He reminds me a little bit of early big Ben though maybe a little less accurate and a little bit smaller. As a big runner he can get away with a little inaccuracy. And daboll has done a good job making sure when allen misses, he misses big instead of missing stupid so his turnovers have gone down.

Bills have reason to be excited about allen. Frankly don't know how anyone can compare allen and Watson until they do something in a big game. despite Allen's playoff collapse I feel like he's had more big game regular season wins than Watson early on.

I might be forgetting someone, but by my count these are the only QBs with a winning record against Mahomes as a starter:

Jared Goff
Russell Wilson
Jacoby Brisett

Am I missing anyone? I’m going to assume that Mahomes will eventually have winning records against Goff and Wilson. Brisett probably won’t start another game against Mahomes, so he might end up as the only QB with a winning record against the GOAT. That’ll be a good trivia question some day.

I’d have to say that Allen is just a tick better than Mahomes right now. But the playoffs are a different beast......

Have to say your mom is a just a tick better than any other women right now but the playoff orgy is a different beast....

Seriously doesn't your shtick get old after a while?

Not sure about that. I’m not sure Goff is a starting QB in 3 seasons, let alone 7 which is how long he’d have to be (at least on the Rams) for PMII to get the 2 cracks he would need to have a winning record. Wilson certainly would be in 3 seasons but may be on the verge of hanging it up by 2027. And of course there would be no margin for error because lose one of those games and it’s 14 more years to have a shot to get over .500

Just downvote him and move on. Clearly he enjoys the attention so it's best not to give it to him.

Of course you do...LMAO

Especially during the bye week.

Well. I’m not wrong. Currently Allen is playing better. But not by a lot.

Doesn’t mean Allen will win in the playoffs or beat Mahomes head to head.

LMAO

Bills be loving that bye week, amirite?

Thanks, Josh!

I mean, doesn’t this feel like Mahomes vs. Jackson last year?

Jackson is ‘Better’ than Mahomes, look at all the crazy numbers his team and offense is putting up. They’re on a roll. No one can stop them come playoff time . . . . . .

Never mind that Mahomes has beat said player head to head. Never mind that Mahomes already has playoff success under his belt. Never mind the ‘other QB’ has already showed the propensity to choke come playoff time . . . . . .

I mean, I feel like we’re repeating last year with the new ‘flavor of the month’.

Oh well. I guess it will all sort itself out come playoff time.

It just gets old hearing the same crap this year we heard last year.


Prove it on the field, then talk your shit . . . . . .

Sort of. Allen is a better QB than Jackson. But your right, Allen has to prove it in the playoffs.

Unfortunately, Mahomes will be compared to every promising QB. BUT, that's because Mahomes sets the bar.

Mahomes vs. Watson, Rivers, Luck, Brady, Goff, Mayfield, Jackson, Tua, Carr, Herbert, Allen

Everyone wants to make a rivalry with our QB. He’s top dog

We’ll see if this one sticks

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. It is unfortunate for every promising QB that they will be compared to Mahomes. It will be next to impossible to approach the level of success Mahomes has had in his 3 seasons as a starter.

Okay, I'll bite

If you believe Josh Allen is "currently" a better QB than Patrick Mahomes, then you must also believe that AJ Dillon is "currently" a better RB than Derrick Henry.

I keep getting Josh Allen mixed up with Kyle Allen.

Deberg has a chromosome abnormality. Cut him some slack...

He's been forcing it lately. Was better when more sporadic.

We are starting to see some people saying DeBerg blows the syphilitic homeless for kicks.

:bravo::bravo::bravo:

{QB who isn't Mahomes} is better than Mahomes.

{Team that won't beat the Chiefs} is seriously legit.

(in a GDT) {Something no one should be worried about, in the 1st quarter} is worrisome.

...that's 95% of it.

It's like a less verbose bad-dad-joke version of Ubeja.

It's part of the entertainment schtick of sports.

The same thing happened with Michael Jordan when he was in CHI. Every new young player was constantly compared to MJ as the "next MJ." It adds (when it works) to the whole drama thing, and draws more fans, more new fans, and consequently more $$$. Unfortunately it never really came to fruition with MJ. No player rose up and became his arch-nemesis (Kobe Bryant was the closest, but cam a little too late).

If we're very lucky some or just one of these new QBs will take up that mantle as Mahomes' true rival, just as Manning was Brady's for so many years. Just hopefully more exciting.

Could Josh Allen become that guy? Maybe. he has potential. But he better hurry up and figure out how to be more than just a big athlete with a big arm, and become a lot more clutch, or the moment will pass him by.

Well said.

And i’m surprised that there are some Chiefs fans that don’t want Allen to become that rival.

It’s more fun that way.

He’s the most improved player in the league this year and the Bills deserve so much credit for it. He previously had trouble with accuracy, but this year he’s been very sharp.

I’d say the 5 best QB’s currently are:

1. Mahomes
2. Rodgers
3. Wilson
4. Watson
5. Allen

The Chiefs didn’t go to a Super Bowl for 50 years. I think a lot of their fans would prefer to make up for that in a huge way over the next 10 years. Weaker competition opens the door for that scenario. We will see how it all shakes out. Seems like there are a bunch of teams with a good chance this year.

Yeah I don’t get people who say they want a rival for Pat or to have other teams get better for better competition. I want to dominate for a decade, why would I root for Allen to be good? It’s asinine.

I hear ya.

Guess i’m different.

Without an opponent, sports are much less fun to me.

Imagine Tyson without Holyfield.

Bird without Magic.

Ali without Frazier.

The Avengers, without Thanos.

Just boring without a nemesis.

What’s fun about dominating if you know you’re only dominating crappy players?

I’m final with a rival if it’s someone like Watson, Herbert, or someone else.

Not Allen, he’s a douche

Oh ok.

What did Allen do that made you view him as a douche?

Aren't you the guy who claims to not have a team he roots for?

There's a big difference between rooting for a team and rooting for a player, man.

I don’t believe there is such a thing as crappy opponents in the NFL for the most part. It’s a pretty dang competitive league. I won’t be too shocked if the terrible NFC East actually wins a playoff game. Margin is not that big between the top teams and the teams that lose a bunch of close games.

Nope, that’s not me.

I hear ya. That would be interesting if an NFC East team wins a playoff game.

Simms: Allen is challenging Mahomes for king of the QB mountain.

https://www.nbcsports.com/video/josh...wout?ls=pftvod

They have to create content.

After Allen regresses next season who will be the next in line to be the QB that is said to challenge Mahomes as the best? Jackson last season. Allen this season. Maybe Herbert? Murray if he takes another big step?

And they have ratings to think about. They aren't going to say "no need to tune in, the Chiefs are unbeatable".... it's their ****ing job to create hype.

They can write all the articles they want, they can talk on their shows all they want.

The only way Allen will challenge Mahomes for top of the mountain is when he plays and beats him.

So far the only guide we have is a complete ass kicking from a few months ago. PERIOD.

I wonder if some of them feel like complete shit to take a side they don't believe in.

I agree

Some people actually believe things that fans don’t.

as an Allen stan: lmao

Allen's kinda like Pat with down syndrome

Some people in league circles say they prefer Allen over Mahomes long term
 

Absolutely ridiculous if you ask me.
But here’s the link.

https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/...=true&app=true

We already have a thread for this.

Sorry, I missed it. Have a link? I don’t see it.

No1curr

That’s literally over a year old.

This article is from today...

Remember when pundits said Lamar was going to be better than Mahomes, how did that work out?

This oughta do the trick on those thread starting abilities.

Mods can you please delete this crap?


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I do have to crack up that the only traits they could come up with to justify it is his size and supposed durability... Even though he rushes almost twice as much as Mahomes does.

Either way, could you please up the troll game? It's honestly quite an embarrassing effort, especially given the time you're investing into it.

I hope you get hit by a bus!!!!!

Ohh so that’s how Tom Brady is still playing football.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Josh Allen, in this moment, is the better &amp; more confident QB than Patrick Mahomes.&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/ColinCowherd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ColinCowherd</a> fills out his 2021 QB face bracket (cc: <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@getnickwright</a>) <a href="https://t.co/6dru8uJpc1">pic.twitter.com/6dru8uJpc1</a></p>&mdash; Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1347301710344065024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why? Cant post articles now?

For goodness sake people, get a grip.

I literally called this exact post in another thread a couple hours ago. This guy is getting way too predictable.

That’s because i’m not trying to troll.

I said the article is ridiculous.

I don’t know why people in league circles think that. Crazy.

I always love the hot takes with the only source being “some in league circles”.

You realize people in league circles could be people who work for shit franchises right?

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if one of those sources was that dipshit Ryan Pace.

Merged

Would still take Watson over Allen.

Put Watson on that team and watch them ball.

Do you guys just merge any thread that is remotely similar here?

Watson couldn’t get past divisional round with Hopkins & Fuller on offense with JJ Watt on defense.

LMAO I love how Debergs normal schtick is just a much improved version of your attempted trolling.

Florio has some kind of issue with Mahomes. I don't remember what it is exactly, but he's basically a less blatantly emotional version of Skip.

Real talk for a bit, is Diggs actually hurting or is it just a bit of rest before the playoffs stretch?

Not remotely similar at all. It's the exact same thing, and in fact you posted in the original thread barely over week ago.

Coming up against Patty and co. is a decent reason.

Do you think Florio is making up the sources?

It's listed as an Oblique injury, which doesn't sound very serious. Of course, if he takes a big hit to the lower rib area, or gets twisted around while running, or otherwise stresses his obliques, that could turn into something more.

I thought Florio was one of the sources? The story is written by some guy named Tim kelley?

Kelly was reporting what Florio said on his show. Florio said that he spoke to people within league circles that prefer Allen over Mahomes.

Nvm. Florio says he knows some people . . .

No, I don't think he's lying about anything; doesn't seem to be his style.

There are still plenty of dinosaurs left in the NFL.

He said he’ll be fine.

Beasley... not so sure.

They’re being very quiet about Beasley.

This is a league where people still hire Patriots assistants...let's not act like there are smart people on every team.

Odd. It's a knee injury, right? That should be pretty straightforward to diagnose.

I’m certainly not.

Is interesting though, some people think Mahomes is a HOF’er already, meanwhile people in league circles prefer Allen over him.

What's so interesting about that? The people in the latter group are clearly idiots.