Tyreek Hill

“Oh but that was before NFL and he didn’t lie”

Chargers

No, I don’t think it’s the only reason why necessarily. I just think Hill being on the roster almost makes it a necessity that they say it was largely due to ‘lies’ that they decided to immediately cut him.

This sucks. The Chiefs lost tonight, and Kareem Hunt lost the most.

I also think there's a bunch of outside factors, too.

Redskins are getting flack for claiming Foster(as they should). Any team after the Ray Rice ordeal is going to look horrible if they keep someone on the roster with domestic violence associated with their name.

Don't disagree and that part that bothers me the most is the fact that the police had the video and didn't arrest him or prosecute him. While you and I might disagree about whether it was an assault or not the police after assessing the situation felt it was just a bunch of drunks getting in an argument.

To me that should be the end of it.

There was nothing done by the media because it was a non-story without this tape. There was no police report, she wasn't cooperating. The tape is the smoking gun and I frankly don't give a shit he lied to the team. I care that he had tons of chances to get the **** out of that situation and didn't and did what he did.

Chiefs did not lose. We weren’t going to retain Hunt anyways. Ware is a better blocker and receiver. We have Mahomes. We rarely run the ball anyways. As long as we have Mahomes we will be in every game

ROFL

We’d still have had Hunt for 2-3 more years probably. He’s a better receiver than Ware.

We lost tonight.

I'm not shocked someone that's clearly disturbed in their own right can't understand the difference between Hunt and Hill's situations.

There was another incident with Hunt in June punching a dude.

Agreed... If he wasn't an NFL player, he would be in jail.

We have no idea what environment KH was raised in, it might have been normal for him to be exposed to violence against women. It doesn't make it right. I think that unless we have been in the situation of a professional athlete, it's really difficult to comprehend what their life has been like from high school, college and beyond. Not making excuses for him however we really have no idea what it's been like to live in his shoes.

I hope he gets the help he apparently needs.

Hunt is an unreal football player but an asshole human being. He deserved to be cut. End of ****ing story.

Stats prove that Ware is a better receiver. Now as a runner we need the Ware pre ACL injury where he was literally putting defenders on IR

Wut?:spock:


Why would they do that?

He lied to the team!

JFC another dumbshit on full display.

If Kareem Hunt was completely honest with the Chiefs from the beginning about what happened, as Tyreek Hill’s situation shows, they probably would have given him a second chance.

Hill got a second chance and has been a success story... on/off the field.

Kareem Hunt was dishonest and apparently has had other altercations since the February incident.

I understand Hunt, from the Chiefs perspective, lied to the team.

But how can a team that cut Hunt still employ Hill?

Ware is a better receiver than Hunt?

Lying is held to a higher standard than domestic violence.

If Hunt tells the truth he's still on this team until his rookie deal runs out. Even with the video. Because he would have been punished accordingly and that would've been that.

This all happened at 3:45 am, "Nothing good happens after midnight"

The police had the tape though so if they deemed it not worthy then that really should be the end.

Because Hill was truthful. Because Hill stays home, takes care of his kid and plays Fortnite. Hill hasn’t been a repeat offender.

I wish these guys had the sense to walk away from drama.

It’s the easiest thing in the world to do. Well, it is for me, anyway.

You very well may be right, we’ll probably never know the full truth (like with Peters).

But the point still stands that this is a huge steaming dump on the chest of Chiefs Kingdom.

Which makes the police in that situation awful too. It's definitely a chargeable offense. I don't know how you could argue otherwise.

No, but lying about your assault of a 19 year old girl shows you really aren't all that remorseful about it and would rather cover your own ass, thus making you undeserving of a 2nd chance.

How many times has Hill been in trouble as an employee of the Kansas City Chiefs?

They gave Hill a second chance and he took advantage of it. They did much the same thing with Hunt (who had a couple of issues in college) and he proceeded to get in trouble while employed by the team.

It's really not hard to see the difference between the two.

Ware: 53 receptions 617 yards and 11.6 yards per catch

Hunt: 79 receptions 833 yards and 10.5 yards per catch

It should have been but we all know that's not how things work.

100% correct.

Hunt is an idiot from being there in the first place to being dragged away at the end.

Anything the drunk girl said doesn't matter.

She could have called his mom every name in the book and Khunt should have known that she was baiting his dumb ass.

They have a rookie symposium every ****ing year to teach these guys to avoid EXACTLY these types of situations.

But Khunt is a ****ing dumbass who took ALL the bait :

1. Party bus with alcohol
2. Hanging with other random people that you don't know well
3. Party in a hotel room
4. Fight spills out into public + into camera view
5. Drunk girl gets the best of pro afflete by n-wording at pro afflete.

Khunt is a walking cliché of when keeping it real goes wrong.

Ever seen those clips on Chappelle's Show?

He needs to make a new one starring Khunt..

Yep.

Yet the NFL and the Chiefs can't get access? :rolleyes:

What is puzzling is at the time, they obviously deferred to the Police that a crime hadn't been committed, even WITH the video.

:shake:

Because one wasn't an employee of the team when he did what he did. He agreed to the rehabilitation, he agreed to the counseling and he hasn't done it again.

I think some guys on here think Clark takes joy in cutting really good players for making horrific decisions. I can't understand how Clark Hunt in anyway should be painted as the villain here.

There is a big difference here... Vick and Hill had already paid their dues and were 2 years out or more without any further incidence. Both, have been excellent citizens since being either cut, with Vick by the Falcons, or dismissed with Hill at OKST. They were given second chances by Reed with a short leash, and both met and continue to meet that obligation.

Hunt, it hurts to lose him, but look at the Chiefs situation. It sound like he lied to them after this event in February and then he gets into another incident in June when he punched a guy in the face. This was the last straw after I'm sure they told him so this Summer...

Hunt will get another shot, if he becomes a good citizen and pays his dues, just not with the Chiefs as Hill and Vick did with other teams.

This makes me laugh every time.

When it comes to assault, one party must agree to press charges. If neither party wants to press charges the only other option (at least in Colorado) is a mutual combat charge which is a class 1 petty offense. Basically a speeding ticket. The state cannot assume the role of victim in an assault.

Exactly... Because the person with the most to lose always loses the most.

I have some friends that I am still trying to get to understand that it takes the bigger man to walk away.

Because hunt lied is all I keep getting..... So if it come out Hunt didn’t lie (has no way of showing this I guess)

Then your own argument is shit. You are relying on people who are fighting a PR battle, but yeah let’s trust the NFL and Chief didn’t have access to a tape that the authorities had

This is essentially what Mahomes does as well!! We need to draft players who love fortnite!!

Because winning football games is more important than anything else. There really wasn't much of a choice here. The NFL and the Chiefs should have taken care of this in February when it happened. They didn't and now, with the video, they had to act. It sucks but what alternative is there? The number of people that think he should never play football again FAR outweigh the number of people that think what he did was no big deal.

What if the full video is released and it show her striking him multiple time before he hit back....

I dn

I just really believe releasing him was a mistake

I'll say it again. You're a ****ing lunatic.

^this^

I could be scrappy in college if challenged at a bar. Once I got out of college and had a job, I realized that I wouldn't have a job if I was arrested, therefore, I would defuse any situation and walk away... I had too much to lose.

NO.


HIT.


WOMEN.


NO.

HIT.

ANYONE!


WHY SO HARD FOR TO UNDERSTAND!??

not a turnover machine... wasn't injury prone.. great reciever.. runner.. "THERE HE GOESSSSS"

but of course it was too good

100% agree. People miss the fact that this is a BUSINESS. I’ll say it again, if you were ceo or boss, khunt is fired every day of the week.

Your side of the argument is no less emotional. You've chosen to believe that Hunt didn't lie and the Chiefs are just doing this to save face.

That's certainly possible. It's also possible that the Chiefs simply won't condone being lied to and cut him because of it.

We'll never actually know the truth. The only thing left is to jump to conclusions, which you have clearly done just as those you are accusing.

Because it makes your favorite team worse. At some point, look in the mirror and admit you're a shitty person too.

Do I wish Kareem Hunt didn't do that? Of course. But like anyone who isn't a pro athlete in that situation, it wouldn't have taken 10 months for me to be fired for it.

So you believe the NFL actually saw that video and decided to cover it up instead of suspending Hunt, even though they throw out multi game suspensions based on questionable accusations and heresay? NFL would be really ****ing stupid if that's what they did.

TMZ has a history of doing shady shit to get videos.

The shooting at the Fort Lauderdale Airport a few years ago, a police officer was arrested for illegally leaking a video of the shooting to TMZ that they released to the public.

We are only seeing part of what happened, they had the video and investigated the incident along with interviewing the parties involved and decided not to do anything with it. It then was turned over to the prosecutor and they didn't do anything with it either.

This is completely different than Ray Rice where he was actually charged and knocked his woman out and drug her out of the elevator.

Yep.

What the hell??

I can't disagree, but I have to trust the Chiefs know more about what they were dealing with...

They were right with Peters, and after the incidents with Hunt in February and again in June, I'm sure they believe they are right again...

If he won't press and she won't press the police are handcuffed.

I think the easy thing for Clark to do would have been sit on his thumbs while the league reviews everything.

Clark took the much tougher route but the right one. His football team that has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations is now worse because of this and he did it anyway. He stands to lose a lot in this situation as well for something he didn't create.

It's definitely not Ray Rice. I agree. However, it's still bad.

The NFL doesn't have due process.

Goodell is judge, jury, and executioner. And he says Khunt is guilty.

End of discussion.

I was totally on the other side of the fence from the above earlier today. I thought if she called him the N-word and slapped him in the face, and he made a flailing kick attempt at the end that he would get a stiff suspension and rehab. When I got home and turned on the non-sport news channels and see how this was being portrayed, I knew he was probably going to be history... Sucks, but it's no one else's fault but his own...

If Hunt is being cut because he lied to the Chiefs he'll be signed within a week.

The Chiefs had no choice when this blew up on Twitter. Kareem Hunt would become a major distraction. There would have been a media circus. People protesting. Presidential tweets etc.

Saw this on Facebook - didn't take them long did it.

https://i.imgur.com/uXmrdwQh.jpg

It's about the same because the video shows them both making incredibly stupid decisions.

:rolleyes:

This is why I was so mad earlier today - this should have been dealt with MONTHS AGO, when it happened.

There was nowhere to go once the video dropped - he was going to either be suspended or cut because the pitchforks and torches won't settle for anything less.

It just sucks all the way around.

Both made awful decisions. I thought one was far more brutal than the other.

hes not facing criminal charges. What happened to him would have happened to me by every employer I’ve ever worked for.

****ing dumb to release him.

We literally drafted hill, who I love on the team but he did worse.
Then if I am hunt I am meeting with the Pat's or Steelers to sign after extension then give info on the chiefs.

Stupid, just wait until the NFL finished investigation.

Maybe we're reaching the point in society where it's not okay to react violently to a word?

I'm pretty sure that it wasn't just the Chiefs that decided to release him. The NFL is not a group of 32 teams, it is a single entity and will do what is in it's own best interest.

All he has to do is apologize and have some therapy. He is too talented to be out of work for long.

Endeavor to persevere.

Yep, if the Chiefs rolled with what Hunt said, they're flaming ****ing morons.

If they did their diligence and tried to sit on it and hope it blows over they are chicken shit.

after you trend #1 on Twitter for hours for kicking a women, your radioactive. Probably over 100 million people saw this story today.

Maybe if a couple dudes had pulled RR off his wife before he knocked her out cold, it wouldn't have appeared as brutal...

I'm sure Khunt would have knocked the drunk mouthy white girl out with one punch if he hadn't been restrained.

Otherwise, why even go after her?

He's a ****ing punk.

no choice. Hunt was and would have been a major distraction whether he’s in the locker room or not.

We should start giving 27 to scrubs. I'm tired of 27 being both:

1. Good.
2. In trouble.

1) Don't hit girls.
2) Don't lie to your employer.

No team is going to sign a guy with this kind of pr baggage who won't play this year and would likely be suspended indefinitely into next year.

The fact that the people involved did not jump at the chance when the NFL came a calling makes it appear they knew they were in the wrong...especially in today's cultural climate.

Clark should have let the process play out.. Hunt wasn't playing in the near future anyway.