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ToxSocks 01-30-2023 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16779614)
Must be another diqlix mult, JFC. LMAO

****. Is it really?

Easy 6 01-30-2023 07:10 PM

I mean, Hollywood couldn't script this any better

Reid faces the team that fired him 10 years ago for all the marbles

Donna Kelce gets to be the first parent to see two sons play against each other for the strap

The very worthy foe Eagles who just absolutely DEMOLISHED a very good team

And I'm no doubt missing 10 other angles... needless to say this will be one for the ages

Now I gotta start brainstorming for the ultimate food and drink ideas

God this is great :arrow:

duncan_idaho 01-30-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Justtalkinfootball (Post 16779589)
Detroit was a million years ago - week 1.
You can’t look at individual games. Any given Sunday. Chiefs lost to the Colts for instance.
I think some of you are cherry picking stats.

Point differential, all games.
Chiefs +137.
Eagles +188.

Opponent winning percentage
Chiefs. .455
Eagles. .475

Common Opponents
Chiefs 5-1
Eagles 6-0

Playoff Teams
Chiefs 9-2
Eagles 9-1

The point isn’t “look what DET did week1”

It’s the the Eagles have faced a very weak slate of offenses overall despite records. They haven’t played one elite QB/offense, really.

Pepe Silvia 01-30-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16779631)
I mean, Hollywood couldn't script this any better

Reid faces the team that fired him 10 years ago for all the marbles

Donna Kelce gets to be the first parent to see two sons play against each other for the strap

The very worthy foe Eagles who just absolutely DEMOLISHED a very good team

And I'm no doubt missing 10 other angles... needless to say this will be one for the ages

Now I gotta start brainstorming for the ultimate food and drink ideas

God this is great :arrow:

Don’t forget it’s played in Glendale, Arizona, there has been so many classic games in that stadium, in multiple sports.

staylor26 01-30-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16779631)
I mean, Hollywood couldn't script this any better

Reid faces the team that fired him 10 years ago for all the marbles

Donna Kelce gets to be the first parent to see two sons play against each other for the strap

The very worthy foe Eagles who just absolutely DEMOLISHED a very good team

And I'm no doubt missing 10 other angles... needless to say this will be one for the ages

Now I gotta start brainstorming for the ultimate food and drink ideas

God this is great :arrow:

Saw today that Willie Gay and AJ Brown were HS teammates and won a state title together.

Bearcat 01-30-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16779626)
****. Is it really?

Glanced at it and perhaps not, but one of diq's things was "just here to talk football", and of course the whole thing with "your stats are bad, look at these stats!"

Maybe they're long lost twins who wander internet football message boards, thinly veiled as football fans, trying to find one another.

BryanBusby 01-30-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Justtalkinfootball (Post 16779589)
Detroit was a million years ago - week 1.
You can’t look at individual games. Any given Sunday. Chiefs lost to the Colts for instance.
I think some of you are cherry picking stats.

Point differential, all games.
Chiefs +137.
Eagles +188.

Opponent winning percentage
Chiefs. .455
Eagles. .475

Common Opponents
Chiefs 5-1
Eagles 6-0

Playoff Teams
Chiefs 9-2
Eagles 9-1

Winning record in NFC =! AFC

smithandrew051 01-30-2023 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16779637)
Saw today that Willie Gay and AJ Brown were HS teammates and won a state title together.

The Chiefs would beat the **** out of that high school team

Easy 6 01-30-2023 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16779637)
Saw today that Willie Gay and AJ Brown were HS teammates and won a state title together.

Layer upon layer of intrigue

Another thing I like, is that we'll certainly get a good clean game from the players... no chance Philly gets dirty with a guy in such high standing like Jason Kelce around

He won't stand for it, nor will Travis on our side

BWillie 01-30-2023 07:20 PM

I like Jalen Hurts and the Eagles. Hard to like Nick Sirianni though. Guy has Todd Haley vibes written all over him. But the NFC is JV. We beat the Niners by like 30. Eagles best win was in week 4 against a Jags team that hadn't even began playing well yet.

Chief Pagan 01-30-2023 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16779631)
I mean, Hollywood couldn't script this any better

Reid faces the team that fired him 10 years ago for all the marbles

Donna Kelce gets to be the first parent to see two sons play against each other for the strap

The very worthy foe Eagles who just absolutely DEMOLISHED a very good team

And I'm no doubt missing 10 other angles... needless to say this will be one for the ages

Now I gotta start brainstorming for the ultimate food and drink ideas

God this is great :arrow:

Can you BBQ a Philly cheese steak?

Stryker 01-30-2023 08:37 PM

Thank GOD the Chiefs D is better at the run game - cause Hurts is going to run - count on it.

Still, our team is focused - we get the DUB! 3rd SB guys - what are you buying this time? Me, SB hat and shirt - Chinese rip off SB ring remake.

Next subject please. :thumb:

Why Not? 01-30-2023 08:40 PM

I know it's early but the more I think about it, the more confident I get about this game. And from some of the posts above, I think the Eagles are better than many seem to think. I just think Andy and Patrick and Co with two weeks are gonna come up with a solid plan. I think our defense is at their highest confidence level. I swear you could see those rookie DB's grow and get better during the course of the AFCCG.

Hammock Parties 01-30-2023 08:42 PM

still no one is talking about how young jalen is

two playoff games, a TOTAL of 270 yards and 2 TD

spags WILL make him win the game throwing

Easy 6 01-30-2023 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16779792)
Can you BBQ a Philly cheese steak?

What could possibly be better than a smoked brisket cheese steak

chinaski 01-30-2023 08:45 PM

My boss and two of my co-workers are from Philadelphia.

Please beat the Eagles. I don't want to hear any of their shit.

Hammock Parties 01-30-2023 08:47 PM

another thing: jalen is 6 foot 1

for a team that leads the league in batting down passes, that is an issue

jalen had 13 in only 460 attempts

Sassy Squatch 01-30-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16779833)
still no one is talking about how young jalen is

two playoff games, a TOTAL of 270 yards and 2 TD

spags WILL make him win the game throwing

It's legit the 49ers in 2020 all over again. Cruised through the NFC posting blowouts in each game. Garoppolo went 17/27 for 249 yards and 1 TD/1 INT COMBINED.

Pepe Silvia 01-30-2023 08:49 PM

The Chiefs held the Jags and Bengals to 20 points each. If they hold Philly to 20? They win the SB.

Hammock Parties 01-30-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16779841)
It's legit the 49ers in 2020 all over again. Cruised through the NFC posting blowouts in each game. Garoppolo went 17/27 for 249 yards and 1 TD/1 INT COMBINED.

we'll get so much more respect this time, though LMAO

Hammock Parties 01-30-2023 08:57 PM

Another thing I will say...the Chiefs know how to play AJ Brown.

They have ample experience defending him...and they know what DOESN'T work LMAO.

The Chiefs are not going to let him win this game.

I'd double AJ the entire game, spy Jalen, and put Sneed on Devonta.

Why Not? 01-30-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16779857)
Another thing I will say...the Chiefs know how to play AJ Brown.

They have ample experience defending him...and they know what DOESN'T work LMAO.

The Chiefs are not going to let him win this game.

I'd double AJ the entire game, spy Jalen, and put Sneed on Devonta.

Our young corners know they've already bested better. Brown and Smith are good but Chase and Higgins with Burrow getting them the ball are better.

Easy 6 01-30-2023 09:11 PM

Siriannis daughter mercilessly mocks dad in front of the world

She's brilliant, I'm in tears LMAO

https://dailycaller.com/2023/01/30/p...ns-super-bowl/

jerryaldini 01-30-2023 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16779279)
Just saw an article pointing out this is the first time 2 black QBs have faced each other in the Super Bowl.

Yeah thought about that before the Bengals game. Burrows (with an s!) was the great white hope this year.

Times have changed. Here's a cool pic of the 67 Chiefs. Look how young Lenny looks. Jan looks like a high school kid. Buck was having fun.

https://i.imgur.com/SXCyUri.jpg

smithandrew051 01-30-2023 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16779833)
still no one is talking about how young jalen is

two playoff games, a TOTAL of 270 yards and 2 TD

spags WILL make him win the game throwing

I’m probably being a homer, but I just don’t see a guy who got benched in the National Championship a few years back beating Patrick Mahomes head to head in the Super Bowl.

I get it’s a team game, but QBs win and lose when the teams are close in talent at all.

Hurts is a nice story and better than I thought he would ever be. But he’s playing Patrick ****ing Mahomes.

FloridaMan88 01-30-2023 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16779833)
still no one is talking about how young jalen is

two playoff games, a TOTAL of 270 yards and 2 TD

spags WILL make him win the game throwing

Also Hurts was terrible vs the 49ers.

That was basically an even game until the 49ers ran out of QB’s.

Justtalkinfootball 01-30-2023 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16779623)
Eagles guy, huh?

Look, Chiefs and Eagles are two teams that got love for each other. Our fan bases got no history and your team is likeable. I got nothing against philly and their fans. I don't want no beef. So welcome to CP.

But stay away from bullshit ass arguments, making shit up etc. Not saying that your post is doing that, i'm just giving you fair warning in advance.

Lets make this an enjoyable, fun SB for everyone.

Lol. Ok. Thanks a lot. Right back at you. You know how insulting it is to be accused of things you are not currently doing and have never done?

I’ve got nothing against KC and my post above is 100% factual. Peace.

RunKC 01-30-2023 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16779841)
It's legit the 49ers in 2020 all over again. Cruised through the NFC posting blowouts in each game. Garoppolo went 17/27 for 249 yards and 1 TD/1 INT COMBINED.

I was thinking that today. Jalen is a product of everyone around him just like Jimmy G was. Stop the run and blitz him and you’ll see good things happen for us.

Hurts threw for 300 yards only 4X all season. He did a great job as a game manager but I don’t have faith in him to carry a team.

Justtalkinfootball 01-30-2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16779908)
Also Hurts was terrible vs the 49ers.

That was basically an even game until the 49ers ran out of QB’s.

The 49ers defence is outstanding. Also, it was a very weird game, One of the strangest I’ve ever seen. The run game was working, so they stuck with it.

Jalen has been on outstanding passer most of the season … He actually has the highest passer rating in the nfl from passes thrown with in the pocket.

Justtalkinfootball 01-30-2023 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16779930)
I was thinking that today. Jalen is a product of everyone around him just like Jimmy G was. Stop the run and blitz him and you’ll see good things happen for us.

Hurts threw for 300 yards only 4X all season. He did a great job as a game manager but I don’t have faith in him to carry a team.

There is a reason why he was the (arguable) favourite to win the MVP up until his chest injury.

Justtalkinfootball 01-30-2023 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16779904)
I’m probably being a homer, but I just don’t see a guy who got benched in the National Championship a few years back beating Patrick Mahomes head to head in the Super Bowl.

I get it’s a team game, but QBs win and lose when the teams are close in talent at all.

Hurts is a nice story and better than I thought he would ever be. But he’s playing Patrick ****ing Mahomes.

The Chiefs have the better quarterback. The Eagles have the better roster.. It should be a good game

jerryaldini 01-30-2023 10:05 PM

I keep seeing hand wringing about our tackles but to my eye OBJ has been very good of late. Don't remember Hendrickson even getting a pressure last night. Even Wylie only surrendered the one sack to Hubbard plus the hold, and we can chip that side. Whole line has really balled out in pass pro since the injury to Mahomes.

My bigger concern is getting the run game going again, and third and short. Can't understand why Joe, Creed and Trey can't get a push up the middle and just sneak Belldozer.

Justtalkinfootball 01-30-2023 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16779958)
I keep seeing hand wringing about our tackles but to my eye OBJ has been very good of late. Don't remember Hendrickson even getting a pressure last night. Even Wylie only surrendered the one sack to Hubbard plus the hold, and we can chip that side. Whole line has really balled out in pass pro since the injury to Mahomes.

My bigger concern is getting the run game going again, and third and short. Can't understand why Joe, Creed and Trey can't get a push up the middle and just sneak Belldozer.

I’ve been under the impression that your OL is one of the best in the league? Have they under performed?

smithandrew051 01-30-2023 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16779958)
I keep seeing hand wringing about our tackles but to my eye OBJ has been very good of late. Don't remember Hendrickson even getting a pressure last night. Even Wylie only surrendered the one sack to Hubbard plus the hold, and we can chip that side. Whole line has really balled out in pass pro since the injury to Mahomes.

My bigger concern is getting the run game going again, and third and short. Can't understand why Joe, Creed and Trey can't get a push up the middle and just sneak Belldozer.

If it makes you feel better, the Eagles allowed the 9th highest yards per carry in the league while the Bengals allowed the 9th fewest yards per carry in the league this year.

smithandrew051 01-30-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Justtalkinfootball (Post 16779970)
I’ve been under the impression that your OL is one of the best in the league? Have they under performed?

Depends who you ask.

The OTs have been shaky at times.

Our center is elite. In conversation with the best in the league.

LG is an absolute technician and great in pass pro. Not a mauler though.

RG is a mauler, but is susceptible to the occasional hold in pass pro.

When they’re clicking, they’re amazing. Pass pro is normally pretty good. RT is the only somewhat constant struggle.

jerryaldini 01-30-2023 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16779972)
If it makes you feel better, the Eagles allowed the 9th highest yards per carry in the league while the Bengals allowed the 9th fewest yards per carry in the league this year.

It definitely does. Didn't know that about the Eagles.

Love to see Pacheco get it going like he did against the Jags, and in the screen game. That run he made before the final scramble he caught the ball 9 yards behind the line and had to make a defender miss to avoid a big loss, ran for 15.

FloridaMan88 01-30-2023 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Justtalkinfootball (Post 16779937)
The 49ers defence is outstanding.

The Chiefs shredded the 49ers defense this season.

500+ yards of total offense.

Mahomes had 423 yards passing and 3 TD's... he had more passing yards in a quarter than Hurts had for the entire game vs. the 49ers.

Sassy Squatch 01-30-2023 10:52 PM

It's pretty telling that the most famous Eagles fan online ended up being a child predator cupcake connoisseur.

smithandrew051 01-30-2023 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16780052)
It's pretty telling that the most famous Eagles fan online ended up being a child predator cupcake connoisseur.

Can you please go back to the Damar avi?

Sassy Squatch 01-30-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16780068)
Can you please go back to the Damar avi?

I'll just go back to kongderp. It's my favorite.

RunKC 01-30-2023 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16779833)
still no one is talking about how young jalen is

two playoff games, a TOTAL of 270 yards and 2 TD

spags WILL make him win the game throwing

My fear is their OL. They are the best OL in the league. They’ve done such a great job drafting linemen.

smithandrew051 01-30-2023 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16780072)
My fear is their OL. They are the best OL in the league. They’ve done such a great job drafting linemen.

They do allow sacks though. 9th highest sack percentage in the league. 12th most sacks allowed.

You’d also think that they’re playing with a lead most of the time and not in as many obvious passing situations (passing to catch up when trailing). Only 1 playoff team had a worse percentage (Giants).

Straight, No Chaser 01-31-2023 12:36 AM

Fearing their pass rush on Mahomes after seeing Purdy get accordioned from the right side by Haason Reddick a bad ass... he will be matched up against Andrew Wylie. Eagles piled up 70 sacks during the regular season.

To the Lab please, Andy, Bienemy, Nagy.

New World Order 01-31-2023 12:43 AM

WBF

RetiredSeniorChief 01-31-2023 01:02 AM

Philadelphia is a rough town to coach and play in, especially after you lose Super Bowl LVII!

Justtalkinfootball 01-31-2023 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16780081)
They do allow sacks though. 9th highest sack percentage in the league. 12th most sacks allowed.

You’d also think that they’re playing with a lead most of the time and not in as many obvious passing situations (passing to catch up when trailing). Only 1 playoff team had a worse percentage (Giants).

A few of the sacks are when hurts takes off but gets tackled for a loss. Not really on the online.

wbbonneriii 01-31-2023 05:25 AM

The thing I see is that the eagles have not played a great offensive team this year…

They played Jax early before they were jelling, they played the cowboys once with Rush and got beat by Dak, and they played the 48ers with their 4th string QB…

I think our offense is about to destroy them…if our defense can make Hurts one dimensional, look out!

Reroka 01-31-2023 05:32 AM

Philly wide receivers are not as fast as Ciny's but they are just as physical. Sure we are going to give up a couple of deep throws but our DB's should be able to hold their own. Jalen Hurts is also not 100% you could tell when he threw the ball. This should be a good game, I am thinking it will be a close game unless we do not get healthy fast.

Why Not? 01-31-2023 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Justtalkinfootball (Post 16780181)
A few of the sacks are when hurts takes off but gets tackled for a loss. Not really on the online.

Lol. Hurts taking off due to pressure and then getting taken down behind the line is still on the Oline. A clear designed run that goes for a loss isn’t considered a sack.

Coochie liquor 01-31-2023 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16779129)
We aren't facing Brady this time.

No, but we’re facing Carl ****ing Cheffers!

straycash 01-31-2023 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16780241)
No, but we’re facing Carl ****ing Cheffers!

I feel eerily calm about this for once, maybe its Pat or hurts or whatever it is.. I feel after this game the 6'th dimension is coming or maybe it is just all black.

Tribal Warfare 01-31-2023 06:15 AM

Eagles allowed 33 points against the ghost of Aaron Rodgers. If that's the baseline for their output combating a mentally checked out elite QB then they're in deep shit.

Verse234 01-31-2023 07:39 AM

Many of his sacks are designed runs. Lane Johnson and Jayson Kelce are both All Pros and havent allowed a sack this year. The Eagles Offensive and Defensive lines are two of the best in the NFL. I love this test for the Eagles, Mahomes is great and may win the MVP but Hurts is also a finalist for the MVP. The match ups favors the Eagles in wr rb secondary and both lines. Kelce is a beast but Dallas Goddert is dangerous as well. The Chiefs have the experience but the birds have more talent. Gonna be a great game. Thanks for having me

Danguardace 01-31-2023 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16780232)
The thing I see is that the eagles have not played a great offensive team this year…

They played Jax early before they were jelling, they played the cowboys once with Rush and got beat by Dak, and they played the 48ers with their 4th string QB…

I think our offense is about to destroy them…if our defense can make Hurts one dimensional, look out!

Jags game was in a monsoon

Why Not? 01-31-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Verse234 (Post 16780329)
Many of his sacks are designed runs. Lane Johnson and Jayson Kelce are both All Pros and havent allowed a sack this year. The Eagles Offensive and Defensive lines are two of the best in the NFL. I love this test for the Eagles, Mahomes is great and may win the MVP but Hurts is also a finalist for the MVP. The match ups favors the Eagles in wr rb secondary and both lines. Kelce is a beast but Dallas Goddert is dangerous as well. The Chiefs have the experience but the birds have more talent. Gonna be a great game. Thanks for having me

Welcome. It should be a great game. However, as I was pointing out to the other Eagles fan here, in the NFL designed runs by the QB aren’t considered sacks. It’s pretty easy to tell when a QB is scrambling vs a called run. If you tackle the QB behind the line of scrimmage on a designed run you’ll get credit for a TFL but not for a sack.

Verse234 01-31-2023 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16780232)
The thing I see is that the eagles have not played a great offensive team this year…

They played Jax early before they were jelling, they played the cowboys once with Rush and got beat by Dak, and they played the 48ers with their 4th string QB…

I think our offense is about to destroy them…if our defense can make Hurts one-dimensional, look out!

How did the 49ers lose both of their qbs last night? oh that's right the Niners couldn't protect them against a ferocious Dline.
Yes, the Eagles lost to Dak and the Cowboys, but we did beat the Bears and Colts as well as manhandled the Texans and Titans so does that count in the equation? Both of these teams earned the right to represent our conferences. A blowout? come on man smh

wbbonneriii 01-31-2023 07:56 AM

To follow up on the lack of offensive teams the Eagles have faced this year, this was their schedule (and that team's offensive ranking). They just faced five teams in the top 15 offensively (Det, Minn, Dal x2, and 49ers with their 4th stringer)...so really three teams Det, Minn, and Dal with Dak.

Det: 12th
Minn: 9th
Wash: 24th
Jax: 18th
Cardinals: 17th
Cowboys: 6th (but Dak didn't play)
Steelers: 25th
Texans: 31st
Wash: 24th
Colts:29th
Packers: 27th
Titans: 22nd
Giants: 21st
Bears: 16th
Cowboys: 6th (lost and gave up 40)
Saints: 20th
Giants: 21st

Playoffs:
Giants: 21st
49ers: 11th (with their 4th string QB)


Now compare this to the Chiefs who faced 9 teams in the top 15 (Bills, Bengals x2, Seahawks, Raiders x2, 49ers, Chargers x2)...

The Eagles are in big trouble if Mahomes is healthy!!!

Bearcat 01-31-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Verse234 (Post 16780348)
How did the 49ers lose both of their qbs last night? oh that's right the Niners couldn't protect them against a ferocious Dline.
Yes, the Eagles lost to Dak and the Cowboys, but we did beat the Bears and Colts as well as manhandled the Texans and Titans so does that count in the equation? Both of these teams earned the right to represent our conferences. A blowout? come on man smh

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Chris Meck 01-31-2023 08:00 AM

I'm not super concerned about Hurts as a passer; we handled Burrow, Chase and Higgins. I am concerned he can hurt us with his legs. Concerned about their running game overall, in fact.

And I'm concerned about their pass rush.

So, yeah, the trenches are my worry about this match-up. That and KC's overall health/availability.

duncan_idaho 01-31-2023 08:00 AM

I know the Eagles are riding high after demolishing the 49ers. They’re a great team with a lot of talent, and I respect them a bunch…

BUT

I don’t see an offense that has tested them like the Chiefs offense is going to test them.

Is it possible the Eagles’ pass rush just overwhelms the Chiefs up front like they’ve done most teams on their schedule?

It sure is.

But it’s hard for me to see that, when the Eagles haven’t played many offenses with a good QB/system, and really have only played one elite guy (and he was out 1/2 the game, and the backup still made things happen).

I’m interested to see what the Chiefs do with Sneed, assuming he’s back for this one. Their willingness to have him travel with his WR matchup makes me think he likely does that with AJ Brown, which leaves KC marching up McDuffie on the slot.

I think that approach is going to more impactful and successful than outsiders realize.

straycash 01-31-2023 08:02 AM

PHI O vs KC D that's the game.

Verse234 01-31-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16780340)
Welcome. It should be a great game. However, as I was pointing out to the other Eagles fan here, in the NFL designed runs by the QB aren’t considered sacks. It’s pretty easy to tell when a QB is scrambling vs a called run. If you tackle the QB behind the line of scrimmage on a designed run you’ll get credit for a TFL but not for a sack.

thank you for the response. If they are running an RPO and tackled behind the line of scrimmage it would be considered a sack Im guessing. What I do know is that neither Lane Johnson nor Jayson Kelce allowed a sack in 2 years and Dickerson is a pro bowler.

Verse234 01-31-2023 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16780353)
I know the Eagles are riding high after demolishing the 49ers. They’re a great team with a lot of talent, and I respect them a bunch…

BUT

I don’t see an offense that has tested them like the Chiefs offense is going to test them.

Is it possible the Eagles’ pass rush just overwhelms the Chiefs up front like they’ve done most teams on their schedule?

It sure is.

But it’s hard for me to see that, when the Eagles haven’t played many offenses with a good QB/system, and really have only played one elite guy (and he was out 1/2 the game, and the backup still made things happen).

I’m interested to see what the Chiefs do with Sneed, assuming he’s back for this one. Their willingness to have him travel with his WR matchup makes me think he likely does that with AJ Brown, which leaves KC marching up McDuffie on the slot.

I think that approach is going to more impactful and successful than outsiders realize.

I think that the birds are going to come out running the ball. we have 3 very good running backs and a massive oline. my worry is who covers travis

FringeNC 01-31-2023 08:07 AM

The thing about the Chiefs playing an elite defense is it's a coin flip: yeah, sometimes they do slow down the Chiefs, but a lot of times the Chiefs make them look like a terrible defense. Until the last drive against the 49ers, the Chiefs were averaging 10 yards per play, which is insane. If the Chiefs offense has a signature game, the Philly defense will be shredded.

Obviously, health is going to play into this game.

It's not that I am overly confident; I'm not especially given the injuries. But if Mahomes and the boys are close to 100%, if the Chiefs bring their A game on offense, there's nothing the Eagles D can do about it.

duncan_idaho 01-31-2023 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16780349)
To follow up on the lack of offensive teams the Eagles have faced this year, this was their schedule (and that team's offensive ranking). They just faced five teams in the top 15 offensively (Det, Minn, Dal x2, and 49ers with their 4th stringer)...so really three teams Det, Minn, and Dal with Dak.

Det: 12th
Minn: 9th
Wash: 24th
Jax: 18th
Cardinals: 17th
Cowboys: 6th (but Dak didn't play)
Steelers: 25th
Texans: 31st
Wash: 24th
Colts:29th
Packers: 27th
Titans: 22nd
Giants: 21st
Bears: 16th
Cowboys: 6th (lost and gave up 40)
Saints: 20th
Giants: 21st

Playoffs:
Giants: 21st
49ers: 11th (with their 4th string QB)


Now compare this to the Chiefs who faced 9 teams in the top 15 (Bills, Bengals x2, Seahawks, Raiders x2, 49ers, Chargers x2)...

The Eagles are in big trouble if Mahomes is healthy!!!

They've literally played 3 games with a good offense/good QB combo. And only 1/2 against an elite QB.

2 1/2 of those games were against the QB trio of Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, and Jordan Love.

HC_Chief 01-31-2023 08:09 AM

IMO story of the game is KC's health. If the Chiefs come into the game fully healthy and ready to play, it'll be a great game. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a low scoring outcome, 17-14, 24-21 type of game.

Both teams can get after the QB. Both teams have an offensive capability that makes them really difficult to stop (run for Philly, pass for KC).

KC's offense is more dynamic, but the OTs can be a problem. Philly's pass rush off the edge is legit.

Philly's run game, including the triple RPO, is excellent. KC's DL is stout, esp Chris Jones, who was the best DT in the league this year & truly disruptive (better double & triple team him every snap, else he will blow up your offense).

This should be an outstanding Super Bowl :clap: LFG

dirk digler 01-31-2023 08:11 AM

How would we rank the Eagles DLine against other DLines we have faced this season?

Thinking about the ones that we faced that stood out to me are the first Chargers game, Titans, 49ers, and the Bengals...

Christian & Barry 01-31-2023 08:12 AM

Eagles opposing QBs
Goff- DET
Cousins- MIN
Wentz- WAS
Lawrence- JAX
Murray- ARI
Rush- DAL
Pickett- PIT
Mills- HOU
Heinicke- WAS
Ryan- IND
Rodgers- GB
Tannehill- TEN
Jones- NYG
Fields- CHI
Prescott (347 yds, 3 TDs)
Dalton- NO
Webb (Davis Webb)- NYG
Jones- NYG
Armless Purdy- SF

straycash 01-31-2023 08:13 AM

Pat will be wearing a force field in the game, no worries.

Verse234 01-31-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16780351)
I'm not super concerned about Hurts as a passer; we handled Burrow, Chase and Higgins. I am concerned he can hurt us with his legs. Concerned about their running game overall, in fact.

And I'm concerned about their pass rush.

So, yeah, the trenches are my worry about this match-up. That and KC's overall health/availability.

you guys had Burrow on his heels attacking a makeshift oline. The same can be said for the birds. We attacked the Niners after taking out both their qbs and they couldnt throw the ball.
I keep reading about how easy the Eagles had it, but the Chiefs played the AFC South and NFC West both terrible divisions. lost to the Colts and Bears. The strength of schedule isn't a very good barometer when discussing this game
The Chiefs are going to be one hell of a test for us I cant wait, I hope we both stay healthy and safe and let the best team win.

duncan_idaho 01-31-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Verse234 (Post 16780364)
I think that the birds are going to come out running the ball. we have 3 very good running backs and a massive oline. my worry is who covers travis

I think you're right, and I'm not terrified of that matchup.

With Brandon Williams rotating in, the Chiefs have a stout DL that does its job and also has playmakers. The Chiefs' LB are also most effective coming downhill against the run.

They have been iffy finding their run fits at times against 2x personnel groupings, but looking at personnel groupings, the Eagles have run just 17 plays from 2x, so I wouldn't expect much of that.

The Chiefs D wants to be in traditional 43 against 12 and nickel against 11. Looks like the Eagles would need to break tendencies to get the Chiefs out of the groupings they have built this defense to be in.

dirk digler 01-31-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16780384)
I think you're right, and I'm not terrified of that matchup.

With Brandon Williams rotating in, the Chiefs have a stout DL that does its job and also has playmakers. The Chiefs' LB are also most effective coming downhill against the run.

They have been iffy finding their run fits at times against 2x personnel groupings, but looking at personnel groupings, the Eagles have run just 17 plays from 2x, so I wouldn't expect much of that.

The Chiefs D wants to be in traditional 43 against 12 and nickel against 11. Looks like the Eagles would need to break tendencies to get the Chiefs out of the groupings they have built this defense to be in.

I know it was last season but the Eagles offense is the same (minus AJ) and we held them to 103 yds rushing with a much healthier Hurts and overall much weaker defense than this year.

Bearcat 01-31-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Verse234 (Post 16780364)
I think that the birds are going to come out running the ball. we have 3 very good running backs and a massive oline. my worry is who covers travis

That would be a terrible strategy (assuming the Chiefs are fairly healthy after a completely banged up offense that just threw for 325 yards and 2 TDs) and has been debunked time and time again. The 49ers in the SB a few years ago tried it and had success for ~3 quarters, but found out a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter wasn't enough. The Jags a couple weeks ago tried to shorten the game after Mahomes got hurt, just to shut themselves out in the 3rd quarter, before getting back in the game by airing it out a bit.

Come out running and they risk being down 14-3 after the first quarter, or at best "shortening the game" when the Eagles actually need to keep scoring and targeting 30+ points.

Bearcat 01-31-2023 08:28 AM

And for the love of god can we stop talking about regular season results. LMAO Go look at 2020 Bills or 2020 Browns for a couple of examples of how ****ing pointless it is to talk about a bunch of non-playoff teams in non-playoff games. :facepalm:

RaidersOftheCellar 01-31-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Christian & Barry (Post 16780375)
Eagles opposing QBs
Goff- DET
Cousins- MIN
Wentz- WAS
Lawrence- JAX
Murray- ARI
Rush- DAL
Pickett- PIT
Mills- HOU
Heinicke- WAS
Ryan- IND
Rodgers- GB
Tannehill- TEN
Jones- NYG
Fields- CHI
Prescott (347 yds, 3 TDs)
Dalton- NO
Webb (Davis Webb)- NYG
Jones- NYG
Armless Purdy- SF

If the Chiefs had played that schedule, everybody would be talking about how dominant KC’s defense is.

duncan_idaho 01-31-2023 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Verse234 (Post 16780381)
you guys had Burrow on his heels attacking a makeshift oline. The same can be said for the birds. We attacked the Niners after taking out both their qbs and they couldnt throw the ball.
I keep reading about how easy the Eagles had it, but the Chiefs played the AFC South and NFC West both terrible divisions. lost to the Colts and Bears. The strength of schedule isn't a very good barometer when discussing this game
The Chiefs are going to be one hell of a test for us I cant wait, I hope we both stay healthy and safe and let the best team win.

The Chiefs did not play or lose to the Bears. Colts, Bills, Bengals.

The Chiefs' schedule strength is damaged by how bad the teams at the bottom were (they had 9 games against teams in the bottom 7 of the NFL standings). It was all-or-nothing. Either a terrible squad or a playoff team/contender.

Bengals x2
Bills
Chargers x2
Jaguars x2
49ers
Tampa
Tennessee
Seattle

Chiefs are 9-2 against that lineup, with two losses by a total of 7 points, and an average margin of victory of a TD.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-31-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16780393)
I know it was last season but the Eagles offense is the same (minus AJ) and we held them to 103 yds rushing with a much healthier Hurts and overall much weaker defense than this year.

Yeah…last year’s D ended up improving dramatically, but at that point in the year they were historically bad.

HC_Chief 01-31-2023 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16780428)
Yeah…last year’s D ended up improving dramatically, but at that point in the year they were historically bad.

We also had glaring weaknesses, from a personnel perspective. Hitchens, Niemann, and especially Sorenson were just awful. Teams could literally gameplan for each to guarantee a matchup in their favor.

Mecca 01-31-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16780396)
That would be a terrible strategy (assuming the Chiefs are fairly healthy after a completely banged up offense that just threw for 325 yards and 2 TDs) and has been debunked time and time again. The 49ers in the SB a few years ago tried it and had success for ~3 quarters, but found out a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter wasn't enough. The Jags a couple weeks ago tried to shorten the game after Mahomes got hurt, just to shut themselves out in the 3rd quarter, before getting back in the game by airing it out a bit.

Come out running and they risk being down 14-3 after the first quarter, or at best "shortening the game" when the Eagles actually need to keep scoring and targeting 30+ points.

That's how they play, I don't think Hurts would be remotely as good without the run game threat. They're gonna run it a bunch, it's what they've done all year.

Direckshun 01-31-2023 08:52 AM

The Eagles DL is going to be the key to the game. How do the Chiefs navigate it.

I assume the Chiefs are going to plaster their WRs, and their WRs do not have the elite ball skills that the Bengals WRs do. But Hurts can do damage on the ground, and the Chiefs will struggle to contain the multitudes he brings every snap. I envision at least a couple 12-snap drives that end with points.

The Eagles defense is not built for Mahomes, though. Mahomes, Reid and Bienemy will scheme the hell out of that static zone and pick it apart... unless the Eagles passrush breaks the offense. But Reid always has good gameplans against fantastic passrushes.

Can the OL, and the gameplanning by Reid/Bienemy, and creativity/toughness by Mahomes, hold up against the Eagles front line?

If so, the Eagles do not have enough to stop the Chiefs.

My feel is that this is a 60/40 game in favor of the Chiefs. The Eagles offense is going to be a lot tougher than we give it credit for, because all five of their OL are very good and Hurts is a fantastic athlete. Spags can take away a couple things Hurts likes to do, and we'll see if Hurts has more tools in his toolbelt. He's a young player, though. Mahomes, Reid, and Bienemy are built for breaking this Eagles defense so long as the DL doesn't go nuclear.


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