games.


Well... maybe in the Auburn game.

kepp 03-11-2015 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11375302)
Well... maybe in the Auburn game.

I was pretty surprised when I read that. Our only offense in the Alabama game was Mauk running for his life and throwing hail marys to Hunt.

duncan_idaho 03-11-2015 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11374065)
So, Tavon Ross has a torn ACL, Cortland Browning had a LisFranc injury in bowl practice, Brad McNulty had labrum surgery, and Steward still has no timetable for return from his hip injury.

It was reported on PM that Steward was going to be held out of spring ball but they planned to have him resume football activities before Fall camp.

So there's that at least...

Ross news is crushing. I had very high hopes for him.

Discuss Thrower 03-11-2015 11:00 AM

The Tigers are hosting Missouri State in 2017, but MU is still too chicken to invite the Bears to Mizzou Arena. Bitches.

WhawhaWhat 03-11-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11375854)
The Tigers are hosting Missouri State in 2017, but MU is still too chicken to invite the Bears to Mizzou Arena. Bitches.

Have the Bears invited Mizzou to their place?

duncan_idaho 03-11-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11375854)
The Tigers are hosting Missouri State in 2017, but MU is still too chicken to invite the Bears to Mizzou Arena. Bitches.

That's not accurate.

Mizzou has a standing offer to any in-state school to play them at Mizzou Arena. This includes SLU, SMS, SEMO, UMKC, Truman (exhibition), MO Western (exhibition).

Missouri doesn't play the Bears because the AD in Springfield thinks it deserves a home-and-home series with Mizzou.

If the Bears would agree to play one-shot games in Columbia, they could easily play the Tigers. As long as they demand a home game in return, it won't get scheduled.

SLU is in the same boat.

Discuss Thrower 03-11-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11375917)
That's not accurate.

Mizzou has a standing offer to any in-state school to play them at Mizzou Arena. This includes SLU, SMS, SEMO, UMKC, Truman (exhibition), MO Western (exhibition).

Missouri doesn't play the Bears because the AD in Springfield thinks it deserves a home-and-home series with Mizzou.

If the Bears would agree to play one-shot games in Columbia, they could easily play the Tigers. As long as they demand a home game in return, it won't get scheduled.

SLU is in the same boat.

Mizzou has PTSD from Fontleroy posterizing Albert White and you know it.

duncan_idaho 03-11-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11375958)
Mizzou has PTSD from Fontleroy posterizing Albert White and you know it.

Springfield has little brother syndrome, and you know it.

This game would have continued to happen if the Bears weren't insisting on a return game. In-state, P5 schools just don't play home-and-home series with in-state mid-majors unless those schools are very established and consistent in basketball. (Iowa one of the few exceptions due to state law)

Pitt Gorilla 03-11-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11376012)
Springfield has little brother syndrome, and you know it.

This game would have continued to happen if the Bears weren't insisting on a return game. In-state, P5 schools just don't play home-and-home series with in-state mid-majors unless those schools are very established and consistent in basketball. (Iowa one of the few exceptions due to state law)

Iowa doesn't do it now either. After UNI began to regularly beat the others, the format changed to a neutral site tournament. Of course, UNI housed Iowa in Des Moines this year.

WhawhaWhat 03-19-2015 11:20 AM

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kcchiefsus 03-26-2015 09:35 AM

Not panicking at all, but kind of curious why Missouri along with Vanderbilt are the only two teams to not have a football commit yet. There are a few programs with 10 or more commits already.

Again, not panicking. I'm just curious why we seem to move at such a slow pace on the recruiting front. We only had 2 recruits at this point last year, so it seems like it's the way it usually is under Pinkel.

Any idea what size of class we're looking at this year? I'm guessing it will be a small class after some big classes the past few years. I hope we can have another strong class again after last years group we brought in. The last time we had such a highly ranked class was 2010 and it seems like we were unable to sustain the success on the recruiting trail for two years in a row.
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WhawhaWhat 03-26-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 11404312)
Not panicking at all, but kind of curious why Missouri along with Vanderbilt are the only two teams to not have a football commit yet. There are a few programs with 10 or more commits already.

Again, not panicking. I'm just curious why we seem to move at such a slow pace on the recruiting front. We only had 2 recruits at this point last year, so it seems like it's the way it usually is under Pinkel.

Any idea what size of class we're looking at this year? I'm guessing it will be a small class after some big classes the past few years. I hope we can have another strong class again after last years group we brought in. The last time we had such a highly ranked class was 2010 and it seems like we were unable to sustain the success on the recruiting trail for two years in a row.
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Signing day is February 3, 2016. There's still time.

kcchiefsus 03-26-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11404317)
Signing day is February 3, 2016. There's still time.

Again, I realize that. And as I already mentioned, I'm not panicking or saying the sky is falling. We hardly had any recruits at this point last year and we ended up with possibly our best class ever.

My point is to just inquire to why it is this way, when nearly every other team has already hit the recruiting trail hard and has a number of recruits.

duncan_idaho 03-26-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 11404312)
Not panicking at all, but kind of curious why Missouri along with Vanderbilt are the only two teams to not have a football commit yet. There are a few programs with 10 or more commits already.

Again, not panicking. I'm just curious why we seem to move at such a slow pace on the recruiting front. We only had 2 recruits at this point last year, so it seems like it's the way it usually is under Pinkel.

Any idea what size of class we're looking at this year? I'm guessing it will be a small class after some big classes the past few years. I hope we can have another strong class again after last years group we brought in. The last time we had such a highly ranked class was 2010 and it seems like we were unable to sustain the success on the recruiting trail for two years in a row.
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They're probably taking a small class AND the in-state crop is pretty weak (one of the reasons they took a big class last year).

They're being aggressive out-of-state, but those typically are not going to be early commits.

KChiefs1 04-16-2015 11:21 AM

****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...to-get-its-due

Quote:

Adam Rittenberg, College Football
What does it take to get noticed in today's college football? Team M would like an answer.

Oh, you don't know Team M? Here's an introduction: It has 76 wins in the past eight seasons. During that span, it owns five division titles, three in one Power 5 conference and two in another. It has five bowl wins, two in the Cotton, and five 10-win seasons. Impressed yet?

OK, you want NFL draft picks? How about 17 selections in the past six drafts? Team M also ranks in the top five nationally in most first-round picks since 2009 (with six). It will add a seventh, defensive end Shane Ray, on April 30 in Chicago.

Normally, such accolades would make Team M's head coach a national celebrity and put his assistants at the top of wish lists for top jobs. Not at Missouri, the most overlooked successful program in major college football.

Most college football fans have heard the name Gary Pinkel. But how many current or former Pinkel assistants can they name? Could they instantly identify this logo or this stadium? In a sport where seemingly every Power 5 team is magnified, Missouri's success under Pinkel often gets swept aside.

"The world is enamored with the beauty of certain programs," said Dave Steckel, who spent the past 14 seasons on Pinkel's staff at Missouri before becoming Missouri State's head coach in December. "If you go into any bar across the country and you say, 'What's the most successful school that starts with an M, everybody’s going to say Michigan.' Well, they’re nowhere. Now [Jim] Harbaugh’s a great guy. He’s probably going to do a phenomenal job there.

"But the M-word's Missouri."

The M-word, despite all those W's, remains a mystery to many. The team that represents the Show-Me State might have one of the least showy coaching staffs in the country. Pinkel and his assistants, several of whom have been with him for more than a decade, quietly go about winning games and producing NFL talent.

They're not credit seekers or career climbers. They're unquestionably under the radar, but given the results, they don't mind it there.

"We all know the more you win, the more credit you get," Pinkel said. "That's part of the deal when you’re in a program that’s now earning more respect. [The lack of attention] was frustrating sometimes. It happens. The last two years have been definitely different being in this league.

"We're proud of our numbers and we're starting to get some of the recognition."

Missouri's quiet success is rooted in coaching continuity, a hallmark of Pinkel's career. While coaching at Toledo, he turned down opportunities to interview elsewhere so his three children could graduate from the same high school (they did). When he took the Missouri job in November 2000, he brought most of his staff from Toledo.

Three assistants who made the move with Pinkel from Toledo -- Cornell Ford, Brian Jones, Craig Kuligowski -- are still at Missouri. Quarterbacks coach Andy Hill was on the previous Missouri staff and has remained throughout Pinkel's tenure. Defensive coordinator Barry Odom was on Pinkel's staff from 2003-11, left to become Memphis' defensive coordinator, and then returned in December to replace Steckel.

"We've been very fortunate to have a lot of loyal guys," Pinkel said. "There's certainly a sense when you go to the [American Football Coaches Association] convention and you see all the guys unemployed, walking around, it gives you a sense of security here in a very insecure business."

Pinkel credits the staff stability for shepherding Missouri from the Big 12 to the SEC. No Power 5 team during realignment madness has had a smoother transition than the Tigers, who have won consecutive SEC East Division titles.

"I wouldn't put up with me for this many years," Pinkel joked, "so I don’t know why they stuck around."

There are several reasons. Pinkel, a longtime Don James assistant, uses James' management style. Assistants know where they stand with Pinkel. He demands hard work but encourages the staff to be with their families at night. He doesn't conduct six- or 12-month evaluations, preferring to address issues immediately.

Grudges aren't held.

"You know exactly what to expect," Odom said. "You know the standards that he wants the program to live by and at the end of the day, you look around the country, you want an opportunity to go in to work every day and really enjoy it and have the ability to be your best. He fills out the checklist on all those things."

Adam Rittenberg, College Football
What does it take to get noticed in today's college football? Team M would like an answer.

Oh, you don't know Team M? Here's an introduction: It has 76 wins in the past eight seasons. During that span, it owns five division titles, three in one Power 5 conference and two in another. It has five bowl wins, two in the Cotton, and five 10-win seasons. Impressed yet?

OK, you want NFL draft picks? How about 17 selections in the past six drafts? Team M also ranks in the top five nationally in most first-round picks since 2009 (with six). It will add a seventh, defensive end Shane Ray, on April 30 in Chicago.

Normally, such accolades would make Team M's head coach a national celebrity and put his assistants at the top of wish lists for top jobs. Not at Missouri, the most overlooked successful program in major college football.

Most college football fans have heard the name Gary Pinkel. But how many current or former Pinkel assistants can they name? Could they instantly identify this logo or this stadium? In a sport where seemingly every Power 5 team is magnified, Missouri's success under Pinkel often gets swept aside.

NAMES YOU SHOULD KNOW
Here are five other successful, under-the radar coaching staffs:
Georgia Tech: Like Missouri, Georgia Tech claims division titles (four ACC Coastal in seven seasons) with little national attention, as Paul Johnson and a staff including two former FBS head coaches consistently gets it done.
Kansas State: Bill Snyder is a legend, but some of his longtime assistants like Dana Dimel, Mo Latimore and Del Miller have been instrumental in one of college football's most extreme makeovers.
Minnesota: A loyal and talented staff kept the program on track during Jerry Kill's health issues, and Minnesota is now a threat in the Big Ten West Division.
Navy: Ken Niumatalolo doesn't get nearly enough credit for helping Navy to eight or more wins in six of his seven seasons, and a savvy staff that includes coordinators Ivin Jasper and Buddy Green has been a huge help.
UCF: The Knights have an instantly recognizable head coach in George O'Leary, but a strong staff including rising star Brent Key has helped UCF to 33 wins in the past three seasons, including a Fiesta Bowl championship.
-- Adam Rittenberg
"The world is enamored with the beauty of certain programs," said Dave Steckel, who spent the past 14 seasons on Pinkel's staff at Missouri before becoming Missouri State's head coach in December. "If you go into any bar across the country and you say, 'What's the most successful school that starts with an M, everybody’s going to say Michigan.' Well, they’re nowhere. Now [Jim] Harbaugh’s a great guy. He’s probably going to do a phenomenal job there.

"But the M-word's Missouri."

The M-word, despite all those W's, remains a mystery to many. The team that represents the Show-Me State might have one of the least showy coaching staffs in the country. Pinkel and his assistants, several of whom have been with him for more than a decade, quietly go about winning games and producing NFL talent.

They're not credit seekers or career climbers. They're unquestionably under the radar, but given the results, they don't mind it there.

"We all know the more you win, the more credit you get," Pinkel said. "That's part of the deal when you’re in a program that’s now earning more respect. [The lack of attention] was frustrating sometimes. It happens. The last two years have been definitely different being in this league.

"We're proud of our numbers and we're starting to get some of the recognition."

Missouri's quiet success is rooted in coaching continuity, a hallmark of Pinkel's career. While coaching at Toledo, he turned down opportunities to interview elsewhere so his three children could graduate from the same high school (they did). When he took the Missouri job in November 2000, he brought most of his staff from Toledo.

Three assistants who made the move with Pinkel from Toledo -- Cornell Ford, Brian Jones, Craig Kuligowski -- are still at Missouri. Quarterbacks coach Andy Hill was on the previous Missouri staff and has remained throughout Pinkel's tenure. Defensive coordinator Barry Odom was on Pinkel's staff from 2003-11, left to become Memphis' defensive coordinator, and then returned in December to replace Steckel.

"We've been very fortunate to have a lot of loyal guys," Pinkel said. "There's certainly a sense when you go to the [American Football Coaches Association] convention and you see all the guys unemployed, walking around, it gives you a sense of security here in a very insecure business."

Pinkel credits the staff stability for shepherding Missouri from the Big 12 to the SEC. No Power 5 team during realignment madness has had a smoother transition than the Tigers, who have won consecutive SEC East Division titles.

"I wouldn't put up with me for this many years," Pinkel joked, "so I don’t know why they stuck around."

There are several reasons. Pinkel, a longtime Don James assistant, uses James' management style. Assistants know where they stand with Pinkel. He demands hard work but encourages the staff to be with their families at night. He doesn't conduct six- or 12-month evaluations, preferring to address issues immediately.

Grudges aren't held.

"You know exactly what to expect," Odom said. "You know the standards that he wants the program to live by and at the end of the day, you look around the country, you want an opportunity to go in to work every day and really enjoy it and have the ability to be your best. He fills out the checklist on all those things."

"Florida's struggled over the years, but everybody talks about Florida. Texas has struggled over the years, but everybody talks about Texas. But what about Missouri, which has built a phenomenal program? It's the designer jean thing. Missouri's just Levi's, man. It's blue collar. Pink has built a great football program that should have national notoriety."


Missouri State head coach Dave Steckel, who spent 14 seasons as an assistant at Missouri

Pinkel encourages career advancement and notes that the few assistants who have left -- just six in 14 years -- did so for loftier positions. But he also doesn't want assistants who are job-seeking every six months.

Steckel claims Pinkel's assistants have had "numerous" opportunities to leave. While some are known -- Kuligowski, who has coached eight all-conference defensive linemen in the past eight seasons, turned down a coordinator offer at Illinois in January -- many are not.

"It hasn't been public knowledge on how many coaches could have left that desk, and the only ones who left were to better themselves professionally," Steckel said. "It's a shame that more guys out of that program haven't had more head-coaching or grander opportunities."

Perhaps it's Pinkel's understated approach. "He's not a guy that's going to go around and pat himself on the back and say, 'Look at me,'" Odom said.

Some devalue Missouri's accomplishments because they happened in the weaker divisions (Big 12 North, SEC East) and didn't culminate with league titles. Because there's so little staff turnover, Missouri hasn't made the seismic assistant hires of fellow SEC members Auburn (Will Muschamp), Alabama (Lane Kiffin) and LSU (Ed Orgeron).

Steckel thinks the problem is that college football coverage remains dominated by brand names.

"Florida’s struggled over the years, but everybody talks about Florida. Texas has struggled over the years, but everybody talks about Texas," he said. "But what about Missouri, which has built a phenomenal program? It’s the designer jean thing. Missouri’s just Levi’s, man. It's blue-collar. Pink has built a great football program that should have national notoriety.

"They should be building statues of him; they should be paying him about $6 million a year."

Pinkel, who makes $3.1 million, sees Missouri's profile growing with its SEC success. Others are figuring out what he's known for years about his staff.

Maybe the buzz is finally building, but Pinkel and his assistants know they must keep the wins coming.

"There's a special thing going," Odom said. "It's our job to take it to the next level. If respect and notoriety comes with that along the way, that's awesome."

Sam Khan Jr. contributed to this story.



KChiefs1 04-16-2015 11:25 AM

My phone has issues....sorry.

KChiefs1 04-16-2015 12:15 PM

70K expected for the spring game?

bowener 04-16-2015 01:01 PM

The only plus to getting older right now is that I will get to see Mizzou continue to grow and become a premiere program in college football.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-16-2015 03:00 PM

Rock Bridge's Tre Williams looks like another prototypical Mizzou DE. 6'5" 220, and he's already drawn interest from TCU, FSU, and Georgia, and has Missouri as his leader after their offer.

He and Josh King would be awesome recruits and future bookends.

KChiefs1 04-18-2015 02:19 PM

Anyone at the spring game?

kcchiefsus 04-18-2015 07:05 PM

Any recruits at the spring game? Now that Vanderbilt has gotten a pledge from a recruit, Missouri is the only team in the SEC without a single commitment.

WhawhaWhat 04-18-2015 10:06 PM

Shane Ray threw out the first pitch at the Royals game today. Weak toss though.

TribalElder 04-24-2015 08:52 PM

Pinkel signed an extension 4 mil per through like 2021 I believe

TribalElder 04-24-2015 08:57 PM

Mizzou raises Gary Pinkel’s salary to over $4 million, extends his contract through 2021

Two straight Southeastern Conference division titles netted Missouri football coach Gary Pinkel another raise Friday when the school announced a contract extension through 2021.

Pinkel, who has won more games than any other Tigers football coach with a 113-66 record, will make $4.02 million per year, an increase from $3.2 million in annual guaranteed compensation that was approved by the MU Board of Curators.

With the raise, Pinkel becomes the 10th of the 14 SEC football coaches to hit the $4 million mark. According to media reports, he trails Alabama’s Nick Saban ($7.16 million), Texas A&M’s Kevin Sumlin ($5 million), LSU’s Les Miles ($4.37 million) and Mississippi’s Hugh Freeze ($4.3 million). Pinkel is close to South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier, who made $4.016 million in 2014 and ahead of Georgia’s Mark Richt, Arkansas’ Bret Bielema and Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen, who recently received raises to $4 million.

Only 11 football coaches nationally made $4 million in 2014, according to USA Today.


Gary Pinkel contract.pdf
“I want to thank Chancellor (R. Bowen) Loftin and (athletic director) Mike Alden for their continuing commitment and belief in what we are doing at Mizzou,” Pinkel said in a release. “We’ve shared some pretty amazing success together over the years, and as competitors we all know there’s more to be done.”

As part of the amended contract, Pinkel will be eligible for a maximum of $725,000 in incentives, which is down from $1.825 million under the old agreement.

Pinkel resurrected the Missouri football program since taking over in 2001. The Tigers have won five division crowns since 2007, including a share of three Big 12 North titles before joining the SEC in 2012.

Missouri has played in the SEC Championship Game each of the last two seasons as Eastern Division champion, going 14-2 in conference play during the regular season.

Pinkel, who coached 10 years at Toledo before his arrival in Columbia, ranks 25th in career victories in the NCAA’s Football Championship Subdivision and ranks fourth among active coaches with an overall record of 186-103-3.

“The success of our football program has helped elevate the university’s national profile and Gary’s teams have provided some incredibly proud moments for all Missourians,” Loftin said in a release. “His commitment to excellence is exemplified not only in his on-field success, but in the academic achievements of his student-athletes and the high character young men who graduate from MU. This commitment to Gary is well-earned.”

Pinkel received a contract extension through 2020 last spring after Missouri’s first SEC East title. The Tigers’ five division crowns since 2007 is tied for most in the nation.

Pinkel, who was chosen SEC coach of the year by his peers last season, is 7-4 in bowl games, including three straight wins.

Missouri won the 2014 Cotton Bowl and 2015 Citrus Bowl, going 23-5 in the last two seasons, and has produced six first-round NFL Draft picks since 2009, which is the fourth most in the country.

The Tigers also are the only SEC team to earn top-10 marks in the NCAA’s Academic Progress Rate the last two seasons.

“With the tremendous academic and competitive successes of our football program, including winning the last two SEC East championships, Gary is well-deserving of this extension,” said Alden, whose last day as athletic director is Sunday. “His impact on our students, athletic department and university are immeasurable and he represents what is great about Mizzou. I know the Tigers are in great hands for a long time to come.”

Alden’s successor, Mack Rhoades, takes over Monday. He was hired in early March after Alden announced his retirement Jan. 29.

“Coach Pinkel has established himself as one of the premier football coaches in America and he has certainly created a championship culture and tradition at Mizzou,” Rhoades said in a release. “I’m excited to get to work with Gary and help him and his staff continue their incredible run of success.”

Missouri’s 76 wins since 2007 are tied for the fifth most among schools from the Power 5 conferences.

“I’ve never been more excited to be here and to pursue excellence with such a great leadership team and such an amazing and dedicated coaching staff,” Pinkel said. “We’re excited to partner with Mack Rhoades going forward and continue to build a program that Mizzou fans will be proud of,” he said.

CHANGES IN INCENTIVES
▪ Pinkel’s contract was amended to include an additional $200,000 for apparel, radio appearances, TV appearances and booster obligations plus an extra $20,000 for conducting a team camp compared to the 2014 extension.

▪ Pinkel will still receive a $250,000 bonus for core academic and social goals and an additional $100,000 for aspirational academic and social goals, which are determined along with Loftin and Rhoades.

▪ Under the old contract, Pinkel received a $50,000 bonus for sharing the SEC East division title, $100,000 for reaching the SEC Championship Game and $200,000 for a conference title. Now, Pinkel will receive $25,000 for an appearance in the SEC Championship Game and $50,000 for winning it.

▪ The old bowl-game incentives were $100,000 for a non-playoff bowl, $150,000 for a tier-two bowl, such as the Citrus Bowl, $200,000 for making the College Football Playoff, $400,000 for reaching the national title game and $450,000 for winning a national championship. The new bowl-game incentives are $25,000 for any non-playoff bowl, $100,000 for being selected to the College Playoff, $200,000 for reaching the title game and $250,000 for a national championship.

▪ Pinkel’s bonuses for winning SEC coach of the year or national coach of the year were cut in half to $25,000 and $50,000, respectively.

▪ Pinkel no longer receives a bonus for nine or more wins, for ticket revenue or for finishing ranked in the College Football Playoffs poll.


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GloryDayz 04-24-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11458049)
Pinkel signed an extension 4 mil per through like 2021 I believe

I suspect some weather lady is pumping his dick tonight given that he has that kind of coin in the bank... Good for him...

TribalElder 04-24-2015 09:05 PM

Pinkel no longer receives a bonus for nine or more wins, for ticket revenue or for finishing ranked in the College Football Playoffs poll.


They got tired of paying that every year

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-24-2015 09:26 PM

Can we renegotiate Anderson's contract to 1977 minimum wage, since that's the last time he was relevant on a basketball court?

TribalElder 04-24-2015 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11458234)
Can we renegotiate Anderson's contract to 1977 minimum wage, since that's the last time he was relevant on a basketball court?

Just give andersons money to pinkel and have pinkel coach the basketball team

Surely he could win more games than 7 or however many

POND_OF_RED 04-25-2015 01:01 AM

Crazy. I like what Pinkel has been doing but it's insane to me that he's on the same pay scale as Steve Spurrier. I mean Pinkel has to be the longest tenured coach without a conference title right?!


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