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staylor26 02-12-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102817)
Bro this Marty Mac guy called this a couple days ago. I now believe in whatever he says

Is that the guy that called the Watkins deal? He’s also saying we will get Earl Thomas so hopefully you’re right.

Sassy Squatch 02-12-2019 08:33 AM

That's a hell of a lot of fuss to make for a LB coach... Better give him that assistant title like Richard has so no one can poach him before he becomes DC.

Sassy Squatch 02-12-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14102823)
Is that the guy that called the Watkins deal? He’s also saying we will get Earl Thomas so hopefully you’re right.

No. 2 different guys. Redmamba707 had the Watkins signing

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14102823)
Is that the guy that called the Watkins deal? He’s also saying we will get Earl Thomas so hopefully you’re right.

I believe he’s the guy. He called Emmitt Thomas retiring a couple weeks ago too. Yesterday it was confirmed. He must know someone in the front office. Or maybe it’s Veach burner account

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:35 AM

Did House and Spiller go to the same school?

Sure-Oz 02-12-2019 08:36 AM

Awesome news

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-12-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102827)
I believe he’s the guy. He called Emmitt Thomas retiring a couple weeks ago too. Yesterday it was confirmed. He must know someone in the front office. Or maybe it’s Veach burner account

Or maybe he just stuff that is obvious lol. Thomas is old so of course there is a chance he would hang them up. House leaked all that stuff about Kentucky saying no. So of course the chiefs would make a run at him. This stuff is called captain Obvious

BigRedChief 02-12-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 14102800)
It's a no-brainer for him. I'm sure he was basically told he'd be the DC-in-waiting and once that happens, we all know what happens to Andy Reid disciples.

I don't know about that. Allen from the Pats might have that claim too.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14102835)
I don't know about that. Allen from the Pats might have that claim too.

You mean Daly?

BigRedChief 02-12-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14102825)
That's a hell of a lot of fuss to make for a LB coach... Better give him that assistant title like Richard has so no one can poach him before he becomes DC.

Have you looked at his resume? What and who he worked with? Every stop players got way way better. Former players love him. He will be a fantastic DC in the NFL and a head coach.

Sassy Squatch 02-12-2019 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14102837)
Have you looked at his resume? What and who he worked with? Every stop players got way way better. Former players love him. He will be a fantastic DC in the NFL and a head coach.

I know. Clearly we have big plans for him.

BigRedChief 02-12-2019 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102836)
You mean Daly?

Of course. Brain fart.... happens a lot when you get old....:)

TwistedChief 02-12-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14102803)
I have wood.

Whether or not we accomplish it, I respect this immensely if it is true. I'm sick and tired of "nice Chiefs", and I hope Clark is too.

SHOW NO MERCY!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I tend to think we’re already beginning to see the Mahomes effect on defensive side of the football. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are a Super Bowl contender and (arguably) got two NFL DC candidates—Brendan Daly and Matt House—as position coaches. KC is a destination. Free agency shaping up to be fun.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1095333116611362816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Mahomes Effect!!

BigRedChief 02-12-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14102839)
I know. Clearly we have big plans for him.

Everyone, at least on here, agree that if we can just get the defense up to the middle of the pack, we are going to win the Super Bowl. Getting the defensive coaching talent we already have in place now, adding better players through the draft and FA this off season should get us there. :clap:

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14102850)
SHOW NO MERCY!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL

After Clark watched the Hunt trophy go to the Pats in Arrowhead. I believe Clark said enough is enough. I’m going balls deep and owning the league for the next 20 years!!

Sassy Squatch 02-12-2019 08:50 AM

So this was all about the Chiefs not wanting to pay his 150k buyout, at least according to some UK folks. LMAO Gotta save for that 200m Mahomes contract, I guess.

RunKC 02-12-2019 08:50 AM

Mentioned this in the Spags thread that coaching is so crucial. Man oh man am I jacked! This is a great hire and I’m loving the defensive staff overall.

The Chiefs don’t need to splurge on big names for talent anymore. You can let Houston walk and sign guys who fit this defense and are coachable.

Just like the Patriots have done with Belichick.

arrowheadnation 02-12-2019 08:51 AM

The Chiefs are a destination....wow. It's just so hard to grasp.

NOW FETCH ME EARL THOMAS!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l8WWd19Ok1c/hqdefault.jpg

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:52 AM

If House can turn Hitchens and Ragland into actual linebackers then we already just got two huge FA additions!

O.city 02-12-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14102861)
Mentioned this in the Spags thread that coaching is so crucial. Man oh man am I jacked! This is a great hire and I’m loving the defensive staff overall.

The Chiefs don’t need to splurge on big names for talent anymore. You can let Houston walk and sign guys who fit this defense and are coachable.

Just like the Patriots have done with Belichick.

I'm guessing they'll end up keeping him and re structuring the deal a little.

If they think they're close, they may want to keep everyone on board they can.

BigRedChief 02-12-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102851)
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The Mahomes Effect!!

**** that feels good. PBJ<iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.5b0c4d3ea3997aa2c22eac39be510646.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com&setting sEndpoint=https%3A%2F%2Fsyndication.twitter.com%2Fsettings" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: medium none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe" frameborder="0"></iframe>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 14102865)
The Chiefs are a destination....wow. It's just so hard to grasp.

NOW FETCH ME EARL THOMAS!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l8WWd19Ok1c/hqdefault.jpg

I prefer Landon Collins. Younger and isnt coming off of injury

bowener 02-12-2019 08:53 AM

**** yes they got it done.

Here is my prediction if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl next season:

Spags moves on to be HC of the Jags or Buffalo Bills.

House promoted to DC for the next 4 seasons, gaining Asst. Head Coach moniker after in year two of DC job.

Bienemy will move on to coach the Carolina Panthers. Chiefs will promote from within for every OC change.

Andy retires in 5 seasons and has won 3 rings.

House promoted to HC. Defensive minded coach paired with the ultimate offensive weapon will be great. Mahomes will be at peak Manning ability here and able to call his own plays during the game.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14102873)
**** yes they got it done.

Here is my prediction if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl next season:

Spags moves on to be HC of the Jags or Buffalo Bills.

House promoted to DC for the next 4 seasons, gaining Asst. Head Coach moniker after in year two of DC job.

Bienemy will move on to coach the Carolina Panthers. Chiefs will promote from within for every OC change.

Andy retires in 5 seasons and has won 3 rings.

House promoted to HC. Defensive minded coach paired with the ultimate offensive weapon will be great. Mahomes will be at peak Manning ability here and able to call his own plays during the game.

Nah. Wishful thinking but Kafka is the head coach in waiting

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-12-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14102850)
SHOW NO MERCY!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL

You can't. And that's the point I'm trying to get across to you. You have to be a tough, cutthroat sonofoabitch at ALL levels in this league to REALLY succeed. I'm not trying to tell you that it's 100% right in correlation to how we live our own lives as fans, I'm just telling you what it is.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14102861)
Mentioned this in the Spags thread that coaching is so crucial. Man oh man am I jacked! This is a great hire and I’m loving the defensive staff overall.

The Chiefs don’t need to splurge on big names for talent anymore. You can let Houston walk and sign guys who fit this defense and are coachable.

Just like the Patriots have done with Belichick.

This, this, this, and MOAR THIS. I mean goddamnit; BB has been writing the book on this shit for DECADES and hardly no one wanted to read it. Well, the guys who are running this team( ownership/HC )finally ****ing DID, and now we're gonna' launch like an ether-based cocaine rocket to the next and final frontier! :D

This is the greatest news we've had since acquiring Mahomes even if some fans don't understand why just yet. I mean, I had to compose myself for a minute and keep from reaching for the Kleenex because I KNOW what this means!

Just unbelievable. If you aren't JACKED about this team and franchise right now, you aren't pumping blood.

Another bonus: having Daly and House simultaneously sets a NICE competitive environment and scenario for the DC job one Spags decides to step down.

GREAT job, Chiefs. Nothing but respect to you.

TEX 02-12-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102868)
If House can turn Hitchens and Ragland into actual linebackers then we already just got two huge FA additions!

I think Hitchens will improve. Ragland is damaged goods and broke beyond any fixing.

UChieffyBugger 02-12-2019 09:18 AM

The only one left standing is Al Harris right? Does he survive though?

htismaqe 02-12-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14102890)
I think Hitchens will improve. Ragland is damaged goods and broke beyond any fixing.

This.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14102893)
The only one left standing is Al Harris right? Does he survive though?

Britt Reid

SAUTO 02-12-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14102803)
I have wood.

Whether or not we accomplish it, I respect this immensely if it is true. I'm sick and tired of "nice Chiefs", and I hope Clark is too.

no more "nice chiefs"?

they just paid the buyout. they didnt do anything else...

The Franchise 02-12-2019 09:35 AM

**** yeah. This defensive staff is shaping up to be a strength now.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 09:36 AM

Bucs released Vinny Curry. Could he be a thought or would Speaks fit right in. Speaking of DE. Do we have a DE coach or is that part of the D Line coaches job

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-12-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102912)
Bucs released Vinny Curry. Could he be a thought or would Speaks fit right in. Speaking of DE. Do we have a DE coach or is that part of the D Line coaches job

That'll be d-line

SAUTO 02-12-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14102859)
So this was all about the Chiefs not wanting to pay his 150k buyout, at least according to some UK folks. LMAO Gotta save for that 200m Mahomes contract, I guess.

well that could be somewhat true.

the prior reports were saying that house and uk were going to NEGOTIATE a buyout, which sounds as though they (or house) didnt want to pay the full amount that was already written into his UK contract

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-12-2019 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14102910)
no more "nice chiefs"?

they just paid the buyout. they didnt do anything else...

It's the principle. And the principle has clearly changed. Don't worry; MUCH more to come!

htismaqe 02-12-2019 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102905)
Britt Reid

He won't be the DL coach since they hired Daly for that job.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-12-2019 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102912)
Bucs released Vinny Curry. Could he be a thought or would Speaks fit right in. Speaking of DE. Do we have a DE coach or is that part of the D Line coaches job

I do think speaks will fit this defense really well. I think the saves some hope for Tanoh also. Taking guys back to their natural positions and body types. Need to let them regain the weight they were asked to lose.

KCUnited 02-12-2019 09:38 AM

God bless Kansas City Chiefs football.

SAUTO 02-12-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14102887)
You can't. And that's the point I'm trying to get across to you. You have to be a tough, cutthroat sonofoabitch at ALL levels in this league to REALLY succeed. I'm not trying to tell you that it's 100% right in correlation to how we live our own lives as fans, I'm just telling you what it is.



This, this, this, and MOAR THIS. I mean goddamnit; BB has been writing the book on this shit for DECADES and hardly no one wanted to read it. Well, the guys who are running this team( ownership/HC )finally ****ing DID, and now we're gonna' launch like an ether-based cocaine rocket to the next and final frontier! :D

This is the greatest news we've had since acquiring Mahomes even if some fans don't understand why just yet. I mean, I had to compose myself for a minute and keep from reaching for the Kleenex because I KNOW what this means!

Just unbelievable. If you aren't JACKED about this team and franchise right now, you aren't pumping blood.

Another bonus: having Daly and House simultaneously sets a NICE competitive environment and scenario for the DC job one Spags decides to step down.

GREAT job, Chiefs. Nothing but respect to you.

dude... someone just paid the buyout clause thats in his uk contract.

nothing cutthroat about that.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 09:40 AM

I hope CB is the pick for our first round pick

suzzer99 02-12-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14102790)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New: Cats Illustrated has learned that the Kansas City Chiefs are still interested in adding UK defensive coordinator Matt House to their staff and they are being more aggressive in Round 2 <a href="https://t.co/pVlYWn0mhN">https://t.co/pVlYWn0mhN</a></p>&mdash; Justin Rowland (@RowlandRIVALS) <a href="https://twitter.com/RowlandRIVALS/status/1095319010827292672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Gonna need to hear from Cat Fancy before it's confirmed.

dirk digler 02-12-2019 09:43 AM

that is awesome news and **** UK

chiefforlife 02-12-2019 09:43 AM

Yes, I want to see something official. Somewhere?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 14102931)
Yes, I want to see something official. Somewhere?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So it&#39;s official this time.... UK confirms defensive coordinator Matt House leaving for the Kansas City Chiefs. <a href="https://twitter.com/WHAS11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WHAS11</a></p>&mdash; Kent Spencer (@WHAS11Kent) <a href="https://twitter.com/WHAS11Kent/status/1095332041019871232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Simply Red 02-12-2019 09:46 AM

I saw Matt House buying a Chicken Fried Steak combo at Grandy's in Blue Springs - interpret that how you wish.

O.city 02-12-2019 09:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can confirm this report. Chiefs and UK have re-entered negotiations and are expected to reach an agreement for Matt House to join the staff as LB coach.<br><br>**Back to vacation** <a href="https://t.co/lOU6hiKY3q">https://t.co/lOU6hiKY3q</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1095348819657740288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14102936)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can confirm this report. Chiefs and UK have re-entered negotiations and are expected to reach an agreement for Matt House to join the staff as LB coach.<br><br>**Back to vacation** <a href="https://t.co/lOU6hiKY3q">https://t.co/lOU6hiKY3q</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1095348819657740288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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EXPECTED....... THATS NOT CONFIRMED TEREZ!!

chiefforlife 02-12-2019 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102933)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So it&#39;s official this time.... UK confirms defensive coordinator Matt House leaving for the Kansas City Chiefs. <a href="https://twitter.com/WHAS11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WHAS11</a></p>&mdash; Kent Spencer (@WHAS11Kent) <a href="https://twitter.com/WHAS11Kent/status/1095332041019871232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Getting Warmer but I still want to see it on PFT, NFLN, ESPN...

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 14102941)
Getting Warmer but I still want to see it on PFT, NFLN, ESPN...

Terez says it’s almost a done deal

staylor26 02-12-2019 09:55 AM

Lol you guys can relax. It’s happening.

Randallflagg 02-12-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102933)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So it&#39;s official this time.... UK confirms defensive coordinator Matt House leaving for the Kansas City Chiefs. <a href="https://twitter.com/WHAS11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WHAS11</a></p>&mdash; Kent Spencer (@WHAS11Kent) <a href="https://twitter.com/WHAS11Kent/status/1095332041019871232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Hey...wait a minute! I lived and went to College in Kentucky (Louisville to be exact). WHAS is a Louisville station - they are probably putting this crap out there just to piss off their UK adversaries..... ROFL

The Franchise 02-12-2019 09:57 AM

Maybe we’re trying to trade them Al Harris.

chiefzilla1501 02-12-2019 09:58 AM

I've always thought assistant coaches were really nice to have. Defensive coordinator is a far more important hire. But getting adding house and Daly turns a meh spagnuolo hire into a potential home run.

wazu 02-12-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14102961)
I've always thought assistant coaches were really nice to have. Defensive coordinator is a far more important hire. But getting adding house and Daly turns a meh spagnuolo hire into a potential home run.

This is where I'm at. If Spags assembles a great staff and is the best version of himself with capable lieutenant's then this seem like it could actually work.

In58men 02-12-2019 10:01 AM

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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-12-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14102922)
dude... someone just paid the buyout clause thats in his uk contract.

nothing cutthroat about that.

Dude, the Chiefs set their sights on an asset and when presented with adversity, did not flinch or back away.

I know you're being obtuse so I'm going to say this more for the benefit of everyone else present:

There is no way in hell Clark Hunt would have approved the continuation of this move prior to getting his ass whipped in an embarrassing fashion, at home, by the New England Patriots.

Old Clark would have said, "eh, move on". You KNOW this is true. EVERYONE knows this is true. He just wasn't that aggressive and you know it. And you can't compare this to picking up Reid or Peeholi because those are HIGH LEVEL hires where he was directly involved in the entire process. This was a Linebackers coach position. But his guys( Reid/Spags )selected Matt House as their #1 choice for the job, and by extension he became Clark's #1 guy for the job. And Clark wasn't going to be denied his #1 guy by money, some jank-ass college, or anything else.

You can sit there and say "it was just a buyout" and technically you would be correct. But this isn't about technicalities exclusively. It's also about absolutely REFUSING to be denied what you are seeking in the quest to win a championship and beyond. Even a simple positional coach.


And it's about to spill over into player personnel, which I know you're just itching to argue about but don't worry; it's coming.

htismaqe 02-12-2019 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14102961)
I've always thought assistant coaches were really nice to have. Defensive coordinator is a far more important hire. But getting adding house and Daly turns a meh spagnuolo hire into a potential home run.

Getting Daly and House really elevates the Spags hire, yes.

scho63 02-12-2019 10:07 AM

"Put your Matt House in
Your Matt House out
Your Matt House in
And shake it all about
You do the hokey pokey
And turn yourself around
That's what it's all about"

TwistedChief 02-12-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14102974)
You can sit there and say "it was just a buyout" and technically you would be correct. But this isn't about technicalities exclusively. It's also about absolutely REFUSING to be denied what you are seeking in the quest to win a championship and beyond.

What Patrick Mahomes did for Clay,
Matt House is doing for Sweet Daddy Hate.

It's all rainbows and sunshine going forward on CP as we hold hands and do trust falls on the way to the Super Bowl.

DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14102851)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I tend to think we’re already beginning to see the Mahomes effect on defensive side of the football. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are a Super Bowl contender and (arguably) got two NFL DC candidates—Brendan Daly and Matt House—as position coaches. KC is a destination. Free agency shaping up to be fun.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1095333116611362816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Mahomes Effect!!

Here's what I don't understand.

If the Chiefs don't win the SB next year, NOBODY is blaming Patrick Mahomes. He's our golden child; he could run over my dog and I'd blame myself for letting him outside....even if Mahomes drove drunk through my living room to run him over.

So if you want to talk about 'betting on yourself', this is a MASSIVE gamble by these guys. I mean the defense is gonna take some serious shit if it doesn't turn around in a hurry and there's still a solid chance that there are genuine talent issues up and down that side of the ball.

I love this hire but man, it sure is ballsy by both him and Daly.

Titty Meat 02-12-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14102994)
Here's what I don't understand.

If the Chiefs don't win the SB next year, NOBODY is blaming Patrick Mahomes. He's our golden child; he could run over my dog and I'd blame myself for letting him outside....even if Mahomes drove drunk through my living room to run him over.

So if you want to talk about 'betting on yourself', this is a MASSIVE gamble by these guys. I mean the defense is gonna take some serious shit if it doesn't turn around in a hurry and there's still a solid chance that there are genuine talent issues up and down that side of the ball.

I love this hire but man, it sure is ballsy by both him and Daly.

What's the alternative?

O.city 02-12-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14102994)
Here's what I don't understand.

If the Chiefs don't win the SB next year, NOBODY is blaming Patrick Mahomes. He's our golden child; he could run over my dog and I'd blame myself for letting him outside....even if Mahomes drove drunk through my living room to run him over.

So if you want to talk about 'betting on yourself', this is a MASSIVE gamble by these guys. I mean the defense is gonna take some serious shit if it doesn't turn around in a hurry and there's still a solid chance that there are genuine talent issues up and down that side of the ball.

I love this hire but man, it sure is ballsy by both him and Daly.

Wouldn't you think if they're making these decisions to come here, that says they don't feel it's a talent thing? I mean I know money talks, but if they're ok trying this, they've gotta feel pretty good about it?

Or the Chiefs have told them they're bringing in a bunch of guys or something

O.city 02-12-2019 10:13 AM

Plus in terms of turning around the D, I don't think it could get much worse so there's no where to go but up.

htismaqe 02-12-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14102991)
What Patrick Mahomes did for Clay,
Matt House is doing for Sweet Daddy Hate.

It's all rainbows and sunshine going forward on CP as we hold hands and do trust falls on the way to the Super Bowl.

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htismaqe 02-12-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14102998)
Plus in terms of turning around the D, I don't think it could get much worse so there's no where to go but up.

Exactly.

htismaqe 02-12-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14102994)
Here's what I don't understand.

If the Chiefs don't win the SB next year, NOBODY is blaming Patrick Mahomes. He's our golden child; he could run over my dog and I'd blame myself for letting him outside....even if Mahomes drove drunk through my living room to run him over.

So if you want to talk about 'betting on yourself', this is a MASSIVE gamble by these guys. I mean the defense is gonna take some serious shit if it doesn't turn around in a hurry and there's still a solid chance that there are genuine talent issues up and down that side of the ball.

I love this hire but man, it sure is ballsy by both him and Daly.

Ballsy? Or confident?

Obviously, both of them (and Spags too) think they can get it done. That's a good thing.

wazu 02-12-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14102994)
Here's what I don't understand.

If the Chiefs don't win the SB next year, NOBODY is blaming Patrick Mahomes. He's our golden child; he could run over my dog and I'd blame myself for letting him outside....even if Mahomes drove drunk through my living room to run him over.

So if you want to talk about 'betting on yourself', this is a MASSIVE gamble by these guys. I mean the defense is gonna take some serious shit if it doesn't turn around in a hurry and there's still a solid chance that there are genuine talent issues up and down that side of the ball.

I love this hire but man, it sure is ballsy by both him and Daly.

Completely agree. Spags/Reid must be great salesmen. Would love it if KC became a career launching point for coaches on the defensive side of the ball, though.

DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14102961)
I've always thought assistant coaches were really nice to have. Defensive coordinator is a far more important hire. But getting adding house and Daly turns a meh spagnuolo hire into a potential home run.

Scheme is a DC issue.

Technique/responsibility is a position coach issue.

I think we had SERIOUS problems with our position coaches this year. Certainly some scheme issues, but in the end the individual mental errors happening play after play, week after week, demonstrates significant shortcomings among our position coaches.

I'm damn excited to see Hunt spending money in ways that has no bearing on the cap but can significantly alter the trajectory of the team. There's no cap on coach spending, Clark. And the Chiefs are going to make money hand over fist as long as Patrick Mahomes is here (especially when you aren't having to give him that big signing bonus right now).

Throwing money at the coaching staff is incredibly cost effective and smart.

DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14102996)
What's the alternative?

For House? Staying at Kentucky until he can maybe get hired directly into an NFL DC gig. His stock was flying up after turning a basketball school's defense into a genuine monster.

For Daly, I'm not sure really what his relationship with BB was or if he still had a home there if he wanted it. I will say that if I could stay under BB and continue to learn from the greatest coach in NFL history or go back and coach under Spags and a HC that is largely indifferent to the defense, I'd almost certainly stay under BB. His defensive coaches have shown a lot more upward mobility than Reid's.

These are just ballsy defections from both guys. Staying put would've been a lot easier and very possibly better paths to bigger jobs.

DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14103005)
Ballsy? Or confident?

Obviously, both of them (and Spags too) think they can get it done. That's a good thing.

Absolutely - I'm ecstatic that both of those guys decided to come over. There's nothing but upside here.

It's just something that, on the surface, seems questionable to me for THEM. Because confident don't mean stupid and they sure seem to have left jobs with equal ceilings and WAY higher floors to come here.

But as has been said - there's a reason for it. And the simplest one is likely the correct one, they believe this talent is better than it showed (I don't know how the Chiefs can promise them anything; they don't know if they can get anyone in particular signed or drafted).

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14103016)
For House? Staying at Kentucky until he can maybe get hired directly into an NFL DC gig. His stock was flying up after turning a basketball school's defense into a genuine monster.

For Daly, I'm not sure really what his relationship with BB was or if he still had a home there if he wanted it. I will say that if I could stay under BB and continue to learn from the greatest coach in NFL history or go back and coach under Spags and a HC that is largely indifferent to the defense, I'd almost certainly stay under BB. His defensive coaches have shown a lot more upward mobility than Reid's.

These are just ballsy defections from both guys. Staying put would've been a lot easier and very possibly better paths to bigger jobs.

There were reports Daly didn’t want to be resigned because of Schiano. Daly wasn’t even considered for the DC spot. He felt slighted so he didnt re sign

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-12-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14103022)
Absolutely - I'm ecstatic that both of those guys decided to come over. There's nothing but upside here.

It's just something that, on the surface, seems questionable to me for THEM. Because confident don't mean stupid and they sure seem to have left jobs with equal ceilings and WAY higher floors to come here.

But as has been said - there's a reason for it. And the simplest one is likely the correct one, they believe this talent is better than it showed (I don't know how the Chiefs can promise them anything; they don't know if they can get anyone in particular signed or drafted).

We don’t lack talent. 90% of the time players had no idea where to lineup. It was a confusing scheme

TwistedChief 02-12-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14103016)
These are just ballsy defections from both guys. Staying put would've been a lot easier and very possibly better paths to bigger jobs.

These guys both worked for Spags before, right? Maybe they just really enjoyed the experience and see an enticing opportunity given the low bar for success in turning around that defense.

Kansas City is the "it" team in the NFL right now, Reid is one of the most respected coaches, and we have a 23-year-old generational talent at QB. That has to count for something when you're deciding on making a jump like this.

FringeNC 02-12-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14102994)
Here's what I don't understand.

If the Chiefs don't win the SB next year, NOBODY is blaming Patrick Mahomes. He's our golden child; he could run over my dog and I'd blame myself for letting him outside....even if Mahomes drove drunk through my living room to run him over.

So if you want to talk about 'betting on yourself', this is a MASSIVE gamble by these guys. I mean the defense is gonna take some serious shit if it doesn't turn around in a hurry and there's still a solid chance that there are genuine talent issues up and down that side of the ball.

I love this hire but man, it sure is ballsy by both him and Daly.

It does tell you that Spags commands a lot of respect in the coaching ranks. He wasn't my first choice, but can't say I'm not impressed by what's been happening.

Chiefs Moon 02-12-2019 10:31 AM

The Chiefs are favored to go to the Super Bowl. Mahomes is a gold-plated meal ticket. Anyone can do this math.

DJ's left nut 02-12-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14103029)
These guys both worked for Spags before, right? Maybe they just really enjoyed the experience and see an enticing opportunity given the low bar for success in turning around that defense.

Kansas City is the "it" team in the NFL right now, Reid is one of the most respected coaches, and we have a 23-year-old generational talent at QB. That has to count for something when you're deciding on making a jump like this.

I mean the flipside to my argument is obvious.

If Tom Brady isn't a thing, Mike Vrabel, Eric Mangini, Matt Patricia and Brian Flores are just guys. They aren't HC's in this league.

Those guys got exposure because the Patriots won and the Patriots won because of BB and Brady. A lot of guys owe Brady a Christmas card.

So you look at Mahomes as a guy that can get these coaches a lot of exposure and if they can demonstrate even baseline competence, especially coming of 2 seasons that fell beneath that threshold, they're going to get a lot of looks.

The issue is that I think BB is a wizard who makes his defensive coaches look exceptional. I'm not sure Spags is going to be that guy and I KNOW Andy Reid isn't.

R Clark 02-12-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14103030)
It does tell you that Spags commands a lot of respect in the coaching ranks. He wasn't my first choice, but can't say I'm not impressed by what's been happening.

Right if these assistant coaches are as good as advertised spags looks like a damn good hire. Hey got to be a big improvement over Sutton

htismaqe 02-12-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14103026)
We don’t lack talent. 90% of the time players had no idea where to lineup. It was a confusing scheme

It wasn't confusing for Eric Berry or Justin Houston. So yeah, even though scheme was an issue, they do lack talent.

Jerm 02-12-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14103024)
There were reports Daly didn’t want to be resigned because of Schiano. Daly wasn’t even considered for the DC spot. He felt slighted so he didnt re sign

He was probably tired of Belichick/Flores getting literally all the credit for the D's success when he was a major part of it too.


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