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In58men 10-29-2024 08:09 AM

Do we really make another trade?

I thought our cap situation isn’t ideal right now…

Wallcrawler 10-29-2024 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17770895)
Do we really make another trade?

I thought our cap situation isn’t ideal right now…

You're totally right. Brett Veach has never shown any ability whatsoever to move money and players around in order to rapidly improve the football team.

wazu 10-29-2024 08:14 AM

Just checked and we're bottom 5 in cap space. The teams in worse shape than us?

Rams, Broncos, Giants, Panthers

LMAO

Wallcrawler 10-29-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17770610)
He’s completely cooked. Really really bad

Which type of cooked?

I have no athletic ability or awareness left cooked?

Or

Im Playing on a shitty team going nowhere and making business decisions cooked?

Wallcrawler 10-29-2024 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17770903)
Just checked and we're bottom 5 in cap space. The teams in worse shape than us?

Rams, Broncos, Giants, Panthers

LMAO

**** them picks aged well for the Rams. They should wear them during the draft.

chiefzilla1501 10-29-2024 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17770905)
Which type of cooked?

I have no athletic ability or awareness left cooked?

Or

Im Playing on a shitty team going nowhere and making business decisions cooked?

He’s a “playing off of multiple recent surgeries to where the Rams don’t even activate him while healthy” kind of cooked. He’s looked like he lost more than a step, at least from what I’ve seen. I’d love for this to be an option but he doesn’t seem better than the guys we have

chiefzilla1501 10-29-2024 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17770903)
Just checked and we're bottom 5 in cap space. The teams in worse shape than us?

Rams, Broncos, Giants, Panthers

LMAO

I always take this with a grain of salt. We haven’t done a whole lot to manipulate the cap by backloading a whole bunch of contracts. A looooootttttt of these teams also have massive escalators for qb contracts in future years whereas Mahomes’ contract is factored in. We have plenty of space if we want it. It’s just a matter of how much you want to backload

In58men 10-29-2024 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17770901)
You're totally right. Brett Veach has never shown any ability whatsoever to move money and players around in order to rapidly improve the football team.

He literally just did that with Taylor, I just don’t seem him being overly aggressive right now. I feel like we’re pretty solid moving forward.

Otter 10-29-2024 08:57 AM

Before Elon takes Veach into outer space and starts cloning a race of 3-D chess playing, x-men I say we enjoy this little dynasty we got goin' on.

Woogieman 10-29-2024 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17770846)
What would you give up for Armstead?

I can't see that happening. An aggressive county prosecutor might charge Grier with conspiracy to commit murder

tyreekthefreak 10-29-2024 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17770903)
Just checked and we're bottom 5 in cap space. The teams in worse shape than us?

Rams, Broncos, Giants, Panthers

LMAO

Isn't that the way to do it? Hate to think we were penny pinching during our quest for a threepeat!!!!

KCJake 10-29-2024 09:52 AM

I haven't looked at the depth chart but we've gotta be getting really thin at DB right??

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2024 01:18 PM

Kyle Long indicating that Chiefs are trying to trade for Cam Robinson. Left tackle for Jacksonville. https://x.com/ky1elong/status/1851331011088630014?s=46

He’s a free agent after this year so I wonder if this would mean a long term deal comes with the trade.

O.city 10-29-2024 01:21 PM

Is he any good?

Tribal Warfare 10-29-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17771599)
Kyle Long indicating that Chiefs are trying to trade for Cam Robinson. Left tackle for Jacksonville. https://x.com/ky1elong/status/1851331011088630014?s=46

He’s a free agent after this year so I wonder if this would mean a long term deal comes with the trade.

Unless he's elite Veach doesn't sign older players to high end market resetting longterm deals

PatMahomesIsGod 10-29-2024 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17771599)
Kyle Long indicating that Chiefs are trying to trade for Cam Robinson. Left tackle for Jacksonville. https://x.com/ky1elong/status/1851331011088630014?s=46

He’s a free agent after this year so I wonder if this would mean a long term deal comes with the trade.

PFF had him in the offseason as the 28th best tackle.

Not sure how that breaks down between LT and RT.

New World Order 10-29-2024 01:29 PM

Damn

Veach really wants that threepeat

OnTheWarpath15 10-29-2024 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17771599)
Kyle Long indicating that Chiefs are trying to trade for Cam Robinson. Left tackle for Jacksonville. https://x.com/ky1elong/status/1851331011088630014?s=46

He’s a free agent after this year so I wonder if this would mean a long term deal comes with the trade.

Not sure how that deal gets made unless Jacksonville eats a TON of cash.

He's still owed over $9M for the rest of the season.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2024 01:36 PM

It would be interesting. Now that I think about it maybe it would just turn out to be a rental.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2024 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17771612)
Is he any good?

I’m gonna say he’s probably firmly in the OBJ tier.

Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 01:37 PM

We'd probably have to send them our third to make it worth their while if they have to eat that much money.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2024 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17771666)
We'd probably have to send them our third to make it worth their while if they have to eat that much money.

That and I do think it probably turns out to be a rental. I just don’t know that they’d commit big money to a guy who hasn’t played there when they have a young developmental talent in Suamataia.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2024 01:39 PM

But I’ll be the first to say I’m completely fine giving up our 3rd for even just 14 or so games with Robinson. The LT spot is the only thing that might stop us as is.

philfree 10-29-2024 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17771666)
We'd probably have to send them our third to make it worth their while if they have to eat that much money.

Send them Morris and a 2026 pick.

OnTheWarpath15 10-29-2024 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17771661)
It would be interesting. Now that I think about it maybe it would just turn out to be a rental.

He's in the last year of his deal, so yes.

Red Dawg 10-29-2024 01:45 PM

I want the 3peat. Get him. Get everyone!

fadeaway 10-29-2024 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17771678)
He's in the last year of his deal, so yes.

Unless you extend him?

MIAdragon 10-29-2024 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17771630)
PFF had him in the offseason as the 28th best tackle.

Not sure how that breaks down between LT and RT.

Eh...

OnTheWarpath15 10-29-2024 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fadeaway (Post 17771684)
Unless you extend him?

I don't see Veach spending $20M AAV on a 30 year old tackle when they used a R2 pick to address the position last April.

O.city 10-29-2024 01:53 PM

Why would the player wanna do an extension now this close to the offseason?

Guys wanna get to FA.

493rd 10-29-2024 01:53 PM

We need CB more than LT imo. Losing Watson hurts big.

bigjosh 10-29-2024 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17771692)
I don't see Veach spending $20M AAV on a 30 year old tackle when they used a R2 pick to address the position last April.


Well he tried to spend more than that on a left tackle in FA a couple years ago


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Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17771692)
I don't see Veach spending $20M AAV on a 30 year old tackle when they used a R2 pick to address the position last April.

If he's willing to that says a lot about Suamataia.

OnTheWarpath15 10-29-2024 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17771700)
If he's willing to that says a lot about Suamataia.

Agree.

fadeaway 10-29-2024 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17771692)
I don't see Veach spending $20M AAV on a 30 year old tackle when they used a R2 pick to address the position last April.

I agree I’m just throwing it out there. I’m putting corner ahead of LT right now in terms of needs.

And FWIW

Morris: 6 penalties, 3 sacks in 371 snaps
Robinson: 3 penalties, 4 sacks in 367 snaps

BWillie 10-29-2024 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17771599)
Kyle Long indicating that Chiefs are trying to trade for Cam Robinson. Left tackle for Jacksonville. https://x.com/ky1elong/status/1851331011088630014?s=46

He’s a free agent after this year so I wonder if this would mean a long term deal comes with the trade.

Please. Do it Bart Preach. A rental is just fine.

RunKC 10-29-2024 02:01 PM

I would 100% give up a 2nd or the Titans 3rd for Cam Robinson if they feel they can fit him in.

I’ve been saying this time and time again. We can’t draft a good LT bc we don’t ****ing pick anywhere near close enough. It’s the 2nd hardest position on the goddamn team to fill.

If you think you can do get him money wise and he’s available you ****ing do it

smithandrew051 10-29-2024 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17771630)
PFF had him in the offseason as the 28th best tackle.

Not sure how that breaks down between LT and RT.

Here’s what PFF says:

Cam Robinson Pass Blocking Grade - 72.2
Wanya Morris Pass Blocking Grade - 54.8
Kingsley Pass Blocking Grade - 42.3

If you trust that (big big if), then it’s a no brainer.

I haven’t watched Trevor Lawrence all that close this year, but I’d assume Mahomes is better at avoiding sacks. Robinson’s sack number is probably a bit inflated.

Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 02:05 PM

Oof. He got ****ing DESTROYED by Buffalo. 2 sacks, 3 QB hits, and 3 pressures. 8 total.

RunKC 10-29-2024 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17771700)
If he's willing to that says a lot about Suamataia.

Don’t care. Kid wasn’t even a top 50 pick. He was pick 63 and if we didn’t pick him he would have fallen to the third rd.

We aren’t paying shit to any WR next year, Kelce is in his last season at best, Wanya can replace Trey effectively and Thuney can get his deal pushed to a new extension that would be low for his remaining years and a clean cut in the back half like Chris Jones deal.

We could absolutely make that work if needed

493rd 10-29-2024 02:09 PM

Greg Newsome

RunKC 10-29-2024 02:13 PM

Oh?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cam Robinson among OTs over the past two weeks:<br><br>�� 88.4 pass-blocking grade (3rd)<br>�� 69 pass-blocking snaps<br>�� 0 pressures allowed <a href="https://t.co/wZraH2en3D">pic.twitter.com/wZraH2en3D</a></p>&mdash; PFF JAX Jaguars (@PFF_Jaguars) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Jaguars/status/1844455643232567413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

fadeaway 10-29-2024 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17771747)
Greg Newsome

I said the same. But unsure how much you would have to give up

493rd 10-29-2024 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fadeaway (Post 17771760)
I said the same. But unsure how much you would have to give up

Skyy Moore and CEH…done deal!!!

Balto 10-29-2024 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17771756)
Oh?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cam Robinson among OTs over the past two weeks:<br><br>�� 88.4 pass-blocking grade (3rd)<br>�� 69 pass-blocking snaps<br>�� 0 pressures allowed <a href="https://t.co/wZraH2en3D">pic.twitter.com/wZraH2en3D</a></p>&mdash; PFF JAX Jaguars (@PFF_Jaguars) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Jaguars/status/1844455643232567413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Would have to restructure another contract.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2024 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17771785)
Would have to restructure another contract.

Na, they’d have Jax pay at least half.

chiefforlife 10-29-2024 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17771787)
Na, they’d have Jax pay at least half.

He and Taylor have played together so that would help.

This is interesting.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2024 02:33 PM

Welp, now Long seems to indicate he is just guessing. So much for that. https://x.com/ky1elong/status/1851347791508832520?s=46

Direckshun 10-29-2024 02:34 PM

Of course Kyle Long is just guessing.

Let me guess while we're at it: Tre'Davius White.

O.city 10-29-2024 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17771739)
Don’t care. Kid wasn’t even a top 50 pick. He was pick 63 and if we didn’t pick him he would have fallen to the third rd.

We aren’t paying shit to any WR next year, Kelce is in his last season at best, Wanya can replace Trey effectively and Thuney can get his deal pushed to a new extension that would be low for his remaining years and a clean cut in the back half like Chris Jones deal.

We could absolutely make that work if needed

Wanya can effectively replace Trey? Am I taking crazy pills?

BossChief 10-29-2024 02:36 PM

So we might end up with the jacksonvilles old bookend OTs?

Ok

siberian khatru 10-29-2024 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17771808)
Of course Kyle Long is just guessing.

Let me guess while we're at it: Tre'Davius White.

That would be ironic given the Mahomes connection.

DRM08 10-29-2024 02:42 PM

Mahomes has started looking a lot more comfortable the last few weeks. I think it’s a bad idea to start all over again with yet another guy at the LT spot. That would be 5 of them in just 3 seasons.

The defensive secondary looked vulnerable against the Raiders without Jaylen Watson. I would like Veach to acquire a good quality defensive back instead of LT right now.

RunKC 10-29-2024 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17771810)
Wanya can effectively replace Trey? Am I taking crazy pills?

Not sure why that’s a stretch? Wanya’s biggest weakness by far is defending the edge outside. He’s a perfect RG IMO

PatMahomesIsGod 10-29-2024 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17771828)
Not sure why that’s a stretch? Wanya’s biggest weakness by far is defending the edge outside. He’s a perfect RG IMO

And, spoiler alert, we’re not paying Smith $18-20M per.

TheGuardian 10-29-2024 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17771828)
Not sure why that’s a stretch? Wanya’s biggest weakness by far is defending the edge outside. He’s a perfect RG IMO

Yup. Def projects as a great guard but just NOT A LT.

Taylor is actually quite good so if we can just shore up LT everything else improves immensely.

In58men 10-29-2024 03:52 PM

I mean, he’d be hella cheap lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��Odell Beckham Jr. seemingly unhappy in Miami…<br><br>(Via <a href="https://twitter.com/Dolphin_Nation?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Dolphin_Nation</a>)<br> <a href="https://t.co/gcwzgvP5zd">https://t.co/gcwzgvP5zd</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1851381315372777914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bump 10-29-2024 04:01 PM

I think Odell might be done

Balto 10-29-2024 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17771945)
I mean, he’d be hella cheap lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��Odell Beckham Jr. seemingly unhappy in Miami…<br><br>(Via <a href="https://twitter.com/Dolphin_Nation?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Dolphin_Nation</a>)<br> <a href="https://t.co/gcwzgvP5zd">https://t.co/gcwzgvP5zd</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1851381315372777914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can Armstead come with him?

Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 05:12 PM

Cam Robinson just got dealt to the Vikings

In58men 10-29-2024 05:12 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a> are adding a new left tackle, completing a trade with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> to acquire LT Cam Robinson in exchange for draft pick compensation, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>.<br><br>An answer with Christian Darrisaw out for the season. <a href="https://t.co/VmlVXU6ufN">pic.twitter.com/VmlVXU6ufN</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1851400830177440195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 05:14 PM

At this point do you see if the Jaguars will take a ham sandwich for Kirk? At least he's under contract for multiple seasons.

Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 05:15 PM

Vikings only have a 1st and two 5ths in the 2025 draft before this trade.

Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 05:17 PM

Hell, if they're giving up on the whole regime see what they want for Etienne. He'd be an absolute menace in this offense.

In58men 10-29-2024 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17772026)
At this point do you see if the Jaguars will take a ham sandwich for Kirk? At least he's under contract for multiple seasons.

I’d entertain the idea.

2025

Rice
Hopkins
Kirk
Worthy

That’s a good core 4

Chiefsfan1 10-29-2024 06:17 PM

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ken-collarbone

Sassy Squatch 10-29-2024 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefsfan1 (Post 17772098)

Ah. Well, that sucks.

gordonelloyd 10-29-2024 06:46 PM

Too bad the Vikings beat us to the punch on Robinson. I think that would’ve been a really good solution for our LT woes. I wonder who else would be available for LT.

The CB problem will be less once we improve our past rush, and that should happen when Charles O returns and with that new guy we got just now from a New England.

UChieffyBugger 10-29-2024 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17772026)
At this point do you see if the Jaguars will take a ham sandwich for Kirk? At least he's under contract for multiple seasons.

What is the obsession with receivers? We traded for Hopkins already fgs :D

PatMahomesIsGod 10-30-2024 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17772031)
Hell, if they're giving up on the whole regime see what they want for Etienne. He'd be an absolute menace in this offense.

YPC has been trash since his rookie year.

Sassy Squatch 10-30-2024 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17772491)
YPC has been trash since his rookie year.

LMAO Over 1400 yards from scrimmage in both his full seasons played and 12 TDs in 2023. The injury that kept him out of his rookie season doesn't seem to have affected him at all.

O.city 10-30-2024 06:49 AM

I'd be interested, but I'd guess they're thinking they just need a few more weeks to get Pacheco back.

Sassy Squatch 10-30-2024 06:59 AM

I don't think it'll happen, and it really isn't all that necessary. We'll have a pretty complete RB room once Pacheco is back, especially now that Perine seems to have gotten his bearings in the offense a bit more.

493rd 10-30-2024 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17772153)
What is the obsession with receivers? We traded for Hopkins already fgs :D

Especially with ones who previously broke their collarbone. Chiefs are done addressing the WR position.

RunKC 10-30-2024 07:20 AM

Would really like some kind of corner added. A young kid with traits much like Ward when we got him.

We’ll probably bring back the recently cut Kelvin Joseph to the PS if we do anything

milkshock 10-30-2024 07:24 AM

100% need a corner

pugsnotdrugs19 10-30-2024 08:30 AM

I listened to that Denver radio guy from yesterday who said he was hearing Chiefs are about to trade for another defensive player. I mean, he spoke with conviction. Didn't sound excited about the fact, as it was part of a conversation re: Denver not buying so far at the deadline.

Fingers crossed he had a real source. These trades seemingly come out of nowhere, there's hardly any rumors about specifics until it actually happens.

ChiefsHawk 10-30-2024 09:00 AM

https://x.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1851635367427846541

pugsnotdrugs19 10-30-2024 09:05 AM

Yeah they gotta be cooking something up at CB. Just like WR when JuJu got hurt, now you got Johnson who has a concussion... we need a capable body.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-30-2024 09:06 AM

Greg Newsome would have me awfully horny.


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