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cabletech94 04-28-2012 12:28 PM

here we go.

The Franchise 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Can we draft someone I've heard of now?

Molitoth 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Pick got in quick

KCUnited 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8577824)
And the NFLN goes to commercial

Flip over to ESPN for Polian's gold grill.

Bewbies 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

We wouldn't have taken that TE, we don't wait for TE's to fall to us.

cabletech94 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

commercial

Urc Burry 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8577825)
What did they say that would tip other teams off? Some of our needs for depth are obvious ones.

It's been going around for a while we loved Brandon Taylor.. Brought him in for a private workout. Then La Canfora says we love Michael Floyd and the Bowe rumors fly around and we get jumped in the second for the top receiver available

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 8577829)
Flip over to ESPN for Polian's gold grill.

I'm there but they are going to commercial too

Papi 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Got a S

tk13 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

There's your safety.

Dante84 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Safety!

cabletech94 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

safety!

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

chiefs take a safety!

menzie from bama

Tytanium 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Dequan Menzie S Bama

MIAdragon 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

Menzie, De'Quan

rico 04-28-2012 12:29 PM

WHAT?!?!?! OVER ALLEN AND ILOKA?! THIS IS MIND BOGGLING?!

jd1020 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

Well.. We got a S but who the ****...

Molitoth 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

At least he came from a good school??????

Bewbies 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

Ok, learn me about Menzie...

The Franchise 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

ESPN has him listed as a CB.

Direckshun 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

I hate hate hate this pick.

I really do not like Menzie at all.

But I go waaay against the grain on that. He will be a fairly popular pick.

But I am not a fan.

HemiEd 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

Theres the safety

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

I can live with that.

DeQuan Menzie, Alabama

Looks like they're moving him to safety.

Hoover 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

We probably watched a shit ton of tape on him since we looked at Barron

MIAdragon 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

STRENGTHS Menzie is a very instinctual corner who relies on his ability to anticipate the throw and break on the ball to disrupt passes. He is a strong player when working in tight space and can use his agility and foot quickness to stay on a receiver's hip. He is a strong player in zone and understands when to take chances and jump routes. He scans the entire field and helps when needed in these schemes. He never shies away from contact and is a productive tackler working from the outside-in.

WEAKNESSES Menzie is a solid all-around prospect who has fluid hips and athletic ability, which he relies on too heavily at times. He takes chances in man coverage that could hurt him at the next level.

Molitoth 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8577845)
Ok, learn me about Menzie...

Barron took the spotlight

chiefs1111 04-28-2012 12:30 PM

well there ya go a safety

TimeForWasp 04-28-2012 12:31 PM

There, a safety.

Direckshun 04-28-2012 12:31 PM

He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

MIAdragon 04-28-2012 12:31 PM

Menzie has some hitches in his athletic ability that will make for a tough transition to the NFL. He is consistently around the ball, however, and making splash plays for the decorated Crimson Tide defense. He is the type of player whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts in terms of the type of player he will be on Sundays. He is a playmaker and savvy cover man who has second-round value.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

reports list him as a CB

Quote:

Positives: A versatile and flexible athlete with good foot quickness. Started 20 games the last two years, lining up inside and outside. Tough and scrappy with the forceful nature to be physical at all levels of the field. Has good bulk on his frame to be aggressive in run support. Strong hands to make plays on the ball, effective blitzer who shows well-coached technique and awareness. Negatives: Has below-average measureables for the position and lacks ideal length. Has only average long speed and lacks the natural change-of-direction skills and vertical ability to play blanket man coverage. Lacks natural explosion to make up for false steps. Struggles to break down in space and can be a liability against the run at the ...

Dylan 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

Can't believe the Saints put out a bounty on Cam -- How sad!

The Giants signed Saints DT Shaun Rogers for depth two days ago.

I'm hoping that Rogers wasn't involved in all that bounty mess.

chiefs1111 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

Tank Carder to Bills

Quesadilla Joe 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

#Chiefs grab my top Slot CB, DeQuan Menzie. Love his physical play on the inside. Good short-area foot quickness. Avg. speed.

https://twitter.com/#!/nfldraftscout...05685330403328

Titty Meat 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

Meh

Strongside 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

If his biggest weakness is that he takes chances in man coverage...I like the pick.

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 8577851)
STRENGTHS Menzie is a very instinctual corner who relies on his ability to anticipate the throw and break on the ball to disrupt passes. He is a strong player when working in tight space and can use his agility and foot quickness to stay on a receiver's hip. He is a strong player in zone and understands when to take chances and jump routes. He scans the entire field and helps when needed in these schemes. He never shies away from contact and is a productive tackler working from the outside-in.

WEAKNESSES Menzie is a solid all-around prospect who has fluid hips and athletic ability, which he relies on too heavily at times. He takes chances in man coverage that could hurt him at the next level.

Color me intrigued

Reaper16 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

I guess the Chiefs are converting Menzie to saftey? Huh.

Hammock Parties 04-28-2012 12:33 PM

Sabby, GTFO

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8577857)
He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

He improved his 40 time to the 4.5's at pro day.

He played CB at Bama but will play safety here. Actually a really good fit, IMO, since we utilize 3 safeties and he can play both man & zone and has good cover skills.

ChiefsCountry 04-28-2012 12:33 PM

Damn good pick by the Chiefs. Menzie played corner but projects as a safety in the NFL. We play 3 safeties alot and one is normally a coverage guy. Here you go.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2012 12:33 PM

My God, I miss one season and the whole thing goes tits-up. Shame on me.

-ROR :D

Lightrise 04-28-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8577490)
Kellen Moore is sitting around with nothing to do....

I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.

milkman 04-28-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8577857)
He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

As a safety, he sounds like he could be a poor man's Brandon Taylor.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 8577858)
Menzie has some hitches in his athletic ability that will make for a tough transition to the NFL. He is consistently around the ball, however, and making splash plays for the decorated Crimson Tide defense. He is the type of player whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts in terms of the type of player he will be on Sundays. He is a playmaker and savvy cover man who has second-round value.

sounds a lot like lewis

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8577871)
McGraw, GTFO

FYP

:D

Rams Fan 04-28-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worthless n00b (Post 8577874)
My God, I miss one season and the whole thing goes tits-up. Shame on me.

-ROR :D

Holy shit.

IT'S ROR!

SANCHIZE 2012

Bewbies 04-28-2012 12:34 PM

I like taking defensive players from Bama. He will be very well coached coming in.

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:34 PM

Chiefs passed on a chance to get another Greenwood on the team (Lions' pick)

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8577872)
He improved his 40 time to the 4.5's at pro day.

He played CB at Bama but will play safety here. Actually a really good fit, IMO, since we utilize 3 safeties and he can play both man & zone and has good cover skills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8577873)
Damn good pick by the Chiefs. Menzie played corner but projects as a safety in the NFL. We play 3 safeties alot and one is normally a coverage guy. Here you go.

:thumb:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightrise (Post 8577875)
I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.


TrolLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

Direckshun 04-28-2012 12:35 PM

QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Dexter McCluster
Shaun Draughn

FB
Shane Bannon

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Steve Breaston
Jonathan Baldwin
Devon Wylie
Terrance Copper
Jeremy Horne
Zeke Markshausen
Jamar Newsome

TE
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri
Kevin O'Connell

OT
Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims

OG
Jon Asamoah
Ryan Lilja
Jeff Allen

C
Rodney Hudson
Darryl Harris
Rob Bruggeman

NT
Dontari Poe
Amon Gordon
Jerrell Powe
Anthony Toribio

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Allen Bailey
Brandon Bair
Luke Patterson

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Cameron Sheffield
Andy Studebaker
Gabe Miller

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood
Caleb Campbell

CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt
Javier Arenas
Travis Daniels
Jalil Brown
Jacques Reeves

S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
DaQuan Menzie
Kyle McCarthy
Donald Washington
Mikail Baker

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

David. 04-28-2012 12:35 PM

per walterfootball

Quote:

A- Grade
DeQuan Menzie can play both cornerback and safety. Coincidentally, the Chiefs needed depth in both areas, especially the latter, since Romeo Crennel loves having three safeties on the field. Menzie was ranked No. 80 on Mike Mayock's big board, so he provides really good value in Round 5.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:36 PM

well, we addressed needs down the line in this draft...


nothing sexy, don't know what to think about most picks...roll the dice

pray for poe

i'm out

JohnnyHammersticks 04-28-2012 12:36 PM

Menzie #80 on Mayock's big board. Will be able to backup CB and S and play ST. Good value in the 5th round.

DTLB58 04-28-2012 12:36 PM

Notes:

Was a prep standout in Georgia before attending Copiah-Lincoln Community College (Miss.) for two years, where he recorded 40 tackles and six interceptions in 2008 and 51 tackles and one interception in ’09 as a two-year starter. At Alabama, suffered a torn Achilles in April ’10 but returned to start the season opener against San Jose State. Played in 12 games (six starts), in ’10, recording 33 tackles, four pass breakups and zero interceptions with five tackles for loss and two sacks. Made two starts at RCB spot and four as a nickel back. Started all 13 games for the national champions in ’11 and totaled 41-11-1 with four tackles for loss, 1 1⁄2 sacks. Returned his lone interception 25 yards for a TD against Arkansas. Suffered a left shoulder injury at the Senior Bowl and did not run at the Combine because of a strained right hamstring.
Positives:

Good size. Reads and reacts quickly. Very physical — willing tackler who tries to square and wrap up ballcarriers. Aware in zone — plays with his eyes and passes off receivers. Good ball reactions. Is versatile and has experience playing the slot. Is well-respected and possesses terrific character. Dependable producer.
Negatives:

Has short arms and small hands. Marginal speed and twitch for the cornerback position. Limited in man coverage — loses ground at the break point and struggles to shadow more athletic receivers. Has a 33-inch vertical jump.
Summary:

Tough, competitive college cornerback who projects better to safety, where his physicality plays better. Might not have the juice to start, but could be a solid backup for a zone team and become a fourth safety and special-teams producer. Has make-it qualities and will find a way to contribute. Scouts have compared him to a poor man’s version of Houston Texans starting SS Glover Quin.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8577888)
Holy shit.

IT'S ROR!

SANCHIZE 2012

WE CAN DOOOO IT!

Seriously, the whole NFL has gone ****ing loopy in my absense.

the Talking Can 04-28-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8577889)
I like taking defensive players from Bama. He will be very well coached coming in.

i agree, and familiar with our schemes

Pasta Little Brioni 04-28-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8577884)
FYP

:D

McGraw > Soggy Pistachio

Rams Fan 04-28-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worthless n00b (Post 8577904)
WE CAN DOOOO IT!

Seriously, the whole NFL has gone ****ing loopy in my absense.

Where the **** did you go?

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:38 PM

Menzie highlights on ESPN looked good

BigMeatballDave 04-28-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightrise (Post 8577875)
I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.

Weeden @ 11? LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8577910)
Where the **** did you go?

Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

tk13 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

That guy the Titans jumped over us to take is a DE who sounds like he might play TE in the NFL.

BigMeatballDave 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8577910)
Where the **** did you go?

Riding Mecca's coattails... :)

ChiefsCountry 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

Finally Pioli goes SEC on a pick in this draft. We need about 2 more for him to be right on average.

Rams Fan 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worthless n00b (Post 8577918)
Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

That sucks.

Hopefully you won't disappear again.:thumb:

Setsuna 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

That is your best pick of the draft.

Titty Meat 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worthless n00b (Post 8577918)
Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

You were blowing goats for a living?

Good to have you back.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8577929)
That sucks.

Hopefully you won't disappear again.:thumb:

Thank you Sir!

Hammock Parties 04-28-2012 12:42 PM

I just exchanged some emails with ROR. He didn't even know Haley got canned.

Hammock Parties 04-28-2012 12:42 PM

How was jail, ROR?

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:43 PM

I wonder if NFLN knows that there are other divisions besides the NFC East?

jd1020 04-28-2012 12:44 PM

So Audie Cole in the 6th?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8577932)
You were blowing goats for a living?

Good to have you back.

Thanks, Brah. I appearantly missed a lot in my time away.

Crennel? Really? Really?

I mean, **** me...really?

Setsuna 04-28-2012 12:45 PM

The NFC can go eat a dick.

saphojunkie 04-28-2012 12:45 PM

Anybody else thinking Vontaze in the 6th FTW?

I don't care how crazy he is, that is legit first round talent in the 6th round. I'm actively hoping for it.

Oh, and everyone better be getting ready to root for Quinn. Cuz the QB dream of this year is ****ing dead.

Hammock Parties 04-28-2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worthless n00b (Post 8577946)
Thanks, Brah. I appearantly missed a lot in my time away.

Crennel? Really? Really?

I mean, **** me...really?

He's only 65 bro.

Direckshun 04-28-2012 12:46 PM

Burfict is a UDFA talent.

Pass.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8577937)
How was jail, ROR?

So you're "Satanic Goat" now? LMAO

Jail was short and sweet. The path leading to it was long and full of misadventures.

Frosty 04-28-2012 12:47 PM

Burfict's problem isn't that he's crazy; it's that he's stupid.


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