Geno has taken 9 sacks thus far.

Alex?

10

LMAO

Geno has been sacked 9 times, Alex 10.

Want to try again?

Another advantage of Geno over Alex...

Geno is on a 5 year cheap contract.

Never compared them.

Boss asked if with geno we'd be 3-0. I said with his propensity to turn it over and taking sacks, I didn't think we would be.

I think we are 3-0 and actually blowing bitches out instead of eeking out wins while creating a massive amount of turnovers.

Geno: 4yrs 5 million
Alex: 2yrs 17-20 million (depending on incentives)

You are an idiot. The jets have the #5 D.

a 61 rating and 1/2 TD INT ratio does not win games.

Not to mention a chunk of those INTs were thrown in the red zone.

So, some people on here think, that if we would've taken Geno or any other QB at 1.1. Then thrown him to the wolves(make him be the starter) from the start, that we would make to the playoffs and also to the SB his rookie year?...Delusional and stupid.

Also, do people really think we could go to the playoffs and to SB with a new FO after going 2-14 the previous year. Yes, some teams have done it in recent years, But then they have gone back to their losing ways...Delusional and stupid.

Yes, I want a SB too, but not 1 every 10 years...I want a Dynasty and to get that, you have to build, I think we're heading in that direction, no not with Alex, but with ??? and I don't think Geno could do this either.

Hell, after what I have seen the last 5 yrs...I'll be happy going .500

Better weapons and offensive system in KC. Avery, Bowe, and JC blow shit up with Geno stretching the field. Dude goes for the jugular and doesn't patty cake it around like Alice.

That's exactly the problem. Picking up someone elses leftovers at qb isn't part of rebuilding, it is purely a solution to get butts in the seats and get to 8-8 as quickly as possible. If Alex Smith isn't the future, (which by the way he is, we paid way to much for him to be here for just a year) then we aren't going to make any progress as a team. Sure, we have a young qb in Bray, but lucking our way into an UDFA isn't exactly what I'd call a grand plan for success at the most important position in sports. You need to constantly be searching for a qb if you don't have one. Not settling for mediocre and hoping next year Peypey in his prime is coming out and nobody else wants him at pick 16

I enjoy it out in the real world, but CP is for critical thinking, pissing and moaning.

Is what it is.:harumph:

The Jets and Chiefs run different style offenses, too.

Geno might be playing even better, with fewer turnovers, under Andy Reid.

Also, our OL would be better, because we wouldn't have Eric ****ing Fisher.

We both run WCO

Marty Morningwig used to be Andys OC

Geno has thrown it downfield more and better, but he's struggled with placement in the short and intermediate routes iirc, which is where his picks have come from.

Which is curious as that's actually the opposite of what he was in college

Dude has hit defenders right between numbers on damn near all of his picks. That has nothing to do with the talent around him. Hes a rookie and hes gonna make mistakes...and he has made plenty of them. Its silly to think he would be blowing out anyone at this point. As a matter of fact there is more actual proof that would indicate there is a better chance that he would have cost the team a game with a costly turnover. He has played horribly under pressure so far, and our O-line has been the weak link up to this point.
Geno was the 1st rookie QB to throw 3 4th qtr picks since 91 in week two. There is no way we are 3-0 if he does that in any of our games.

Those are coachable. I think Andy would have had him more prepared than Rex/Marty so he would have made fewer mistakes. I'll say I'd be much more apt to buy a ticket to see Geno than Alice anyday. Geno just makes throws Alice would never dream of trying. In time I think he will be a top 10 guy.

And he MIGHT and more than likely WOULD be, understandably, making rookie mistakes and costing the team.

You can't coach Unleashing The Dragon. You either have it or you don't.

If's and buts and candy and nuts and...


























Unleash that Mother****ing Dragon!:evil:

So let me get this straight:

He'd be making rookie mistakes in KC that would cost the team.

Meanwhile, he's making rookie mistakes now while surrounded by hot garbage on offense and a lessor defense than ours - yet he's not costing the team.

They're 2-1.

They've already won half as many games as most people expected them to.

I swear, y'all really should think things through before you post them.

And considering our awesome defense, this obsession with not turning the ball over seems overblown in light of having a young, chocolate peen that can....



wait for it....


















Unleash THAT MOTHER****ING DRAGON! W00T!

You may very well turn out to be right. He can make every throw, and has all the talent in the world, but all of the actual evidence, his rating, int pace (4 more than the record), and worst of all red zone INTs lean in the opposite direction.

Again, the guy is a rookie. He is gonna make mistakes. He will have every opportunity to prove the naysayers wrong, and has the talent to do so, but everything that has actually happened, and not (Well I think under Reid he would...) doesnt support the argument that he would be winning games here. Much less blowing people out.

my quotation button is broke BTW.

Again?

LMAO

He's winning games in NY with no talent around him, but he'd suck if he were here?

Dude, he threw 3 4th quarter picks. You dont think that hurts the team??
What world are you living in?...fkn delusional.

He also threw picks that hurt the team VS Tampa but got the W because of a penalty.

And BTW Santonio Holmes is better than Avery, who has been our top weapon. Their line has played better, and their D is FAR from hot garbage

Mind numbling, it is.

How is it hurting the team when they are 2-1?

And I didn't say their defense was hot garbage, but their offense is.

Santonio Holmes is a shell of his former self, and has been worthless until Sunday. He's the only thing they have on offense you could even begin to call decent. You're comparing their WR1 to our WR2.

To think he wouldn't be winning games here with a better defense and more talent on offense is comical - he's doing it with way less in NY.

I didnt say that. I was responding to a post that said he would be blowing teams out.

And in what league is a 1/2 TD INT ratio and a 61 rating good?

I am honestly being trying to be unbiased AT THIS TIME. A lot of times Im just giving Geno baters shit, but pretending like we would be 3-0 and blowing teams out when the guy has turned the ball over as many times as he has with the game on the line is down right LAUGHABLE.

He is a damn rookie thats started 3 games.

All you want to see from a rookie is him flash the ability to play at a very high level and for him to be coachable.

Especially with a coach like Andy Reid.

Eric

Fisher

THEY LOST THE GAME.

He threw 3 4th qtr picks, and you just insinuated that it didnt hurt the team.

Yeah, Im either arguing with someone with 47 chromosomes or someone who is completely and utterly blinded by biased and the need to be right about this guy.

Im wasting my time, and this conversation is over.

Yet said coach didn't want him. That's what I dont understand and what makes me think those "out of proportion" reports about how he was in meetings were a little truer than we thought.

Unleash Your Dragon!

Your exact words:

And you're moving the goalposts.

I've been told all day that stats don't matter - only wins matter.

Well, with all these so-called crucial, game on the line mistakes, the Jets are 2-1. Without the benefit of having any talent on offense.

Again, if he's 2-1 with nothing around him on offense, why is it crazy to think he'd be at least 2-1 if not 3-0 with Charles, Bowe and Avery at his disposal?

And a defense that has allowed 11 points a game?

Christ, you could put damn near any starting QB in the league in that spot and they'd be at least 2-1 if not 3-0.

The defense and kicking game alone is scoring 10 points a game for us.

I completely agree with him being a rookie and making rookie mistakes and said so, and thats actually part of the reason why I said we wouldnt be 3-0 if he played like he did in week two in any of our games. Much less blowing people out.

He was under 50% passing fort what 140 yards or something? threw 3 picks in the 4th. 2 of them not under duress, and right into the defenders bread basket and according to OTWP that didnt hurt the team. Lunacy.

He lost ONE ****ing game. Holy Christ.

You're acting as if he's costing his team every week, when he's clearly not.

Again, your words - "he wouldn't be winning GAMESSSSSSS here"

Games. ****ing plural. As in "more than one."

He's doing it now. He'd certainly do it here with way more help.

Is it against the rules to bring up the fact that the jets haven't really plate a murders row of teams either? I mean, couldn't you say that the jets defense is keeping them in games?

Their offense has scored 18,10, and 27.

They scored 27? Wow.

I wish we could score 27 someday.

Actually, you said:

Apparently, a 61 rating and a 1:2 ratio DOES win games, because they are 2-1.

FWIW, KC has the 2nd ranked defense.

It was later when you backtracked and cherry picked Week 2 specifically, yet continued to argue the point that they are winning games.

They made their minds up on trading for Alex Smith well before the draft process. It was reported that we had a deal in place for Alex 2 days before the scouting combine.

There is no way they did their homework on Geno by then.

Once you give up that much to get "your quarterback" it's hard to justify coming back and spending a first on another one. Eric Fisher/Luke Joeckel were obviously in their plan there. Even Eric Winston commented on that being the plan after his release.

I think that if Alex weren't available, they may have taken Geno with one of their first two picks.

You really want to go down this road?

What exactly is our defense doing?

Our defense and kicker are responsible for 40% of our scoring, FFS.

If he's good enough, why can't you justify it?

I never said it wasn't.

But if you're gonna hold it against our offense for doing the same thing theirs is, yet praise theirs, that doesn't seem quite fair.

Jets Defense
27th best starting position.

Chiefs Defense
The Best starting position.

Jets Defense
The Best yards allowed per drive.

6th Best points allowed per drive.

Chiefs Defense
3rd Best points allowed per drive.


Geno's got a Defense doin' work.
A run game on the ground for 100 or + the past 2 weeks.
An O-Line that is keeping the rush off him.

Andrew Luck would of loved even 2 out of the 3 last year.

Because Alex Smith is to Andy Reid as Cassel is to Pioli.

Just with a shorter leash.

Im not moving shit.

Turnovers MATTER

You know DAMN well they should not have beaten Tampa....the worst team in the league, who just benched their QB 3 game in.

Geno is, again, the first rookie QB to throw 3 4th qtr picks since 91.

And please show me ONE..ONE! QB who has ever won more than he has lost no matter the surrounding cast with a 1/2 TD INT ratio

The jets also have the #5 defense so you can just let that whole argument of the entire team being garbage go.

And to clear this up, my whole argument is that Geno would not be 3-0 and blowing people out if he played anything like he has so far.

If I lead to you believe that I thought Geno would be 0-16 with us, which you seem to think I meant when I said he would not be winning games..forgive me.

This is all I need to read to know that your opinion is worth its weight in fecal matter.
They beat the worst team in the league because of a penalty. Regardless of whether they did or not though, your statement speaks volumes.

We scored 28 against Jacksonville and 26 against Philly.

Defense scored a td in each game.

Two words... Justin Rogers 254 yards of Geno's totals came against a scrub.

Alex Smith wishes he could pick on a scrub for 254 yards.

That took all of 5 seconds. Your Geno pager must have went off.

I'm not.

I'm calling out those who are doing it.

And there are plenty - have been for years.

I was unaware that defensive points don't count the same as offensive points. :hmmm:

I only posted that to show that the difference in points scored between the two teams wasnt that big when you consider how much our defense was responsible for.

If we are trying to have an apples to apples discussion, let's leave the oranges out of it.

He said that it would be nice if we scored 27 points sometime. He did not say anything about them being only offensive points, so I corrected him and pointed out that we have.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

It was implied, doofus.

LMAO

This thread IS funny sometimes.

Notice my post didn't quote anybody?

It was simply responding to the post showing the jets scoring.

The two offenses haven't been far off of each other in terms of points scored.

How about reading comprehension, now?

I didn't need implied. It was clearly stated in the quoted post.

The discussion was about offensive scoring.

splatbass PWNT by BossChief

Our offense has scored 21, 17 and 19.

Total of 57 points

Their offense has scored 18, 10 and 27

Total of 55 points

Now, I've taught you reading comprehension AND mathematics.

Any other lessons needed tonight?

Can you tell us about the great Richard Stanzi.

Is he still on Jacksonvilles roster?

My defensive formations teacher got banned today, BossChief, so could you be my substitute until I find another?

He was right in the middle of talking about the Chiefs and the 3-3-5 defense before he got kicked off the forum.

I was replying to Clay, not to him.

No at all. You are smarter than this, why do you say such stupid shit all the time?

This is a thread about QB play. You think we give a shit about defensive TDs?

Squirrel eat your brains, son?

I sure would like to see our offense score 27 points. That easier for you?

You're a dumbass.

ROFL

LMAO


I'm feeling a breakdown after this game. If Clay would be willing to provide gifs, I might be able to provide A22 screenshots.

For you, anything. PM me what you need.

Don't try to place blame on others for your inability to follow along.

OCity posted the scores Genos offense put up and CLEARLY labeled them OFFENSIVE POINTS

Clay responds by saying I wish we could score that many (OBVIOUSLY meaning our offense scoring that many because of the subject matter of the post he quoted)

You are all like "haha gotcha. We scored 28 against Jacksonville!! Neener neener neener"

People laugh at you for not understanding the conversation

You throw out insults about others not being able to comprehend what you had posted

Everybody laughs at you, again, and shows you exactly why ...so you can hopefully get up to speed and not embarass yourself again.

You respond with some reeruned excuse of why you peed your pants

Everyone walks away shaking their heads

It shall be done my liege.


Which reminds me...I'm like, 9 months overdue on the POF post. We uhh, should probably do that sometime soon.

I'm feeling next weekish. I'll peruse teh site and report back to you with more details.

CheckingItDownToFuk WILL RISE

If the Jets keep playing shit teams and get gifted 15 yard penalties when the game should be over they may end up 3-13.

Winning!

Did blackbob get banned again?