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Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12776008)
How much can space would we have if we cut Alex Smith?

Looks like he's on the books for $16.9M and he would count $7.2M dead money.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12776014)
I'll be honest... I'm on the fence. If it were me, neither would get more than a 2 year deal. Cutler is a malcontent. But, if I had to pick 1 of those right now, it would be a damn tough decision - not in a good way. Romo is a better leader, better locker room guy.

Romo is better at everything. Even as far as injuries go, its basically a wash.

Neither comes without great risk.

raybec 4 03-09-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776002)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Everything I am hearing talking to teams about the Texans is that they are NOT interested in adding a QB. Might change, but is the feeling</p>&mdash; michael lombardi (@mlombardiNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/839911769573212160">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Hack, he doesn't know shit

Quesadilla Joe 03-09-2017 01:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/839915288799903744">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776037)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/839915288799903744">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Mort better be drunk.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 01:09 PM

Elway is a beast

KC_Lee 03-09-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776037)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/839915288799903744">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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A trade would avoid a drawn out soap opera-like saga with hourly "Where is Romo Going to Land" updates.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 12776047)
A trade would avoid a drawn out soap opera-like saga with hourly "Where is Romo Going to Land" updates.

Screw that...

staylor26 03-09-2017 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12776044)
Elway is a beast

:rolleyes:

At getting free agents?

Quesadilla Joe 03-09-2017 01:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/839915288799903744">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Rooster 03-09-2017 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 12776047)
A trade would avoid a drawn out soap opera-like saga with hourly "Where is Romo Going to Land" updates.

No shit. Didn't they have a helicopter follow Manning around when he landed in Denver? Now that was a soap opera.

Quesadilla Joe 03-09-2017 01:15 PM

Elway must really want to trade Siemian for some reason and doesn't want to risk losing Romo to the Texans like he did with Brock last year.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776058)
Elway must really want to trade Siemian for some reason and doesn't want to risk losing Romo to the Texans like he did with Brock last year.

I think this is all last minute smoke and mirrors by Jerry... trying to get something rather than nothing.

Quesadilla Joe 03-09-2017 01:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Being told by source would be surprising if <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash">#Broncos</a> traded for Romo... Again a lot of plates in the air...Fluid situation <a href="https://twitter.com/DenverChannel">@DenverChannel</a></p>&mdash; Troy Renck (@TroyRenck) <a href="https://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/839918226104598528">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Rausch 03-09-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776067)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Being told by source would be surprising if <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash">#Broncos</a> traded for Romo... Again a lot of plates in the air...Fluid situation <a href="https://twitter.com/DenverChannel">@DenverChannel</a></p>&mdash; Troy Renck (@TroyRenck) <a href="https://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/839918226104598528">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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It would be surprising since he's going to be released...

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:21 PM

I think it's a last minute effort to drive a trade... someone take John to the bar or the golf course, quick.

philfree 03-09-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776054)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/839915288799903744">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Don't the Texans already have a big contract to pay Dorkwilder? Giving up on him after 1 year? If I'm the owner I don't think I'd be happy with that.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:24 PM

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Now getting some backpedal on Siemian/Jets/Bromcos talk. But Romo as a trade rather than release is still alive.

Walk it back, walk it all back...

Quesadilla Joe 03-09-2017 01:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now getting some backpedal on Siemian/Jets/Bromcos talk. But Romo as a trade rather than release is still alive.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/839919646102994945">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maybe the Texans are panicking and want to ensure they get Romo???

vailpass 03-09-2017 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12776070)
It would be surprising since he's going to be released...

Romo now expected to be traded, not released.Tony Romo is expected to be traded, rather than released, by the Cowboys, league sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The Broncos and Texans are both in play, according to sources.

espn.com

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:27 PM

Ian Rapoport‏V @RapSheet 1m1 minute ago

If there are Tony Romo trade talks happening, few in either of the two buildings discussed know about it. Cowboys keeping options open.

Chiefshrink 03-09-2017 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12776044)
Elway is a beast

Not when it comes to drafting OL.:rolleyes:

RunKC 03-09-2017 01:31 PM

James Palmer

I’ve also been told that the Broncos are not currently shopping Trevor Siemian

ForeverChiefs58 03-09-2017 01:35 PM

P. Schrager
@PSchrags
Tampa Bay not done plucking from Washington. Barring any snags, Bucs are closing in on a deal to sign DL Chris Baker.

ForeverChiefs58 03-09-2017 01:39 PM

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
After considering Denver, Calais Campbell is going to sign a 4-year, $60 million deal that includes $30M gtd with Jacksonville, per source.

staylor26 03-09-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 12776121)
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
After considering Denver, Calais Campbell is going to sign a 4-year, $60 million deal that includes $30M gtd with Jacksonville, per source.

Now that cuck can shut the **** up about Elway

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 01:40 PM

Yep, Calais is headed to the Jags and reports now say that Romo was never going to be waived. Weird.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 01:42 PM

Good lord, Jacksonville. $15M per year?

Also, the LDT contract doesn't look that bad now already. Guards are getting paid big.

ForeverChiefs58 03-09-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776128)
Good lord, Jacksonville. $15M per year?

Also, the LDT contract doesn't look that bad now already. Guards are getting paid big.

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Former Bengals G Kevin Zeitler expects to sign with Cleveland, per sources. Big day for Browns O line. Highest paid guard in NFL history.

Red Dawg 03-09-2017 01:43 PM

Manning effect is dead. Pats will experience the same effect when Brady's done. FA want money.

RunKC 03-09-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776128)
Good lord, Jacksonville. $15M per year?

Also, the LDT contract doesn't look that bad now already. Guards are getting paid big.

Bitonio
Leary
Lang
Warford
Zeitler

4 G's who have or will get more $$ than LDT before he even plays a snap on the new deal.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 01:43 PM

Browns set to make Kevin Zeitler the highest paid guard in NFL history.

Red Dawg 03-09-2017 01:46 PM

Jerry just can't let Romo walk.

ForeverChiefs58 03-09-2017 01:47 PM

Eagles | Alshon Jeffery favoring Eagles
Thu, 09 Mar 2017 11:33:29 -0800

Chicago Bears impending free-agent WR Alshon Jeffery is leaning towards signing with the Philadelphia Eagles, according to a source.

Jeffery, one of the most coveted players on the free-agent market, makes sense for the Eagles. Philadelphia really needs receiving help in addition to Jordan Matthews, and Torrey Smith doesn't exactly scratch that itch. If Jeffery does join the Eagles, he'll remain a low-end WR1 to high-end WR2 with impressive sophomore quarterback Carson Wentz.

Source: ESPN.com - Josina Anderson

ForeverChiefs58 03-09-2017 01:48 PM

Cleveland plans to give Kevin Zeitler a five-year, $60 million deal that includes $31 .5 million guaranteed, per source.

TambaBerry 03-09-2017 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 12776143)
Cleveland plans to give Kevin Zeitler a five-year, $60 million deal that includes $31 .5 million guaranteed, per source.

For a guard? WTF, that LDT deal is looking real good now. Dorsey is a machine

Red Dawg 03-09-2017 02:03 PM

Semen to the Jets trade. It's done.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12776175)
Semen to the Jets trade. It's done.

Would they do that move unless they had a trade set for Romo?

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12776175)
Semen to the Jets trade. It's done.

So, several minutes later and still nothing on Twitter.

Red Dawg 03-09-2017 02:08 PM

They draft Lynch using like 3 picks. Yes I think they might.

Red Dawg 03-09-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12776185)
So, several minutes later and still nothing on Twitter.

It's all over the radio but not totally official yet. Kinda like Dallas releasing Romo. Still hasn't happened.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12776188)
It's all over the radio but not totally official yet. Kinda like Dallas releasing Romo. Still hasn't happened.

Ah... fabricating. Gotcha.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 02:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/839915288799903744">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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RealSNR 03-09-2017 02:16 PM

But... Campbell has family and is sentimental about growing up in Denver!

If Horseface had any class at all, he would have upped his offer to make this man's dream come true. Now he has to fester in Jacksonville with all that cash.

Right, Knowmo?

staylor26 03-09-2017 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12776204)
But... Campbell has family and is sentimental about growing up in Denver!

If Horseface had any class at all, he would have upped his offer to make this man's dream come true. Now he has to fester in Jacksonville with all that cash.

Right, Knowmo?

ROFL

CupidStunt 03-09-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12776166)
For a guard? WTF, that LDT deal is looking real good now. Dorsey is a machine

...one of the top 3 OGs in football. A dominant player.

This is like the third time I've seen someone compare the Doc's salary to a new deal while completely ignoring that he doesn't even sniff their level of play.

Red Dawg 03-09-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12776191)
Ah... fabricating. Gotcha.

It's in the Mane. They started it.

Red Dawg 03-09-2017 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12776204)
But... Campbell has family and is sentimental about growing up in Denver!

If Horseface had any class at all, he would have upped his offer to make this man's dream come true. Now he has to fester in Jacksonville with all that cash.

Right, Knowmo?

Tax free and has the beach.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12776208)
...one of the top 3 OGs in football. A dominant player.

This is like the third time I've seen someone compare the Doc's salary to a new deal while completely ignoring that he doesn't even sniff their level of play.

His level of plays doesn't compare but at least the level of the contracts has jumped up so fast that it's not a complete disaster.

ct 03-09-2017 02:24 PM

next up at qb for washington, jay cutler. the perfect man for that job.

"just send me the paycheck bruce, dont care bout nothing else"

ct 03-09-2017 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12776208)
...one of the top 3 OGs in football. A dominant player.

This is like the third time I've seen someone compare the Doc's salary to a new deal while completely ignoring that he doesn't even sniff their level of play.

or actually sniff their level of pay

until 2019, when again, he'll no longer sniff their level of pay

TambaBerry 03-09-2017 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12776208)
...one of the top 3 OGs in football. A dominant player.

This is like the third time I've seen someone compare the Doc's salary to a new deal while completely ignoring that he doesn't even sniff their level of play.

Oh I know how good he is, but when you're a garbage team that needs more help than oline you don't pay 12m/year for a ****ing guard

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 12776225)
or actually sniff their level of pay

until 2019, when again, he'll no longer sniff their level of pay

6 million in dead money if he's a Pre-June cut in 2019

ct 03-09-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12776233)
6 million in dead money if he's a Pre-June cut in 2019

I'd have rather signed Ron Leary for 4 - $35M personally

Quesadilla Joe 03-09-2017 02:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/839937960103530499">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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thabear04 03-09-2017 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776248)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/839937960103530499">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Wtf.

staylor26 03-09-2017 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776248)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/839937960103530499">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Romo is going to Houston

stumppy 03-09-2017 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12776251)
Romo is going to Houston

Yup

RunKC 03-09-2017 02:39 PM

Holy shit haha

Amnorix 03-09-2017 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12776227)
Oh I know how good he is, but when you're a garbage team that needs more help than oline you don't pay 12m/year for a ****ing guard

Completely disagree.

1. you gotta start somewhere. Winning in the trenches isn't a bad place at all for a bad team to start working on getting better. After all, where are you going to put the money? WR when you have no QB?

2. Browns have a STUPID amount of cap space, and a STUPID number of draft picks. They also need talent upgrades everywhere. It's increasingly hard to get good OL help from the draft due to the way the college game is changing. If you have a guy you think can really improve your OL, and crazy amounts of cap space, why not.

3. Due is 25 years old. 5 year deal makes perfect sense.

4. You're the ****ing Browns. You ain't getting no discounts, and you may have to overpay to get guys you want.

5. You're in the AFC North, known for brutal, punishing defenses, especially in the front 7. A good mauler on the OLine is pretty important.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 12776245)
I'd have rather signed Ron Leary for 4 - $35M personally

Hard to tell with him playing in the Oline in Dallas. He could have been propped up by everyone else. He's older as well.

I would have thought there would have been some kind of option other than paying a guard that much money.

Oh, well.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776248)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/839937960103530499">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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holy ****!!


LMAO

Cleveland, you morons

KC_Lee 03-09-2017 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776248)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/839937960103530499">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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So Houston gave a 2nd round pick and Osweiler to Browns for nothing more that to wipe a contract off their books?

Marcellus 03-09-2017 02:44 PM

What is Houston getting back in return?

KC_Lee 03-09-2017 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12776272)
What is Houston getting back in return?

That's my question.

Stinger 03-09-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12776248)
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So Cleveland got a QB and a second round pick for nothing??
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Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 12776267)
So Houston gave a 2nd round pick and Osweiler to Browns for nothing more that to wipe a contract off their books?

Yep, but it was a HUGE ass contract.


This frees Houston up to sign Romo and go about having a normal free agent period. They weren't going to be able to do all that with Osweilers anchor of a contract around their necks.

staylor26 03-09-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 12776278)
So Cleveland got a QB and a second round pick for nothing??
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To take on a contract. This is like an NBA trade.

The Franchise 03-09-2017 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12776272)
What is Houston getting back in return?

lol rid of that contract. That's it.

Amnorix 03-09-2017 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12776265)
holy ****!!


LMAO

Cleveland, you morons

Not really.

Cleveland gets -- Osweiler, Houston 2017 6th round pick and 2018 2nd round pick.

Houston gets -- Cleveland 2017 4th round pick, and gets rid of Oweiler's contract.


Cleveland, with MAMMOTH cap space, pays Osweiler for one year of his deal/salary and gets a 2nd round pick in a very deep draft out of it. NBA-style trade. Pretty smart.

Cleveland now has 2 1sts and 3 2nds in a draft everyone says is great. Plenty of ammo to trade for Garoppolo or whoever they want at QB. Osweiler doesn't solve the QB issue, as everyone knows.

Chief Northman 03-09-2017 02:49 PM

Cleveland probably releases Brock. Cap space out the ying yang. Add a 2nd round pick.

-King- 03-09-2017 02:51 PM

Bucs will win the NFC South. That offense will be amazing to watch
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Amnorix 03-09-2017 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12776309)
Cleveland probably releases Brock. Cap space out the ying yang. Add a 2nd round pick.


No. Brock's 2017 salary $16MM is fully guaranteed. So bottom line -- Cleveland spends $16MM to get a 2nd, and move back from 4 to 6. Seems pretty damn smart to me (if you have WAAY too much cap space).

Quote:

Brock Osweiler has two years to show the Houston Texans he’s worth the money it cost to lure him away from the Denver Broncos.

The four-year, $72 million contract quarterback Osweiler agreed to Wednesday will pay him $37 million in the first two years that is fully guaranteed for practical purposes.

According to contract details obtained by USA TODAY Sports, Osweiler will make $21 million in 2016 in the form of a $12 million signing bonus, $5 million roster bonus due this month and $4 million guaranteed base salary. His $16 million base salary in 2017 also is fully guaranteed.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ston/81563106/

staylor26 03-09-2017 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12776265)
holy ****!!


LMAO

Cleveland, you morons

:facepalm:

Amnorix 03-09-2017 02:53 PM

Note also the signing bonus acceleration is all on Houston's books, not Cleveland, so Cleveland -- once they cut Brock after 2017, will have no dead cap space and no acceleration.

Amnorix 03-09-2017 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix
Cleveland now has 2 1sts and 3 2nds in a draft everyone says is great. Plenty of ammo to trade for Garoppolo or whoever they want at QB. Osweiler doesn't solve the QB issue, as everyone knows.


Crap. 2nd rounder is next year, so not quite. But still, looking good for Cleveland:


Peter King‏Verified account @SI_PeterKing 4m4 minutes ago
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Browns picks in 1st 4 rounds
2017: 7.
2018: 7.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 02:58 PM

If Cleveland doesn't hit on these two draft, they never will.

Amnorix 03-09-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12776340)
If Cleveland doesn't hit on these two draft, they never will.


Yeah, pressure is on them to use all this draft capital wisely. they now have more ammo to trade for Garoppolo, or Romo, or whoever also if they want.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12776327)
Note also the signing bonus acceleration is all on Houston's books, not Cleveland, so Cleveland -- once they cut Brock after 2017, will have no dead cap space and no acceleration.

Didn't think about that part

That helps Cleveland out a lot.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 03:03 PM

**** Garrapolo. Draft your own player


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