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bsp4444 01-04-2023 09:00 PM

17 point lead down to 1. Tigers not getting ANY 2nd chance opportunities.

petegz28 01-04-2023 09:03 PM

So a slap across the arms is a jump ball??? Okay.....

Dartgod 01-04-2023 09:03 PM

Still have the lead, just need to go on a run of our own. It starts with defense.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-04-2023 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsp4444 (Post 16710454)
17 point lead down to 1. Tigers not getting ANY 2nd chance opportunities.

They were up 17 at one point? Yikes.

I mean, losing to Arky on the road is not a bad loss. They’re probably a better team than Mizzou. But you can’t lose a 17 point lead on the road and have any chance of winning. That’s just not gonna happen.

bsp4444 01-04-2023 09:10 PM

Kobe Brown needs to dunk about half of those soft layups that are getting blocked.

Dartgod 01-04-2023 09:12 PM

Looking like they did against KU now.

petegz28 01-04-2023 09:14 PM

Big hack not called under the basket along with a terrible call on the out of bounds that should have been on Arkansas. MU not getting many breaks from the Refs right now....

dlphg9 01-04-2023 09:24 PM

Dude, not gonna beat many teams when theyve shot 72% in the half so far. Ridiculous.

petegz28 01-04-2023 09:25 PM

JFC, Honor mugged all the way down the court and still made the basket...Refs are going SEC Refs on us....

Pepe Silvia 01-04-2023 09:26 PM

Arkansas got too hot in the second half.

dlphg9 01-04-2023 09:27 PM

This is just ****ing ridiculous. Arky won't miss a shot.

DJ's left nut 01-04-2023 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16710487)
Dude, not gonna beat many teams when theyve shot 72% in the half so far. Ridiculous.

Yeah - this is a classic college snowball road game.

Neutral site or on the road, Arky doesn't go off like this. But the energy the crowd game them just sent them thermonuclear.

Really a pretty damn impressive display. Wish Mizzou could've knocked down 3-4 of those chippies to keep the pressure on and see if Arkansas could keep it up. But Mizzou just kept missing.

dlphg9 01-04-2023 09:27 PM

And every God damn rebound.

Stanley Nickels 01-04-2023 09:28 PM

They’re breaking the zone with long 2s, which you give them all day… they’re just making EVERYTHING

Sure-Oz 01-04-2023 09:33 PM

Arkansas just on fire shooting and out rebounding Mizzou almost 3-1 it seems

Stanley Nickels 01-04-2023 09:35 PM

Man, this must be what it feels like to opposing teams’ fans when Jon Sundvold calls a Mizzou game, except I have to think even Sundvold is nowhere near as biased as this color guy.

duncan_idaho 01-04-2023 09:36 PM

This team is fun, but teams with length and athleticism advantages are going to give them trouble. Sometimes physical ability just can't be overcome.

Gholston is the only Mizzou player who can really create off the bounce when things break down for this unit, beyond Kobe Brown.

DJ's left nut 01-04-2023 09:37 PM

Honestly - I'm more impressed by this loss than I will likely be about most of their wins this year.

Can't do much when the other guys keep drilling contested mid-range jumpers. The defense worked. We got them to do what we wanted them to do.

They just stopped missing.

And Mizzou kept fighting.

This team has heart and talent and are damn well coached.

petegz28 01-04-2023 09:37 PM

Dude just hit our guy in the mouth and no call then they bust a 3….


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Sure-Oz 01-04-2023 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 16710522)
Dude just hit our guy in the mouth and no call then they bust a 3….


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These refs suck too

Stanley Nickels 01-04-2023 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16710527)
These refs suck too

TBF they’ve ****ed both teams equally

Pepe Silvia 01-04-2023 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 16710522)
Dude just hit our guy in the mouth and no call then they bust a 3….


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That was a big no call.

ChiefsCountry 01-04-2023 09:43 PM

Weak foul call there on Arkansas but that doesn't fit the bias

Stanley Nickels 01-04-2023 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 16710529)
TBF they’ve ****ed both teams equally

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16710532)
Weak foul call there on Arkansas but that doesn't fit the bias

It’s been atrocious across the board

petegz28 01-04-2023 09:47 PM

Good loss…Arkansas probably won’t shoot this good the rest of the season.


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petegz28 01-04-2023 09:51 PM

Not going to beat a team that was shooting almost 80%

Sure-Oz 01-04-2023 09:55 PM

Disappointing loss but I'm still feeling pretty good about this team.

petegz28 01-04-2023 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16710557)
Disappointing loss but I'm still feeling pretty good about this team.

It happens. Arkansas couldn't miss a shot if they tried that 2nd half.

JohnnyHammersticks 01-05-2023 09:01 AM

This Isiaih Mosley situation is baffling. Dude seems to have a couple screws loose.

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16710971)
This Isiaih Mosley situation is baffling. Dude seems to have a couple screws loose.

Would've been nice to have him around as another option when we went cold for awhile there.

Just getting to the line and trying to slow Arkansas' momentum would've been a big help. That's the problem with teams that don't have a couple of guys who can get into the lane.

You play on the road in a hostile environment and you need someone that can go draw a foul, knock down a couple shots and just slow the damn game down for a second to try to get your guys back on track.

hawkchief 01-05-2023 12:26 PM

Does Mizzou have a S&C coach? Looks like the team is made up of a bunch of players that have BMI's of about 40%. Reminds me of the old Generals team that played against the Globetrotters.

dlphg9 01-05-2023 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 16711581)
Does Mizzou have a S&C coach? Looks like the team is made up of a bunch of players that have BMI's of about 40%. Reminds me of the old Generals team that played against the Globetrotters.

Wtf is a BMI of 40%

BryanBusby 01-05-2023 01:38 PM

He's saying the players are ****ing fat

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16711829)
He's saying the players are ****ing fat

Nick Honor ain't svelte.

Not sure who else me may be talking about.

ScareCrowe 01-05-2023 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16711726)
Wtf is a BMI of 40%

Body Mass Index. It's a rating based on a your height & weight. 35%-39.9% is considered morbidly obese.

Dartgod 01-05-2023 06:40 PM

Just a beaker trolling the MU thread. We don't have to worry about him anymore.

dlphg9 01-06-2023 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe (Post 16712570)
Body Mass Index. It's a rating based on a your height & weight. 35%-39.9% is considered morbidly obese.

I've never seen BMI as a percentage

duncan_idaho 01-06-2023 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16711998)
Nick Honor ain't svelte.

Not sure who else me may be talking about.

Kaleb Brown?

Who probably should have given it a go as a LT in football at 300+ pounds, since that's what his body apparently wants to do, anyway.

DJ's left nut 01-06-2023 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16714270)
Kaleb Brown?

Who probably should have given it a go as a LT in football at 300+ pounds, since that's what his body apparently wants to do, anyway.

I don't think I've ever actually seen him on the floor...

duncan_idaho 01-06-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16714287)
I don't think I've ever actually seen him on the floor...

He was - maddeningly - playing a lot in the early games. Thankfully, that hasn't continued.

dlphg9 01-07-2023 11:47 AM

This D can be really good. Theyve been making teams work their asses off just to get a shot off before the shot clock expires.

DJ's left nut 01-07-2023 12:17 PM

They're lucky to be in this game, let alone leading it, after getting their asses kicked as badly as they did on the boards in the first half.

And yeah, they're a little short, but they're not weak. This is a physically strong lineup - they shouldn't be getting bullied like that. That's an execution/effort problem.

DJ's left nut 01-07-2023 12:19 PM

Really liked seeing Gholston step up when Brown was still trying to find his footing to start the half. They need that secondary scoring in a big way for just these sorts of moments.

It'll keep Brown from getting a little to anxious when he's out of sorts. If he feels like he's all they've got, he'll jack up ill-advised shots even when he's missing. So if we can get that consistent secondary scoring it'll make things easier for everyone.

DJ's left nut 01-07-2023 01:58 PM

Ugly win, but a win all the same.

Man, they just cannot get beat around the rim like that.

dlphg9 01-07-2023 02:14 PM

Good lord out rebounded 46 to 27 and allowed 15 offensive rebounds. If this team could rebound just a little better and at the very least stop teams from getting so many offensive boards, then this could very well be a top 10 team.

Pepe Silvia 01-07-2023 02:18 PM

Had a feeling Vandy would play good today but got the win. This is why it will be tough to get 10 -11 conference wins, that’s my goal for this team.

DJ's left nut 01-07-2023 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16717238)
Good lord out rebounded 46 to 27 and allowed 15 offensive rebounds. If this team could rebound just a little better and at the very least stop teams from getting so many offensive boards, then this could very well be a top 10 team.

We don't have a true center.

We're gonna be bad at rebounding. We just can't be THAT bad.

So many of those offensive boards weren't an issue of guys being bigger/stronger than we were. We just didn't have anyone there boxing out at all. And on several our technique was bad; no read off the rim at all so balls were just ricocheting over any of our guys because they weren't reading the miss to try to position themselves.

They can definitely improve in the area even if it will always be a bit of a weakness.

dlphg9 01-11-2023 08:56 PM

****ing just jacking up 3's.

And ****ing D'Moi Hodge with a ****ing monster dunk!

They're 1/14 now from 3 and just keep looking to shoot it.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2023 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16729414)
****ing just jacking up 3's.

And ****ing D'Moi Hodge with a ****ing monster dunk!

They're 1/14 now from 3 and just keep looking to shoot it.

Hodge seems content to shoot them right out of it.

It's a Clarence Gilbert game. Make, miss - don't matter, he's shooting.

Now the upshot with Gilbert was that on occasion he'd be absolutely unconscious and flat steal you a game. But then he'd be 1/11 from deep and still jack up a transition 3 to get to 1/12...

Just is what it is with guys like that. Sometimes you can only throw your hands up, say "well you take with the good with the bad" and hope he got it out of his system...

Pepe Silvia 01-11-2023 09:05 PM

Opponents are starting to shoot white hot again and now Mizzou has gone ice cold. Not good.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2023 09:27 PM

I've seen a lot of big comebacks in college basketball, some succeed and some fail.

The ones that fail seemingly always come down to a single possession in the middle of a hard run where someone takes an ill advised shot that misses or a wide-ass open shot that misses.

And then the opponent answers and the air is let out of the balloon.

Mizzou battled that sucker down to 49-53 with the ball in their hands and Hodge puts up a challenged 3 that gets blocked. Then after a predictable Aggie offensive board, Mizzou fouls, A&M makes 'em both and Mizzou immediately turns the ball over, fouls again and puts them right back on the line for 2 more.

From getting blocked on a possession that could've made it a 1 point game to down 8 in about 90 seconds of gameplay.

As soon as that shot got blocked I thought "****, is THAT the play where the air came out of the balloon?"

90 seconds later, it sure as hell felt like it.

Damn.

Pepe Silvia 01-11-2023 09:30 PM

Ever since A&M hired Gillespie years ago they have dominated this series.

dlphg9 01-11-2023 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16729444)
I've seen a lot of big comebacks in college basketball, some succeed and some fail.

The ones that fail seemingly always come down to a single possession in the middle of a hard run where someone takes an ill advised shot that misses or a wide-ass open shot that misses.

And then the opponent answers and the air is let out of the balloon.

Mizzou battled that sucker down to 49-53 with the ball in their hands and Hodge puts up a challenged 3 that gets blocked. Then after a predictable Aggie offensive board, Mizzou fouls, A&M makes 'em both and Mizzou immediately turns the ball over, fouls again and puts them right back on the line for 2 more.

From getting blocked on a possession that could've made it a 1 point game to down 8 in about 90 seconds of gameplay.

As soon as that shot got blocked I thought "****, is THAT the play where the air came out of the balloon?"

90 seconds later, it sure as hell felt like it.

Damn.

I saw them get it down to 4, went to assist a crying kid and came back to a 14 or 15 point game. Was like ****

bsp4444 01-12-2023 07:39 AM

Didn't get to see much of this one, but what I saw was more domination at the boards by the other team. Tigers are really poor at rebounding. And last night gave up way too many easy dunks underneath.

duncan_idaho 01-12-2023 08:09 AM

Last night shined a light at what the Tigers are NOT good at this year: Creating in the half court. Specifically, they really only have one player who is capable/willing to create off the bounce in the half court (Kobe Brown) and teams that have a big that can match up with him physically can limit that.

Gholston has some ability to do that but is limited.

To Dennis Gates' credit, he did line up a player who can do that, but the guy isn't playing for whatever reason he isn't playing.

Titty Meat 01-12-2023 01:21 PM

It seemed like every possession A&M went to the line in the 2nd half. Didn't take away much negative from MU tbh A&M just looked like one of those sneaky sweet 16 teams last night that does every little thing right

dlphg9 01-12-2023 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16729643)
Last night shined a light at what the Tigers are NOT good at this year: Creating in the half court. Specifically, they really only have one player who is capable/willing to create off the bounce in the half court (Kobe Brown) and teams that have a big that can match up with him physically can limit that.

Gholston has some ability to do that but is limited.

To Dennis Gates' credit, he did line up a player who can do that, but the guy isn't playing for whatever reason he isn't playing.

The Mosley situation is ****ing infuriating.

Pepe Silvia 01-12-2023 01:43 PM

How come Mizzou can never recruit size?

DJ's left nut 01-18-2023 08:29 PM

Mosley is playing tonight.

I mean he looks terrible, but so does everyone else.

Is this going to be semi-permanent this time?

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 09:18 PM

Really disappointed in these last few games, they’re not snapping out of this funk.

DJ's left nut 01-18-2023 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16746089)
Really disappointed in these last few games, they’re not snapping out of this funk.

They're actually playing well in this game - just can't hit a damn shot.

Plenty of good looks, smart passes and strong defense. They just can't get shots to fall.

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16746091)
They're actually playing well in this game - just can't hit a damn shot.

Plenty of good looks, smart passes and strong defense. They just can't get shots to fall.

I’m watching on DVR, I’m not caught up yet.

DJ's left nut 01-18-2023 10:03 PM

Yeah, imma go ahead and decide I just don't like Hodge.

Every time we start to build momentum, he'll shoot or foul is right out of it.

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 10:04 PM

They just don’t match up well with Arkansas.

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 10:06 PM

Any chance Musselman leaves Arkansas? Kind of hoping for it.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-18-2023 10:11 PM

Rebounds and free throws.

Arky has out rebounded Mizzou 31-13. They’ve also made 19-22 from the charity stripe.

Story of the game, right there.

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 10:14 PM

Shaw was supposed to be good? Why does every 4 star that Mizzou recruits play like Glen Dandrige?

dlphg9 01-18-2023 10:36 PM

****ing hell, Kobe Brown. That's not a good loss.

Edit

That didn't look too terrible actually. Holy shit, what a comeback. This team has a lot of heart.

Pitt Gorilla 01-18-2023 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16746160)
****ing hell, Kobe Brown. That's not a good loss.

If he's like me, that'll be fine in a few minutes.

dlphg9 01-18-2023 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16746162)
If he's like me, that'll be fine in a few minutes.

He didn't come too far down on it. Should be good to go.

Pitt Gorilla 01-18-2023 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16746089)
Really disappointed in these last few games, they’re not snapping out of this funk.

Is every one of your comments going to be negative?

What are you wanting them to do?

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16746160)
****ing hell, Kobe Brown. That's not a good loss.

Edit

That didn't look too terrible actually. Holy shit, what a comeback. This team has a lot of heart.

He get hurt?

dlphg9 01-18-2023 10:43 PM

Can't believe we actually came back. It's amazing what a competent coach can accomplish.

Boxer_Chief 01-18-2023 10:44 PM

SEC schedule is going to be brutal. This was a huge win to stay afloat.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-18-2023 10:45 PM

Wow. Down 10 with 5 minutes to play, Arky had all the momentum and they pulled it out. Kept getting to the line and making their free throws.

How many Arky guys fouled out? 4? 5?

Crazy game.

Pitt Gorilla 01-18-2023 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16746166)
Can't believe we actually came back. It's amazing what a competent coach can accomplish.

Listening to his postgame is incredible. So much better than the last...well...20+ years?!?

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief (Post 16746167)
SEC schedule is going to be brutal. This was a huge win to stay afloat.

They had to win. I want to believe they can steal one against Alabama but I’m not sure, they’re really good.

Mizzou_8541 01-18-2023 10:50 PM

This is a sweet 16 team.

Pepe Silvia 01-18-2023 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16746164)
Is every one of your comments going to be negative?

What are you wanting them to do?

All I said was that they were in a slump and they were. They were shooting bad for 3 plus games.

Mizzou_8541 01-18-2023 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16746166)
Can't believe we actually came back. It's amazing what a competent coach can accomplish.

I don’t care to go back, but can you imagine all the Kim Anderson/cuonzo Martin nut huggers?


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