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I just have bad memories of Frank Clark signing a big contract with the Chiefs and he was sick with the stomach flu half of the time. He would show up for the playoffs for what that's worth.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...dt-chris-jones
Not to bad a deal <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the full details on the new Chris Jones deal: <a href="https://t.co/EZ9jTZozkc">https://t.co/EZ9jTZozkc</a></p>— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1766973183658283292?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Looks like Clark stepped in to get it done...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clark Hunt! ����*����<br>A+</p>— Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1766955508278120574?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is how Chris Jones' $158.75 million contract will break down on the salary cap for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a><a href="https://t.co/Yd55Sq5Fyw">https://t.co/Yd55Sq5Fyw</a></p>— Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1766982341598065036?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
7.3m cap number this year is crazy |
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Wait, am I reading this right… wouldn’t that year one cap hit be like $6.5M plus whatever proration is left from the last deal? |
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The history of Clark Hunt stepping in and forcing a deal to get done is not great. |
Trade Sneed eliminating his franchise tag number…Chiefs should have roughly $15M in cap space…I think
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Holy shit. ****ing Brilliant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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His value may never be higher. Cash out while we have the chance and keep infusing the roster with young talent. I absolutely loathe the idea of getting sucked into “going all in”. Just stay with the process that’s gotten us to this point and let’s keep rolling. No need to start throwing around big contracts all of a sudden to multiple guys and start putting ourselves in cap trouble. |
Chiefs are about $5 million over the cap with the Jones contract...expect some restructuring and or other roster moves in the next few days.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs |
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That bonus structure is just surprising as hell to me. Dude must've wanted to stay afterall. |
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At this point it seems clear that they're not keeping him here on the tag. |
BRING BACK SNEED AND LET’S RUN IT THE **** BACK!!!!!
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Let's go to TwoBillsDrive and find out how they feel about it!
They've become my barometer for how good a move is. If they're apoplectic, I don't really need to read any further. |
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“It’s essentially a 3 year deal. But it’s well worth it. Dude is a beast . But hey we have Von right?” |
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Only $36 million in dead money the last 2 years. Lot of protection there in the back half
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Which would be a good problem to have cause him getting restructured would mean things are going well on this current deal but |
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Summary: ****... Maybe it will turn out like Von but with their luck he will be all pro for 5 years... |
It’s so damn nice to have our force multiplier back while we continue to develop George and FAU.
Another couple years with him and Cullen - if you can’t develop and show your best stuff in this well insulated spot, you just ****ing suck. But I’m betting this sets those two up to create even bigger names for themselves in the next two years. |
There appears to be a lot of teams interested in Sneed. If I'm DET I'm going after him hard. There's nothing at pick 29 that will come close to contributing the way Sneed would next year and they have a ton of cap. All it takes is two hot teams for that price to sky rocket.
The ideal time for the Sneed trade to occur is tomorrow before 3 pm. Every team still has all their money. I'll be looking for it. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones will have a salary cap hit of $7.35 million in 2024.<br><br>2025: $34.85m<br>2026: $41.1m<br>2027: $34.35m<br>2028: $41.1m<br><br>There are roster bonuses to adjust the cap number when needed but still big numbers. <a href="https://t.co/7jse2CVN6C">https://t.co/7jse2CVN6C</a></p>— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1766984681667351030?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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This poster, Success, on the Bills board gets it:
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Shit man, I thought the $24 in dead money I'd have loaded into the back was extremely. $36 million in dead money over 2 seasons is MASSIVE. |
Comparing to Von is definitely wishful thinking — Chris is still a few years younger than Von was when he signed, and doesn’t have the injury history Von had.
The far more likely outcome is Aaron Donald’s trajectory, who like Chris, didn’t have a bad injury history. Chris of course is entering his age 30 season. When was Donald’s age 30 season you may wonder? The year he carried the Rams to a Super Bowl victory. Barring catastrophic injury, it’s at least 2025 before we see signs of slowing down and might be more like 2027 before we feel the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. |
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Reggie White signed with the packers when he was 31. He played 6 great seasons in GB. Reggie is the exception to the rule but it’s not unprecedented for a DT to continue to be highly productive in their early thirties.
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The previous contract has a 3.4 dead cap hit. So in total Jones will be counting for about 10.7 against the cap. |
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If we get some form a veteran LT and a moderate WR, we’re in terrific shape for the draft. The draft can realistically go 70-30 offense-defense without needing to reach for a glaring need. |
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...s-jones-18985/ If we want to cut him before the 4th season, we'd have a $12 mil dead cap hit. |
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Obviously that isn't enough to sign free agents (although deals can be made and the signings just delayed) or sign draft picks. But we aren't actually over the cap right now. We are cap compliant. There are still 5 teams that have work to do to get under the cap by Wednesday: the 49ers, Saints, Bills, Chargers and Dolphins. |
So now that the smoke has cleared we have roughly $5 mil in cap space. A Sneed trade would put us around $26 mil. We could even restructure Patrick's contract and/or cut a guy like Justin Reid but I'd rather keep Reid.
All in all we're looking shockingly good if Sneed gets traded tomorrow morning. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndica...tract.amp.html |
I can't believe we actually resigned him. I thought there was a 1% chance that it'd happen.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The full Chris Jones deal with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, per source: He gets 5-years for $158.75M. That’s an NFL DT record of $31.75M per year average.<br><br>He gets $60.2M fully-guaranteed over the first two years and $95.3M practically guaranteed over the first three years. <br><br>He has a… <a href="https://t.co/s46sAtaHox">pic.twitter.com/s46sAtaHox</a></p>— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1767056094822547665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Why are you so whiny again? |
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Didn't Frank Clark get restructured/extended even after it was clear he wasn't producing anywhere close to his cap hit? |
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With how good Veach has been drafting in the middle and later rounds they can afford to pay a number of studs. You can have a god at each level of defense because you've drafted cheap studs at CB and LB. Mahomes has reached the level where he scored enough points to win vs. a top 5 D in the SB with the most scrub set of WR's I've ever watched in a SB. I don't think the NFL can produce a defense in this era that can prevent Mahomes from winning. |
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Connor-11th Cook- 57th Reid- 79th -Justin Reid makes $12 million while the other two are on cheap rookie deals. Justin Reid is however the sweetest of sweeties and Spags/DB's would be lost without him. That by itself is worth half the money Reid makes. People who entertain the notion of cutting Reid to maybe sign a LT or something are just plain silly. In fact I think Justin Reid would be fine at LT. Spags believes in him and that's all that matters. You don't cut sweeties like Justin Reid! Reid is very handsome too! It doesn't get talked about enough. Mahomes has a Dad bod now and the DB's need something to look at. |
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And for the record, their tears are delicious. |
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We'll see how the team feels about Reid ... if it extends him, clearly the team has the opposite view as PFF. |
I was kinda surprised at how much we agreed to with Jones...then I realised the Broncos are paying Wilson more to play for another team and having to bin their best players. You love to see it.
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But that's just not how we use him. Whether PFF is accurate or not isn't even the right question here - it's whether or not it even matters given how he's used for us. We use him as a box safety and almost hybrid LBer. He's used as a true 'old school' strong safety more than anything. PFF doesn't seem inclined to account for that at all. He did the job we asked of him quite well this year and that's what's relevant. |
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He also calls the plays for the DB's and Spags loves him. |
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They’re garbage otherwise. |
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In all seriousness, I hate PFF's grades, but I love their analytical and premium stats. It's the only reason I have a membership. Yes I'd love to see exactly how each player does when they are lined up in certain positions on the defense, etc. Plus I appreciate the analytical stats too that others don't often have. But yes, **** their grading system. |
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The component parts of RAS are interesting. The 'score' that it creates is just absolutely asinine. |
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