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Kiimo 05-08-2024 08:40 AM

Reading up on Treylon Burks and I'm gonna pass, thanks


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He's really bad, and it honestly was very predictable that he would be. Basically the epitome of the kind of player that may sometimes work in college but won't work in the NFL.

Big but not that big (and probably a bit overweight for his height), not very fast, absolutely terrible agility both on tape and from his combine workouts, not very athletic as demonstrated by a vertical of 33. Doesn't separate. Shows lack of effort. Extremely poor route running. The Titans thinking they could replace AJ Brown with him was absolutely hilarious at the time and has only gotten more so.

The fact that he went 18th overall really shows the lack of depth of the WR class that year. Extremely slim pickings after London, Wilson and Olave. In this past draft class I swear he'd be like WR15 to 20 at best.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513012)
Dumbass.

Nah, he ain't wrong. Until rashee can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he can change himself then you suspend him as long as you need to. And you don't let the nfl be the only bad guys. He needs to know he is hanging on to this roster spot by a thread and the chiefs can't act all eager to get him back. And even better if the chiefs can prove they can find ways to win without him, which they will.

Suspend him indefinitely. And then get him back when he's bettered himself. And even after that give him time to earn his job back. And if he regresses even a little you send him backwards on that path. If the threat of jail or a huge suspension ain't gonna scare him straight, the threat of losing it all hopefully will

Titty Meat 05-08-2024 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17513024)
LMAO, the above from the "I heard from a buddy..." dude.

Tell that dude just because his buddy handcuffs him doesn't mean he's a cop

staylor26 05-08-2024 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513026)
Nah, he ain't wrong. Until rashee can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he can change himself then you suspend him as long as you need to. And you don't let the nfl be the only bad guys. He needs to know he is hanging on to this roster spot by a thread and the chiefs can't act all eager to get him back. And even better if the chiefs can prove they can find ways to win without him, which they will.

Suspend him indefinitely. And then get him back when he's bettered himself. And even after that give him time to earn his job back. And if he regresses even a little you send him backwards on that path. If the threat of jail or a huge suspension ain't gonna scare him straight, the threat of losing it all hopefully will

Another idiot.

Any Chiefs fans actively rooting for him to be suspended for the entire year are ****ing dumbasses. It would be the most extreme punishment in NFL history. Why are you morons so willing to bend over and take it from the NFL?

staylor26 05-08-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17513025)
Reading up on Treylon Burks and I'm gonna pass, thanks

By reading up, do you mean a Reddit post from a Titans fan?

O.city 05-08-2024 08:45 AM

He'll get his however many game suspension and they'll move forward. The Chiefs aren't gonna have to do anything, the NFL will handle it.

Good lord.

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-08-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513028)
Another idiot.

Any Chiefs fans actively rooting for him to be suspended for the entire year are ****ing dumbasses. It would be the most extreme punishment in NFL history. Why are you morons so willing to bend over and take it from the NFL?

and for the record, if he is charged with assault, this is a separate incident. So my bet with 493rd is off as he would most likely get 5-6 games total. If it is shown he was not culpable in this incident, then the bet stands with the over under at 4.5.

Kiimo 05-08-2024 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513034)
By reading up, do you mean a Reddit post from a Titans fan?



yes but also one that does a lot of draft stuff so is it the most qualified opinion in the world? nah. is it more qualified than mine? yes.

staylor26 05-08-2024 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17513040)
yes but also one that does a lot of draft stuff so is it the most qualified opinion in the world? nah. is it more qualified than mine? yes.

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The fact that he went 18th overall really shows the lack of depth of the WR class that year. Extremely slim pickings after London, Wilson and Olave. In this past draft class I swear he'd be like WR15 to 20 at best.
This is just an absolutely reeruned take that reeks of revisionist history. You're free to take it as the gospel though.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513028)
Another idiot.

Any Chiefs fans actively rooting for him to be suspended for the entire year are ****ing dumbasses. It would be the most extreme punishment in NFL history. Why are you morons so willing to bend over and take it from the NFL?

I'm not rooting for him to be suspended. I am rooting for him to get rid of his out of control entitlement. And to not treat the NFL like the bad guys keeping our precious rashee from helping us win games.

It does ****ing nothing if we bring him back sooner than when he learns a lesson. And he's not gonna learn shit unless it hits him right in the gonads. The chiefs aren't gonna repeat the same mistake they made with Kareem and just take his word for it that he's trying to get better. There have to be consequences and that has to come from the chiefs, not big daddy goodell

ThaVirus 05-08-2024 08:55 AM

Did anyone have eyes on Rashee when the Challenger exploded?

ThrobProng 05-08-2024 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17513056)
Did anyone have eyes on Rashee when the Challenger exploded?

I thought it was a Lamborghini.

staylor26 05-08-2024 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513054)
I'm not rooting for him to be suspended. I am rooting for him to get rid of his out of control entitlement. And to not treat the NFL like the bad guys keeping our precious rashee from helping us win games.

It does ****ing nothing if we bring him back sooner than when he learns a lesson. And he's not gonna learn shit unless it hits him right in the gonads. The chiefs aren't gonna repeat the same mistake they made with Kareem and just take his word for it that he's trying to get better. There have to be consequences and that has to come from the chiefs, not big daddy goodell

So if he gets suspended for the appropriate amount (let's say 8-10 games assuming he's charged for assault too), it likely won't be enough, but a full season will surely get the point across?

He's getting a pretty significant suspension either way, the only thing making it a full season would do is **** the Chiefs when they're going for a 3peat.

Again, ****ing reeruned.

ptlyon 05-08-2024 09:04 AM

Whatever the length ends up to be, without pay will get his attention, especially if it ends up being half the season.

But I'm betting it won't be.

BleedingRed 05-08-2024 09:06 AM

You know maybe Toney isn’t that bad after all

raybec 4 05-08-2024 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17513035)
He'll get his however many game suspension and they'll move forward. The Chiefs aren't gonna have to do anything, the NFL will handle it.

Good lord.

Right?! Where the **** is all this "Make an example" horse shit coming from? Jesus, some folks aren't happy unless they're being contrary.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513065)
So if he gets suspended for the appropriate amount (let's say 8-10 games assuming he's charged for assault too), it likely won't be enough, but a full season will surely get the point across?

He's getting a pretty significant suspension either way, the only thing making it a full season would do is **** the Chiefs when they're going for a 3peat.

Again, ****ing reeruned.

6-10 games was already on the table and this idiot was in the bars at 2am in full public view a few weeks later. Kareem hunt was already under threat of suspension when he got drunk in public and got into a fight a few months later. These suspensions dont mean dick to guys who are too stubborn or entitled to change their ways.

If rashee proves beyond a reasonable doubt he is changing his ways, the chiefs can bring him back sooner. And even still I would make him earn it. If these guys still do stupid shit when the worst possible scenario was already staring them in the face how naive do you have to be to think that kind of penalty alone will do anything. Ok, so we get rashee back after a half season, he becomes a celebrity again, and he goes back to his old ways. If a little extra time drives the point home it was worth way more than a few short term wins

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17513072)
You know maybe Toney isn’t that bad after all

This made me LOL

staylor26 05-08-2024 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513117)
6-10 games was already on the table and this idiot was in the bars at 2am in full public view a few weeks later. Kareem hunt was already under threat of suspension when he got drunk in public and got into a fight a few months later. These suspensions dont mean dick to guys who are too stubborn or entitled to change their ways.

If rashee proves beyond a reasonable doubt he is changing his ways, the chiefs can bring him back sooner. And even still I would make him earn it. If these guys still do stupid shit when the worst possible scenario was already staring them in the face how naive do you have to be to think that kind of penalty alone will do anything. Ok, so we get rashee back after a half season, he becomes a celebrity again, and he goes back to his old ways. If a little extra time drives the point home it was worth way more than a few short term wins

Good thing you idiots have zero say in the matter...

ThaVirus 05-08-2024 09:28 AM

I have it on good authority that Rashee was the whisper in Pol Pot’s ear

RunKC 05-08-2024 09:30 AM

Hollywood-hasn’t played a full season since 2021
Watson-depth receiver
Skyy-lol
Toney-lol
Worthy-rookie
Kelce-34
Wiley-rookie

Yeah we need another vet WR

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513123)
Good thing you idiots have zero say in the matter...

Lolololol

You do realize the chiefs already gave him a second chance in defiance of public opinion. And within a few weeks hes already screwed it up. So what the chiefs tried already did not work.

I trust Andy and Clark on this and I assure you they are way more pissed and way less lenient for a third chance than you are

staylor26 05-08-2024 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513152)
Lolololol

You do realize the chiefs already gave him a second chance in defiance of public opinion. And within a few weeks hes already screwed it up. So what the chiefs tried already did not work.

I trust Andy and Clark on this and I assure you they are way more pissed and way less lenient for a third chance than you are

Oh so now you're convinced that Andy and Clark believe he needs to be suspended for the year too?

LMAO

jd1020 05-08-2024 09:34 AM

No guns were involved this time. Progress.

ThaVirus 05-08-2024 09:35 AM

Shame they never caught that Rashee the Rippe- I mean, Jack the Ripper fellow..

raybec 4 05-08-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513156)
Oh so now you're convinced that Andy and Clark believe he needs to be suspended for the year now too?

LMAO

https://y.yarn.co/939c0b37-cad2-48b5...5b4a9_text.gif

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513156)
Oh so now you're convinced that Andy and Clark believe he needs to be suspended for the year now too?

LMAO

Considering the last two guys who were on the cusp of a half year suspension didn't take that threat at all seriously, I think they will bring him back when they are 100% sure he has learned an actual lesson. And they aren't going to just trust that the nfl suspension will cover it. If that means rashee didn't feel it enough in those games or you feel he needs to earn his starting job back, you extend it longer. Andy has shown many many times he isn't afraid to leave someone in his doghouse even when we need them

Yes I feel Andy is confident enough in his team that he won't do this a moment sooner. And he is not afraid to lose a guy if he doesn't want to respect his authority.

It was already a mistake to allow him to stay involved with the team. They aren't going to make the same mostake and bring him back sooner than he is ready.

siberian khatru 05-08-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17513160)
No guns were involved this time. Progress.

Take this FWIW, which might be zero, but Steven St. John on 810 this morning said that according to his source in the Dallas PD:

1. The photographer's jaw was broken
2. A member of Rice's crew pulled a gun on him

We should find out soon enough on No. 1, and I would assume there could be security cam footage of No. 2 if it happened.

Molitoth 05-08-2024 09:40 AM

at least he still has his street cred.

THUG LIFE FOR LIFE

raybec 4 05-08-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513168)
Considering the last two guys who were on the cusp of a half year suspension didn't take that threat at all seriously, I think they will bring him back when they are 100% sure he has learned an actual lesson. And they aren't going to just trust that the nfl suspension will cover it.

Yes I feel Andy is confident enough in his team that he won't do this a moment sooner. And he is not afraid to lose a guy if he doesn't want to respect his authority.

It was already a mistake to allow him to stay involved with the team. They aren't going to make the same mostake and bring him back sooner than he is ready.

So, if they happen to let him stay working out with the team and going to anything not forbidden by an NFL suspension does that mean he learned his lesson?

TwistedChief 05-08-2024 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513152)
Lolololol

You do realize the chiefs already gave him a second chance in defiance of public opinion.

In defiance of public opinion? Did I miss that vote?

threebag 05-08-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513178)
In defiance of public opinion? Did I miss that vote?

No, BRC voted, so it was unanimous LMAO

staylor26 05-08-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17513173)
Take this FWIW, which might be zero, but Steven St. John on 810 this morning said that according to his source in the Dallas PD:

1. The photographer's jaw was broken
2. A member of Rice's crew pulled a gun on him

We should find out soon enough on No. 1, and I would assume there could be security cam footage of No. 2 if it happened.

His jaw was broken, yet all the report (also from Dallas PD) said was that he had some swelling in the left side of his face?

Yea, I'm calling bullshit.

ThrobProng 05-08-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513178)
In defiance of public opinion? Did I miss that vote?

I'm sure there was low voter turnout, considering most people outside of CP don't give two shits about this story.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17513176)
So, if they happen to let him stay working out with the team and going to anything not forbidden by an NFL suspension does that mean he learned his lesson?

Rashee isn't going to learn his lesson if he knows he just needs to serve his time and then he's a celebrity again. He's only going to take this shit seriously if the chiefs make it clear they have no problem cutting him. He isn't gonna learn shit until he realizes everything he has can be taken away.

The chiefs welcoming him back with open arms was already a mistake. He treated it like he was back and all the legal and suspension shit was just a setback. And with the threat of jail, almost killing someone, a certain long ass suspension, and with I'm sure a very stern warning from Andy and Clark NONE of that shit seemed to register with him. So if a man isn't even remotely threatened by some of the worst consequences possible, it's going to take a lot to make this get through his thick skull

Sassy Squatch 05-08-2024 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17513173)
Take this FWIW, which might be zero, but Steven St. John on 810 this morning said that according to his source in the Dallas PD:

1. The photographer's jaw was broken
2. A member of Rice's crew pulled a gun on him

We should find out soon enough on No. 1, and I would assume there could be security cam footage of No. 2 if it happened.

Welp. If that's accurate and there's footage of it Rice may well be gone for the year.

Hammock Parties 05-08-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513182)
His jaw was broken, yet all the report (also from Dallas PD) said was that he had some swelling in the left side of his face?

Yea, I'm calling bullshit.

HE GOOD

smithandrew051 05-08-2024 09:49 AM

Liar Liar is in my head.

“Stop breaking the law, ASSHOLE!!!”

ThrobProng 05-08-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513186)
Rashee isn't going to learn his lesson if he knows he just needs to serve his time and then he's a celebrity again. He's only going to take this shit seriously if the chiefs make it clear they have no problem cutting him. He isn't gonna learn shit until he realizes everything he has can be taken away.

The chiefs welcoming him back with open arms was already a mistake. He treated it like he was back and all the legal and suspension shit was just a setback. And with the threat of jail, almost killing someone, a certain long ass suspension, and with I'm sure a very stern warning from Andy and Clark NONE of that shit seemed to register with him. So if a man isn't even remotely threatened by some of the worst consequences possible, it's going to take a lot to make this get through his thick skull

That's exactly how this works, welcome to the world of professional athletes. You must be new.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513178)
In defiance of public opinion? Did I miss that vote?

Kansas city fans like myself were fine with it since we want to win. I'd say it was a consensus outside of Kansas city that it felt a bit soon. Rashee participating in drills even if remotely raised plenty of eyebrows.

staylor26 05-08-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513192)
Kansas city fans like myself were fine with it since we want to win. I'd say it was a consensus outside of Kansas city that it felt a bit soon. Rashee participating in drills even if remotely raised plenty of eyebrows.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

TwistedChief 05-08-2024 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513192)
Kansas city fans like myself were fine with it since we want to win. I'd say it was a consensus outside of Kansas city that it felt a bit soon. Rashee participating in drills even if remotely raised plenty of eyebrows.

It felt a bit soon for him to be doing his job and participating in drills?

This was public opinion?

Are you crazy?

ChiTown 05-08-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513192)
Kansas city fans like myself were fine with it since we want to win. I'd say it was a consensus outside of Kansas city that it felt a bit soon. Rashee participating in drills even if remotely raised plenty of eyebrows.

Link?

staylor26 05-08-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513199)
It felt a bit soon for him to be doing his job and participating in drills?

This was public opinion?

Are you crazy?

Yes, he is.

How many people outside of KC does this moron think even know he was working out? LMAO

ThrobProng 05-08-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513192)
Kansas city fans like myself were fine with it since we want to win. I'd say it was a consensus outside of Kansas city that it felt a bit soon. Rashee participating in drills even if remotely raised plenty of eyebrows.

You mean fans who fabricate eyebrow-related statements in an attempt to spin a narrative?

jd1020 05-08-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513192)
Kansas city fans like myself were fine with it since we want to win. I'd say it was a consensus outside of Kansas city that it felt a bit soon. Rashee participating in drills even if remotely raised plenty of eyebrows.

I haven't paid much attention to this whole situation, but the Chiefs have invested millions in this person, are they supposed to just tell him to go drink beer and eat cupcakes because of an accident he caused that probably doesn't lead to jail time?

Sassy Squatch 05-08-2024 09:56 AM

I honestly don't know why anyone even engages with chiefzilla. He refuses to concede anything he's wrong about even when given explicit proof of it. You're essentially debating an obstinate brick wall.

louie aguiar 05-08-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17513173)
Take this FWIW, which might be zero, but Steven St. John on 810 this morning said that according to his source in the Dallas PD:

1. The photographer's jaw was broken
2. A member of Rice's crew pulled a gun on him

We should find out soon enough on No. 1, and I would assume there could be security cam footage of No. 2 if it happened.

If it’s true he broke his jaw, that’s way different than pushing a camera away, “get that outta my face” type deal.

ThaVirus 05-08-2024 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17513206)
I honestly don't know why anyone even engages with chiefzilla. He refuses to concede anything he's wrong about even when given explicit proof of it. You're essentially debating an obstinate brick wall.

He just like me fr fr

raybec 4 05-08-2024 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513186)
Rashee isn't going to learn his lesson if he knows he just needs to serve his time and then he's a celebrity again. He's only going to take this shit seriously if the chiefs make it clear they have no problem cutting him. He isn't gonna learn shit until he realizes everything he has can be taken away.

The chiefs welcoming him back with open arms was already a mistake. He treated it like he was back and all the legal and suspension shit was just a setback. And with the threat of jail, almost killing someone, a certain long ass suspension, and with I'm sure a very stern warning from Andy and Clark NONE of that shit seemed to register with him. So if a man isn't even remotely threatened by some of the worst consequences possible, it's going to take a lot to make this get through his thick skull

Thank you for your in depth analysis of the psyche of a pro athelete but that in no way answers the question I asked. Do you think that if they don't add some arbitrary suspension over and above what the NFL imposes that he "learned his lesson"? You said you trust them and were certain that they would ensure that he got the message.

stevieray 05-08-2024 10:09 AM

:shake:

Mecca 05-08-2024 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17513173)
Take this FWIW, which might be zero, but Steven St. John on 810 this morning said that according to his source in the Dallas PD:

1. The photographer's jaw was broken
2. A member of Rice's crew pulled a gun on him

We should find out soon enough on No. 1, and I would assume there could be security cam footage of No. 2 if it happened.

You have to take 810 with a huge grain of salt, the Chiefs basically frozen them out so they love to run with the negative stories.

New World Order 05-08-2024 10:15 AM

Well, whatever happens with Rashee I still have some positive news:

I am a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs!!!!

Chief Pagan 05-08-2024 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513186)
Rashee isn't going to learn his lesson if he knows he just needs to serve his time and then he's a celebrity again. He's only going to take this shit seriously if the chiefs make it clear they have no problem cutting him. He isn't gonna learn shit until he realizes everything he has can be taken away.

The chiefs welcoming him back with open arms was already a mistake. He treated it like he was back and all the legal and suspension shit was just a setback. And with the threat of jail, almost killing someone, a certain long ass suspension, and with I'm sure a very stern warning from Andy and Clark NONE of that shit seemed to register with him. So if a man isn't even remotely threatened by some of the worst consequences possible, it's going to take a lot to make this get through his thick skull

If the Chiefs cut him, some other team will sign him.

So how exactly is that everything being taken away?

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513199)
It felt a bit soon for him to be doing his job and participating in drills?

This was public opinion?

Are you crazy?

Public opinion outside of Kansas city was that the guy belonged in jail and is a criminal. And that he almost killed someone. So yeah if you're not a fan of this team you're probably mocking the chiefs for being enablers and for playing scumbags. Again I have zero issue with it, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think people were judging the chiefs for letting rashee participate vs telling him to work out on his own until everything was sorted out

I'm not saying this like it was bad. I'm just pointing out that we stuck our neck out for him and put our reputation on the line and all we probably asked of him was the simple request to just lay low

Mecca 05-08-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513244)
Public opinion outside of Kansas city was that the guy belonged in jail and is a criminal. And that he almost killed someone. So yeah if you're not a fan of this team you're probably mocking the chiefs for being enablers and for playing scumbags. Again I have zero issue with it, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think people were judging the chiefs for letting rashee participate vs telling him to work out on his own until everything was sorted out

I'm not saying this like it was bad. I'm just pointing out that we stuck our neck out for him and put our reputation on the line and all we probably asked of him was the simple request to just lay low

All teams have criminals so who cares?

staylor26 05-08-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17513241)
If the Chiefs cut him, some other team will sign him.

So how exactly is that everything being taken away?

You're talking to somebody who keeps bringing Hunt up without realizing the lesson it should've taught the Chiefs (and us).

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17513219)
Thank you for your in depth analysis of the psyche of a pro athelete but that in no way answers the question I asked. Do you think that if they don't add some arbitrary suspension over and above what the NFL imposes that he "learned his lesson"? You said you trust them and were certain that they would ensure that he got the message.

Do you think the threat of NFL punishment did a single damn thing to teach Kareem or rashee a lesson? So why do you insist that alone is enough?

ThrobProng 05-08-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513244)
Public opinion outside of Kansas city was that the guy belonged in jail and is a criminal.

In other words, you read some bullshit on Twitter.

Mecca 05-08-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513250)
Do you think the threat of NFL punishment did a single damn thing to teach Kareem or rashee a lesson? So why do you insist that alone is enough?

Why are you so insistent on them learning a lesson? Kareem Hunt went on to play several more years so apparently it worked out fine for him?

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17513247)
All teams have criminals so who cares?

The chiefs were willing to forgive tyreek for some really shocking behavior. To the point of trusting him the second time the accusations rolled around. Because he put the work in and I kinda wonder if losing that is why he's become a complete diva in Miami. So it isn't about off the field conduct. This is about a player who was undoubtedly told by Reid and Clark to take the simple step of laying low for a while, and rashee violating that trust.

If the most severe of punishments staring you in the face don't put the fear of god in you to be better, what will?

TwistedChief 05-08-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513244)
Public opinion outside of Kansas city was that the guy belonged in jail and is a criminal. And that he almost killed someone. So yeah if you're not a fan of this team you're probably mocking the chiefs for being enablers and for playing scumbags. Again I have zero issue with it, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think people were judging the chiefs for letting rashee participate vs telling him to work out on his own until everything was sorted out

I'm not saying this like it was bad. I'm just pointing out that we stuck our neck out for him and put our reputation on the line and all we probably asked of him was the simple request to just lay low

Dude, stop. This is so dumb. You hear a few people say something about it and you immediately translate that into being "public opinion." Florio is your north star?

Are you this naive? Or is it more likely that you're just not going to hear from the non-Chiefs fans who don't think this is an exile-able offense to even spend a minute commenting on it?

You're living in dreamland.

ptlyon 05-08-2024 10:26 AM

Sounds like rice needs to pay zilla a house call

dlphg9 05-08-2024 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17513206)
I honestly don't know why anyone even engages with chiefzilla. He refuses to concede anything he's wrong about even when given explicit proof of it. You're essentially debating an obstinate brick wall.

He's a clown. There is no point even bothering with him. It is a waste of everyone's time.

dlphg9 05-08-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513260)
Dude, stop. This is so dumb. You hear a few people say something about it and you immediately translate that into being "public opinion." Florio is your north star?

Are you this naive? Or is it more likely that you're just not going to hear from the non-Chiefs fans who don't think this is an exile-able offense to even spend a minute commenting on it?

You're living in dreamland.

He's not naive. He's just a complete and total dipshit. I could only imagine how insufferable he is IRL.

threebag 05-08-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17513202)
Yes, he is.

How many people outside of KC does this moron think even know he was working out? LMAO

ALL of the Swifties

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17513241)
If the Chiefs cut him, some other team will sign him.

So how exactly is that everything being taken away?

I don't think the chiefs should cut him. But they can give him a long hard road to earning his job and snaps back.

Kareem hunt was supposed to have everything taken away to teach him a lesson. There are a lot of rumblings that team owners were furious at Dorsey because there was a gentlemen's agreement that the chiefs were falling on the sword to protect the shield. For the same reason nobody touched ray rice even years later.

Mecca 05-08-2024 10:29 AM

I mean yea I'm sure all the other fan bases want him suspended all year, I mean they want us to lose it has nothing to do with anything else.

staylor26 05-08-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513260)
Dude, stop. This is so dumb. You hear a few people say something about it and you immediately translate that into being "public opinion." Florio is your north star?

Are you this naive? Or is it more likely that you're just not going to hear from the non-Chiefs fans who don't think this is an exile-able offense to even spend a minute commenting on it?

You're living in dreamland.


https://i.imgur.com/OA0pojy.jpeg

PHOG 05-08-2024 10:30 AM

I'm waiting on this man's riveting investigation into all this before I make up my mind.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.ZGcGYx...=0&o=5&pid=1.7

staylor26 05-08-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17513271)
I mean yea I'm sure all the other fan bases want him suspended all year, I mean they want us to lose it has nothing to do with anything else.

Yet another reason why zilla's logic is reeruned.

Mecca 05-08-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513269)
I don't think the chiefs should cut him. But they can give him a long hard road to earning his job and snaps back.

Kareem hunt was supposed to have everything taken away to teach him a lesson. There are a lot of rumblings that team owners were furious at Dorsey because there was a gentlemen's agreement that the chiefs were falling on the sword to protect the shield. For the same reason nobody touched ray rice even years later.

Because he was already a declining player with his best years in the review mirror.

TwistedChief 05-08-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513259)
The chiefs were willing to forgive tyreek for some really shocking behavior. To the point of trusting him the second time the accusations rolled around.

Forgive Tyreek? They did their due diligence on his initial situation and drafted him. They didn't have to "forgive" him. He didn't do the Chiefs any wrong when he was in college.

He then got into hot water again. I won't relitigate that (I personally think he broke his son's arm and it was totally covered up), but they similarly did their due diligence, no charges were filed, no suspension was levied, and he went on playing for the team.

Why do they need to go above and beyond whatever the NFL/legal authorities are going to levy?

GeorgeZimZam 05-08-2024 10:33 AM

If Rice were to have the neck tattoo modified from BADLANDZ to JAZZHANDZ, would that be enough to appease the presiding judge, Chiefs management, and the Kingdom? 🤔

😈Bad Rashee:
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😇Rashee Nice:
https://i.postimg.cc/3Rs3RDvD/temp-Image93s-PUI.avif

Marcellus 05-08-2024 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17513206)
I honestly don't know why anyone even engages with chiefzilla. He refuses to concede anything he's wrong about even when given explicit proof of it. You're essentially debating an obstinate brick wall.

Didn’t realize it until now but he may be a Donger mult.

FloridaMan88 05-08-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513269)
I don't think the chiefs should cut him. But they can give him a long hard road to earning his job and snaps back.

Kareem hunt was supposed to have everything taken away to teach him a lesson. There are a lot of rumblings that team owners were furious at Dorsey because there was a gentlemen's agreement that the chiefs were falling on the sword to protect the shield. For the same reason nobody touched ray rice even years later.

Ray Rice and Kareem Hunt were involved in violence against women and both were caught on video.

Not all crimes are the same in terms of severity.

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Warpaint69 05-08-2024 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17513283)
Ray Rice and Kareem Hunt were involved in violence against women and both were caught on video.

Not all crimes are the same in terms of severity.

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Kareem also lied about his situation and the video coming out sealed his fate with the Chiefs.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17513276)
Forgive Tyreek? They did their due diligence on his initial situation and drafted him. They didn't have to "forgive" him. He didn't do the Chiefs any wrong when he was in college.

He then got into hot water again. I won't relitigate that (I personally think he broke his son's arm and it was totally covered up), but they similarly did their due diligence, no charges were filed, no suspension was levied, and he went on playing for the team.

Why do they need to go above and beyond whatever the NFL/legal authorities are going to levy?

What were the chiefs going to do? Tell tyreek to stop being a parent even though he clearly loves his son? I don't know what happened but theres nothing to indicate that tyreek was defying team orders or not working hard on himself. The tyreek example is to show that they are more than willing to stick their neck out for guys who respect their authority. Andy may come off as a teddy bear but he has little tolerance for those who don't.

It's not like Kareem and rashee were minding their business and got physical.
They went to places they shouldn't despite I'm sure specific instructions not to go there. Kareem went to a drunk party resort and rashee was at the club at 2am. Even a first grader knows this is another level of stupidity to be there at all.

FloridaMan88 05-08-2024 10:47 AM

Where has it been reported/confirmed that Andy specifically told Rashee not to go out and instead “lay low”?

And there is a possibility that the photographer instigated this.

Let the details come out before rushing to judgment… JFC.

TwistedChief 05-08-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17513294)
They went to places they shouldn't despite I'm sure specific instructions not to go there.

The only thing I'm "sure" of is that you make a lot of completely baseless assumptions and it leads you off into a fog that colors your every opinion.

It truly is a waste of time responding to you.


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