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Chargem 09-29-2024 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17711637)
The Falcons got dominated in TOP and then had to pass constantly to catch up.

So that would explain that.

Ravens 28 passes 20 rushes
Bengals 25 passes 32 rushes
Falcons 29 passes 25 rushes

It will be nothing to do with TOP or pass rate, it will be personnel. Falcons must have played a lot more 11 and the Chiefs matched with a sub package, rather than playing base.

ChiefsFanatic 09-29-2024 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17703012)
I know that people like to disregard RAS, and I fully agree that it does not guarantee a good football player to have a high score, but I DO think it tells you about someone's raw athletic ability. That, combined with football intelligence and a desire to be great are pretty good indicators.

Chenal, at 9.99 is a physical freak. And every week, he shows football intelligence and a desire to be great.

I love the kid.

I think Spags said he is pound for pound the strongest player on the defense.

I can't wait to see how good he becomes.

Side note: I almost feel like the defense would be better if you swapped Gay and Bolton. Bolton is a tackling machine, but he cannot cover, is slow, and maybe needs other players to succeed to make a splash play like running down a QB. Gay wasn't the brain that Bolton is, but he was definitely faster and more athletic.

Sassy Squatch 09-29-2024 03:52 AM

Leo Chenal doesn't believe in God. God believes in Leo Chenal.

PatMahomesIsGod 10-17-2024 03:34 PM

Nice article on him on Athletic today.

Summary is he’s one of 5 hybrid LBs in the league, including Gay. Best of the group by a wide margin.

Shields68 10-17-2024 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17711689)
I think Spags said he is pound for pound the strongest player on the defense.

I can't wait to see how good he becomes.

Side note: I almost feel like the defense would be better if you swapped Gay and Bolton. Bolton is a tackling machine, but he cannot cover, is slow, and maybe needs other players to succeed to make a splash play like running down a QB. Gay wasn't the brain that Bolton is, but he was definitely faster and more athletic.

Seems like the last time Bolton was out for a period of time we struggled to stop the run. Maybe not as atheletic but he is smart and has a nose for the football.

ChiefsFanatic 10-20-2024 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17749593)
Seems like the last time Bolton was out for a period of time we struggled to stop the run. Maybe not as atheletic but he is smart and has a nose for the football.

You think Bolton is more athletic than Chenal?

What games do you watch?

I am going to say something very unpopular (maybe): Nick Bolton needs everyone else to win to make an impact on a play or a game.

I don't know how many people consistently watch the All-22, but Bolton is not a play maker that flies around making plays. He collects tackles like crazy but it's rarely because he made a play himself, but almost always, when he makes a play, it's because someone else won a one-on-one battle, or the defensive line wrecked the offense, etc.

He cannot cover a TE, even a little. He is a very good player, but I hope we don't give him a huge contract. He is probably going to be one of those guys that leaves for more money, and in two or three years whatever team he goes to will try to trade him (back to the Chiefs maybe) or cut him because of his salary.

ChiefsFanatic 10-20-2024 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17749593)
Seems like the last time Bolton was out for a period of time we struggled to stop the run. Maybe not as atheletic but he is smart and has a nose for the football.

He is definitely smart, and talented. I am not saying anything different, but he is limited athletically, and isn't very fast. When others win, he is outstanding. I am just saying he doesn't really make plays on his own.

Ray Lewis would eat when his defensive line was cooking, but, the difference is he could also dominate a game with a group of backup defensive linemen. Hell, even FW from the Niners isn't Ray Lewis, but, he is more athletic and makes plays in space that Bolton can't make.

I love Bolton, even as a Jayhawk, but I just don't want to pay him like a premium LB because he isn't really a premium LB, he's just the LB we currently have. If he had any sort of ability in coverage, I would feel slightly different, but he can't even cover slow ass blocking TEs.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-20-2024 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17751839)
He is definitely smart, and talented. I am not saying anything different, but he is limited athletically, and isn't very fast. When others win, he is outstanding. I am just saying he doesn't really make plays on his own.

Ray Lewis would eat when his defensive line was cooking, but, the difference is he could also dominate a game with a group of backup defensive linemen. Hell, even FW from the Niners isn't Ray Lewis, but, he is more athletic and makes plays in space that Bolton can't make.

I love Bolton, even as a Jayhawk, but I just don't want to pay him like a premium LB because he isn't really a premium LB, he's just the LB we currently have. If he had any sort of ability in coverage, I would feel slightly different, but he can't even cover slow ass blocking TEs.

They double teaming me coach

BWillie 10-20-2024 10:57 AM

PFF GRADES
Willie "Fucts up vacuums" Gay 48.2
Drue "I have a hot sister" Tranquil 50.2
Leo "People assume I'm a bad athlete" Chenal 78.7
Nick "I dont hate him even though he went to MU" Bolton 73.1

Pasta Little Brioni 10-20-2024 11:38 AM

Gay looks awful in Orleans

Rainbarrel 11-10-2024 04:11 PM

Football guy

ThaVirus 11-10-2024 04:12 PM

Someone said he’s, pound-for-pound, the strongest guy on the team and I’m starting to believe it.

BWillie 11-10-2024 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17798139)
Someone said he’s, pound-for-pound, the strongest guy on the team and I’m starting to believe it.

Maybe the fastest, too. Pound for pound. 250 lbs.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2024 04:14 PM

Not only did he leap three football fields to block the kick, but if you watch the snap he put the LG on his ASS.

Bump 11-10-2024 05:24 PM

I love this guy


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