This is basically a haley vs bieniemy situation all over again. Starting with dictating what scheme EB should run on both sides of the ball. Especially since Houston can use his inexperience against him just as Pioli did with haley. Yeah, I'd stay away from that with a 10 foot pole.

It's also a pretty gigantic pay bump he'd be turning down. If this is his only chance, even if it ends in failure as most do, it's an opportunity to make a lot of money next few years. Should have no trouble finding OC jobs after that if he wants to keep coaching.

Yep.

EB has been on the market to be a head coach for a couple of years now and whether he has not been hired for good reasons or bad, he has not been hired. If he receives an offer from the Texans and no other team offers, can he really afford to turn it down? Would turning down the Texans hurt any future chances to get an offer? The Texans may be worse than a dumpster fire right now, but even if he takes the job and fails, the experience is invaluable. Belichick coached the Browns and they were a dumpster fire too, but he still managed to parlay that failure into a pretty good gig.

It depends on how hell-bent he is on being a HC and whether he believes in his own personal pride and dignity.

If I were in his shoes, making the kind of money he is now, I would absolutely tell the Texans to get stuffed. I wouldn't work for people like that.

If he’s been offered the Texans job after not getting a job last year, he should take it. I know the resources will be less than other teams, but he already has a really good QB and that’s 2/3 the battle in building an nfl team.

Even if they ended up offering the job it'd always sting to know you weren't offered primarily on your own merits but to appease Watson. They weren't even interested in interviewing him before Watson let it be known how pissed off he was.

Why are there still teams that don't see that the Patriot way is nonsense and it was about 80% Tom Brady? Are there any examples of successful Patriot castoffs out there?

The Texans are going to do what Pioli did to the Chiefs but top it by running off a franchise QB

You assume that he'll have a good QB and Watson doesn't still want out after the dust settles.

Yep. No person with any dignity would take a job under those circumstances.

It's just like Gunther coming back to be Vermeil's DC after getting fired over the phone three years earlier.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was on 2 then I took it to 10</p>&mdash; Deshaun Watson (@deshaunwatson) <a href="https://twitter.com/deshaunwatson/status/1350177165426491393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Didn't somebody say this earlier in the week? I mean, this looks like Watson confirming it.

Found it. It was Schefter, on Sunday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also worth noting: One source said this week that, after Houston traded Pro Bowl wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins last off-season, Deshaun Watson’s anger level was “a 2….This time, it’s a 10.” <a href="https://t.co/CsqZYbe3OK">https://t.co/CsqZYbe3OK</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1348299187968999424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If he was a fan of "Spinal Tap" he'd be at 11.

The Patriot Way may be a prescribed burn. After Mangini with the Jets. Two AFC Championship games. After McDaniels in Denver. Manning and two Super Bowls. After Pioli & Crennel KC gets PMII.

The Texans could have kept Watson or traded him for enough picks to start over. With non Patty Melts

A source close to Deshaun Watson told SI.com that Watson "just wants out” of the Texans.

This comes after Watson tweeted his frustrations with the Texans' front office. Watson has a fractured relationship with EVP Jack Easterby and reportedly considers owner Cal McNair’s remarks regarding their relationship "patronizing." The Texans didn't consult Watson before hiring GM Nick Caserio and failed to interview Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy, who Watson recommended, during the Wild Card round. The Texans may have to pick between keeping Watson and firing Easterby this offseason.

Pioli once hoodwinked Clark. Remember- Clark didn't want to fire Pioli initially. He was his friend, after all. Even brought him along and had him eat shit on the committee that hired Andy Reid.

It took Andy saying, "Uhh... this ain't gonna work... he's gonna have to go" for Clark to finally get Pioli the **** out of here.

If Patriot AIDS puts that much of a spell on owners like that, we should consider ourselves lucky that Clark managed to beat it and finally wake up. I don't know if McNair will do the same. He might just deem Jack Easterby to be more valuable to his football team than a ****ing franchise QB.

And that's pretty sad.

Firing Easterby is a starting point. They'll probably have to hire EB too along with some other concessions. Frankly, they should. The franchise will be much better off if they do what Watson wants here than if they decide to cut ties and move on without him.

They should fire Easterby and then hire EB. EB could bring over Poles with him. That would be about the only way to keep Watson.

It's no secret deshaun wasn't happy about the Hopkins trade. It doesn't seem like he liked Obrien too much especially after that. What level of morons fires a head coach like Bill O'Brien then hires the GM Obrien wanted to hire.

Fire Easterby. Tell Caserio he better form a good relationship with Watson or he is going to be given a job where he sits in his office all day with a thumb up his ass.

I'll say it again... How is there zero accountability for owners? Bad owners should be fired. Not only does Cal McNair come off as a doofus, his wife is berating season ticket holders for jabbing at Easterby? What a shit show. Deshaun needs to get out and Bieniemy needs to stay a million feet away from this.

You can’t fire an owner LMAO

I think what really surprises me the most out of this whole ordeal is that there is plenty of evidence out here that does show that the Patriot Way does just not work.

You would think a bunch of billionaire owners would realize this by now.

I didn't say you could. I said it's so bad for football that you can't.

I know you weren’t saying you could, but it sounds like you think you should be able to.

But fans can hire a plane and fly a banner around the stadium...

There absolutely needs to be a way to hold bad owners accountable for poor performance. It's crazy to think otherwise.

There is.

The fans have to respond accordingly. Unfortunately, most fans are dumb.

If I were a Texans fan, I’d be boycotting until at least Easterby’s gone.

LMAO The owners wife confiscated a sign when they tried.

But yeah, it sounds like that type of protest is already in the works.

I honestly think the Texans have no choice but to hire Bieniemy.

The longer this goes without hearing anybody else connected to them, and the worse things get in the media and with the fans, the more likely it is that they will cave to their fans and franchise QB’s demands.

That's just going to prolong it. They really need to fire Easterby but for some reason Call won't do it.

Oh I forgot to add firing Easterby too. Yea obviously that has to be done as well.

Well we did that. There was an organization called SOC (Save Our Chiefs) when the Pioli fiasco was spiraling out of control back then.

We flew banners on planes. We wore black for blacking out Arrowhead. We stopped going to games.

There is nothing fans can do. Skins fans and knicks fans have tried for 2 decades. McNair will throw Easterby under the bus and then another guy then another guy. McNair will never lose money off of this. He just makes less when they lose.

That was a general manager. For an owner who is very good at his job.

Lol wut?

There absolutely is. If fans stopped going to games and supporting the team entirely, their voices would be heard.

Like I said, unfortunately most fans are dumb or don’t care enough.

This is true, but the above still can be applied, because the owner will lose money if fans don't come to games, especially now in a pandemic.

I'm sure that Hunt's bottom line numbers took a hit one way or another in that year. And for a owner who is really smart, and did what he needed to do after the fact (meeting with Andy and honoring Andy's wishes that working with Pioli wasn't going to work). That has to be acknowledged, because Hunt could have simply ignored us and continue to push on with the Pioli bullshit narrative.

It just comes down to how the owner is perceived. Like the Bengals owner, he's a cheapskate bastard. Same applies to Bidwell at the time.

That strategy has worked extremely well in Detroit and Washington.

Do fans not still go to games?

Holy shit LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Faced with the possibility of the Texans hiring a G.M. who would marginalize or fire him, Jack Easterby reportedly persuaded owner Cal McNair to join in a prayer for enlightenment <a href="https://t.co/FowKtKZBsb">https://t.co/FowKtKZBsb</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1350519975417667588?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JFC this guy is a masterful grifter.

The problem with sports owners is they have no skin in the game. They don't lose money. They just make less when they lose. Many owners have made it an art to spend just cheap enough to put butts in seats

What. The. ****.

LOL

Maybe EB is lucky that they don't want him. Watson is gonna be pulling a James Harden there pretty soon.

This is false. The owners do have skin in the game. They're the ones that is pushing for the 18 game schedule. They're the ones that pushed the playoff format change. They have skin in the game.

Most of their issues is the lack of empathy, lack of common sense, and poor timing in today's events. In this case, McNair's timing in this situation overall, is just lousy. Basically ignored all that money put into the search committee's recommendations, and went on its own way. That's just lousy planning/timing. Essentially, replacing a failed New England Patriot way with another New England Patriot way, that has a high probability of failure.

Finally, if you have a super star QB on your team, your best bet as an owner, should listen to him and get his feedback and take that into consideration, because if you don't (which happened in this case), not only you just alienate your best player, you also potentially alienate a lot of players on your team and potentional free agents. Nobody is going to touch Houston with a 10 foot pole.

Texans fans seem to be the in bargaining stage of grief right now. Trying to rationalize these series of events. Saying the media is wrong and that Easterby will not have any power under Caserio, etc. It is too bad they still have Patriot AIDS.

30 for 30. What if I told you a religious cult took over an NFL team?

We already seen it here with the Royals.

Really? Isn't there a few instances of leagues forcing the sale of owners.

Only if they do something really egregious. Simply not caring about their team or being bad at running their team is not grounds for it. If so the Ford family would of long been relieved of the Lions.

Again, they have upside potential. They don't have downside risk. They're not going to lose money from owning a team. They just lose out on opportunities to make even more money. With revenue sharing and the insane public benefits theyre going to make money even if they suck for decades. By the way, the fans don't have power either because owners can threaten to leave the city. See kroenke and the Rams.

Talk about a cooshy situation. The NFL is an oligopoly but refuses to fire their owners. Ideally the cities that host nfl teams should hold owners accountable but they're afraid of the NFL moving their team. So they're protected on both ends.

In the next prayer session Easterby will convince McNair to sell the team to Joel Osteen.

He'd convince him to sell it to himself. He's a ****ing conman. Conmen don't run schemes for someone else's benefit.

Easterby is such a treacherous loathsome snake. I can't ****ing believe we had him in our building once upon a time.

He's everything despicable about the Patriots turned up to 11.

He better hope and ****ing pray he duped McNair enough to make sure he stays around. I don't see this guy getting a job in the NFL ever again. Hell, I don't know about ANY job ever again. Who would want to do business with this twat?

So some people that cover the Texans are saying JJ Watt wants out and is close to going public with it...they think he'll be let go. Their relationship with Watson is irreparably damaged...

Rightfully so.

JJ Watt going public is probably game over for Easterby.

Wow. That SI story is unreal.

The McNairs sound like complete baffoons with zero backbone.

I hope Watson continues to stand his ground. Good for him.

What the hell position did Easterby hold with the Chiefs? What a slimey snake he appears to be. I’ll bet him and Pioli are good friends?

Watson is doing everything he can to get us those 2 3rd round comp picks.

Thank you Watson!

All jokes aside, I really do think they’re going to hire Bieniemy and try to smooth things over. I also expect Easterby to be gone.

Character development. Of course it was Piolis brilliant brainchild to hire him in kc. He was the first character coach to be hired in the NFL.

Houston hires Nick Caserio to be GM
 

Would they hire Bieniemy even if the team is dead to Watson?

The idea behind that hire would be keeping Watson, not hiring Bieniemy and still trading Watson away

As Somerset told Mills, "you can't afford to be this naïve."

It would not surprise me if these dipshits sneak in jerod mayo. Patriots gonna patriot, and by that point he might be the only one left.

I agree with you, but the owners would never agree to it for the simple reason that you never want a fish to leave the poker table. The more Cal McNairs there are in the league the easier it is for everyone else to win. Unless he's doing something that could actively cost them money (Donald Sterling), he's going to be around, because he's one less person to worry about taking competent coaches, executives, and players from the available pool.

Why am I not surprised in the least that this guy was created by Pioli...

"Prior to joining the Patriots, Easterby served the Kansas City Chiefs organization for the 2011 and 2012 seasons in character development in a role created through the vision of Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli."

Beinemy would be a fool to take this job if Easterby is still there.

He smarter than that.

Pretty sure he was introduced to Pioli by Ryan Succop.

I'm not saying I wanted him to kill him, but would I have been disappointed if Belcher had kneecapped Pioli before peeling his own cap?

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.yqjJsC...K?pid=Api&rs=1

That team has two stars, and both are pissed and want out.

It gets weirder. Also, something in this paragraph seems amiss...

"While he was at USC, former Gamecock kicker Ryan Succop invited Easterby to speak to the Kansas City Chiefs, where Succop was playing at the time. Easterby made such an impression on coach Andy Reid and general manager Scott Pioli, who is now back with the Patriots, that they hired him to be the team’s chaplain in 2011."

Wouldn’t be shocked if this “character coach” didn’t see the signs of instability with Belcher and is partly responsible for the incident because of some ****ed up thing he said to Belcher that he thought would be beneficial.

No, I don’t think he told Belcher to murder Perkins and himself, but I could see something innocuous like, “People depend on you and you’re failing them right now” or some shit like that getting stuck in the craw of an unstable man’s brain and causing him to go off the deep end

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is a growing sense from people in and around the Texans’ organization that Deshaun Watson has played his last snap for the team. It’s early in the off-season, there’s a lot of time left, but Watson’s feelings cannot and should not be underestimated.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1350877652291383300?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If I was Houston it would take four 1st round picks to get him.

What a nightmare for that org and fanbase lolol

Lol that Cal McNair is derisively called Tommy Boy.

https://defector.com/jack-easterby-c...ouston-texans/

Yeah. Even if Houston fires Easterby and hires Bieniemy, I think Deshaun is done with that team.

If that's the case, we're down to Los Diego and... Philly?

Damn...

Football team needs to make that trade

A team run by professionals would turn those 4 picks into serious draft picks, but this is the Texans. For them, one in the hand is worth 10 in the bush. If they were smart, and they're not, they would do whatever it takes to rectify the situation with Watson and move forward from there. Since they're stupid, they'll lose Watson and won't see any benefit that compares to the loss.

Rat Jr should already be calling. Offer those ****s Jimmy G on a cheap deal along with picks and I bet they do it