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TRR 04-24-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 14929423)
This pick sort of makes the Thompson pick last year irrelevant. Two small RBs. I know Thompson was not picking up the offense to well last year but man, they are a lot alike IMO.

Similar size, but different players entirely. Thompson is also the only RB under contract after this season.

I love CEH as a running back. He will have immediate success in Reid’s offense, runs much bigger than his size, and is a talented pass catcher. I don’t care that they took a RB with the last pick of the first round. What I’m hesitant about is if CEH is the best back in the draft with all of them available. Time will tell.

We know what this offense was with Kareem Hunt. Clyde Edwards-Helaire is not a Kareem Hunt type back...which leaves a little uncertainty.

Mecca 04-24-2020 06:47 AM

I thought Swift was a little more explosive but also had more issues with injuries, all in all can't be mad at the pick the top RBs are all grouped right together, Taylor has great long speed and he runs well but more wear and he isn't a weapon in the receiving game.

tyreekthefreak 04-24-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14929442)
You don't make a 1st round selection based off how you feel about your 6th rounder.

Damian
CEH
Washington

Those 3 are locked for the roster, they may keep 1 more and let all the other guys battle out or they may all be gone but this is a remade RB room.

Good point about 1st versus 6th....but they were very high on Thompson last year. Can you not teach the mental aspect of the game?

I guess I'm more disappointed that Thompson appears to be a bust.

Mecca 04-24-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 14929455)
Good point about 1st versus 6th....but they were very high on Thompson last year. Can you not teach the mental aspect of the game?

I guess I'm more disappointed that Thompson appears to be a bust.

Missing on a 6 isn't a bust, it has about the same likelyhood of success as a UDFA.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-24-2020 06:51 AM

How does it feel to watch your new teammates get a ring? Probably hungry

jallmon 04-24-2020 07:03 AM

A 1st Round RB!? Great! This offense is going to be even more exciting. Video above (The Call), Clyde sounds like a fine young man, and EB with RB coach are ready for him.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:08 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire is only about 5-7 and 205, raising questions about whether he will ever be a regular featured back. The Chiefs and GM Brett Veach doesn&#39;t have those doubts.<br><br>&quot;We certainly view this guy as a franchise-type running back,” Veach said.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1253671553893572608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kchero 04-24-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14929342)
I like the pick of an RB but its reeruned for value. You could have traded down to middle to late 2nd round and still got this guy.

It is my belief hes the best RB for our system outside of Swift but that doesn't mean you disregard value. Nobody else wanted this guy until at least pick 47.

Need a partner to trade down with... Veach was pretty clear that there weren’t any adequate offers.

Mecca 04-24-2020 07:11 AM

Said this several times, the idea you can just move down is a bit stupid, someone else has to want your pick.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:12 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veach giving Mahomes CEH to complete the infinity gauntlet <a href="https://t.co/7Zgr1ngS2v">pic.twitter.com/7Zgr1ngS2v</a></p>&mdash; CSW��Superbowl Champions �� (@ChampagneWhiles) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChampagneWhiles/status/1253665038650540032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:12 AM

Dude is already smarter than Darwin

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One thing I&#39;m sure Chiefs like about CEH is that he&#39;s very football smart. Up 3, with 2:30 left, against Auburn, he could fight for ever yard but, once he gets the first down, he slides to make sure he stays in bounds. <a href="https://t.co/EF3PBhwtpW">pic.twitter.com/EF3PBhwtpW</a></p>&mdash; ChieflyBacon (@3GravyCats) <a href="https://twitter.com/3GravyCats/status/1253652698525847553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 04-24-2020 07:15 AM

I’m getting Marshall Faulk vibes from this pick.

Through his 4 best seasons he averaged like 1,300 rushing yards, 800 receiving yards, and 85 catches.

If we even get 60% of that, then this is a fantastic pick.

Chiefs4TheWin 04-24-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14928694)
Dude had 438 touches in his career. Only 1 fumble

I like this stat.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-24-2020 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 14929446)
Good Morning Football gushing about our pick. Schrager said we won the draft.

Nice!!! :thumb:

bigjosh 04-24-2020 07:21 AM

I liked this pick alot last night.

After hearing his phone call and seeing that pat called his shot with this kid i ****ing love this pick.

Mecca 04-24-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14929491)
I’m getting Marshall Faulk vibes from this pick.

Through his 4 best seasons he averaged like 1,300 rushing yards, 800 receiving yards, and 85 catches.

If we even get 60% of that, then this is a fantastic pick.

He doesn't have that kind of elite speed.

TNTEICHER 04-24-2020 07:23 AM

A couple of reasons picking a RB at 32 makes sense.
Without an off season program a running back can still step in and be productive quickly.
The 5th year allows the Chiefs to keep him for 5 years and move on without dropping huge money on a RB.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:23 AM

Since Veach asked Mahomes who he wants do you think he will ask Honey Badger who he wants today. Hey Tyrann give me a couple names for DBs

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is what makes him special. Immediate pressure from the DT and he jump cuts two gaps to the right, forces the CB to commit to the outside then cuts back through the B gap. Breaks a tackle then shows off more contact balance to get in the end zone. He&#39;s got it all <a href="https://t.co/Li9soQHzzK">pic.twitter.com/Li9soQHzzK</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms (@D_Harms19) <a href="https://twitter.com/D_Harms19/status/1228724607600992256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 04-24-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14929508)
Since Veach asked Mahomes who he wants do you think he will ask Honey Badger who he wants today. Hey Tyrann give me a couple names for DBs

LOL, last night Mathieu was all about them taking a safety so he'd have more freedom.

PAChiefsGuy 04-24-2020 07:29 AM

Crazy how so many people on here talked about never taking an RB in the 1st round before the draft. Now that Veach does it he is a genius.

Mecca 04-24-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14929520)
Crazy how so many people on here talked about never taking an RB in the 1st round before the draft. Now that Veach does it he is a genius.

Now now there were several of us who thought it was a legit option.

wazu 04-24-2020 07:31 AM

I’ve decided I’m good with this pick. Cringed at a round 1 RB last night but it was #32, and seems like an outstanding fit.

ChiefRedStick 04-24-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14928644)
He’s going to be so good in this offense.

Yep, other teams won't know if he's a runner, receiver, blocker, or just a decoy. He can pretty much play where needed and do a great job!

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14929518)
LOL, last night Mathieu was all about them taking a safety so he'd have more freedom.

I think HB will be pleased after tonight’s results. Logan Wilson and Bryce Hall please

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:35 AM

Which teams do you think it was?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;It&#39;s not often the Super Bowl champs win the first night of the Draft. The <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> got one of the most dynamic playmakers--and maybe my favorite--in the entire Draft in Clyde Edwards-Helaire. You return 20 of 22 starters and get another stud? C&#39;mon.&quot; -<a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PSchrags</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a> <a href="https://t.co/kAPVoQI52X">pic.twitter.com/kAPVoQI52X</a></p>&mdash; GMFB (@gmfb) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/1253655872967933952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dirk digler 04-24-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14929267)
Andy Reid:

“We asked Pat Mahomes who do you want and he picked you!”


That is ****ING AWESOME

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2020 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 14929500)
I liked this pick alot last night.

After hearing his phone call and seeing that pat called his shot with this kid i ****ing love this pick.

Where did you see that?

MahomesMagic 04-24-2020 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 14929543)
Where did you see that?

I think it was Veach talking to CEH on his draft call.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 14929543)
Where did you see that?

Look up the call. It’s on KC Chiefs YouTube page. Veach said Pat pick a player and he said Clyde. Veach said good we were thinking the same thing

TwistedChief 04-24-2020 07:42 AM

I think I've seen 6 different draft grades of ours, and 4 of them are A's. To me that just speaks volumes given the conventional wisdom of RBs in the first round, etc etc. This guy is just such a perfect and exciting fit for our offense -- which was obviously already other-wordly -- that it gets graded on a separate scale.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2020 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNTEICHER (Post 14929506)
A couple of reasons picking a RB at 32 makes sense.
Without an off season program a running back can still step in and be productive quickly.
The 5th year allows the Chiefs to keep him for 5 years and move on without dropping huge money on a RB.

Great point. Welcome to CP. Rep.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14929548)
Look up the call. It’s on KC Chiefs YouTube page. Veach said Pat pick a player and he said Clyde. Veach said good we were thinking the same thing

Will do. Thanks.

MahomesMagic 04-24-2020 07:48 AM

GMFB mentioned that when the Chiefs grabbed CEH many teams were mad and frustrated as they were hoping to snag him Day 2 early.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:48 AM

Joe Burrow said CEH is the best player he’s ever played with

RunKC 04-24-2020 07:51 AM

I legitimately think CEH’s game against Alabama last Fall is the best tape of any prospect in this draft.

Holy shit

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:54 AM

Good god.....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Up 5. One minute left. Opponent has 2 timeouts. Need that first down. <a href="https://t.co/MbAXQACVEQ">pic.twitter.com/MbAXQACVEQ</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1253552545739522048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Meck 04-24-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14929520)
Crazy how so many people on here talked about never taking an RB in the 1st round before the draft. Now that Veach does it he is a genius.

I wasn't big on the idea.

but as I've also said, I think Veach and Reid have earned my trust.

Watching Helaire video all morning, I see why they were thrilled to pull the trigger.

He's got elite vision and good lord, that lateral quickness and ability to make people miss is really something.

With a less than stellar line, a back like this is what you need. He makes people miss.

I ain't gonna argue with it. Welcome Clyde the Glide, the fresh Prince of Helaire.

Now get me a LB, a CB and a couple of fatties and I'm happy. :)

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14928750)
I love this kid!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Throw your body over the line and your heart will follow” -Clyde Edwards Helaire <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/baller?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#baller</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rolemodel?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rolemodel</a> <a href="https://t.co/06hJsn6c7Z">https://t.co/06hJsn6c7Z</a></p>&mdash; Audrey Hillman (@audreyhillman71) <a href="https://twitter.com/audreyhillman71/status/1253539627581034496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If you didn't watch the above, watch it, amazing...

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 07:58 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You don’t invest in JP Morgan friends , you invest in JP Morgan. I.e Patrick Mahomes provides limitless amounts of potential so you load him up. For years!!!!! Watch the seed ( pat mahomes) produce fruit</p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1253544884562276352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 04-24-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14929481)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clyde Edwards-Helaire is only about 5-7 and 205, raising questions about whether he will ever be a regular featured back. The Chiefs and GM Brett Veach doesn&#39;t have those doubts.<br><br>&quot;We certainly view this guy as a franchise-type running back,” Veach said.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1253671553893572608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Adam Teicher has to have an auto-negative response ready to anything the Chiefs do.

Marcellus 04-24-2020 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14929520)
Crazy how so many people on here talked about never taking an RB in the 1st round before the draft. Now that Veach does it he is a genius.

Veach has earned the benefit of the doubt, everyone else is just a poster on a message board. And I don't see anyone calling him a "genius" for the pick.

FloridaMan88 04-24-2020 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14929525)
I’ve decided I’m good with this pick. Cringed at a round 1 RB last night but it was #32, and seems like an outstanding fit.

CEH will be a versatile RB and add numerous dimensions to the Chiefs offense.

Also it's not like they used a top 10 pick in the first round on a RB... it was at #32.

neech 04-24-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14929484)
Said this several times, the idea you can just move down is a bit stupid, someone else has to want your pick.

It takes two to Tango as the saying goes.

BigRedChief 04-24-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14929172)
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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CEH caught 15 more passes than Henry Ruggs last season. <br><br>CEH is a running back. <br><br>Ruggs was the first WR taken in the draft.</p>&mdash; 🎙 (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1253676490962632704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.6787510241df65d128e2b60207ad4c25.html?origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: medium none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe" frameborder="0"></iframe>

MahomesMagic 04-24-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14929601)
CEH will be a versatile RB and add numerous dimensions to the Chiefs offense.

Also it's not like they used a top 10 pick in the first round on a RB... it was at #32.

Good point and what made me excited was the idea that CEH in the Reid offense is a WR too.

mlyonsd 04-24-2020 08:05 AM

I can't imagine getting drafted by the reigning SB champs and being told on the draft call that you were the guy Patrick ****ing Mahomes wanted.

Chris Meck 04-24-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 14929607)
I can't imagine getting drafted by the reigning SB champs and being told on the draft call that you were the guy Patrick ****ing Mahomes wanted.

This guy's going to run through walls for Patrick.

Shields68 04-24-2020 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNTEICHER (Post 14929506)
A couple of reasons picking a RB at 32 makes sense.
Without an off season program a running back can still step in and be productive quickly.
The 5th year allows the Chiefs to keep him for 5 years and move on without dropping huge money on a RB.

How the draft ended up the best value at the time was S's, DT's or RB's

Rb's probably best fit if confident Jones is resigning.

FloridaMan88 04-24-2020 08:11 AM

Green Bay did not draft an offensive skill position player in the first round during Aaron Rodgers' 15 year career until last night (which was a QBOTF).

It's great to see that Veach is not going to make that same mistake, and instead will continue to surround Mahomes with as much weaponry as possible.

Stryker 04-24-2020 08:15 AM

From Baton Rouge to Kansas City - another gift from us to you! ;)

I never expected this draft pick at all but man am I glad they selected him. This is going to be awesome!

Chris Meck 04-24-2020 08:17 AM

also, on a positive note, UChieffybugger will shut the **** up now.

neech 04-24-2020 08:18 AM

Does he have a nickname in college? Typing out that name is a lot of work for my fingers.


"The Bull" would be nice perhaps.

Bwana 04-24-2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14929631)
also, on a positive note, UChieffybugger will shut the **** up now.

LMAO

I highly doubt that.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2020 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neech (Post 14929634)
Does he have a nickname in college? Typing out that name is a lot of work for my fingers.


"The Bull" would be nice perhaps.

What about AstroClyde. Like Astroglyde because he’s so slippery when trying to tackle him

kcclone 04-24-2020 08:23 AM

I look at this guy as protection for Mahomes. At times last year, we had very little ability to run the ball, which allows the defense to tee off on the pass rush. We know Williams is talented, but he's often injured, and in his last year under contract.

lawrenceRaider 04-24-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 14929047)

Prisco is a moron.

I was hoping the Raider traded back from 19 picking up a 2nd rounder, and drafted this guy. With Jacobs and Helaire in the backfield, Raiders O would have been stupid, especially with the Ruggs pick.

Mecca 04-24-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14929647)
What about AstroClyde. Like Astroglyde because he’s so slippery when trying to tackle him

You want to name the RB after anal lube.......uhh.....

neech 04-24-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14928540)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/trY0IFZySXg" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I liked the phone call a lot.

PHOG 04-24-2020 08:28 AM

Another caveat, Clyde has the top wonderlic score (except for some smart ass from BC) and some of the others are dismal.

https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/202...onderlic-exam/

RealSNR 04-24-2020 08:30 AM

Schrager on Good Morning Football:

"There were teams ripping up papers and shouting expletives, FURIOUS that the Chiefs got Clyde Edwards-Helaire like that. They were gearing up to trade up in the 2nd for him, and all of that planning went out the window"

tyreekthefreak 04-24-2020 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14929648)
I look at this guy as protection for Mahomes. At times last year, we had very little ability to run the ball, which allows the defense to tee off on the pass rush. We know Williams is talented, but he's often injured, and in his last year under contract.

Still won't be able to run the ball if the O-line doesn't improve. How many times did we run it straight up the gut for no gain last year???

Answer....A ton!

TomBarndtsTwin 04-24-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 14929654)
I liked the phone call a lot.

Interesting listening to that phone call. Seems like they were hyper-focused on CEH all along and he was the pick, barring a great trade offer from someone else to move down a little.

Makes me think that if Queen had lasted till 32, they still would have taken CEH.

Veach and company have earned our trust and the offense is going to be even more exciting to watch.

kcclone 04-24-2020 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 14929668)
Still won't be able to run the ball if the O-line doesn't improve. How many times did we run it straight up the gut for no gain last year???

Answer....A ton!


Agree with that to some degree, but we had a banged up OL and no starting RB for a good chunk of the year. Get Rankin back and that helps. Hopefully we can find a contributor on the IOL in the draft still. Hopefully Allegretti is ready to roll this year.

Keeping the OL in tact is helpful as well, especially with an abbreviated pre-season.

FringeNC 04-24-2020 08:37 AM

Not sure if it has been mentioned in the thread, but Joe Burrow said that CEH was clearly the best athlete on the team, and said he'd have a 20-year NFL career. The latter is unlikely, but the former is nice to know.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-24-2020 08:37 AM

What I do like even from the perspective of him being a RB is he is probably going to be equally as much a WR in this offense. It’ll be more like McCaffrey than it will Ezekiel Elliott.

I just don’t see teams holding this offense under 27. It’s going to be 2018 all over again.

Shields68 04-24-2020 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14929674)
Interesting listening to that phone call. Seems like they were hyper-focused on CEH all along and he was the pick, barring a great trade offer from someone else to move down a little.

Makes me think that if Queen had lasted till 32, they still would have taken CEH.

Veach and company have earned our trust and the offense is going to be even more exciting to watch.

It always sounds like the guy was always the pick after the fact. But it also could be a correct assessment that Queen was not going to last to 32 and giving up a 2nd or 3rd to move up was not smart.

Buckweath 04-24-2020 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 14929668)
Still won't be able to run the ball if the O-line doesn't improve. How many times did we run it straight up the gut for no gain last year???

Answer....A ton!

If Veach can draft an IOL in the 2nd to 4th round, I'll feel good about the offense across the board.

The offensive line should be the weakest part but good enough to do what you have to do.

Shields68 04-24-2020 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14929689)
What I do like even from the perspective of him being a RB is he is probably going to be equally as much a WR in this offense. It’ll be more like McCaffrey than it will Ezekiel Elliott.

I just don’t see teams holding this offense under 27. It’s going to be 2018 all over again.

Yeah I see a lot of McCaffrey on tape. Run the Wr deep and have him abuse the LB's in coverage with his quickness of getting into and out of cuts.

Chris Meck 04-24-2020 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 14929668)
Still won't be able to run the ball if the O-line doesn't improve. How many times did we run it straight up the gut for no gain last year???

Answer....A ton!

I know, and now we have NO chance to improve in that area!


chill.

Dayze 04-24-2020 08:45 AM

sounds like CEH has a really good personality for this team. If that's the right wording etc. Isn't all aloof and goofy; seems like he's a good kid.

RunKC 04-24-2020 08:47 AM

Ah so this guy watched this dudes tape embarrassing a powerhouse program like Bama.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One coach told me new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire was the best player he saw on tape in this draft: <br>&quot;He&#39;s such a playmaker. He’s a good ball-carrier, but his value in the pass game is pretty substantial. He never gets tackled by the first guy.&quot;<br><br>Another toy for Andy Reid.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1253537645621325824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

banyon 04-24-2020 08:48 AM

I was hoping for the Fulton kid, but after watching the film it just jumps off the page at you. I’m good

RedSea90 04-24-2020 08:52 AM

Veach asked Mahomes around 5pm “who do you want? “ Mahomes didn’t hesitate to say Helaire. Sounds like he was the focus all along. Guys, were already at that point where they ask Mahomes who the pick will be hahaha. I love it!


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IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14929520)
Crazy how so many people on here talked about never taking an RB in the 1st round before the draft. Now that Veach does it he is a genius.

I don't think it's that, I wanted a fatty and loved Ezra Cleveland, but I think the Chiefs were set on a CB, LB or RB. There was a run on LB's and CB's the 12 picks before. I also was thinking swift, but once you watch tape on both for our offense, I love this pick.

jd1020 04-24-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 14929742)
I don't think it's that, I wanted a fatty and loved Ezra Cleveland, but I think the Chiefs were set on a CB, LB or RB. There was a run on LB's and CB's the 12 picks before. I also was thinking swift, but once you watch tape on both for our offense, I love this pick.

I havent done **** all in looking at prospects but when the Chiefs pick was getting near I took a gander at the board and I was really surprised when a lot of people were calling for Swift. After all the shit McCoy was getting for fumbles people were wanting a guy who reportedly had one of the worst carry to fumble ratios? Interesting.

Glad we didnt go that route.

Sounds like CEH is a 3 down back who can change direction on a dime, hard to tackle, doesnt fumble, and good in the pass game. Sounds like a much better RB to me.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-24-2020 09:05 AM

Gonna be firmly in the ROYconversation. You cant cover this guy coming out of the backfield and one guy doesnt bring himdown. He's the best receiving RB to come in years. The fit in this offense in ridiculous. I didnt know that about him coming out. Schrager says he may have been his favorite player in this draft. Mahomes unstoppable next year.

Gotta say it one more time. His route running, cuts, catching out of the backfield is truly elite. He's on his own level in that regard. And this kid routinely in space will crush the soul of any defense. Guranteed. Chiefs won the draft on this pick, per Schrager.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14929762)
I havent done **** all in looking at prospects but when the Chiefs pick was getting near I took a gander at the board and I was really surprised when a lot of people were calling for Swift. After all the shit McCoy was getting for fumbles people were wanting a guy who reportedly had one of the worst carry to fumble ratios? Interesting.

Glad we didnt go that route.

Sounds like CEH is a 3 down back who can change direction on a dime, hard to tackle, doesnt fumble, and good in the pass game. Sounds like a much better RB to me.

and I think he had only 1 fumble in college.

smithandrew051 04-24-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 14929771)
Gonna be firmly in the ROYconversation. You cant cover this guy coming out of the backfield and one guy doesnt bring himdown. He's the best receiving RB to come in years.

And he’s going to the perfect situation. We have the deep and intermediate threats to create space for him.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2020 09:08 AM

One thing from watching him in the 'Bama game... I hope we stay far away from Diggs in this draft.


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