Maybe Poes back is even more ****ed than we thought.

I'm kinda surprised nobody has stepped up and given Poe a deal based on potential...but I'm excited to see Logan play in this defense. Hopefully he can teach some tricks of the trade to Jones and the rest of the kids KC has.

I agree with Boss. Draft depth and create as much competetion as possible.

OLB-how often have we had injuries here?
QB
TE
CB
ILB
RB

Create as much competetion as possible and bolster this team up bc we all know that injuries **** us over every goddamn season.

According to AP, the NFLPA cap space report had us at $6.5M yesterday and now $7.5M today.... odd.

Must have been a restructure or two?

I want QB and pass rusher in that order of the first two picks this season.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/ has us at -$250k with all 71 contracts. If you include the rookie pool....we're $9M over.

I was not happy with letting Poe walk but as time goes on it really doesn't seem like much of a loss.

DJ has already come back from one achilles. An ACL/MCL is not the stamp of death it once was for a pass rusher.

Back problems for a DL are still a cross to bear as far as production goes and few have long careers afterwards...

I'd trust the NFLPA over an unaffiliated web site. They have a lot more inside info on contracts.

The Chiefs spent premium money on a NT for a one year deal? Why? It's not like he is the missing piece to make a Super Bowl run. You still have an anemic offense you have to address.

Seems like a waste.

1. Davis Webb Cal or Pat Mahomes TTU
2. Tyus Bowser OLB Houston
3. Matt Dayes RB NC State
3. Jordan Evans OU ILB OU

Jeremy Maclin's getting 12 mill this year.

He better be over his bout of AIDS. Otherwise he needs to get cut next year. He'll have 3 full seasons on his contract at that point, and the dead money should be negligible to the savings we'd see.

You and I both know paying any WR premium money with Aleve Smono around is a waste of cash.

We'll be lucky to get 1,000 yards out of J-Mac again.

This.

CP has always been hard on Ford. Remember, he was tearing it up lining up over the RT in place of Houston.

Also remember, he spent the entire off season preparing on that side in the absence of Houston.

ALSO remember, his play didn't fall off until he injured his hammy. Once he came back, he was splitting reps with Hali over the LT.

I'd like to see him get a offseason playing the same position he'd be playing in regular season games.

I think Ford will be fine.

What is Berry suppose to do to live up to the deal? Rarely do players meet or exceed the expectations of the fans when given a blockbuster contract.

I expect Berry to continue to be Berry and do as he's always done. I expect the dipshits around here to use the contract as a reason to rip Berry every time he makes a mistake. "Highest paid safety in the NFL HURDUR" as if star players don't **** up here and there.

Exactly. You give Alex a bunch of Donnie Averys, Dexter McClusters, and Anthony Fasanos, and he throws for 3200ish yards. You give him Jeremy Maclins and Travis Kelces, and he throws for 3200ish yards.

Draft some rookies, and in a cheap veteran or two, and the offense is the ****ing same.

You know that's how CP rolls daddio, as soon as Berry misses a tackle, or gets beat deep some dumbshit is going to scream about the money.

My favorites are where some of these non coaching, non playing, non scouting numbnuts try and tell everyone what Berry's assignment was supposed to be (with absolutely no insight to the matter whatsoever) and how he ****ed it up.

I think they will do exactly that next month, sir.

I believe when you get another hoss on that level they will be paid again at a decent amount. But no one strikes me at that level currently that is a fa.
They are becoming like FAs. Use and abuse on first contract then discard before the money escalates. Even easier if you have a franchise qb.

Do you think this is Maclin's last year in KC?

But, if you give him prime Rice, Megatron, Moss, and TO and he might end up cracking 3900. He might even break 25 TDs.

So they shouldn't address needs on defense because their offense isn't good?
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Eric has to play at the level he did in 2016 consistently through the contract to justify that kind of payday. I don't think that's unfair to say, either.
13m per is game changer type money.

And i expect he will. He always has, despite his detractors.

I don't expect that he'll have game winning pick-6's ala 2016, but Berry has been the same guy since landing in KC.

Sometimes splash plays present themselves and sometimes they don't. But he's been consistently good. Sometimes the only thing fans recognize as skill are big time interceptions. Berry brings much more to the table than interceptions though. Always has.

He was on another level in 2016 than he was in 2010-2015.

I think he was the best safety in the league last year where he was top 5-10 before that.

Jmo.

I think the more he grows into the role of playing in coverage more and being a playmaker...the more deadly this defense can be...to live up to that contract though, he needs to continue to ascend.

What good is a one year contract when the offense hasn't done anything to overcome its biggest problems?

You can do that with every position with the right qb

I don't know about ascending. Like you said he was great last year if he maintains that through the contract I will be happy. Like Detoxing said next year there may not be as many dramatic plays but its his over all play that is important. To me his position now is as important as a cb in pass defense.

2016 will probably be his best year of his career.

I don't know how you ascend from the year he had. Literally carried this team to wins from the safety position because well you know why.

If he can replicate that hats off to him, he will still be the best safety in the league but it's hard to take over games on a consistent basis when you are playing a defensive position.. Only a handful of a guys I've seen currently that can do it, Watt, Houston, Von, Berry and they go so hard that they almost look like they get burnt out from doing too much. Got to see Houston do it for 1 game last year before his body gave out. He was the best player in that stadium and it wasn't close. And then that was it lol. It's so hard to carry a game if you're not a QB.

Gona be nice to have an actual run stuffer in this defense along the DL.

8 million sure isn't "premium" in today's NFL. Stop living in the 90s.

Draft a ****ing QB then. This move doesn't prevent that. The run D was ****ing garbage last year and he's one of the best in the league at stopping the run. Great signing.

http://overthecap.com/position/3-4-d...e-tackle/2016/

Premium.

http://i.imgur.com/i44YxSH.jpg

You pay for good talent. He's a good player dude. Eagles fans miss him already. Better than all the list save William's and Dareus anyway.

There's no way he's the 2nd best 3-4 DT in football.

#32 run D

He's third on that list. Watch more games, son.

3.7 YPC his first two years before that clown Chip ruined the defense

Looks like Dorsey got tired of teams running all over his defense.
Great Move.

How is it a great move when it is a one year deal? You still have a poor offense.

So I've been thinking and I actually have some hope that Logan's shortcomings as a player can be smoothed out in the transition back to a 3-4. For one very big reason.

Britt Reid.

Dorsey's got a great staff and a decent eye for talent, but there's just no way you're going to say to my face that he's THIS good at nosing around in garbage and finding talent that plays ABOVE their expectations like this.

RNR was a 6th round pick who was cut and then brought back. Kendall Reyes and Jarvis Jones were trash heap signings. If Reyes and Jones especially had the kind of potential to play like they did for us on their old teams, they never would have been available like this.

There's talent evaluation, but then there's coaching and finding ways that guys can be useful. I think Britt Reid has demonstrated in his time on this staff that he knows just about every way to make defensive linemen have the most success that they possibly can on this team.

He's why the only reason I'm pissed about this signing is because Dorsey didn't dive deeper into the dumpster to find a replacement and then supplement the addition with a draft pick (perhaps with a guy like Saccopoo's boy Lotululei in the 3rd round).

What the hell should they have done? You get what you can get when you can get it. You don't wait to upgrade a position just because you haven't upgraded the other. That literally makes no sense.
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You're exactly right. They should not look to upgrade any other areas until we are the number 1 offense in the league.

It's very cool watching him work. Even with him being very small in stature, he commands respect and coaches by teaching specifics very effectively.

I was impressed by him at training camp.

Gonna be interesting to see who steps up next year on the DL... Howard and Bailey back in the mix ...to go along with Jones after the type of jump DL make from year 1 to year 2...Roches improvement...Logan stuffing the run and helping to force more third and long situations (possibly even more turnovers for the defense)..I'm looking forward to seeing who steps up.

Lots of guys fighting for just a few contracts.

DING - D!ING - DING !! Give this man a beer!! :toast:

who needs nostawhatshisname?

we have PESTLINCE!! PBJ PBJ PBJ PBJ PBJ PBJ

:harumph:

Who the **** is Pestlince?

Stop trying to ride Pesty's coat tails.

Not sure if posted but wow

He turned down more $$ per year.

He seems like a player that wants to win more than anything... at least in the regular season.

Seems like he thought he could get more money in the open market and bet wrong/Clay

Probably thinks he could make more money after having a big year in a system that suits his skillset. I look forward to it.

He says that's bullshit
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/3...-big-extension

This pretty much explains the upgrade Logan will provide over.

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Man...Poe was about 350 lbs and Hudson is barely 300 and he took him right out of his gap exposing the middle.

Logan is going to help here big time.

Does Chris Jones ever lose a 1-on-1?

Poe helped Hudson out by moving to his left... Still I think Logan is a upgrade

Yea I think people are really underestimating the impact Logan will have on our run d.

Logan will be an upgrade. I like Poe but he was dog shit last year.

Who makes up for Poe's offensive output. I don't think Alice can account for the extra 2-3 td's.

Roches is dogshit

That's a little harsh don't you think? He's great for depth and a good teammate.

Dumbass

Logan has been a little bit of a dissapointment but let’s not pretend he sucks and we shouldn’t bring him back on a better deal.

Must’ve hurt your feelings calling you out for your stupid ass evaluation of Ragland to bring this random shit up.

No, they should not. He can be replaced without spending a top draft choice.

I look forward to Ragland leading our 31st ranked defense in tackles. Logan and Mitchell will turn this ship around because you said so.

I miss Poe. You noticed him out there.