As it pertains to the Chiefs and the NFL, that’s all that matters.

You’re right we should trust women who say “he did it, no he didn’t, no wait he did it”

The Chiefs drafted a known piece of shit, got 3 years of good production, and he did was always going to do.

On paper they did well.

Yea but without him we aren't a bowl team.....and if he ends up somewhere else we are ****ed over.

FYI, this is National News now. Yes, it has been covered on National Sports Broadcasts, but I just heard this on CBS Network News (non-sports broadcast)

He's done.

I think both. I also think both harmed the boy. Baby mama was definately controlling the discussion on the recording in a way that she was trying to get Reek to admit what he did, while trying to clear herself of doing any harm to the child.

True. So there's that I guess.

100% how I read it, I hope he separates from her because she sounds insane.

People keep mention when he said “you should be scared of me”

Your missing the biggest part of that statement “TOO” aka she clearly has threatened him before. Either for legitimate reasons or not.

I’m a huge fan of what Tyreek brings to the field...but QB is far more important than any receiver. We’ve got that, so we’re still a Super Bowl contender.

Look at how many different receivers Brady has been through and still won Super Bowls. Look how many he’s lost for the year and still won it all.

Outside of Jerry Rice, I’m having a hard time thinking of a wide receiver that couldn’t be replaced on a Super Bowl team.

Yes Tyreek is a great player, but this offense can regress quite a bit and still be Super Bowl caliber.

If/when we release him, whatever team picks him up is going to have a media shitstorm on their hands. His history is far more controversial than Hunt’s.

I'm disappointed beyond belief. At my age, I try to see the best in everyone and hope they've learned from their mistakes. Obviously, Hill didn't. He continued to live with someone that is just bat-shit crazy and then knocked her up again. The anger management classes apparently were blown off and he has the mental capacity of a turnip. The kid is a helpless pawn in the middle of 2 people that should never have been together and now 2 more lives will be ruined.
I defended Hill, not because of his talent on the field, but believing that everyone deserves a 2nd chance. I was wrong in this case. I frankly don't give a rat's ass if we cut him, the NFL suspends or bars him from the game, he does hard time, or any combination of the 3. This is not acceptable behavior from anyone. To the ones that worry about him getting picked up by another team, a la Hunt, so what, he's their problem now. He will continue to be a problem whether in the NFL or society. If team can't count on the guy, let alone after they've given him the national debt of a 3rd world country, we just don't need that kind of trouble at #1 Arrowhead.
So let me just say this. Thanks for the memories, Tyreek, but don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave KC.

Just FYI. He won’t even clear waivers

I read the “too” as “not only should their son be scared of him, but she should be as well”.

We have no depth at that position....we're counting on Watkins, Robinson and unknowns, we had bad depth with Hill.

He was actually insinuating that crystal and the boy should be scared of him “too”

I don’t have the facts, I don’t know if audio is edited. We clearly know mom has intent for something with recording and the child’s well being isn’t it. Logically if she cared for the child, and this happened she wouldn’t have lied.

So just follow the logic here

Well he left us with some monsters.

Hey Cleveland welcome to your future you just cant see yet.

I dont give any ****s about the facts of this case anymore. I dont care who broke the kids arm, i dont care which parent is more toxic.

This is a super bowl caliber team, with aspirations to win it all. They dont need this stupid ****ing distraction all year.

**** tyreek hill. I dont care what team he goes to, or if he ever plays again. This team has a better shot at staying focused and getting the job done with him gone at this point.

Great idea, let’s release him and have him kill us for years because we are morally superior

This was a super bowl caliber team . They started dismantling that last year.

Well they aren't a bowl team without him so everyone should quickly readjust their expectations.

This team might be going for back to back bowls but Hunt and Hill and now we will have none.

Exactly it’s time to move on from Hill.

There’s a couple of WRs still out there like Crabtree we can get for cheap.

Old slow guys are surely how to win things.

Tyreek is most likely not playing football anymore

Chiefs are quickly becoming the Raiders.

Jesus you guys are insane

Yeah and neither is Kareem Hunt. So you have a point.

If ANYONE thinks this doesn't matter or hurt bowl aspirations. Or that we can just get some other guy to fill his spot you are seriously diluted.

You are losing the most explosive playmaker in the entire league, you can't replace it.

It kills the offense and makes everyone elses job 10 times harder.

So is beating a 3 year old.

Too bad Crystal didn't have insurance on her "insurance policy". The insurance policy itself is the black swan that financially ruined her.

Truth be known, I have sympathy for the kid, but not for her. Seems very calculating and knows the risks.

Most sane, civilized people don't give a **** given the circumstances.

I'll remember that in 10 years when people are talking about our wasted opportunities.

What proof do you have? He denied it

No one cares what you will remember.

Yep.

This really is a loser franchise and we'll probably Marino, Mahomes.

Bullshit. Brady has 6 rings and no Hill and no explosive speedster. WRs are not the deciding factor on SB teams. Game planning, QB and execution are.

We had one more "free" year of Tyreek Hill, then we had to start paying market value. That's the only part of this story that isn't tragic. My gosh, think if this came out *AFTER* he signed an extension making him the highest paid WR in league history.

Tyreek Hill isn't St. Patrick, Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. He is a special talent. There are players out there that will give you 80-90% of Hill without the baggage just like Williams gave the Chiefs probably 90% of what Hunt would have.
I don't want his continued employment with the Chiefs any more than most here but I hope the Chiefs learned to wait things out to see what happens so that they get more than the "moral high ground" in return for doing what's right. If the NFL gives him a slap on the wrist like Hunt, then a new discussion is in order.

Well here is the post to prove what I said..

Yes use the Patriot example the team that is the outlier to everything, tell me how far that gets you..

Also we don't have Belichick..and Mahomes is a 2nd year starter....yea take away the biggest playmaker in the league and tell me it doesn't hurt.

His skill set is unique, you will be lucky to find someone to give you 50% of that.

You get extra point for morale Super Bowl wins

It’s nothing to do with the ****ing morality of it.

IT IS A MAJOR DISTRACTION TO A TEAM THAT IS OTHERWISE A SUPERBOWL FAVORITE!

I dont get what is so ****ing hard to understand about it.

I dont give a shit about morals. They just traded for a guy with domestic violence charges, but he doesnt have the full force of the national media coming after him.

Ty is replaceable.

Tyreek is replaceable is laughable

I turned off Sports radio today because that's all 610 and 810 are talking about. I'll be watching draft coverage and analysis on TV tonight and tomorrow because I don't want to hear Tyreek Hill's name every time the Chiefs draft a player. It might happen on TV every now and then, but on radio it's all they talk about, and I want to keep those things separate, because they are entirely separate things. I want to see who the future of this franchise is, not past mistakes of the franchise who likely won't be here much longer. Since our local sports radio is milking the hell out of the story, consistently talking about it even though it "sickens them to play the audio" or they liken it to "Jovan Belcher's situation". Tyreek Hill is not Jovan Belcher, Tyreek Hill is a terrible father and spouse, we get it, just please stop beating us over the head with it and talk about something else for a change.

Saying he's replaceable is totally fooling yourself, outside of Mahomes he's the hardest guy on the team to replace.

No he's not

Offense dipped when we lost Hunt. Can you imagine if we don't have Tyreek?

This went from what should have been a team in the middle of it's bowl run to a team that isn't gonna win shit because of these 2 things.

Teams that have won superbowls way more recently than us have been able to replace their best WRs every few years.

In 8 years, Pittsburgh dumped sanders, mike wallace and Antonio brown and still have juju.


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50% of TH last year would be 750 yards and 6 TDs. Give him 10% influence on the others so 825 yards and 8 TDs. Those stats probably get you into the top 20 of receivers. A good replacement could give you over 1000 yards and close to 10 TDs. Making up the rest isn't that hard to do among the RB, TEs other WRs.

I love how he broke the arm now because someone whose a admitted liar says he did now

Lol 8 years how many times have they been to Super Bowl or playoffs?

It's not just the numbers, every defense fears him, it allowed every other guy on the field more space to work in.

Now without that, guys play tighter, space becomes less, Kelce sees doubles that he wasn't.

Goodness, man. How naive are you?

She was talking about how their son was terrified of Tyreek and then he responded saying “you should be terrified of me too, bitch”....

Stop trying to talk yourself into a happy ending here. It’s not coming.

Who are we going to trade for that could have 1000 yards and 10 tds and what are you trading?

The defense will be required to account for whoever replaces him with at least 1 player. I agree in will be harder for TK and the others but it isn't time to throw in the towel and cancel next season because the Chiefs are destined to finish 0-16 because they lost a WR.

They're probably a playoff team but more like 10-6 and a first round loss.

What are they gonna do trade for Nelson Agholar?

Call up the bengals and offer some picks for green or a late one for ross

Not a bad idea

There are quality weapons available today. No they aren’t Tyreek, but you have Kelce, Sammy and Kelce.

Give Mahomes 2 more weapons today and we will be okay.

I haven't looked at the waiver wire/FA lately to see who's available. 1000 receivers aren't near as rare as they used to be. 10 years ago there was a handful every year, now there's 15-20 every year. You can draft a speedster as well but he won't give the immediate impact you want.

I think its coming. I am hopeful they make the NFL make the first move I just doubt Hunt waits. I doubt C.Hunt wants to tear down a legacy of class organization his Dad built up.

I really wanted to believe Hill could reform from kid to a man with responsibilities of fatherhood. I was wrong and I dont care to see him take down the team I have loved since a little boy. I was 14 years old when I got to watch the Chiefs win a Superbowl. I lived and died with every win and loss in my youth. One by one I watched my hero's hang it up or move on to another team. I just dont want to see it tainted if we get there again with these John Dorsey degenerates.

I have no use for Hill or Espinal I dont think that little boy or his siblings yet to arrive should be with either these turds. The Chiefs could actually do something right here by holding Hill in suspension as long as they can to keep the turd away from a team that will jump to sign as soon as Godell cowers.

I got the belt so often my dad's name was imprinted on my butt.

I'm honestly surprised by the number of people who are willing to look past his "character issue(s)" in lieu of the prospect of winning a Super Bowl. I guess, when I was like 19, I didn't care.

This whole thing is effed and, honestly, I don't care about Hill. Losing him isn't going to set this team back 10 years or anything. People around here are acting like we are losing Mahomes. Hill may not be replaceable, and the difference between having him and not having him is the difference between being a SB favorite and not, but a little perspective goes a long way.

They literally just acquired Frank Clark, lets not act like they really care.

I'm almost 40, at this point I don't give a flying **** how they win a bowl as long as it happens.

You def fit the mold of a guy who lives in Topeka

I'm pretty sure the NFL put Kareem on the exempt list and the Chiefs cut him immediately thereafter. Not sure what good cutting him after being put on the list does though.

I'd prefer to keep Hill for the next few months (because let's be honest, he's probably going on the exempt list) and wait to see what his punishment is. Then deal him to an NFC team that is in dire need of a receiver and get something out of this debacle.

Pretty sure we have to keep paying while he's on the list but I don't think it'll be long before this settles down and someone pops up wanting to take on this headache.

That's nice seeing as I don't live there.

Remember that Adrian Peterson did the same thing and he's back in the league...

This is a cultural thing w/black folks. They're old school when it comes to raising their kids. I'll bet there are a lot of nervous players today that are wondering if their wives are taping their conversations...

Did Adrian Peterson beat his pregnant gf too?

**** John Dorsey I'm glad he got fired

Frank Clark got kicked off his college team for DV.

So did Tyreek Hill.

Both of them got a 2nd chance. Frank Clark hasn't had an incident since.

Tyreek Hill is at the center of a controversy about who abused a 4-year old boy.

Comparing the two stops right after that 3rd sentence, so stop.

Well, apparently you should. And it's good to know where you belong, Mr. Mecca.

Pack your stuff, spraypaint "Topeka Or Bust" on your pickup, and start your new life. I envy you ...

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I'm 41 and I guess I do.

We don't need perfect human beings on this team but I can't get behind keeping a guy like Hill. That's just me. I don't necessarily fault those of you who feel differently but I don't understand it.

Except for harrassing a reporter and punching out his teammate. Theres red flags with Clark too. Chiefs are an inept organization.

False. Absolutely false.

Your choice to be a fan.

Clark’s situation is completely different. The woman even says now that he never even touched her. Maybe that’s a lie, but the point is, she does say it now and he hasn’t done anything since.

Y’all need to watch that Josina Anderson story on him.