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lcarus 03-07-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8425789)
i think they're not allowed to contact him until he's officially listed on the waiver wire.

even though he's not technically going to waivers in the traditional sense.
that's what I got from it anyway

If it was the traditional waiver wire, would that coin toss we won against Seattle be a really big deal now?

Titty Meat 03-07-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8425470)
Sam Mellinger | Chiefs must do everything to get Manning

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/07...#storylink=cpy

Stuff Peyton Manning full of Boulevard Pale Ale and a Z-Man sandwich. Show him pictures of Arrowhead Stadium on a crisp fall Sunday, play video of Jamaal Charles rushing through the line and Tony Moeaki’s catch against the 49ers last year and — put this one on loop — Dwayne Bowe’s circus grabs in Indianapolis.

Whatever it takes.

Scott Pioli has a hard job. Being general manager of the Chiefs means an endless string of decisions on a razor’s edge, the wrong answer bringing losses and criticism and ultimately bad news from the boss.

Which is why he should be ecstatic, skipping down the halls of the Chiefs’ offices and bear-hugging Romeo Crennel to celebrate the easiest decision of his professional career:

Pursue Manning with everything the franchise has.

Do this, and a disproportionate amount of the common criticism — cheap ownership, unwilling to make bold moves, too much commitment to Matt Cassel — goes away. Vanishes.

This makes too much sense for the Chiefs not to make signing one of five greatest quarterbacks of all time priority No. 1, 2 and 3 this offseason.

Pioli’s Chiefs have made do with a mediocre quarterback. Their vision has been clouded by Cassel’s limitations. With rules stacked in favor of passing, the Chiefs have built around running. In three years, it’s produced a one-and-done playoff appearance in one of the NFL’s weakest divisions.

This is their chance to fix all that, a gift from the football gods of circumstance.

The best part? Every indication is that Pioli and the Chiefs are absolutely doing this.

Crennel talks openly and specifically about Manning, almost certainly violated the NFL’s tampering rules in the process. Pioli talks openly and specifically about improving the quarterback position. Clark Hunt talks openly and specifically about the enormous gap between what the Chiefs currently spend and what they’ll be required to spend in 2013 not being an issue.

So the talking points from the three most powerful men in the organization all point toward signing Manning to what would almost certainly be the highest annual salary in franchise history.

Manning will be able to choose virtually any franchise he wants. He is in a great spot. One projection says he’d make the biggest impact in Arizona, adding four wins. The Dolphins could use him. Seattle, too. And Washington. The list goes on and on, so the Chiefs will have to make their case.

They’ll have to show Manning more than the money. His first question might be how the Chiefs plan on fixing their broken offensive line, because he always had one of the league’s best in Indy. The Chiefs will also have to accept a significant risk.

Manning hasn’t thrown a meaningful pass in more than a year. He had three neck surgeries in 19 months. Nobody can be certain when or even if he’ll fully recover. Bringing him in means overhauling the existing system for Manning’s.

Even forgetting the neck, Manning turns 36 this month. Only five starting quarterbacks at that age have ever had higher passing ratings than Cassel’s 93.0 mark in 2010. Only three — Johnny Unitas, Jim Plunkett and John Elway — have won a Super Bowl after their 36th birthday.

It’s just that the Chiefs are terrifically positioned to absorb the risk and accentuate the potential reward.

The last five years or so of frugal spending mean they can make the money work. The franchise tag on Bowe, Moeaki’s presumed healing and Jon Baldwin’s presumed development mean Manning would have one of the league’s best group of receivers. Charles’ presumed healing means he’d have one of the best running backs.

As for the offensive line, the right moves can fix that this offseason. Besides, Manning would make the line instantly and significantly better.

And if it turns out that Manning can’t play, or is only a vague representation of his former self, then Cassel becomes a workable insurance policy.

The Chiefs are in a unique spot where the rewards of signing Manning mean more, and the risks mean less.

Pioli will have missed a franchise-altering opportunity if he doesn’t pursue this. NFL decisions never come this easy.

To reach Sam Mellinger, call 816-234-4365, send email to [email protected] or follow twitter.com/mellinger. For previous columns, go to KansasCity.com.


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/07...#storylink=cpy

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Micjones 03-07-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8425801)
If it was the traditional waiver wire, would that coin toss we won against Seattle be a really big deal now?

Nope.
Miami would still be ahead of the Chiefs in the waiver wire order.

Dayze 03-07-2012 03:31 PM

is the waiver wire order the same as draft order? I think it would be, but have no idea.
if so, ....then yeah. that would suck for Seattle.

Setsuna 03-07-2012 03:31 PM

Schefter doesn't know shit. Manning's agent and Manning are 2 different things. His agent can be contacted by anyone. Once he's on waivers, his agent will tell him what has been offered. Common sense doesn't follow Schefter.

In58men 03-07-2012 03:32 PM

Will Manning pull a LeBron James and take his talents to south beach

Dayze 03-07-2012 03:32 PM

:banghead:
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8425808)
Nope.
Miami would still be ahead of the Chiefs in the waiver wire order.

well, there's that too.

Titty Meat 03-07-2012 03:34 PM

"Nnamdi to the Jets"

58kcfan89 03-07-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8425652)
what does Nick Athan have to say about all this?

He was actually on a Wichita radio station this morning yapping about how the Chiefs were the best place for Manning after outlining the downsides of the rest of the teams in the race (Washington has to play Eli twice, the Bidwells are crap, Miami got outbid for Fisher, etc.).

He said KC was very interested and that Manning should have a team picked by the end of the weekend.

Anyway, according to Athan, if we sign Manning, we're then going to trade a couple picks to move up to 3 to take Kalil. We'll sign Carl Nicks (who is apparently our #1 target) and move Albert to RT, giving Kalil (who's the next Willie Roaf) the LT spot.



...and no, I didn't make any of that up.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-07-2012 03:36 PM

ROFL
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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 8425824)
He was actually on a Wichita radio station this morning yapping about how the Chiefs were the best place for Manning after outlining the downsides of the rest of the teams in the race (Washington has to play Eli twice, the Bidwells are crap, Miami got outbid for Fisher, etc.).

He said KC was very interested and that Manning should have a team picked by the end of the weekend.

Anyway, according to Athan, if we sign Manning, we're then going to trade a couple picks to move up to 3 to take Kalil. We'll sign Carl Nicks (who is apparently our #1 target) and move Albert to RT, giving Kalil (who's the next Willie Roaf) the LT spot.



...and no, I didn't make any of that up.


Chiefnj2 03-07-2012 03:40 PM

Didn't Manning say in his press conference today that he still has work to do with his arm?

This isn't going to resolve itself any time soon.

zonachief 03-07-2012 03:40 PM

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Let the games begin -- The Seahawks are already in the process of reaching out to ex-Colts QB Peyton Manning.

Maybe manning despises those neon green unis like everyone else?

dirk digler 03-07-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 8425824)
He was actually on a Wichita radio station this morning yapping about how the Chiefs were the best place for Manning after outlining the downsides of the rest of the teams in the race (Washington has to play Eli twice, the Bidwells are crap, Miami got outbid for Fisher, etc.).

He said KC was very interested and that Manning should have a team picked by the end of the weekend.

Anyway, according to Athan, if we sign Manning, we're then going to trade a couple picks to move up to 3 to take Kalil. We'll sign Carl Nicks (who is apparently our #1 target) and move Albert to RT, giving Kalil (who's the next Willie Roaf) the LT spot.



...and no, I didn't make any of that up.

:facepalm:

LMAO

loochy 03-07-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 8425824)
...and no, I didn't make any of that up.

You didn't, but Athan did.

lcarus 03-07-2012 03:40 PM

Boy I uh...don't know how to say this, but uh...you guys are gonna be so disappointed.

Peyton Manning is dead.

They found his skull among some remains in Indianapolis.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/skull_peru.jpg


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