Draft two and roll with a rookie, Ward and Fuller.

I'd keep an eye on Jonathan Jones, if the Pats were to let him go.

Pj Williams or Justin Coleman is another couple of lowkey guys that could work out.

He doesn’t. He’s not very good either, but to say he sucks is a reach. Guys that suck don’t get paid like he’s about to this offseason.

It’s amazing that some of you look at everything so black and white.

Nelson is a good player.

He is far from a shutdown corner but for a few millions per season, I would have kept him.

He's not a bad player, but he's basically a guy you can get in the 3rd round of every draft every year.

He's going to get a lot more than a "few million" this offseason.

He's going to get a lot more than he's actually worth because the market isn't great.

I would say he's clearly better than your average 3rd round CB.

He was another good pick by John Dorsey.

Agreed. He was better than your average 3rd round corner AND he'd gone through the 2-3 year development curve you usually see with guys like that any way.

Corner's not an easy position for guys to pick up immediately, especially not guys who aren't physically ahead of anyone anymore. Nelson was probably a top 15% athlete in college and fell immediately into the bottom tiers among his piers when he got to the pros. That's a massive adjustment and one that many mid-round corners simply never make.

I think there's a pretty good chance that, unless we throw a 1st round pick at the position, the guy that replaces Nelson next season will be worse than he is. And frankly, even if we do use a 1 on a CB, the odds are still long that he's better than Nelson was last season in year 1.

But it's almost certainly the route we have go. The Chiefs can't afford to bring Nelson back at anything approximating his market value. Given his physical limitations, I'm not sure they should even if they COULD get him at the Sorensen rate (which would likely represent a massive discount over what he'll get in the market).

Still shaking my head at how badly he got roasted by Dorsett on that long TD. That was just awful.

I’m thinking they find a safety in FA, draft CBs and DL early...

That's Nelson in a nutshell though. Locks it down for 3 quarters and then gives up the biggest play of the game, although usually it's a PI penalty more often than not.

He's not bad. But it's really hard to argue, in a league that is so much about big plays, that he's "good". He's just way too streaky. He has physical limitations as you mentioned and he doesn't have the best technique either in trail (he NEVER looks for the ball).

The bottom line is that somebody out there is going to pay him A LOT more than he's actually worth this offseason.

He's a 4th CB, with his ceiling being a #3 on a decent defense.

Like I said like 6 months ago.

And a bunch of you claimed I knew nothing about football.

He's gonna get paid like a legit #2, but he they're not going to dig what they get for their money. I only hope The Raiders or Broncos sign him.

I thought Nelson looked pretty good early in the season but he must be the worst deep ball corner I've ever seen.

Even worse than Gaines.

It said a lot to me when during the Jaguars game they KEPT going after Nelson down field. And then the announcers said that in meetings the Jacksonville staff said they liked those matchups down the field.

Nelson has zero ball skills on deep routes, which is really bad when you lack long speed like he does.

Steven Nelson is a #2 CB all day.

Maybe on a bad team or a team that plays a ton of nickel and can play him inside. He's overmatched on the outside.

Just seen this list where he is rated to have had a better year than Jalen Ramsey lol: https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...he-nfl-in-2018

He is a good player I am telling you. You will get frustrated at times with him allowing long catches or getting a penalty but as I said, he is a #2 CB all day, and probably easily.

Stats speak for themselves.

I wouldn't have a problem having him as a 2/3 guy. He's not a top end corner.

Not at the money he's likely to demand. I'd rather have more consistency for that kind of money.

This FA group of corners is extremely thin. Nelson is going to cash in on the supply and demand aspect and the team that signs him will likely never get their money’s worth.

He’s a nickel corner. Doesn’t have the skill set to play outside.

But somebody will pay him like an outside guy.

You believe there are ninety corners in this league better than Steven Nelson?

Man, you really need to take a look at the state of CB play in this league. I don't think you could get even close to 60 CBs in football that are better than him.

He will be the 2nd best corner on probably half the teams in the league. And yes, that's an indictment on the state of CBs in the league more than it is a testament to Steven Nelson's skill. CB is just pretty nasty out there right now. Part of it is due to the rules but part of it is, IMO, just the fact that more guys with the skill to play CB and gravitating towards other positions or even other sports. If you're 6'2'', 200 lbs and run like a deer, you're probably looking to play WR and that's IF you couldn't develop a consistent left-hand dribble or 24 footer.

It's just a rough time for the position around the league right now.

I’ve already been over this with him, or at least I think it was him.

Somebody that was calling Nelson a #4 didn’t think it meant that they were saying exactly this.

LMAO

Did you guys know that it is customary on Nelson Island for one man to grab the back of another mans jersey. Then the first man drags the second man all over the island and catches footballs thrown to him. Every so often the man being dragged will knock a football away then dance, claiming victory. But unfortunately for the dancing male a person watching this exchange shows up and throws a yellow towel at the dancing man.

So what you guys are saying is he has a case of “Mighty Mouse” in him.

Oh goodness those were some bad times, lol.

Lowkey?

I don't believe there are 90 good corners PERIOD. I don't think Nelson is anything other than at best a slot corner on a good defense. You can trot him out there wherever you like on a shit defense. Like we did.

All of this, 100%

The guy simply isn't starting material

3-4 CB? sure, but putting him out there as a starter is a no-go... he lacks top end skill, period

Didn't know where to post this so I thought I'd stick it here.
Had a FB friend post that they had Nelson as a client in thier salon a couple of weeks ago. I thought WTF is he doing in Wichita? This was posted on her page today:

"Not some cheesy copy cat post. PLEASE SHARE

**if you watched my Steven nelson post read this**
**if you are a woman that works alone in wichita read this**

There is a man that looks exactly like and claims to be the chiefs player Steven nelson going to different salons and realtors (specifically places that younger women work alone) hes charming and believable and yes I feel like an idiot but no its not Steven nelson and no I don't know what his intentions are but I can only assume that they arent good.

Ladies keep an eye out. If anything similar happens to you call the cops.

I'm going to go to great lengths to make sure my business is safe but I want the word out so no one gets hurt, and i havent heard or seen the man since the 23rd."

She's a cutie and no pics available.

That's super vague.

Did he try to force himself on her? Banged her under the guise of being an NFL player then never talked to her again?

Evidently there is somebody in Wichita pretending to be him, here are two replies to the post quoted:

"Made an appointment January 18th at the spa I work at but never showed up. It was his "agent" that called. The caller ID said Michael Love I believe."

and from another person:

"2 of my girls have worked on him. He gave off a very strange vibe. Was going to call the cops yesterday after seeing a post about this but he no showed for his appointment. Caller ID said Michael Love. We have camera footage of him but it's very blurry."
This person also posted the pic and yeah it's very blurry.

That's a pretty good scam. I wouldn't know Steven Nelson if he sat next to me on a plane.

Should we change thread title to "The myth that steve Nelson rapes" ?

So someone is arguing with me about Nelson, saying hes one of the best corners in the league, gets better every year ...am I missing something? Did my eyes deceive me all year? I think I'm going to the doctor tomorrow if that's the case

Was it staylor?

Yea because me saying he doesn’t suck somehow means he’s one of the best corners in the league.

I don't think I've ever seen someone drop more bread-basket INT's than Steve Nelson this past season. Let him go drop INT's somewhere else.

He also has Bill Bartee disease...that shit's for the birds, man.

You're so sensitive. You take shit way too seriously.

We need more length on the outside at CB. Nelson is more of a slot cover guy and Fuller starred in that role in Washington. We have them both on the outside. :banghead:

LMAO You're one to talk. All I've ever seen you do is whine like a bitch.

lol yea I’m so outraged :rolleyes:

It was S Taylor

Impersonating Nelson? Lol

If they institute a rule where they can review PI calls Nelson and which ever team he plays for are screwed.