He should read your posts during the playoffs for pointers.

if James wins against the warriors again and goes to the finals a 7th straight time.. then he will deserve all the praise.

Would need to win 'it' more than one time.

Still, Jordan conquers Lebron in just about every category.

Not sure why people are giving Durant shit, other than OKC fans, who deserve to be pissed. This isn't the same as Lebron. Durant is a good player but he's probably not going to be in the same conversation as the all-time greats like Jordan. So I don't think he'll be "demoted" on the list because he flocked toward a winner.

Unfortunately, with basketball, I really wonder how much sponsorships have to do with this too. With Durant having a massive Nike contract, I'd have to imagine they were more than nudging him to pick somewhere like Golden State. Interesting that Under Armour's golden boy and one of Nike's biggest golden boys will play for the same team.

Presti got rid of Harden. Also, Oklahoma is a shithole, while CA is pretty damn nice.

I personally don't think LBJ will ever be on Jordan's level. MJ is in my opinion the best player ever in any sport.

But there isn't any question that he belongs in the same conversation as all the other non-Jordan greats.

Needs to evolve his game as he ages and hasn't done that yet. It will be interesting to see where that takes him. But even with a few more championships, I don't see him besting MJ. I just don't think there's even been a clutcher player in any sport than MJ.

If he wanted to play with the best instead of beat the best, he probably should have gone to Cleveland instead.

Wolves should offer Rubio and Muhammed for Westbrook. Presti might be dumb enough to do it.

;)

Jerry West has the magic touch. Also I am curious if Westbrook told KD he wasn't going to resign next year.

http://theundefeated.com/features/st...join-warriors/

That team is going to be unreal.

Good thing for Cleveland they won it this year.

The thing that sucks about the NBA now is the product is horrible bc there is no parity anywhere. The Western conference has turned into the Eastern conference.

LeBron wins the East every year (bc it's incredibly weak), Tim Duncan will retire causing the Spurs to rebuild a bit, KD leaves OKC and the Warriors are much stronger. It's going to be GS/CLE part tres next year and probably the year after that.

Last year OKC and SA were legit challenges for GS, but that's over now. Nobody will challenge GS or Cleveland Unless they play each other.
The NBA already had a growing problem with parity, but now the league is weaker and more unwatchable than ever before.

Fans won't really care until the Finals.

Both conferences are now complete shit from like their 4th seed playoff team to the bottom. There is a complete lack of talent everywhere. Nobody is believable besides like 4 teams (Cavs, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers)

I always thought besides shortening the season the NBA needs to have some kind of franchise tag. Parity is what makes the NFL great and the NBA needs to follow suit somehow. I know they tried in the last CBA but I don't think it is working that well.

Cleveland, Oakland, Cleveland, Oakland every year, who wants to watch that!

Tell us about NFL parity.

This.

Lebron or Durant? Like picking between Denver and the Raiders. I just wont watch.

I can just see milkman walking into the barbershop with a flatbill and gold chain to lay down his hot take of nba and hip hop ;)

I am done watching Basketball.

This is turning into a bush league.

The "elite" star players are sellouts. They (i.e., Lebron & Durant) have so much impact to the point where they've narrowed the competition into a two team league. They've bolstered the level of competition within their clubs to the point where it cannot be matched by the rest of the league.

I understand it's about them wanting to win championships, etc.....I get it but for Gods sake where does that leave everyone else? It handcuffs the rest of the other teams in the league. Forget about anybody else. It's going to be Cleveland vs Golden State again and again.

This whole building super team bs is becoming a trend over the last 15-20 years. It started with Shaq and the other stars like James, Durant copied along.

And now that we hear Wade might join Cleveland? That's when you know it's getting out of hand. But what can you do? That's the frustrating part. This stuff is difficult to regulate because no star will like it if they're restricted in their actions on where to sign.

So what can be done to control this? It's not fun watching basketball when you know that you're team is somebody other than GS or Cleveland has no chance at winning it.

Where can the league go from here? As a fan Id like to see more balance, and distribution with respect to competition.

Draymond Green is a Top 5 NBA player??? I mean he's good but I can't go that far.

I miss the days of Hakeem "The Dream" and Mad Max bombing three pointers from mid court.

#Clutchcity

I really would like the NBA adopt a salary strategy that would make it impossible to have 3 star players on the same team. It used to be one star & one sidekick. Now it's super teams. And, it's going to sell tickets. It's going to be marketable. And make a ton of money. But I don't like it.

That second Bulls run started it.. but those Lakers and Celtics teams had 3 star players in the 80's...

Phili too

The Bulls had 2 stars. Rodman was a good player, but no where near a star. Ron Harper was just a volume shooter and a Jamal Crawford type of player and then toned it down when joining the balls.

David West signs with GS

There is more parity in the NFL than the NBA. Every year there is multiple teams that can be SB champs and always some surprise teams. In the NBA there are no surprises.

That is more of a product of the seven game series in the playoffs. Nonetheless, alot of the same teams are up there every year in the NFL. In the last 8 or 9 years in the NBA, there still has been 7 different NBA champions.

Just look at this year, NOBODY thought Cleveland was going to win the NBA Finals. Spurs, Warriors, Thunder maybe. But most expected the Cavs to get wacked by the Western Conference Affiliate.

Rodman was a star, on and off the court...

Right, he wasn't a star. Rodman was just a Hall of Fame caliber player.:rolleyes:

Who were the players shaq went to la to become a super team with?

Oh no one. Kobe was a ****ing rookie van exel was young, Eddie Jones? Cedric ceballos?


Once again bricks proves a brick is smarter than he is

The Daddy just wanted to make movies and rap videos. He was going to win any place he picked.

Rodman was an excellent rebounder and defender, but the Bulls were playing four-on-five on offense.

All of these guys get bitched at because they don't win championships. Then try to win by going to the best situations to get championships, and they still get bitched at.

Welcome to world of an elite player. Most people size up James and Durant to how the all time greats did it. It is a hell of a measuring stick as they are finding out.

Yup. 10 teams have won NBA championships in the past 30 years. And that's even inflating the #'s because of the recent changing of the guard. GS and Cleveland are new winners, but we all know those 2 teams will probably clean up championships for the next few years or so.

The NFL has 10 champions the past 13 years. Only 11 teams have represented in the finals in 10 years. So NFL has had terrific parity at Super Bowl winners.

Baseball has had 16 teams represent the World Series in the past 10 years. So baseball has had terrific parity in terms of teams representing in the WS.

West is a better player than Ezeli ever was. Good signing. Looks like Golden State will be perennially signing good vets who want rings to minimum contracts in order to win their rings before retiring now. Take advantage of the prime of Curry, Thompson, Green, and Durant's careers.

After watching the playoffs this year, there's not even a question in my mind anymore. His defense is just incredible and so necessary to what the Warriors do.

Lack of talent? Towns and Wiggins have incredible talent on a team that couldn't make the playoffs.

I wasnt impressed with him at all for the majority of the playoffs. Alot of his assists are just a product of the system they run and having the two best shooters of all time. Still good player, but no way in hell a top 5 guy. Top 17 Id say.

I bet the Warriors don't finish with a better record, and that the Cavs win it again.

There's a difference between winning a championship (Bob Horry) and being a guy that carries the vast majority of the load on a team that wins a championship (LeBron James).


Curry can't carry the load, which he proved over the last two years, and Durant just admitted that he can't, either.

I'll take that bet

You serious?

Draymond can guard 4/5 positions, including the other team's best big more times than not. And he does it very well. He's their primary rebounder, and his ability to handle on the break or secondary break is incredibly underrated. He can bring the ball down quickly while Klay and Steph spot up on the break. That gets them a number of open looks in the open floor. He can guard either side of a pick and roll, and he can run either side of a pick and roll on offense. He can get to the basket, but he's also a threat from 3. Not to mention his attitude and energy give that team their fire.

He had a couple of bad games in the playoffs, and he obviously has a dirty streak, which leads me to really not liking the dude. But his impact on the game is significant.

Horry made some clutch shots in the playoffs.

Mark Madsen better example.

Your bet is the Warriors do both? What's the bet?

I would think it's just what you said.

He thinks the warriors have a better record next year than they had this year and the Cavs wont win it again

It sounds like Wade is going to Cleveland.

potential is different than seasoned talent.

The Wolves aren't potential.

They're a legitimate threat in two years.

They're like the Thunder prior to 2009 that everybody knew was going to rape faces. Except they have the chance to be even better.

Very unlikely.

No bet if Wade goes to Cle. Lol

They do not. That is ridiculous.

If KD stayed they would have signed Horford, but Horford knew KD was gone.
KD, Westbrook, Horford, Adams, Olidipo. One hell of a starting lineup.

Would have been awesome to see that team battle the Warriors, but nope. Now it's the Warriors and Cavs and the Spurs 500 ft below them as the next best team.

I read they were "talking", but Cleveland cant match what Wade wants. Unless of course Wade takes less, but they are calling it a long shot at this point.

Were folks as salty when LMA went to the Spurs?

Someone associated with the Cavs announcer said it was 'a done deal.'

Who knows at this point.

Aldridge is basically Chris Bosh/Kevin Love...except worse. Nobody cared.

Could very well be the best defensive player in the league. And the system helps all of them, but you need to have superb court vision and a very high BBIQ to play that role that he does in that offense. The fact that he's also improved his shot to become a well above average 3PT shooter (38.8%) is also enormously helpful.

It's a chance with KAT. He's that damn good.

Not saying it will happen, but very quickly people are going to start talking about him as a top 5 NBA player the way they do Anthony Davis.

And KAT is going to be better than Anthony Davis.

I'd care a lot more about the Wade rumors if he was still in his 20s and his knees weren't completely gone. He could still probably manage to be a good role player on a contender, but acquiring him now would be kind of like the Nets acquiring Paul Pierce a few years back.

ROFL

I think the Cavs will trade someone like shumpert. It also wouldn't surprise me if lebron took a massive paycut. He can afford to take a 1 year haircut given his enormous endorsement earnings. But what I'd really like is to trade love and get a little value back.

Why? The Warriors finished 73-9 last year and lost in Gm 7 to the Cavs. They just added a top 5 NBA player and the Cavs have done what exactly?

I'm not a fan of either team but lets be realistic here. Warriors will more than likely destroy any team they face in the playoffs if they are healthy.

Stop Curry, there's Durant, stop Durant (and stopping Curry AND Durant is going to be nearly impossible), there's Klay, Stop Klay, there's Green.. Also, they still have a decent bench..

Ha! Good luck Cavs...

He's not worse than those two, he is pretty much just as good if not a little better.

if it was wade in his 20s then i honestly wouldn't care if durant was on the warriors. I'd go all in on a Wade/Irving/James lineup

I'm torn on this. I like the fit better than love. And I'm assuming playoff Wade will be back. And that version of Wade was spectacular last year.
But Wade is a volume shooter and not a strong defender so I'm not really sure how the three make it work, let alone if love is in the lineup. The Cavs barely made multiple iso players work against gs last year.

If the Cavs traded Love (unlikely), they would need to recoup two pieces. One would be a stretch 4. The other would need to be an athletic wing or rangy five.

I don't see them being able to do that. Additionally, they will be a landing spot for post-buyout vets or league minimum guys chasing a ring. There is value in that.

It's going to be extremely hard to beat the Warriors. Just too much firepower for any one team to beat IMO.

It's almost unfair which is why this signing is bad for the NBA... It's starting to set a bad trend and I don't like it.

The Warriors still suck/Bundy

Which is why I could see lebron taking a hometown discount. If lebron and Wade get paid below value, you trade love, you can probably also keep Jr Smith, shumpert, and Jefferson in addition to already having Channing Frye. Could probably also look into exchanging shumpert for a big. Not an ideal situation. But there are some intriguing options and I really could see lebron taking a big cut if he knew it brought in Wade.

GS is one injury away from allowing a lineup of either Parker, Green, Kawhi, Pau, Aldridge.....or Kyrie, Smith/Wade, LeBron, Tristan, and Love to beat their assess in the playoffs

Plus GS losing Bogut and Festus to play really small ball.. Even pachulia/west can't fix that problem. The lack of interior presence gives SA and CLE the advantage

who is going to beat them inside besides Lebron

300 year old Pau Gasol? Lamarcus Aldridge? Those guys are soft, Draymond Green can handle both of them.

you make it seem like these teams have prime Shaq inside the paint. The only thing that they can't stop is a 260 lb Lebron flying down the lane running over people like a tight end playing basketball.

Even though the Jazz aren't there yet they will be the toughest front court the Warriors have to face because of their size and length.

Now Ray Allen might sign with golden state lmao

Well he did get one for James but at 41? He can probably still hit the 3 but not much else

It's not just about post defense. It's rim protection as well. Bogut (and to a lesser extent Ezeli) provided cover at the basket for the GSW perimeter defenders. Bogut had a tremendous impact on several games in the playoffs. He made things difficult at times for LeBron early in the series trying to finish around the basket. His injury was big.

That said, I don't think it changes the Warrior's place as favorites. But it will be something (rim protection) they'll have to figure out/overcome.

I don't see anything wrong with these vets going to favorites to get a ring. They've earned that opportunity. They bring something to the table, or the team wouldn't sign them. I have nothing against a guy nearing retirement looking for that one last rush of a title chase. The ring is important, but I think these guys have the perspective to understand it's about that life experience. You want to enjoy life, right? Would you rather "earn respect" toiling away for some crap team that can't win, or play on a team that allows you to truly enjoy your job?

I don't have an issue with that as much as I have an issue with a salary cap in a superstar driven league that does nothing from allowing teams to empire build. And I'm saying this as a fan of the biggest offender, the Cavs. It shouldn't be this easy to build a big three. In an ideal world a superstar would struggle to find good talent around him. And the idea that drafts have been rendered almost meaningless after the first few picks.

It's a challenge silver needs to solve.