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Gadzooks 03-26-2023 11:17 PM

Gotta' admit, it's a bit of dick move to talk shit against your former team. I don't recall the Chargers treating him poorly.

He did cry a lot in the locker room though... for no apparent reason.

POND_OF_RED 03-26-2023 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 16877185)
Gotta' admit, it's a bit of dick move to talk shit against your former team. I don't recall the Chargers treating him poorly.

He did cry a lot in the locker room though... for no apparent reason.

Losing gets old. It’s always fun to get picked up by the winning side. What did he say that was shitting on his old team? Sounds like he was just saying it will be nice to be on a winning team. Who wouldn’t want a chance at playoff football? It’s what most of these players live for.

Gadzooks 03-27-2023 12:00 AM

To openly state a preference towards your new team to your former is typically deemed in poor taste, petty, low class, etc...
Pretty simple.

Gadzooks 03-27-2023 12:08 AM

For example, POND_OF_RED gets traded from the Houston Texans to the Buffalo Bills...
POND_OF_RED: "I'm excited to be joining the organization, can't wait to be part of the team and get started!
To all the fans in Houston, thanks for your support. I'll miss the city and the fans.

Thanks"

New World Order 03-27-2023 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 16877195)
To openly state a preference towards your new team to your former is typically deemed in poor taste, petty, low class, etc...
Pretty simple.

Nothing wrong with being honest

POND_OF_RED 03-27-2023 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 16877196)
For example, POND_OF_RED gets traded from the Houston Texans to the Buffalo Bills...
POND_OF_RED: "I'm excited to be joining the organization, can't wait to be part of the team and get started!
To all the fans in Houston, thanks for your support. I'll miss the city and the fans.

Thanks"

Do all of your examples only include teams without winning pedigrees? I think it’s a little different when you get traded from a team with no Super Bowls to a team with 2 in the last 5 years. It’s like getting released from prison. Sure, it may not be polite to talk shit about the prison guards when you get out, but if you have no intentions of returning to that shit-hole of a place ever again what does it really matter what you say about them?

ThyKingdomCome15 03-27-2023 12:23 AM

I forgive him for dumping on the Chargers porch before jumping the plane to Arrowhead. In fact, I think it's funny.

If I remember correctly this guy turned down offers from several other teams to come and play in KC. That's what I'm talking about!

And I just have to throw one more thing out there...

He wore Dirty Dan's number as a member of the LAC. Lol! I hope he wears it here.

Gadzooks 03-27-2023 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 16877198)
Do all of your examples only include teams without winning pedigrees? I think it’s a little different when you get traded from a team with no Super Bowls to a team with 2 in the last 5 years. It’s like getting released from prison. Sure, it may not be polite to talk shit about the prison guards when you get out, but if you have no intentions of returning to that shit-hole of a place ever again what does it really matter what you say about them?

Tranquill's in no position to burn bridges since he's on a 1 year deal.

It's funny. You guys no longer seem to recognize "the shoe the other foot" in such a short time period of success.

Yet, you would've had a different opinion during the Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Matt Cassel, Alex Smith eras when a player left the Chiefs and talked shit about them in favor of a Divisional rival.

I understand you're happy to get a LB on the cheap, (one the Chargers replaced with a better player), but, bottom line, it's low class, unnecessary commentary on his behalf.

InChiefsHeaven 03-27-2023 05:37 AM

I don't get it. He didn't shit on the Chargers. He said "I've been on the wrong side of Arrowhead, looking forward to being on the right side" or words to that effect. That's not crapping on the Chargers, that's praise for his new team's fanbase.

I mean, whatever. I don't hear anything in that video that says "man, I hate the Chargers" at all.

But...I'm a fan of the quite recent Super Bowl LVII champion Kansas City Chiefs, also the same team that Mr. Tranquill just signed with, so what do I know?

POND_OF_RED 03-27-2023 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 16877204)
It's funny. You guys no longer seem to recognize "the shoe the other foot" in such a short time period of success.

Short time period of success? We have literally played in as many AFC Championship games in the last 4 years as your franchise has played in since the merger 50+ years ago. We absolutely don’t recognize “the shoe on the other foot” because we grew out of those baby shoes within 5 years of the merger. We’ll never recognize what it’s like to be perennial losers like the Chargers because it’s been over half a century since the two franchises were separated by success.

AussieChiefsFan 03-27-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 16877236)
Short time period of success? We have literally played in as many AFC Championship games in the last 4 years as your franchise has played in since the merger 50+ years ago. We absolutely don’t recognize “the shoe on the other foot” because we grew out of those baby shoes within 5 years of the merger. We’ll never recognize what it’s like to be perennial losers like the Chargers because it’s been over half a century since the two franchises were separated by success.

LMAO

tredadda 03-27-2023 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 16877204)
Tranquill's in no position to burn bridges since he's on a 1 year deal.

It's funny. You guys no longer seem to recognize "the shoe the other foot" in such a short time period of success.

Yet, you would've had a different opinion during the Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Matt Cassel, Alex Smith eras when a player left the Chiefs and talked shit about them in favor of a Divisional rival.

I understand you're happy to get a LB on the cheap, (one the Chargers replaced with a better player), but, bottom line, it's low class, unnecessary commentary on his behalf.

The irony of burning bridges considering the Chargers exit from SD to LA where they have so few fans that the visiting team considers playing there as another home game. The Chargers are the team no one wants.

Kramerica 03-27-2023 08:29 AM

Of course he is going to praise his new team, stadium, fanbase, etc. He didn't say anything about the chargers. It's not trashing your former team to point out you got beat in Arrowhead a few times and look forward to being able to play and win in that environment as a member of the home team. What is he supposed to say - "It's ok but really it's no different than playing in sofi"? Where you have as many fans from the away team.

The Franchise 03-27-2023 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16877216)
I don't get it. He didn't shit on the Chargers. He said "I've been on the wrong side of Arrowhead, looking forward to being on the right side" or words to that effect. That's not crapping on the Chargers, that's praise for his new team's fanbase.

I mean, whatever. I don't hear anything in that video that says "man, I hate the Chargers" at all.

But...I'm a fan of the quite recent Super Bowl LVII champion Kansas City Chiefs, also the same team that Mr. Tranquill just signed with, so what do I know?

This. He wasn’t saying **** the Chargers or anything like it.

BryanBusby 03-27-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 16877204)
Tranquill's in no position to burn bridges since he's on a 1 year deal.

It's funny. You guys no longer seem to recognize "the shoe the other foot" in such a short time period of success.

Yet, you would've had a different opinion during the Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Matt Cassel, Alex Smith eras when a player left the Chiefs and talked shit about them in favor of a Divisional rival.

I understand you're happy to get a LB on the cheap, (one the Chargers replaced with a better player), but, bottom line, it's low class, unnecessary commentary on his behalf.

I heard he directly defacated on the Chargers logo on the way out and said suck my ass, pizza face.

Dave Lane 03-27-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16861421)
He can do everything. He's an absolute stud.

The base set having two coverage studs in Tranq and Gay gives us a huge advantage now.

Why not a two or three year deal if he’s that good? Would hate to see him do great and lose him.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-27-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 16877344)
Why not a two or three year deal if he’s that good? Would hate to see him do great and lose him.

He decided to take a 1 year deal, and Veach probably thought that's fine, we will see who we keep between Bolten (ext.), Gay and Tanquill at the end of next year since there is only so much money to go around. You give Tranquill a true 2-3 year deal, your hands are tied.

DJ's left nut 03-27-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 16877344)
Why not a two or three year deal if he’s that good? Would hate to see him do great and lose him.

Because he wasn't looking for one. At least not at those figures.

But what's strange is that he was coming off what is very probably the best season he'll have in his career. As far as platform seasons go, you just couldn't ask for more.

But the market was tight this year and more money is coming into the system next season. So I'm guessing the market didn't come together for him so he took a pillow contract to try to get back on the market next year.

RealSNR 03-27-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 16877185)
Gotta' admit, it's a bit of dick move to talk shit against your former team. I don't recall the Chargers treating him poorly.

He did cry a lot in the locker room though... for no apparent reason.

Is he talking shit? He's talking about using the other tunnel at Gayha Arrowhead Stadium instead of the visitor tunnel.

RunKC 03-27-2023 10:43 AM

You could probably choose between him and Gay at the end of the season and give them a deal similar to Germaine Pratt.

$7 million AAV is very fair IMO

RealSNR 10-01-2023 10:21 PM

He, uhhh... he kind of sucks.

Well, he doesn't suck, but there were posters who were talking about saving some cash down the line by just keeping guys like him around instead of paying Bolton.

I'm gonna say nah to that one. A couple awful whiffed tackles out there tonight that I think Bolton would have wrapped up.

BWillie 10-01-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17142649)
He, uhhh... he kind of sucks.

Well, he doesn't suck, but there were posters who were talking about saving some cash down the line by just keeping guys like him around instead of paying Bolton.

I'm gonna say nah to that one. A couple awful whiffed tackles out there tonight that I think Bolton would have wrapped up.

This is a bad post and you should feel bad.

Chiefshrink 10-01-2023 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17142654)
This is a bad post and you should feel bad.

:clap:

He wasn't brought in to start but he did what he had to do as a backup. He is a very instinctual player and I assure you he will make some real key picks and tackles this year that will seal games for us. I love this guy because he is an intellectual instinctual player.

RealSNR 10-01-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17142654)
This is a bad post and you should feel bad.

I said he doesn't suck.

You do, but he doesn't.

BWillie 10-01-2023 10:28 PM

Hes cheap. Effective. Allows us to spend money elsewhere. Great signing but ya Id pay Bolton...but I would pay him at the expense of some other guys like Creed and Sneed.

Fish 10-01-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17142649)
He, uhhh... he kind of sucks.

Well, he doesn't suck, but there were posters who were talking about saving some cash down the line by just keeping guys like him around instead of paying Bolton.

I'm gonna say nah to that one. A couple awful whiffed tackles out there tonight that I think Bolton would have wrapped up.

Well, I heard he hasn't really been impressed with your 2023 performance either.

Chiefshrink 10-01-2023 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17142683)
Hes cheap. Effective. Allows us to spend money elsewhere. Great signing but ya Id pay Bolton...but I would pay him at the expense of some other guys like Creed and Sneed.

You would sacrifice a future HOF center ???????

Simply Red 10-01-2023 11:23 PM

I liked it when Leo Chanel no.5 was playing corner, that always seems smart.

Rasputin 10-01-2023 11:43 PM

Drou Tranquilizer

ThyKingdomCome15 10-01-2023 11:50 PM

Drew and Chenal tore it up tonight. We have the best LB'ers in the league.

Red Dawg 10-02-2023 05:54 AM

We ran the ball for big yardage on the Jets DL. Nobody else has done that in two years.

cookster50 10-02-2023 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17142913)
We ran the ball for big yardage on the Jets DL. Nobody else has done that in two years.

Very good point to bring up in a thread... Let me double check.. yup, a thread talking about a LB. Very pertinent and on topic!

cmh6476 10-02-2023 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cookster50 (Post 17142946)
Very good point to bring up in a thread... Let me double check.. yup, a thread talking about a LB. Very pertinent and on topic!

Tranquillit kept motivating our OL and RBs all night and made the difference

duncan_idaho 10-02-2023 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16877528)
You could probably choose between him and Gay at the end of the season and give them a deal similar to Germaine Pratt.

$7 million AAV is very fair IMO

I think this is the play.

Though, honestly, with the way Chenal has come along this season, they could look to just find a cheap option at SAM or WLB in FA and draft another 3-4th LB again and probably be just fine.

RE: Nick Bolton, I absolutely love him and have for a long time. But I wouldn't break the bank for him and certainly wouldn't pay him over Sneed or Jones.

O.city 10-02-2023 07:37 AM

Yeah, Sneed is.....man he's just really good at a valuable position.

DJ's left nut 10-02-2023 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17142649)
He, uhhh... he kind of sucks.

Well, he doesn't suck, but there were posters who were talking about saving some cash down the line by just keeping guys like him around instead of paying Bolton.

I'm gonna say nah to that one. A couple awful whiffed tackles out there tonight that I think Bolton would have wrapped up.

And he got pinned on the long Hall run that Cook saved.

He's a quality player but he's no Nick Bolton.

RealSNR 10-02-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17143001)
I think this is the play.

Though, honestly, with the way Chenal has come along this season, they could look to just find a cheap option at SAM or WLB in FA and draft another 3-4th LB again and probably be just fine.

RE: Nick Bolton, I absolutely love him and have for a long time. But I wouldn't break the bank for him and certainly wouldn't pay him over Sneed or Jones.

I'd absolutely pay Bolton over Sneed.

ChiefaRoo 10-02-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17143029)
And he got pinned on the long Hall run that Cook saved.

He's a quality player but he's no Nick Bolton.

Yep, Bolton is the best tackler on the team.

tredadda 10-02-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 17143290)
Yep, Bolton is the best tackler on the team.

That is why I pay Bolton. He is just that guy on defense that has a nose for the ball and rarely seems to miss tackles.

Lzen 10-02-2023 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17143029)
And he got pinned on the long Hall run that Cook saved.

He's a quality player but he's no Nick Bolton.

I have been saying that the Tranquil signing was one of the most underrated of the offseason. Still, I think he got worked a few times against the Jets. I was a little disappointed. I think he will be fine but yeah, he's no Bolton.

wachashi 10-02-2023 02:18 PM

Bolton is good for at least one or two splash plays a game. It's usually a tackle for loss in which he sniffs out the play early. Tranquill is solid, but there's clearly a drop-off between him and Bolton, at least at MLB and especially on run plays.

DJ's left nut 10-02-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17144013)
I have been saying that the Tranquil signing was one of the most underrated of the offseason. Still, I think he got worked a few times against the Jets. I was a little disappointed. I think he will be fine but yeah, he's no Bolton.

I LOVED the Tranquill signing. Just a letter perfect addition.

But what Tranquill is showing is that despite being a very good player, he's not Bolton.

He's showing as much as anything that Bolton isn't really just some replaceable 2-down 'backer. The guy's just a really really good football player. And yes, Tranquill is a good player as well but Bolton's clearly better.

I agree with the idea that it's really Tranquill or Gay, not Tranquill or Bolton.

R Clark 10-02-2023 03:33 PM

Isn’t tranquill more of a coverage LB or at least that’s what I thought they brought him in for?

RunKC 10-22-2023 08:28 PM

He's the best LB on this football team. He's an excellent blitzer, solid run defender and by far our best LB in pass defense. Huge upgrade over Darius Harris.

I hope we can extend him. He's so good

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tranquil was balling out today too. He&#39;s our best coverage backer <a href="https://t.co/9nkP4hyEzH">pic.twitter.com/9nkP4hyEzH</a></p>&mdash; RunKC (@JT4630) <a href="https://twitter.com/JT4630/status/1716279438906642481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 10-22-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17184593)
He's the best LB on this football team. He's an excellent blitzer, solid run defender and by far our best LB in pass defense. Huge upgrade over Darius Harris.

I hope we can extend him. He's so good

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tranquil was balling out today too. He&#39;s our best coverage backer <a href="https://t.co/9nkP4hyEzH">pic.twitter.com/9nkP4hyEzH</a></p>&mdash; RunKC (@JT4630) <a href="https://twitter.com/JT4630/status/1716279438906642481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol

Dude, he's not better than Bolton or Gay. You're blowing this guy reeeeeeeeally hard.

He's a great player. And we're not paying much for him. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

TwistedChief 10-22-2023 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17184611)
Lol

Dude, he's not better than Bolton or Gay. You're blowing this guy reeeeeeeeally hard.

He's a great player. And we're not paying much for him. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

He’s definitely a more complete and disciplined LBer than Gay.

Dunerdr 10-22-2023 09:10 PM

Apparently that thing he wears is called a Qcollar and is supposed to put slight pressure on the jugular’s to keep extra blood in the brain for more protection against hard hits.

RealSNR 10-22-2023 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17184721)
He’s definitely a more complete and disciplined LBer than Gay.

Disciplined? Being out of position just enough to miss key tackles on YAC plays? Is that considered discipline?

Or are you talking about vacuum cleaner care? Because if so, then yeah, I agree that Tranquil is a more disciplined LB than Gay.

penchief 10-23-2023 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17184721)
He’s definitely a more complete and disciplined LBer than Gay.

Gay is a badass. He played a great game yesterday. He seems to be coming into his own.

Wisconsin_Chief 10-23-2023 09:38 AM

His signing looks even more brilliant with all the injuries Bolton has been dealing with.

This defense looks just as good with Tranquill in there as it does with Bolton. I'm not saying he's as good of a player, but he fits his role very nicely and is always in the right spot, and really flies around out there.

St. Patty's Fire 10-23-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 17184914)
Gay is a badass. He played a great game yesterday. He seems to be coming into his own.

he just has that proverbial dog in him

Jewish Rabbi 10-23-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17184733)
Apparently that thing he wears is called a Qcollar and is supposed to put slight pressure on the jugular’s to keep extra blood in the brain for more protection against hard hits.

There’s extra blood in my penis when I watch him make a tackle for the KC Chiefs

JPH83 10-23-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17184721)
He’s definitely a more complete and disciplined LBer than Gay.

Yep. Bolton - no, Gay - yes. Not the same athlete, but definitely better in coverage.

AdolfOliverBush 10-23-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17185341)
There’s extra blood in my penis when I watch him make a tackle for the KC Chiefs

Forget the Qcollar, get yourself a C ring.

RunKC 11-10-2023 11:37 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There&#39;s 41 LBs in the NFL who have taken 200 coverage snaps this season. Drue Tranquil has allowed the 9th fewest reception yards out of them. He has allowed 213 reception yards this season. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Hive (@chiefshive) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefshive/status/1722668259764298034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drue Tranquill in 217 coverage snaps has not allowed a reception TD. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Hive (@chiefshive) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefshive/status/1722667652739375128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">32 targets</p>&mdash; Chiefs Hive (@chiefshive) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefshive/status/1722667919841124401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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O.city 11-10-2023 11:39 AM

He's a good player.

I think we've seen though when Gay is playing well the upside for him is just as high as any offball LB'er in the league.

I'd prefer Gay and Bolton to stay together but that probably just won't happen so I'd keep Drue and slide him into the Gay role.

Dante84 11-10-2023 11:42 AM

I wish we could keep everyone for the next 2-3 years and just go on an insane run, but alas...

RunKC 11-10-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17217646)
I wish we could keep everyone for the next 2-3 years and just go on an insane run, but alas...

Trade Chris, bring back Tranquil and Edwards for 2 years, pay a decent price for proven vet WR and pay Sneed. Then have extra draft picks.

Profit

DJ's left nut 11-10-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17217646)
I wish we could keep everyone for the next 2-3 years and just go on an insane run, but alas...

I'm already excited about us spending money on a WR this off-season, letting Snead/Tranquill and/or Edwards walk and then hearing all the griping about how we let the defense get worse...

We'll probably by 5-1 or so when the complaining really gears up.

The Franchise 11-10-2023 11:54 AM

This is easily, IMO, Veach's best FA signing this offseason.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17217665)
This is easily, IMO, Veach's best FA signing this offseason.

Book has yet to be written.

I think looking back it could still be Omenihu. He could be a REAL problem for teams as the season progresses. That interior rush is insane and we just saw what Spags can do with a fully armed and operational battle station.

The edge to edge versatility on the DL is really unique and Omenihu is a big part of it.

dlphg9 11-10-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17217662)
I'm already excited about us spending money on a WR this off-season, letting Snead/Tranquill and/or Edwards walk and then hearing all the griping about how we let the defense get worse...

We'll probably by 5-1 or so when the complaining really gears up.

I think keeping Sneed on the team is pretty important. I know how good Veach is at drafting CBs, but only 1 has been better than Sneed and I'd like to keep Sneed and McD together for a long time. I think those 2 are a huge reason for the D being so good.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17217675)
I think keeping Sneed on the team is pretty important. I know how good Veach is at drafting CBs, but only 1 has been better than Sneed and I'd like to keep Sneed and McD together for a long time. I think those 2 are a huge reason for the D being so good.

Only issue with Sneed I really have is that he's older than you realize. A 3 year extension is 27, 28 and 29 and a lot of corners fall off pretty hard at 28/29 yrs old.

I don't mind approaching him but if he's looking at/near the top of the market, I think I'd have to just wish him well and move along.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 11-10-2023 12:07 PM

Sneed is good for a solid 2-3 penalties a game but it’s worth it since he’s as lockdown as you can get

DJ's left nut 11-10-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17217683)
Sneed is good for a solid 2-3 penalties a game but it’s worth it since he’s as lockdown as you can get

Sneed has played 50 career NFL games.

He's been penalized 28 times.

I think your math needs a little work.

xztop123 11-10-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17217657)
Trade Chris, bring back Tranquil and Edwards for 2 years, pay a decent price for proven vet WR and pay Sneed. Then have extra draft picks.

Profit

This.

O.city 11-10-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17217662)
I'm already excited about us spending money on a WR this off-season, letting Snead/Tranquill and/or Edwards walk and then hearing all the griping about how we let the defense get worse...

We'll probably by 5-1 or so when the complaining really gears up.

If I could keep those 3 for letting Jones walk, I would.

Sneed has made it this far, he's gonna wanna hit the market and we need the tag and trade for Jones to recoup some picks.

So I don't see it being in the cards.

O.city 11-10-2023 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17217671)
Book has yet to be written.

I think looking back it could still be Omenihu. He could be a REAL problem for teams as the season progresses. That interior rush is insane and we just saw what Spags can do with a fully armed and operational battle station.

The edge to edge versatility on the DL is really unique and Omenihu is a big part of it.

Really need FAU to come on strong down the stretch here.

If you could get him out there with Omenihu, JOnes and Karlaftis, that would be nice.

Dante84 11-10-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17217662)
I'm already excited about us spending money on a WR this off-season, letting Snead/Tranquill and/or Edwards walk and then hearing all the griping about how we let the defense get worse...

We'll probably by 5-1 or so when the complaining really gears up.

lol...


Personally, I'm fine with letting Snead go. It's Charvarious Ward all over again. I love what he brings, but factoring in the number of concussions, the amount of penalties, and our ability to draft and develop the CB position, and I'm totally fine letting someone else pay him.

Tranquil I'd like to keep, but he may be pricing himself out.

Edwards has been a fun development this year as he has a knack for finding the ball. Not sure what he'll cost to retain.

el borracho 11-10-2023 12:33 PM

Haha. Veach is probably going to ship them both off for picks which will initially be received with many tears and much gnashing of teeth only to end up again at the top of the AFCW and in the hunt for the Super Bowl.

crispystl 11-10-2023 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17217699)
If I could keep those 3 for letting Jones walk, I would.



So I don't see it being in the cards.

Yeah I think I agree. If we could I'd do the same.

KCJake 11-10-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17217703)
lol...


Personally, I'm fine with letting Snead go. It's Charvarious Ward all over again. I love what he brings, but factoring in the number of concussions, the amount of penalties, and our ability to draft and develop the CB position, and I'm totally fine letting someone else pay him.

Tranquil I'd like to keep, but he may be pricing himself out.

Edwards has been a fun development this year as he has a knack for finding the ball. Not sure what he'll cost to retain.

Your thought process is right but for what it's worth, Sneed is much better than Ward was.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17217700)
Really need FAU to come on strong down the stretch here.

If you could get him out there with Omenihu, JOnes and Karlaftis, that would be nice.

The odds of FAU being as good/better than Danna this year are pretty much zero.

Long-term? Sure - a distinct possibility. But FAU is a rotational player for us; a luxury if he develops this season.

More of a likely necessity NEXT season.

dannybcaitlyn 11-10-2023 12:58 PM

Jason Pierre-Paul is available guys. Seems willing to sign on a practice squad. Extra depth and the biggest thing is that he played for the Ravens last year. We win Super Bowls when we pickup a former Raven player mid season.

Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17217703)
lol...


Personally, I'm fine with letting Snead go. It's Charvarious Ward all over again. I love what he brings, but factoring in the number of concussions, the amount of penalties, and our ability to draft and develop the CB position, and I'm totally fine letting someone else pay him.

Tranquil I'd like to keep, but he may be pricing himself out.

Edwards has been a fun development this year as he has a knack for finding the ball. Not sure what he'll cost to retain.

I might have agreed in the past, but dude just shut Reek DOWN. He's about as close as one is going to find to being a physical mismatch for Hill. It was as surreal as it was impressive.

Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17217728)
The odds of FAU being as good/better than Danna this year are pretty much zero.

Long-term? Sure - a distinct possibility. But FAU is a rotational player for us; a luxury if he develops this season.

More of a likely necessity NEXT season.

And that says more about Dana than anything. Guy is good, good and is making the most of his opportunities and training.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17217742)
I might have agreed in the past, but dude just shut Reek DOWN. He's about as close as one is going to find to being a physical mismatch for Hill. It was as surreal as it was impressive.

Even when Hill found some space, it was a dogfight.

I'm betting that game was the least fun Tyreek Hill has ever had on a football field. Even apart from the game-altering fumble, that guy was getting mauled out there.

It didn't look like a good time at all.

Buehler445 11-10-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17217679)
Only issue with Sneed I really have is that he's older than you realize. A 3 year extension is 27, 28 and 29 and a lot of corners fall off pretty hard at 28/29 yrs old.

I don't mind approaching him but if he's looking at/near the top of the market, I think I'd have to just wish him well and move along.

I think we're at that place with every player not named Mahomes.

Dunerdr 11-10-2023 01:17 PM

I think we end up letting Jones walk. They cant Tie up his money for a tag and trade and re-sign all these guys. I think they will view Omenihu as his replacement on pass rush downs.

RunKC 11-10-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17217686)
Sneed has played 50 career NFL games.

He's been penalized 28 times.

I think your math needs a little work.

I think these corners are now taught to not give a shit about th e penalty bc holding is 5 yards. As long as you avoid PI you're good. Plus they can't call holding on you every play.

I love that Spags does that. And while Sneed hasn't done anything numbers wise warranting all-pro status, he's locked down and beaten up Justin Jefferson and Tyreek Hill.

Man. I know Spags and his staff have an eye for corners but ideally I'd really like to not lose Sneed and Chris in the same offseason. I'd offer Sneed somewhere around $17-18 million APY. I think that's doable.


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