Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17356932)

The Super Bowl is gonna be NE/LAR in 2018 for the Chiefs or Ravens. Both defenses wil kill Purdy or Goff

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17357102)

Yeah - it's pretty apparent that the 49ers need 200% the offensive firepower of their opponent to excel.

If it's even 150% with Aiyuk, CMC and Kittle vs. the Packers, Purdy is going to struggle like mad.

It's crazy to me that people actually hold this guy out as an MVP candidate when we've seen time after time after time that if he doesn't have EVERYONE healthy, he's a trainwreck.

Deebo went down and the offense just fell apart. Because Purdy is a joke.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17357085)

Why's the media acting like the Ravens have the clear-cut best defense in the league?

They've been consistently allowing around 400 yds vs any decent offense they've played recently. Browns and Rams both dropped 30+ on them within the last several weeks.

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17357136)

Does anyone out there honestly trust Lamar Jackson in this spot? Do we honestly think he is going to stay as disciplined and make as many plays as Josh Allen made last night? Stop the run and make Lamar make decision after decision after decision in the passing game. A strip sack and a couple interceptions are in store mark my words.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17357153)

We need to not have Dickerson active

He’s not good. We’re gonna have to stop the run, may be time go with Buggs and Ferrell

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17357153)

We need to not have Dickerson active

He’s not good. We’re gonna have to stop the run, may be time go with Buggs and Ferrell

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17357154)

Lamar doesn't have the consistent accuracy Josh does to make 26 precision completions, especially under pressure.

I think the Ravens will take the cheese and lean into their running game think we're soft.

You have to throw to beat the Chiefs. It has almost always been that way.

Even when we lost to the Titans in '19, it was Tannehill making plays at the end that won it.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17357154)

Lamar doesn't have the consistent accuracy Josh does to make 26 precision completions, especially under pressure.

I think the Ravens will take the cheese and lean into their running game think we're soft.

You have to throw to beat the Chiefs. It has almost always been that way.

Even when we lost to the Titans in '19, it was Tannehill making plays at the end that won it.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17357168)

Disagree. With our elite secondary and very good pass rush, leaning into the run makes sense. It was clearly the Bills game plan to do that and hit screens, and it was working. Every time they tried to chuck it deep it was a lost down, but give 3-4 downs with the run/screens and the Chiefs were struggling.

Glad they started trying to throw at the end. My nightmare was they would just keep getting first downs quick and score a TD without any time on the clock. Passing is what killed them.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17357153)

We need to not have Dickerson active

He’s not good. We’re gonna have to stop the run, may be time go with Buggs and Ferrell

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17357168)

Disagree. With our elite secondary and very good pass rush, leaning into the run makes sense.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17357148)

They're an AFC team that didn't have to play Mahomes or Allen in the regular season. They only played Burrow once and it was in the beginning of the season (when he was playing like dogshit and he still had a good game).

Other than that, they've played 2 of the best offenses in the NFC (who moved the ball well), and a broken Dolphins team.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17357172)

Cooks last several runs weren't gaining shit. It's hard to do it all game against our defense.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17357153)

We need to not have Dickerson active

He’s not good. We’re gonna have to stop the run, may be time go with Buggs and Ferrell

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17357174)

Dude.

Look at the entire history of the Mahomes era.

When do we get beat by teams piling up rushing yards?

If the Ravens think they can go run-first and beat us, good luck. It never works.

They'll win TOP but not the game.

Spags dared the Bills to run and dink and dunk and they took the cheese.

The lack of big plays bit them in the ass in the end.

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 17357212)

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 17357212)

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17357218)

Thank God not Blakeman.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17357174)

Dude.

Look at the entire history of the Mahomes era.

When do we get beat by teams piling up rushing yards?

If the Ravens think they can go run-first and beat us, good luck. It never works.

They'll win TOP but not the game.

Spags dared the Bills to run and dink and dunk and they took the cheese.

The lack of big plays bit them in the ass in the end.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17357226)

Yep.

Run all day, just don't let Lamar loose on obvious passing downs to pick up firsts.... that's really all that hurt last night.

We ALWAYS get super worried about the run game, but I'm sure Spags and every defensive coordinator out there will let teams run to a large extent to keep the passing game in check.

It's just the opposite of the outdated "establish the run"... there's no such thing, no decent coordinator will suddenly stop defending against the pass. See: Bills hero ball last night after all their rushing and short yardage stuff... didn't fool the Chiefs once.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17357240)

I know it doesn’t actually matter, but is anyone else a little relived we dropped that last game to the Ravens?

I’d hate to give them extra motivation to finally get over the hump vs the Chiefs. Also, don’t want our guys assuming we’ll beat them just because.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17357218)

Thank God not Blakeman.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17354823)

Time to put an end to Lamar

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17357240)

I know it doesn’t actually matter, but is anyone else a little relived we dropped that last game to the Ravens?

I’d hate to give them extra motivation to finally get over the hump vs the Chiefs. Also, don’t want our guys assuming we’ll beat them just because.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17357223)

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17357271)

How does this Ravens D compare to those?

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17357173)

I would say they learned their lesson last night, but that shoulda been done weeks ago

If they don’t bring reinforcements in along that interior, Ravens will attack early and throughout

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 17357212)

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17357277)

The Ravens DVOA is the highest one ever recorded at this stage of a season so they're pretty good.

Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17356620)

divisional game...

You were beaten by the Raiders last I checked.

You have a 2-4 record against playoff teams heading into yesterdays game.

Ravens set a record for beating teams that ended with 10 wins.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17355010)

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17357316)

The qb's they've faced have hardly been a murderers row.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17357277)

The Ravens DVOA is the highest one ever recorded at this stage of a season so they're pretty good.

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 17357318)

Yep Ravens are good no one’s denying that. You are the one on a Chiefs message board trying to talk with the fan base about your team, good luck sorting all that out.

Chiefs are good too and it will be a good matchup. I think that’s why we are playing for the AFC this weekend.

All talk about games before this one are meaningless. Even your record of beating teams with 10 wins with the way the afc was this year honestly that’s not shocking at all.

See all the great teams that lost in PO before including your ravens in what was that 2019 ?Whenever you had the 1 seed and choked that away.

Good luck on Sunday.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17356769)

But stopping Lamar more difficult than stopping Allen in the run game...

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17356065)

Agreed, very happy to see them make the Final Four of the whole league. It seemed like they would have a very tough time going anywhere in the Playoffs after that Christmas Day game where the offense gained negative yardage in the first quarter and gave 2 turnover touchdowns to the Raiders. It has been a remarkable improvement from that low point in a very short period of time.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17357331)

If we can get up on the Ravens and force them to be one dimensional the game is over

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17357338)

I completely disagree with that Lamar is more difficult than Allen take, Lamar isn't in Allen's world as a passer, that throw to Shakir is something that Lamar couldn't dream of making.

Lamar also isn't going to truck defenders or get physical, he's going to be shifty and avoid hits. If you make Lamar uncomfortable his mechanics go to shit and that weird side arm motion he does starts sailing balls all over the place.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17357341)

Lamar has improved so much as a passer, I actually think he’s a better passer than Josh Allen

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17357321)

Yea but of course they're gonna throw the stats of every team they played at home had a winning record, 7 made the playoffs..

They're also the first defense in history to lead the league in sacks, PPG and Turnovers.

They're good, I think they're propped up a bit by getting teams at favorable times.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17356285)

I was just saying this past week how it seemed like the Chiefs had gotten pretty good at containing the running QBs, but damn they struggled keeping Alllen in front of them for 3 quarters... they looked like the Texans being driven up field 10 yards and giving Allen a huge gaping hole in the middle of the field.

Figure out that shit and I don't care if the Ravens run for 150 yards... just don't give up huge chunks of scrambling yards on obvious passing downs to keep drives alive.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17357353)

And I think the league just being down in general... they played a lot of "good" teams, playoff contenders.

In terms of proven Super Bowl contenders though.... not much besides splitting the Bengals with Burrow hurt in the game they won and beating the 49ers, and regarding the latter, I guess good luck picking off Mahomes 5 times.

Of course, most of the proven SB contenders fell apart at some point this season... the NFL was trashier than normal this year, so it's damn near impossible to get a good feel for most teams.

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17357356)

We all know the Bills defense was injured last game and that benefited the Chiefs. But this offense was clicking on a different level than what we've seen pretty much all year.

Even if you take away the obvious busted coverages, the receivers were in-sync with Mahomes. Penalties were not an issue. Mahomes wasn't barking at players to run routes differently. Balls were caught. The offensive line played amazing against a healthy and deep Bills defensive line that rotates in fresh guys.

This offense is peaking at the right time, which really just means executing the simple stuff.

Originally Posted by KC Shox (Post 17357370)

Winning by 3 points against a defense missing 6 starters makes you think the offense is clicking? I’ll take the high road and just be glad we scored 27 and hope we are starting to click heading into Baltimore. They won’t have 6 starters on D not playing.

Originally Posted by KC Shox (Post 17357370)

Winning by 3 points against a defense missing 6 starters makes you think the offense is clicking? I’ll take the high road and just be glad we scored 27 and hope we are starting to click heading into Baltimore. They won’t have 6 starters on D not playing.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17357380)

Nine yards per play most of the game with only needing to convert three third downs until late in the game... and scored on 5 of 7 drives that really should have been 6 of 7 if it wasn't for Hardman's mistake.

What more do you want? :spock:

Originally Posted by KC Shox (Post 17357370)

Winning by 3 points against a defense missing 6 starters makes you think the offense is clicking? I’ll take the high road and just be glad we scored 27 and hope we are starting to click heading into Baltimore. They won’t have 6 starters on D not playing.

Originally Posted by KC Shox (Post 17357370)

Winning by 3 points against a defense missing 6 starters makes you think the offense is clicking? I’ll take the high road and just be glad we scored 27 and hope we are starting to click heading into Baltimore. They won’t have 6 starters on D not playing.

Originally Posted by KC Shox (Post 17357370)

Winning by 3 points against a defense missing 6 starters makes you think the offense is clicking? I’ll take the high road and just be glad we scored 27 and hope we are starting to click heading into Baltimore. They won’t have 6 starters on D not playing.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17357360)

And of course they destroyed the Lions and Dolphins...but it won't be noted everyone had figured out Miami by that point and the Lions are better at home and they just played bad.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17357393)

I think this is a 60/40 game for the Ravens. The Chiefs have a real shot, and the X factor is always Mahomes.

But part of the reason the Bills couldn't hang with us when we had the ball was their entire second level of their defense was awful, which threw the entire defense off. The Chiefs best weapons are intermediate threats, and that's exactly where the Bills are weakest.

The Ravens' strength is intermediate coverage. Along with all the heat they put on QBs, it makes them very hard to roast unless you have a smart QB (check!) and great deep field threats (no check).

Offensively I'll be fascinated to see what adjustments Spags makes against the run game. I'd like to see what he did against the Eagles in the Super Bowl last year, and have Bolton sit on Lamar in that RPO. I trust our secondary to slow down the Ravens weapons, though not shut them down. But Harbaugh has been on a heater this year, and his offenses have been four steps ahead of the defense all season.

If Mahomes/Reid can engineer a couple successful drives early and stall up the Ravens, I can see the Ravens going one dimensional and struggling. But any lead is going to be hard to maintain against their defense, and any smart defensive plan can have a hole poked in it by a crazy QB scramble.

I'd take the Ravens over the Chiefs in this game, but the Chiefs have a very real shot at the upset.

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17357263)

Yep. ACL, MCL, the works

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17357393)

I'd take the Ravens over the Chiefs in this game, but the Chiefs have a very real shot at the upset.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17357420)

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17357413)

Oh hell yeah Chiefs gonna win!!!!

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17357437)

Massive fail. Wanna try again? :)

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17357339)

Conversely, falling behind and allowing them to maintain balance offensively will be a tough situation to overcome.

I trust Mahomes more than Lamar to make a comeback if needed, but it won’t be easy.

Originally Posted by KC Shox (Post 17357370)

Winning by 3 points against a defense missing 6 starters makes you think the offense is clicking? I’ll take the high road and just be glad we scored 27 and hope we are starting to click heading into Baltimore. They won’t have 6 starters on D not playing.