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You watch that clip I just posted of him dusting the entire 49ers secondary. Pringle never does shit like that. He's good at catching the ball and falling down. |
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We literally might have the greatest GM in football. |
Chris guys please stop comparing Juju to Byron. Juju is a household name and for good reason. No one outside of the KC fanbase has any damn clue who Byron Pringle is.
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He just had 830 yards and 9 TDs 2 years ago. This year, he’s was injured, and the Steelers have 2 really young talented WRs that they make more of an effort to get the ball to. No, JuJu is not as young and talented as those 2 guys. But he’s much better than Zay Jones and Byron Pringle. |
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Okay, you don't want a LTC deal? Cool - I don't want to guarantee your $10 million then. We meet in the middle, guarantee only a small fraction of it, get that same year 1 cap relief by plowing the remainder into NLTBE incentives and we move along. This is a DAMN sight more palatable than $10+ million on a make-good deal. And it's also why I'm not sure why everyone was so certain it was an amazing deal when it was announced. Most of y'all would get absolutely barbecued at a negotiating table, wouldn't you? It wasn't an amazing deal at $10 million guaranteed and hopefully the demonstration of what a fair deal in this scenario actually is helps some recognize that fact. |
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vs 3M base and the rest in incentives is quite different. |
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Makes a bit more sense that it's an incentive-laden contract. Makes me wonder, now, if the Chiefs were less interested in a long-term deal than JuJu.
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2020 wasn't horrible but it wasn't top 10 WRs or anything. I'd take 97 receptions for 831 yards and 9 TDs here as a WR2. |
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That would clear up a lot of money for JuJu. You never know. |
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What exactly does Clay think Pringle is? Guys - that dude is FAST. And he's very quick. He just had no earthly idea what he was doing out there because he came out of a lousy offensive system. Then by the time he figured it out, he'd aged out of his prime. Shit happens. But Pringle has exceptional physical tools. Do y'all not remember the training camp races when he was toasting everyone? My recollection was that he was stride for stride with Hardman, no? Byron is a fantastic athlete. SS is a technician. I really don't understand what's difficult about this or even moderately controversial. |
Our offense is fine..always has been always will be....JuJu fills a void...Pat wanted a veteran receiver...
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I'm contrasting reality vs. where the thread started. |
Not a fan of JuJu that's not a bad contract. Don't think this move does much though.
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Big Ben already started to drop off and he was competing with 2 young talented guys for targets. |
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Now all of a sudden we're talking about a very low risk acquisition. Very little actual investment. Really makes me think they get a shiny new rookie WR. OR TRADE FOR METCALF MWAHAHAHAHA |
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Pringle had 3 tds in the playoffs last year
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Why you think everyone wanted him replaced on kickoffs constantly? |
If we can get an Alec Pierce or Jalen Tolbert in the 2nd-3rd round range....then this offense is tits. All we would need is Pierre Strong Jr. in the backfield.
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And yes, your memory is correct regarding the TC race with Hardman. |
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LOL who the **** do you think he'll be competing with here? Do me a favor - block me. You seem to have this unhealthy fascination with needing to reply to *damn near* everything I post and taking the opposite side, representing my arguments as something they aren't. You're exactly the type of person Parker was referencing earlier - everything has to be a ****ing fight. Have a good night. |
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What exactly do you ****ing expect for 10 mil mostly in incentives and the 3rd option in the passing game? Not my problem that you’re a ****ing moron. |
Things are getting spicy up in here.
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You really rather see him getting those at 6.5 yards/target than Hill, Kelce or even Hardman? If he's going to be worth those incentives, he absolutely has to be better than he was in 2020. That's incredibly inefficient and does more to hurt our offense than help it. Give me his 2019 numbers and scale them up to a full season and I'll be content. That's 6 targets/gm, roughly 100 over a 17 game season and about 800 yards receiving on SUBSANTIALLY greater efficiency. I can live with that. I think it's still more than I'd want to spend on what I perceive as a luxury item, but I recognize that the Chiefs do not think that and as such I'll view the production in a vacuum and call it good. |
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Most people read that post and understand it’s saying Juju has upside partly because nobody really knows what he can do with a HOF QB in his prime, like he’s going to have in KC…because Ben has been on the steep decline for awhile. |
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Honestly, I’m not even all that concerned with his production. I just like the fit with Hardman and Hill, and how he compliments those guys. I think he’ll have an impact, and gives us our best trio of WRs we’ve had during the Mahomes era. That’s all that matters to me. |
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Pringle actually has really good COD and so does JuJu. Pringle 3-cone: 6.87 JuJu 3-cone: 6.93 Pringle Short-Shuttle: 4.22 JuJu Short-Shuttle: 4.18 Both are 6'1". Not much apart in the 40 based on size either, Pringle ran 4.46 at 203 and Juju ran 4.54 at 215. |
I guess we aren't trading for Metcalf
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Jk Not even close |
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The eye test should tell you, in pads and on the field, JuJu is far more explosive than Pringle. |
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He’s somehow a bigger bundle of sticks than you. |
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I'd take 2019 w/ Watkins over this...SO FAR. I'm getting warm and fuzzies thinking the Chiefs go WR early in the draft. |
I think DJLN is an amazing poster, but reading pages and pages of his template-based posts is like staring at the sun for an entire afternoon. I’m blind now and just want to wander through traffic.
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LMAO You have the worst eyes on the forum. And when the numbers come in to back up what DJ and I are telling you, you just double down on stupid. |
How soon is the DK trade getting announced now that we have our slot?
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Watkins might be better than JuJu (the rare occasion he was on the field), but Hardman coming off the stretch he had towards the end of the season makes that an easy choice. |
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And I'm a dude who absolutely loves Byron Pringle. I would have taken him back. He had a really nice season.
JuJu just brings a different element he can't. There's nothing Pringle did that JuJu can't do, and do better. This will be like having a healthy Watkins. |
3.5 mil hard to get worked up about even though I'm not sold on JuJu. Certainly more forgivable than that Frank Clark abortion.
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Detox is right, you’re a dipshit. The eye test is where I drew my conclusions to begin with. The numbers simply corroborate it. Pringle has borderline #1 receiver baseline athleticism. You don’t know what you’re watching. |
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I bet his numbers tank next season without Mahomes. |
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Byron Pringles career high in receiving yards in a game is 75. Explosive!!
Edit: wait I was wrong. 2 years ago he had a 109 yard game. Explosive! |
Ketchup Sammies!!!
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CP civil wars are fun. I'm supplying OTW with memes and DJ with templates. You Schusterbaters are about to be embarrassed
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EXPLOSIVE #1 RECEIVER ABILITY GETS CAUGHT BY LINEBACKER https://i.imgur.com/OVix4dS.gif |
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Look, i'm sure JuJu is capable of having a nice 700 yard season here. If that's the metric that people think matters, then great. Im of the opinion that a bologna sammich could get that here, in that role, with Mahomes, Kelce and Hill doing all the real work. Some guy to soak up free yards isn't what i had in mind, but rather a legitimate threat that a defense needs to be aware...one that could actually cause a defense to lose focus on Hill/Kelce etc, or REALLY punish a defense when they dont |
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Juju never received that 2nd big contract, 1 year deal filled with incentives? He’s betting on himself. I’ll take a motivated Juju all ****ing day long.
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