It has happened before with Greg hardy and Ray Rice, and for a long while Michael Vick.

When it finally comes out that he did it, will you stop making excuses for him then? Or do you just want to believe in your make believe heroes so bad, you'll make yourself accept anything?

Fully agree with this. It's a smart business move.

- Joe Mixon
- Adrian Peterson
- Rueben Foster
- Mike Brown
-Eziekell Elliot

Do you want me to keep going..........

Based on your posting how can it be "WHEN"?

Untrue. “Causes of spiral fractures include:

Falling after trying to compensate for a loss in balance by putting out an arm or quickly repositioning the leg.”

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319174.php

You keep bringing up those examples as if they're anywhere remotely close to tyreek. Mixon is the closest, and he's basically getting the second chance tyreek got.

Ray rices elevator punch set the bar for cringeworthy behavior. Tyreeks was already close to that level. That is laughable to think zeke or hunt or any of those guys' actions hold a candle to a guy who hit a pregnant woman. I'm not talking about which act is worse than the other. I'm talking optics. Bad as mixons punch was, barely anyone remembers it. I guaran-****ing-tee you everyone remembers the ray Rice punch and that everyone still has that cringey image in their head of a guy wailing on a pregnant woman. And they will remember that a decade from now too if he keeps playing.

It needs to happen but won’t

All I know is that we better not let him go somewhere else like the AFCW or New England if the NFL doesn’t bring the hammer down... to hell with another Hunt situation

If he ends up with another team, Coach Reid should put a bounty on his knees. Take the 15 yard penalty, end his career.

Oh my.....

Exactly. If they continue to accept what I would call the culture then the culture will never change. It just sucks for the Chiefs we had a couple now, then sign big money on Frank Clark. The nasty thread of bullshit seems to be sewn through everything

Exactly the Chiefs are in a no win situation after the Hunt ****ing the league gave us

I voted no. But for the reason that I don't want to see him sign with another team. It hurt doing the right thing with Hunt only to see him snatched up by Dorsey. Let the league be the one to make the decision this time. If they can him from the league, so be it. But if they suspend him for a set number of games, then it would be dumb to release him. He would sign with another team and the only ones hurt would be the Chiefs. Screw that.

Hoo boy!

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319174.php
Causes of spiral fractures include:

Skiing or snowboarding injuries, when the leg is twisted by being stuck in a ski or snowboarding boot while the rest of the leg continues to move.
Soccer injuries, especially when two players run into one another and become entangled or twisted.
American football injuries, especially when one player runs into another, one player is held or restrained by another, or a player twists to get free.
Wrestling injuries to the legs or arms caused by twists.
Motor vehicle and motorcycle accidents.
Bicycle accidents, typically those involving a motor vehicle as well.
Falling after trying to compensate for a loss in balance by putting out an arm or quickly repositioning the leg.
Child abuse, if a child's arm or leg has been jerked aggressively.
Falling down the stairs or a slope with fixed obstacles, such as rocks or trees that can twist an arm or leg away from the rest of the body.
Physical violence, when a person's arm or leg has been twisted forcibly.
Machinery injuries that involve someone's limbs.

The policy in my mind should be, "If he doesn't play for the Chiefs, do everything possible to make sure he doesn't play for anybody else." I'm tired of getting screwed over by other teams and the league. Let's treat it like a competition.

This franchise keeps breaking hearts

Dorsey should not have been able to sign Hunt and he shouldn't be able to sign Hill either.

He drafted both of them.

Just a thought. Why was this recording given to a 3rd party and why did the 3rd party give it to KCTV? Why wasn't it given directly to the DA? Was it a case of him leaving her and if she couldn't have the money, he wasn't going to get any either? Note to all you young bucks on the prowl, stay away from the crazies no matter how good the poonanny is.

OBJ and Hill, holy hell...

I don't think anyone here has barely said a peep about Frank Clark. Most of us were more than willing to give Tyreek a second chance. So we're not necessarily asking for choir boys. I don't think the Chiefs should just outright cut him until they know what happened. But I'm being realistic about what's pretty inevitable.

So let's look at this logically. The Chiefs can keep him under his current contract (where he'll likely be suspended by the NFL for most if not all of it). Or they can extend him to a contract knowing full well he can't be trusted and that he's one even petty mistake away from being suspended even worse. That's not even considering the baggage and distraction that comes with this. It's lose/lose for the Chiefs. I still hold to the idea that as of right now, teams are very reluctant to go near him.

It's not audio that damns him legally. But it sure did major irreversible reputational damage.

Exactly.

Because the audio probably doesn't change the fact they can't bring criminal charges without Crystal's cooperation. Releasing it through the news had a greater effect at this moment in time.

Tyreek was at least suspended by the Chiefs with offseason workouts. More could come.

The NFL has heard the tapes. Would they have if it would have been just sent to the DA?

The media and public are horrified. Beforehand there was a decent split of support versus outrage.

If whoever sent the tapes to KCTV5 was in the know or strongly believed that Tyreek Hill was to blame then whoever could be looking for some action in some capacity.

I'm sorry, but did ANYONE really expect a different outcome? Was there really anyone dumb enough to think Hunt wouldn't be immediately signed by another team?

Hill, given his talent and position, would be signed even quicker. Around 31 other teams would sign him as soon as he's available.

Why? The Chiefs fired him. He can sign whomever he likes and he should. He should also reap the praise for making good football decisions.

Let's be clear; that was NEVER the right thing. The "right" thing would have been a suspension.

yup............ Releasing Hunt was dumb.

Yip

It probably was. A suspension would have made everyone satisfied.


Hill on the other hand can't play another snap for this team. Flush him.

If you don't want him here, he'll play somewhere else. Period. He also happens to be the most dynamic WR in the league.

Cool.

I voted no..let the NFL handle it..as it is we have one of the best NFL receivers on the cheap!. Dude needs help..give him what he needs (counseling and anger management classes) otherwise another team/teams will. Don't Hunt this up Chiefs. All you guys throwing shade when not all the info is out will be the same ones yelling REEEK when Mahomes is dropping 70 yd dimes to him later in the year after the NFL gets done with him.(deservingly so BTW)

This.

What Hunt did wasn't even that bad. A release was totally uncalled for even if he lied. What young 20-year-old doesn't lie to their employer anyway? That was a terrible decision by the Chiefs

Hill on the other hand this is different. What he did is terrible. I don't want to root for someone who did what he did in the past and continues to do it. That's just me.

I do get the whole why release him if someone else would sign him thought process but I don't really care if another team signs him. I dont think this is an isolated incident like w Hunt. I think there's a good chance he does this again and gets suspended forever.

If anyone here knows repeat felons or people who like to beat their girlfriends/kids they usually can't help themselces. They are who they are.

The problem is that we were sold that tyreek was going through very very very extensive anger management already. That's no longer gonna sell as a fix. And agreed... We will cheer for whomever is on the field and we've rooted for scumbags before. But the Chiefs are in a lose lose here which is my issue. They lose if they cut him, but although an outstanding player they also lose if they keep him. So.... That's the rub right now I think more than being too disgusted to root for a bad person

I'm good with whatever the Chiefs decide.

If your the owner you dont need this shit show drama day in and day out.
It's obvious this is going to drag out in the news/courts for a year at least.
Look how much time has been wasted on this drama already.
I don't think Tryeek plays for KC again, just my two cents.

You're the one with the weeping vagina disguised as "moral superiority", Mr. Black Op and I are simply discussing the events of this most unusual case.

Don't you know it. Those guys wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell against the machine today. And yet, there are some idiots who believe that we're actually IMPROVING our society with this utter horse shit.

I was just musing today that if the US in its current form were asked to go to war against Nazi Germany, this country would get bent over and ass ****ed SO hard, we'd all be shitting schnitzel for decades thereafter.

Unless Mahomes himself turns his back, none of the other players will.

Would it be possible to sit it out and find out what the repercussions are first? And would you not agree that if the Chiefs knee-jerk release Hill that we've learned absolutely nothing and will in fact damage our team even further again?

I voted no. I am not in favor of it.

I wanted to wait until there was PROOF that Reek is the monster he is being made out to be. I think he was tried in the media before the facts were out.

But I heard all I need to when she said:

"Your son is terrified of you!"

TERRIFIED!

Kids and animals know a good person from the bad. When your own son is scared shitless and cries just to have to face you-you are a pos.

Even when my kids did something and made me angry, I never used a belt on them and they were NEVER scared for their life. We always hugged it out and talked about what they did.

I believe he has abused his son for years, I think he was the cause of the kid's broken arm. I think the mother is a pos as well, using this history as leverage to cover her own abuse. I hope they both go to jail. You don't need to "whoop" a 3-year-old with a belt-ever.

The last thing I want is him on this team tainting our Super Bowl, which he will.

We can win it without him.

This, precisely, is the problem.

The Chiefs would be wise to hire you...

Why move on from, or trade him, if the NFL is going to allow him to still play in the NFL?

I agree. But I think it is overstepping the line to take that dark smoke and act like there is now hard evidence of years of abuse, the way some are taking it.

It's not a cut and dry situation, either way. He's clearly not innocent, but he's also not clearly guilty - no matter what one believes.

I don't like it....but I agree with you.

Exactly who is going to trade for this shitshow??? Teams will do what they always do.. wait till he’s released and find out how many games or banishment happens..

It also makes him a free agent at the end of the year. If someone wants to sign him, Chiefs would likely get a comp pick. Releasing him outright is knee-jerk reactionary, like Hunt was.

The problem is that right now this board thinks there are only two options:

1. release him immediately.
2. condone child abuse.

I voted no because there's too big a chance that he'll be more than a lost HUGE weapon, but because he'll ultimately come back to hurt us when another team signs us.

Make the NFL perma-ban him, we've seen this movie...

So meredith knew about audio before news broke....... Interesting

They really aren't. They only lose if the cut him. What, exactly, are they losing by suspending him?

Give me a break! You can push a woman and kick her when she's down....but 3 year olds are off limits? That is crazy talk! It's all bad! But this is what happens when the self-righteous have their say. The line keeps moving, past the point of absurdity…..kind of like political correctness!

You make the punishment fit the crime. No one knows how his arm was broke. The chest punch/slap is his way of rearing his kid. Get him some counseling.....don't throw him to the wolves!!!

Go jump in a well, Tyreek

If his own son is TERRIFIED of him- what more do you need to know?

Abusers hide in the gray area behind a smile.

Oh common,

My kids are TERRIFIED of me when they act a fool. Doesn't mean shit

I seriously doubt he is terrified of him ……. you're listening to a woman who taped a conversation, basically entrapping Tyreek, for personal gain of some sort. Don't you think she would embellish/manipulate the conversation somewhat???

If you think a 3 year old should be scared to death of his parent, whipped with a belt and punched - I don' know what else to say. Sad.

What you don't know is what really happened, dip-shit! You're taking one crazy womans secretly taped conversation and using it as a video in your little mind!

On the other hand it is hard to take what she said as 100% gospel. The kid is not there, no showing he is actually scared of Hill. The belt and punched is not good. But without knowing how hard, whether it hurt.. is jumping to a lot of conclusions.

Did Reek deny it? Deny punching him and whooping his ass with a belt?

No.

He seemed pleased the kid was scared of him- and then said "you should be too..."

A real tough guy. :rolleyes:

I don't like how she did the tape, how the media has tried to profit from it, ect- but his own words have doomed him.

The real Reek is right there.

Once again- It was REEKS OWN WORDS!

Not hers.

But keep defending this kid and woman beater.

https://twitter.com/KCTV5/status/1121854752030187521

That didn't take long.

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Like someone said earlier......you don't know if he was giving her the eye-roll or just laughed when she said that crap about the chest punch. It could have been a back handed slap for all you know. Wake up man.....he was secretely recorded for a reason.... what do you think the reason was for?

:clap:

You are a little slow aren't you Halfcan???!!!! The recording is worse for her than for him!!!!! Unproven allegations! She admits the kid may have fallen and broke his arm. Take some Adderall, I hear it clears the cob webs!

Correct. But it's going to be tougher to do without him vs with him. Talent like him isn't easy to find.

Go **** yourself. I have lived through this with my grandson getting abused. Abusers always have an excuse. They both admitted to whooping this kid.

Reek does not get the benefit of the doubt with his history.

Defending him makes you just as bad.

Horsefeathers!

It's great that Halfcan has spent so much time living with Tyreek and Cristal, so that he can give us the real "inside scoop" on what's truly going on, and what everything means!

It's his history that makes him easy prey!

Did I ****ing say that? No. I said my OPINION based on Reeks on words.

The tape was disgusting. Stop defending this pos.

A kids well-being means more than trying to replace a football player and if you don't think so, your moral compass is ****ed.

Reek is not the one with the broken arm and bruises. His son is the prey dumbass.

Reek is not a victim here. Get a grip. :rolleyes:

The only thing I'm defending is the due process. Now that the case has reopened, we can get some actual answers instead of knee-jerk speculation. Don't you want that as well? Or do we just take what scant bit of shitty "evidence" we currently possess and call it a day?

No, you're trying to hang him using the taped conversation of a crazy woman!

I do want due process...including a trial and jail time.

Crystals step-mother was the one that started this whole shit-fire....it'll be interesting if Crystal get jail time for lying to the DA. Congrats...her master plan seems to umm..backfired.

"Daddy did it!"

Try twisting those words.

If guilty, absolutely.

I just believe this whole thing is more complex and twisted that what we're seeing on the surface at this point, and I want to know EVERYTHING.

If you use your excellent reading comprehension skills you'd see I called her dumb for what she did and that abused women are prone to making dumb irrational decisions. A woman going back to their abuser is very common.