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Mile High Mania 04-14-2016 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 12178915)
Didn't a St. Louis coach do that...nm.

Yeah, now it's not a lock to work... you have to know what you're doing.

O.city 04-14-2016 04:45 PM

Jason lacansauto with some rams info. Good shit man

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 04:55 PM

Fisher wont be the coach for long anyway.
either this year or next will come that so called winning coach that turns the team around

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Valiant 04-14-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12177952)
I got good money saying Fisher had jack and shit to do with making this trade happen. Kroenke is desperate to make a splash in his new home and doesn't give any ****s what anyone thinks of this.

Yep. And if fisher fails he goes down on the sword, not the owner.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12178953)
Fisher wont be the coach for long anyway.
either this year or next will come that so called winning coach that turns the team around

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I've only said that multiple times in this thread. It's not a conspiracy it's their plan

Chiefshrink 04-14-2016 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12177810)
That's an awesome haul by the Titans.

That's my thinking as well.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12179000)
That's my thinking as well.

It's only "awesome" if they make good decisions.

Lots of teams that have had a bounty of picks, like the Rams in 2012, have failed to capitalize.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12178941)
Jason lacansauto with some rams info. Good shit man

I'm lucky in that regards, I'll explain in person when we hit a game lol.

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12178990)
I've only said that multiple times in this thread. It's not a conspiracy it's their plan

lol your right its not a conspiracy,its an entertainment business.
if you understand its predetermined you are half way there.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12179032)
lol your right its not a conspiracy,its an entertainment business.
if you understand its predetermined you are half way there.

I understand it's predetermined in that they have a plan. The team is working towards a goal. They have been planning it for more years than you would imagine. (I think I even gave the timeline in my first year here. ) LA has been the goal since kroenke assumed majority ownership.

He thinks he knows why every other team has failed in la.


NOW that being said it doesn't mean the plan is going to go as planned. But it has so far.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-14-2016 05:43 PM

Dane was right; the Rams just went all-in for Goff. God DAMN that is bold as ****, and I admire the ever-living piss out of that FO for having the stones to throw...the ****...DOWN.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 05:45 PM

It really could be goff.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 05:48 PM

They DO NOT want it to get out. The NFL does not want it out. There are people in the organization who think it's a toss up because that's what they are being told. All these rumors are a part of the hype train.


They know. They just aren't telling ANYONE.

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179060)
They DO NOT want it to get out. The NFL does not want it out. There are people in the organization who think it's a toss up because that's what they are being told. All these rumors are a part of the hype train.


They know. They just aren't telling ANYONE.

of course,but this time we know who dies before next season
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Eleazar 04-14-2016 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12178990)
I've only said that multiple times in this thread. It's not a conspiracy it's their plan

It's been reported several times that I've seen, that Kroenke's questions to Fisher during the interview process were heavy on when he oversaw the Oilers' relocation, and it's the only explanation for why Fisher's job has been so secure even though he sucks balls and has 0 winning seasons out of 4 with them

Fairplay 04-14-2016 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12179000)
That's my thinking as well.

Talk about getting an NFL team overhauled, and don't forget the Titans can acquire more picks for if other NFL teams want to trade up. I like Marcus Mariota I thought he is the better QB between him and Jamis Winston.

Titans are going to have a young talented team.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12179093)
It's been reported several times that I've seen, that Kroenke's questions to Fisher during the interview process were heavy on when he oversaw the Oilers' relocation, and it's the only explanation for why Fisher's job has been so secure even though he sucks balls and has 0 winning seasons out of 4 with them

Availability is also a factor...

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-14-2016 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179116)
Availability is also a factor...

Good ol' boys club; it's what's for dinner in the NFL.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 06:13 PM

If it's the guy I've heard EVERYONE is gonna scream conspiracy.

O.city 04-14-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179002)
It's only "awesome" if they make good decisions.

Lots of teams that have had a bounty of picks, like the Rams in 2012, have failed to capitalize.

One thing the tits have going for them is they already have their qb and he's not glass boned like Bradford

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12179138)
One thing the tits have going for them is they already have their qb and he's not glass boned like Bradford

Yeah but Mularkey? He's dogshit.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179129)
If it's the guy I've heard EVERYONE is gonna scream conspiracy.

Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179254)
Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh.

Possibly.

Not the one I'm thinking of though. BUT he makes sense.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179262)
Possibly.

Not the one I'm thinking of though. BUT he makes sense.

He'd be PERFECT for Los Angeles.

The media would love him and his personality. He'd be a superstar in the land of superstars.

The 49ers rivalry would be incredible and he already has a built in rivalry with Seattle.

Kroenke will make him the highest paid coach in NFL history.

It'll be epic.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 07:04 PM

He actually makes more sense than the name I've heard has been whispered. I think I've heard their ultimate pipe dream.

Shocking if it happened

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179273)
He'd be PERFECT for Los Angeles.

The media would love him and his personality. He'd be a superstar in the land of superstars.

The 49ers rivalry would be incredible and he already has a built in rivalry with Seattle.

Kroenke will make him the highest paid coach in NFL history.

It'll be epic.

Wrong, LA will get a cool guy, not some guy that acts like a cranky 2 year old on the sidelines

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179277)
He actually makes more sense than the name I've heard has been whispered. I think I've heard their ultimate pipe dream.

Shocking if it happened

He'd be more popular than Joe Torre, Phil Jackson and Doc Rivers were, combined.

He'd probably surpass Pete Carroll, who many think would be the perfect guy but Harbaugh is younger and hungrier.

Buehler445 04-14-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12178012)
Holy crap.

That's "a deal they couldn't refuse" for sure.

Had to be multiple teams in a bidding war to move up.

This is the new NFL that desperately needs new QB talents.

Brock Osweiler gets 18m per and teams trade nearly 2 full drafts worth of picks to move up for their QB.

What's it gonna be like when Brady, Brees, Rivers, Eli and other older vets retire and that demand goes up even more?

I would guess it would be try to find a way to make the power run game work. Everyone is going small to cover if you can get a line to rape faces it might be worth a shot. It doesnt work if you don't have a respectable qb, but it is easier to find respectable than elite.

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12178108)
Big Ben was picked at #8 and went 15-1 his rookie year. It's not impossible...

Jerome Bettis and the Defense went 15-1.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178122)
If the QB (presumably, Wentz) becomes a Top Ten QB, it's completely worth the trade.

The Rams needed to make a bold move, especially since they had an extra 2nd round pick this year due to the Bradford trade.

Dane and DJ are right. It's not a bad trade if you hit. If you don't hit, taking a QB at 15 is a disaster.

If the Chiefs did this and ended up with a top 5 QB I'd beat off every day to the trade. If we did it and ended up with a game a manger, Arrowhead would burn.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12179285)
Wrong, LA will get a cool guy, not some guy that acts like a cranky 2 year old on the sidelines

Can you just ****ing die?

Or at least, not post anymore?

You're as epic a n00b ****tard as I've seen in 16+ years.

Go away, Twat.

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179290)
Can you just ****ing die?

Or at least, not post anymore?

You're as epic a n00b ****tard as I've seen in 16+ years.

Go away, Twat.

In other words , you'll cry and whine like Harbaugh on the sidelines when I'm right and you are wrong

SAUTO 04-14-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12179296)
In other words , you'll cry and whine like Harbaugh on the sidelines when I'm right and you are wrong

The name I've heard isn't young or cool and it's who Stan dreams of having, supposedly...

Easy 6 04-14-2016 07:13 PM

Rams just gutted themselves for yeeears to come

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 07:13 PM

This is LA.
This team may end up keeping a great defense but they know LA has no interest in a Ravens Style Winning team.
It will be an offensive Coach and a couple offensive players that get plenty of hype

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179305)
The name I've heard isn't young or cool and it's who Stan dreams of having, supposedly...

Young isn't necessary

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12179312)
Rams just gutted themselves for yeeears to come

LMAO

I disagree. They just set up their future.

I can't believe that people are freaking over a couple of 2nd round picks and a couple of 3rd round picks. Less than 50% of those picks pan out.

If they got their QB, like the Giants did in 2004, phantom 2nd rounders won't matter.

Buehler445 04-14-2016 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179305)
The name I've heard isn't young or cool and it's who Stan dreams of having, supposedly...

Please tell me it is Joe Gibbs, Marty Schottenheimer Gruden or Cowher. Please god tell me he gets one of these mother****ers.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12179296)
In other words , you'll cry and whine like Harbaugh on the sidelines when I'm right and you are wrong

Choke on a Mangingo sized dildo, Dildo

SAUTO 04-14-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12179325)
Please tell me it is Joe Gibbs, Marty Schottenheimer Gruden or Cowher. Please god tell me he gets one of these mother****ers.

No no no and no.

They are all available

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179337)
No no no and no.

They are all available

Holy shit, they're not gunning for Belichick after Brady retires.

Are they?

SAUTO 04-14-2016 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179340)
Holy shit, they're not gunning for Belichick after Brady retires.

Are they?

No idea.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179347)
No idea.

Non Denial denial

:D

SAUTO 04-14-2016 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179349)
Non Denial denial

:D

I think he's too old

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179328)
Choke on a Mangingo sized dildo, Dildo

choke on Kroenke being the 2nd wealthiest owner in sports at this moment.
he is being rewarded and compensated.

just like Kraft and the Pats,get ready to be sick and tired of Rams news day and night for a long time

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179355)
I think he's too old

You're probably right. He'd be 65 when they head into the 2019 season and by that time, he'll most likely won't be looking for a change of scenery, other than retirement.

Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. :D

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179340)
Holy shit, they're not gunning for Belichick after Brady retires.

Are they?

oh God, that is so unoriginal.
I hope not.

... I think for LA that doesn really work. He's an east coast coach.
lol but I'LL Take it over Har-cry-baby

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DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12179394)
oh God, that is so unoriginal.
I hope not.

... I think for LA that doesn really work. He's an east coast coach.
lol but I'LL Take it over Har-cry-baby

Go **** yourself, as long as that doesn't result in cloning your stupid ass.

eDave 04-14-2016 07:39 PM

Does Goff have a good head on his shoulders? He'll need it in LA. He'll be pretty popular in LA too.

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179423)
Go **** yourself, as long as that doesn't result in cloning your stupid ass.

what I said was brilliant and you know it !

and the gifs were perfect!

jspchief 04-14-2016 08:45 PM

I don't think it's a bad moves from the Rams. They're a hell of a lot more likely to succeed with a franchise qb than they are with a bunch of good players and no qb. This is the anti-Hunt family approach to building an NFL team.

They may be wrong about the QB they choose, but ultimately if the goal is a serious SB contender, they won't be any further from their goal for swinging and missing.

GloucesterChief 04-14-2016 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12179355)
I think he's too old

I am guessing Shaw from Stanford.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12179775)
I am guessing Shaw from Stanford.

No idea

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-14-2016 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179273)
He'd be PERFECT for Los Angeles.

The media would love him and his personality. He'd be a superstar in the land of superstars.

The 49ers rivalry would be incredible and he already has a built in rivalry with Seattle.

Kroenke will make him the highest paid coach in NFL history.

It'll be epic.

No one in the NFL is touching Harbaugh with a 10 foot pole until he shows some stability in a coaching job. He single-handedly destroyed the 49ers organization. Granted, jed york is on pace to become the next Al Davis.

Personally, I think he and his wife just want stability and are going to stay put in Michigan for quite a long time. That was way too much drama for one family to handle. Ann Arbor loves him too much to not let him have what he wants, unlike Stanford who wouldn't succumb to all his control freak needs.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12179920)
No one in the NFL is touching Harbaugh with a 10 foot pole until he shows some stability in a coaching job. He single-handedly destroyed the 49ers organization. Granted, jed york is on pace to become the next Al Davis.

Personally, I think he and his wife just want stability and are going to stay put in Michigan for quite a long time. That was way too much drama for one family to handle. Ann Arbor loves him too much to not let him have what he wants, unlike Stanford who wouldn't succumb to all his control freak needs.

:facepalm:

Bewbies 04-14-2016 10:40 PM

No surprise the fans of a team who refuses to even pretend to want to swing at QB dislikes seeing a team swing for the fence.

Chiefshrink 04-14-2016 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179926)
:facepalm:

Agreed. Trent Balke destroyed the Niners not Harbaugh. Balke wanted to start calling the shots and Harbaugh said no and the GM won and the Niners and fans lost.

Chief Northman 04-14-2016 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12179920)
No one in the NFL is touching Harbaugh with a 10 foot pole until he shows some stability in a coaching job. He single-handedly destroyed the 49ers organization. Granted, jed york is on pace to become the next Al Davis.

Personally, I think he and his wife just want stability and are going to stay put in Michigan for quite a long time. That was way too much drama for one family to handle. Ann Arbor loves him too much to not let him have what he wants, unlike Stanford who wouldn't succumb to all his control freak needs.

What a horrible take. Do you even believe half the shit you post?

tk13 04-14-2016 11:52 PM

I get the idea behind being aggressive, but there is also a wide, wide, wiiiide gap between being scared to draft a QB and trading 6 draft picks for one.

But people said the same thing when Washington made the RGIII trade. Just like there's no rule that you have to wait for Andrew Luck to draft a QB in the 1st round, there's no rule saying you have to mortgage the entire draft to move up to #1 to get one either. But if you do go that route, he better be that good.

Toby Waller 04-15-2016 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12179971)
I get the idea behind being aggressive, but there is also a wide, wide, wiiiide gap between being scared to draft a QB and trading 6 draft picks for one.

But people said the same thing when Washington made the RGIII trade. Just like there's no rule that you have to wait for Andrew Luck to draft a QB in the 1st round, there's no rule saying you have to mortgage the entire draft to move up to #1 to get one either. But if you do go that route, he better be that good.


Or the Rams Draft A QB in the 1st and maybe a later round and behold, that later round QB ends up being a super star.
Kroenke is the new Kraft,get use to it

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-15-2016 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179926)
:facepalm:

Are "former 9'er fans" all as ****ing reeruned as this clown?

OldSchool 04-16-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 12177822)
Damn, why couldn't we have gotten a deal like this when we had the #1 pick?

Been said time and time again, it was a shitty draft. I mean, you guys were hoping for Geno Smith at #1, ROFL.

O.city 04-16-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12181683)
Been said time and time again, it was a shitty draft. I mean, you guys were hoping for Geno Smith at #1, ROFL.

And chandler Jones is a better pass rusher than Justin houston.

We each have our crosses to bear I suppose

OldSchool 04-16-2016 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12181689)
And chandler Jones is a better pass rusher than Justin houston.

We each have our crosses to bear I suppose

At least he's actually a good player who plays in playoff games and helped his team to a SB win as opposed to being a bust like Geno Smith, Clausen, Sanchez. Need I go on?ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-16-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12181694)
At least he's actually a good player who plays in playoff games and helped his team to a SB win as opposed to being a bust like Geno Smith, Clausen, Sanchez. Need I go on?ROFL

Don't worry. As a Chiefs fan, you can look forward to defending the average play of average QB's for decades to come.

You've got it wrapped up!

Easy 6 04-16-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179322)
LMAO

I disagree. They just set up their future.

I can't believe that people are freaking over a couple of 2nd round picks and a couple of 3rd round picks. Less than 50% of those picks pan out.

If they got their QB, like the Giants did in 2004, phantom 2nd rounders won't matter.

I understand the reasoning behind wanting to make a huge splash to impress LA/the league/media... not to mention potentially setting themselves up with a face of the franchise for the next decade

But maaan, TWO firsts - TWO seconds - AND TWO thirds just sounds incredibly steep

Two firsts is reasonable enough, that seems pretty common for a move like this

But after that they should've bargained a LOT harder IMO... a second this year and a third next year, something along those lines

And, not trying to rain on your parade as I can CLEARLY sense your glee at having a home team to get behind :D... but seriously, Fisher will most likely ruin the guy before a new coach makes his way in

He is the last guy I would want coaching my rookie phenom, that guy doesnt know a quarterback from Nickelback

Pasta Little Brioni 04-16-2016 05:39 PM

Dane is correct. Have you gone back and looked at the 2nd and 3rd rounds of drafts? It's pretty ugly.

Toby Waller 04-16-2016 05:46 PM

a report said the Rams worked out an Oregon QB today or yesterday

Pasta Little Brioni 04-16-2016 05:51 PM

Rams homer announcers jerked it to the thought of Mannion playing this year ROFL So glad that turd franchise is out West.

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182043)
I understand the reasoning behind wanting to make a huge splash to impress LA/the league/media... not to mention potentially setting themselves up with a face of the franchise for the next decade

But maaan, TWO firsts - TWO seconds - AND TWO thirds just sounds incredibly steep

Two firsts is reasonable enough, that seems pretty common for a move like this

You're missing the point, IMO. The Rams have been stuck in perpetual mediocrity, not because they haven't been drafting well, because they have. They have the 2014 Rookie Defensive Player of the Year, the 2015 Rookie Offensive player of the year and a very stout defense. The reason they haven't been able to get over the hump is due to the QB position.

They received a 2nd round pick in the Bradford trade, so it was a no-brainer to trade up for a QB.

This is a league in which there's a 50% bust rate so even with the #1, 2 #2's and 2 #3's, 2-3 of those guys won't even be in the league in three years. If they hit on a Franchise QB, no one will care.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, they have an additional 4th and 6th. The Broncos are interested in Case Keenum, so they'll probably get at least a 4th for him, if not a 3rd (Denver has two 3rd rounders at #94 and #98).

This trade was a no-brainer for a team that hasn't had a Franchise QB since Warner hit a lull in 2003, was released and went to the NY Giants in 2004.

It has nothing to do with "splash" and everything to do with moving the team forward.

Toby Waller 04-16-2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12182095)
Rams homer announcers jerked it to the thought of Mannion playing this year ROFL So glad that turd franchise is out West.

it will be a golden turd soon

saphojunkie 04-16-2016 06:05 PM

THey probably had a better chance of finding a franchise guy by just literally using every one of those picks on a QB.

Easy 6 04-16-2016 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12182103)
You're missing the point, IMO. The Rams have been stuck in perpetual mediocrity, not because they haven't been drafting well, because they have. They have the 2014 Rookie Defensive Player of the Year, the 2015 Rookie Offensive player of the year and a very stout defense. The reason they haven't been able to get over the hump is due to the QB position.

They received a 2nd round pick in the Bradford trade, so it was a no-brainer to trade up for a QB.

This is a league in which there's a 50% bust rate so even with the #1, 2 #2's and 2 #3's, 2-3 of those guys won't even be in the league in three years. If they hit on a Franchise QB, no one will care.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, they have an additional 4th and 6th. The Broncos are interested in Case Keenum, so they'll probably get at least a 4th for him, if not a 3rd (Denver has two 3rd rounders at #94 and #98).

This trade was a no-brainer for a team that hasn't had a Franchise QB since Warner hit a lull in 2003, was released and went to the NY Giants in 2004.

It has nothing to do with "splash" and everything to do with moving the team forward.

I get it man, trading up to get a stud WAS the right move for that team... there arent any on the market, so the only way to get one is draft him

They also have a legit defense and a new Marshall Faulk to pair him with, I still just disagree with 2 each in the second and third

Give someone like Dorsey 4 shots in those rounds and they wouldnt seem so meaningless IMO... but I'm just an interested observer, no dog in this fight and I hope it works out well in LA

Who are you wanting them to get?

Pasta Little Brioni 04-16-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Waller (Post 12182104)
it will be a golden turd soon

Vincent Kennedy Goodell will ensure it

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2016 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182111)
Give someone like Dorsey 4 shots in those rounds and they wouldnt seem so meaningless IMO... but I'm just an interested observer, no dog in this fight and I hope it works out well in LA

My perspective is this: Two 2's? One was a "freebie" for getting rid of Bradford and if history tells us anything, one of those guys won't make it past year 3, whether he can't play or is injured, etc., so no biggie.

Two 3's? They received a 4th and 6th to pair with their 4, 5, 6 and 7th round picks so it's possible they could package up picks to jump into the 3rd round. As for next year, they'll get a 3rd round Comp Pick for Janoris Jenkins, so no biggie.

I just don't think it's that much to give up for a Franchise QB when the rest of your roster is ready to rock.

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182111)
Who are you wanting them to get?

I prefer Wentz. 6'5, 235, Plus arm, great mobility. He led his team to two straight FCS championships and was a team member of five straight appearances. He played in a Pro Set and I think he's a Rothlisberger type guy.

Time will tell but I think that this beats the alternative of drafting and developing a very raw Paxton Lynch, who isn't even guaranteed to fall to their original spot of #15.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-16-2016 06:27 PM

Wentz is the next big thing.

Easy 6 04-16-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12182120)
My perspective is this: Two 2's? One was a "freebie" for getting rid of Bradford and if history tells us anything, one of those guys won't make it past year 3, whether he can't play or is injured, etc., so no biggie.

Two 3's? They received a 4th and 6th to pair with their 4, 5, 6 and 7th round picks so it's possible they could package up picks to jump into the 3rd round. As for next year, they'll get a 3rd round Comp Pick for Janoris Jenkins, so no biggie.

I just don't think it's that much to give up for a Franchise QB when the rest of your roster is ready to rock.



I prefer Wentz. 6'5, 235, Plus arm, great mobility. He led his team to two straight FCS championships and was a team member of five straight appearances. He played in a Pro Set and I think he's a Rothlisberger type guy.

Time will tell but I think that this beats the alternative of drafting and developing a very raw Paxton Lynch, who isn't even guaranteed to fall to their original spot of #15.


The Bradford freebie in the second does take the worst of the sting out of it, house money

Lets see what my draft bible says about Wentz...

Pros - 6'5 235 his learning curve wont be as steep as the average FCS prospect. He operated a pro-style offense for the Bison and shows sound footwork coming out from under center with the ability to work through progressions.

His size is ideal and he shows good zip on tighter window throws with a compact delivery. A good, flexible athlete, able to slide and willing to stand in and make throws while absorbing contact, keeps his eyes up when the pocket gets muddy

Cons - There are obvious concerns with level of competition, and he lost a chunk of last season to a wrist injury. He also tends to live dangerously, throwing into traffic

Bottom Line - theres a risk, but Wentz compares favorably to the last first round FCS QB Joe Flacco

So a big, athletic pocket QB with the frame to get bigger, no Jay Cutler laser but a solid plus arm that can make every throw... sounds more like Roethlisberger, sign me up

Elite cannon arms are awesome, but I'd rather have that 6'5 245 player who can make a solid throw with two guys in his face and one hanging off his waist

Its why I'm glad Bray has been kept around for some strange reason...

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2016 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182144)
The Bradford freebie in the second does take the worst of the sting out of it, house money

Getting a pick for Case Keenum will lessen the blow as well. The Broncos reported want him but the Rams put a 1st round tender on him heading into free agency.

I could see them getting a Conditional 3rd or 4th for him, if the Broncos really want him as reported.

He played for Kubiak in Houston so it makes some sense.

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12182144)
Bottom Line - theres a risk, but Wentz compares favorably to the last first round FCS QB Joe Flacco

If the Rams get a Joe Flacco, a guy that's been very good in the playoffs since being drafted in 2008 and they get a Super Bowl appearance or victory, the trade will have been a no brainer.

Hoopsdoc 04-16-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12179340)
Holy shit, they're not gunning for Belichick after Brady retires.

Are they?

The Big Tuna. I assume he's still alive.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-16-2016 07:14 PM

I would laugh for days if Denver pisses away a 3rd on that turd Keenum.

Easy 6 04-16-2016 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12182159)
If the Rams get a Joe Flacco, a guy that's been very good in the playoffs since being drafted in 2008 and they get a Super Bowl appearance or victory, the trade will have been a no brainer.

Its a huge, admirable swing for the fences

My tune is changing on it, with decent QB play this team has enough talent to make real noise, consistently giving teams like Seattle and AZ all they want

And its really the only move they had to show they were serious about bringing a winner to LA

The big if is Fisher, he certainly has his fingerprints all over that brawling style they consistently upset top teams with, dude has always brought the bullyish, nasty defense

But he is such an offensive dinosaur, probably the worst in the NFL, I hope he doesnt wreck this shiny new car


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