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ThaVirus 02-15-2024 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17404396)
Unless they want to give him one more shot with a full TC and see what he can do, I guess. He would be a pretty decent H-Back and Reid does love his gimmicks from time to time.

Not a bad idea. See if he can make something pop working more out of the backfield.

His drops will be less likely to lead to INTs if he’s working in the flats or 1-on-1 with LBs.

RunKC 02-15-2024 12:05 PM

Hardman could only muster a market for the Jets which was a $1.9 million cap hit. Then he never even played for the Jets.

His market is astoundingly bad. And you figure he would want to come back bc we actually value him here.

Seems like an easy call here. Cheap contract for a guy who can replace Toney, is only 25 and is a guy Mahomes has a lot of experience with.

DaFace 02-15-2024 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17404432)
Hardman could only muster a market for the Jets which was a $1.9 million cap hit. Then he never even played for the Jets.

His market is astoundingly bad. And you figure he would want to come back bc we actually value him here.

Seems like an easy call here. Cheap contract for a guy who can replace Toney, is only 25 and is a guy Mahomes has a lot of experience with.

Yeah, at this point I'm good with keeping Hardman around in a D-Rob kind of role. We can't rely on him to be a full-time guy on the field, but he has enough talent to be a difference maker in spot work.

RaidersOftheCellar 02-15-2024 12:29 PM

How are they going to handle the WR room?

I assume James is gone. Probably Hardman too unless he accepts a really cheap deal. It's kind of hard to see them giving up on Moore this soon, even though they probably should. And I don't know what the hell's going on with Toney behind the scenes. If he's not going to be a cancer, I'd bring him back.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2024 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17404480)
How are they going to handle the WR room?

I assume James is gone. Probably Hardman too unless he accepts a really cheap deal. It's kind of hard to see them giving up on Moore this soon, even though they probably should. And I don't know what the hell's going on with Toney behind the scenes. If he's not going to be a cancer, I'd bring him back.

Clean house outside of Rice.

Maybe MVS and/or Watson end up back on the roster at veteran minimum contracts… but the initial approach should be a total teardown besides Rice.

Mecca 02-15-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17404480)
How are they going to handle the WR room?

I assume James is gone. Probably Hardman too unless he accepts a really cheap deal. It's kind of hard to see them giving up on Moore this soon, even though they probably should. And I don't know what the hell's going on with Toney behind the scenes. If he's not going to be a cancer, I'd bring him back.

Rice and Watson are locks to return
MVS will be released
Ross, Moore and Toney probably, will come to camp but have to earn their spots.
Richie James is probably gone, Hardman probably is too unless he agrees to a nothing deal then he goes into that make the team group.

There will be a 1st 3 round draft pick and a FA signing that isn't a scrub that take up 2 spots and then you'll have more young guys, UDFA's late draft pick, and likely some cheap FA signing and they'll battle it.

BWillie 02-15-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17404376)
The Giants might want to own his rights for a 2028 7th

Deal.how do we make this happen

jettio 02-15-2024 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17404432)
Hardman could only muster a market for the Jets which was a $1.9 million cap hit. Then he never even played for the Jets.

His market is astoundingly bad. And you figure he would want to come back bc we actually value him here.

Seems like an easy call here. Cheap contract for a guy who can replace Toney, is only 25 and is a guy Mahomes has a lot of experience with.

Hardman had a major injury that threatened to affect his greatest asset, his speed. He would have found a better deal if not for that.

Jets signing Aaron Rodgers doomed Hardman with the Jets, because Aaron has his "guys" and he made the Jets sign them.

Hardman healthy and training all off season and he may regain his top end speed, so I would like to see him on 2024 team.

I am for keeping KT19. the story of his season, is meniscus injury, no training camp, comes back too early, and he is not great on crossing routes with low trajectory throws.

Maybe offensive braintrust and Mahomes can give KT19 assignments that let him use his strengths.

TribalElder 02-15-2024 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17404396)
Unless they want to give him one more shot with a full TC and see what he can do, I guess. He would be a pretty decent H-Back and Reid does love his gimmicks from time to time.


I think that missing training camp is what sunk Toneys entire season.

It seemed like he waited until camp to have some basic cleanup surgery (someone can fill in what it was and when it went down)

that minor surgery allowed him to sit most of if not all of camp.

You can't take the elevator to the top, you gotta take the stairs. Skipping training camp really hurt the chemistry and overall readiness and it was on full display the first game vs the lions where Toney had more drops than I can ever remember a player having.

After that he was behind the 8 ball all season. Lining up offsides and hella drops. I think a full training camp fixes that but that is also up to the player. If he comes back and grinds, puts in teh work, full training camp and works on getting better at his craft more than he works on music videos and other hobbies he might end up being a huge asset.

taking short cuts to the top won't work, gotta take the stairs and grind

ThaVirus 02-15-2024 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17404432)
Hardman could only muster a market for the Jets which was a $1.9 million cap hit. Then he never even played for the Jets.

His market is astoundingly bad. And you figure he would want to come back bc we actually value him here.

Seems like an easy call here. Cheap contract for a guy who can replace Toney, is only 25 and is a guy Mahomes has a lot of experience with.

Yeah, I remember being a little annoyed when hearing about how little he signed with the Jets for. Then we found out from Hardman that his agent never even received an offer from KC so it seems we were set on moving on from him regardless.

It will be interesting to see if his return has changed any minds in upper management.

I also wonder if he won’t enjoy a better market after making two clutch plays in the Super Bowl.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2024 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 17404520)
I am for keeping KT19. the story of his season, is meniscus injury, no training camp, comes back too early, and he is not great on crossing routes with low trajectory throws.

Maybe offensive braintrust and Mahomes can give KT19 assignments that let him use his strengths.

A knee injury he suffered in late July was still impacting his ability to catch the ball and line up onsides in December?

And by his own admission he was fully healthy in the postseason.

So you are wrong… as usual.

BenoniBenko 02-15-2024 01:52 PM

Hardman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wallcrawler 02-15-2024 04:24 PM

Have we waived this piece of shit yet?

Mephistopheles Janx 02-15-2024 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17404292)
Guys. It’s training camp. An entire offseason.

I’m not saying he’s destined for greatness, but if he reduces his boneheadedness by 40%, Toney can be an asset to us at a cheap price.

Remember the glove adjust catch against San Francisco? You don’t want to give the guy a chance to prove he can do that again?

Look if the team determines he’s a lost cause by the end of the offseason they’ll get rid of him. Until then, there have been stranger stories in the NFL of dudes who figured their shit out when they appeared to be too stupid and immature to have any kind of career

LMFAO

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17405062)
Shit you better PM Andy on Facebook and tell him this information immediately!!!

Dude... this is an excellent post that I'm gonna get some mileage out of. Thanks!

ThaVirus 02-22-2024 04:27 PM

LMAO

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C01_q...hsbzg1NWV2eQ==

notorious 02-22-2024 04:29 PM

Sick moves, sick hands.

In58men 03-29-2024 03:23 PM

Man, I hope he’s back. I know a lot of you dislike him. I still have faith in this guy. LFG!!!!

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Womble 03-29-2024 03:31 PM

I would rather delete my eyes than follow dumbass Kadarius Toney fan accounts on social media.

wazu 03-29-2024 03:34 PM

I also hope he's back. He was born to be our kick returner under the new rules. Also, us Toney fans should probably pick a different thread to bump when we try to convert others to our side.

In58men 03-29-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17462104)
I would rather delete my eyes than follow dumbass Kadarius Toney fan accounts on social media.

Oh for ****s sake, I didn’t realize it was a stan account. I’m ****ing trash.

In58men 03-30-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17462104)
I would rather delete my eyes than follow dumbass Kadarius Toney fan accounts on social media.

This is a little better

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐎𝐑:<br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> were going to CUT Kadarius Toney, but now with the new kick-off rules he is likely to remain on the team next season.<br><br>Toney has the longest punt return TD in Super Bowl history 😳 <a href="https://t.co/STu7Tz5asn">pic.twitter.com/STu7Tz5asn</a></p>&mdash; NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1774107348191387862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

wazu 03-30-2024 12:56 PM

Not much better as it falsely claims Toney had a punt return TD in the Super Bowl.

BWillie 03-30-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17462752)
This is a little better

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐎𝐑:<br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> were going to CUT Kadarius Toney, but now with the new kick-off rules he is likely to remain on the team next season.<br><br>Toney has the longest punt return TD in Super Bowl history 😳 <a href="https://t.co/STu7Tz5asn">pic.twitter.com/STu7Tz5asn</a></p>&mdash; NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1774107348191387862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

God damn it

In58men 03-30-2024 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17462755)
Not much better as it falsely claims Toney had a punt return TD in the Super Bowl.

You shut your whore mouth!!!

FloridaMan88 03-30-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17462752)
This is a little better

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">����������:<br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> were going to CUT Kadarius Toney, but now with the new kick-off rules he is likely to remain on the team next season.<br><br>Toney has the longest punt return TD in Super Bowl history �� <a href="https://t.co/STu7Tz5asn">pic.twitter.com/STu7Tz5asn</a></p>&mdash; NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1774107348191387862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

All because of one great… punt… not a kickoff.. a PUNT RETURN… in his Chiefs career? And that wasn’t a punt return “TD”.

Seriously time to move on, this guy is toxic.

DaFace 03-30-2024 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17462752)
This is a little better

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">����������:<br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> were going to CUT Kadarius Toney, but now with the new kick-off rules he is likely to remain on the team next season.<br><br>Toney has the longest punt return TD in Super Bowl history �� <a href="https://t.co/STu7Tz5asn">pic.twitter.com/STu7Tz5asn</a></p>&mdash; NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1774107348191387862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It still doesn't make any sense. They have zero incentive to cut him before the end of training camp unless he's a problem in the locker room.

Bowser 03-30-2024 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17462851)
It still doesn't make any sense. They have zero incentive to cut him before the end of training camp unless he's a problem in the locker room.

We've got the rugby player with blazing speed to handle kickoffs now, anyway.

DaFace 03-30-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17462891)
We've got the rugby player with blazing speed to handle kickoffs now, anyway.

Sure, but cutting him saves us literally nothing, and for all we know the rugby star is gonna tear his ACL the first day of OTAs. You don't cut assets unless there's negative value in keeping them.

RealSNR 03-30-2024 03:32 PM

The San Francisco game when he first got traded to us is still within him. The glove adjust catch?

But I hope we don’t wait for it. If it’s not apparent, then move on

Megatron96 03-30-2024 03:39 PM

Meh. I'm over being mad about this guy. He's incredibly immature, but he could grow up. Maybe even this offseason.


If he does, he could be a great asset on the field. If he doesn't, he'll just be a footnote in Chiefs history in a year or two and we'll all just forget about him, just like all the other shitty players we've had to deal with over the years.

TwistedChief 03-30-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17462821)
All because of one great… punt… not a kickoff.. a PUNT RETURN… in his Chiefs career? And that wasn’t a punt return “TD”.

Seriously time to move on, this guy is toxic.

And you choose to believe this "report."

Dunerdr 03-30-2024 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17462752)
This is a little better

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐎𝐑:<br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> were going to CUT Kadarius Toney, but now with the new kick-off rules he is likely to remain on the team next season.<br><br>Toney has the longest punt return TD in Super Bowl history 😳 <a href="https://t.co/STu7Tz5asn">pic.twitter.com/STu7Tz5asn</a></p>&mdash; NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1774107348191387862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They would have already done it if they were. Bunch of bullshit.

BigRedChief 03-30-2024 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17462953)
They would have already done it if they were. Bunch of bullshit.

LRZ is our kick off returner. He's faster than Toney.

Dunerdr 03-30-2024 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17462984)
LRZ is our kick off returner. He's faster than Toney.

Wasn’t like half the point of this kick return in the xfl the threat of the lateral? So you’d ideally want a couple guy to threaten? Let toney the ex qb toss it back.

notorious 03-30-2024 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17462953)
They would have already done it if they were. Bunch of bullshit.

Holding out for a 2245 7th round pick in a trade.

BWillie 03-30-2024 04:26 PM

Yeah no reason to cut him yet but he's not going to make the team guys. Mahomes will be redass in Veach's office if Toney makes the team.

FloridaMan88 03-30-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17462851)
It still doesn't make any sense. They have zero incentive to cut him before the end of training camp unless he's a problem in the locker room.

Throwing a temper tantrum on social media right before the AFC Championship Game should have sealed his fate.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-30-2024 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17463080)
Throwing a temper tantrum on social media right before the AFC Championship Game should have sealed his fate.

isnt their mixed reporting on that, some saying it was from his Giants days? Anyway, I trust Andy to make the right decision on whether he should be in camp.

BWillie 03-30-2024 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17463145)
isnt their mixed reporting on that, some saying it was from his Giants days? Anyway, I trust Andy to make the right decision on whether he should be in camp.

Mahomes has already made the decision.

Bump 03-30-2024 06:01 PM

Speaking of Toney though, let's bring back Mecole Hardman on a 1 year vet minimum deal for some quality depth.

Red Dawg 03-30-2024 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17462909)
Sure, but cutting him saves us literally nothing, and for all we know the rugby star is gonna tear his ACL the first day of OTAs. You don't cut assets unless there's negative value in keeping them.

We have already seen negative. He lost 3 games with his sloppy hands.

saphojunkie 03-30-2024 06:36 PM

I always expected Toney and Moore in training camp, and I expect neither week 1.

Skyy just doesn't do anything extra to justify that 4th/5th WR spot. Toney at least does, but if he drops a SINGLE pass from Mahomes it will be a disproportionate response.

1. Rice
2. Brown
3. Rookie
4. Watson
5. ??? Ross/Remigio ???

That's the problem. Unless Mecole comes back, we literally don't have a full WR room and certainly not enough to compete in camp.


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