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Chief Roundup 05-02-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8588768)
Oh yeah?

**** you.

No. I don't swing both ways. And you are not sucking my cock you waste of bandwith.

Micjones 05-02-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8588794)
It's not so much the 12 games...it's that people saw those 12 games and decided he didn't even deserve another chance.

That's pretty bad, and that's two franchises doing that.

And I'm sure he'll be #3 here in KC, proving that he does, in fact, suck a large amount of cock.

Tampa Bay and Cleveland may have very different evaluation processes, but Quinn was far more efficient after his first 12 starts.

BigMeatballDave 05-02-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8588794)
It's not so much the 12 games...it's that people saw those 12 games and decided he didn't even deserve another chance.

That's pretty bad, and that's two franchises doing that.

And I'm sure he'll be #3 here in KC, proving that he does, in fact, suck a large amount of cock.

Yeah, Denver really tried.

He started a whopping 0 games.

The Franchise 05-02-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8588788)
I get that part, but that's only important to the REST of Freeman's career.
He'll most certainly be done in Tampa Bay if he doesn't prove himself in 2012.

In being just 25 after next season he'll have 5-6 more years left in his body, but he'll be all but finished as an NFL starter. He isn't going to get another chance to be "the guy" unless the QB, he'll most certainly be backing up, goes down due to injury.

He DOES NOT have 5 more years to prove himself to the Bucs.

You don't think he'll get another chance to prove himself?

If he falters this year and is let go by the Bucs (which I doubt)......he'll undoubtedly get picked up by a team looking for a QB and he'll get his second chance.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8588799)
No. I don't swing both ways. And you are not sucking my cock you waste of bandwith.

Bringing up Rich Gannon to defend any shitty QB was played out 3 years ago with Cassel.

What's next? Quinn throws 24 picks and you bring up Trent Green?

**** that shit. I'm tired of the ****ing true fans constantly referring to giant exceptions to the rules to prop up some piece of shit who should be playing UFL ball.

The Franchise 05-02-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8588794)
It's not so much the 12 games...it's that people saw those 12 games and decided he didn't even deserve another chance.

That's pretty bad, and that's two franchises doing that.

And I'm sure he'll be #3 here in KC, proving that he does, in fact, suck a large amount of cock.

He was not starting over Tebow or Orton in Denver. I wish people would ****ing get that point. Quinn has had exactly ONE chance so far in the NFL....and even that was ****ed up.

Chief Roundup 05-02-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8588784)
Rich Gannon never actually showed anything. When you throw out the rose-colored revisionist history, he produced nearly IDENTICAL results to Elvis Grbac in KC and in Oakland, he played in a dink and dunk offense with two HoF WRs.

Rich Gannon may be one of the most overrated QBs in Chief fan history.

That all my very well be true but he out played Grbac and most wanted Gannon to stay in the starting role. Instead Marty put Grbac back in the lineup and we lost. Yet Gannon went on to Oakland and took them to a SB. All after the age of 32.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8588807)
Yeah, Denver really tried.

He started a whopping 0 games.

There's this thing called practice, where players can show their skills.

Teams do evaluate players in practice.

BigMeatballDave 05-02-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8588819)
There's this thing called practice, where players can show their skills.

Teams do evaluate players in practice.

LMAO

One of the dumbest things I've read here.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8588826)
LMAO

One of the dumbest things I've read here.

How do you think Brodie Croyle won the Chiefs' starting job in 2008?

It certainly wasn't based on 2007.

He won it based on training camp and preseason.

Bottom line is that if Quinn had shown ANYTHING after 12 horrible starts in Cleveland, the Browns or the Broncos would have tried to keep him.

I don't even know why we're having this discussion. Pioli will never open the QB position up for competition here. It's Cassel's job until Pioli is fired, or Cassel sustains horrible injury.

Chief Roundup 05-02-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8588815)
Bringing up Rich Gannon to defend any shitty QB was played out 3 years ago with Cassel.

What's next? Quinn throws 24 picks and you bring up Trent Green?

**** that shit. I'm tired of the ****ing true fans constantly referring to giant exceptions to the rules to prop up some piece of shit who should be playing UFL ball.

Dude if you would pay attention you would know that I want Cassel out of here. I am tired of his worthless ass.
I was just pointing out that it has happened and will probably happen again.
Some of you need to take your sensitivity down a notch or 100. Geez.

htismaqe 05-02-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8588818)
That all my very well be true but he out played Grbac and most wanted Gannon to stay in the starting role. Instead Marty put Grbac back in the lineup and we lost. Yet Gannon went on to Oakland and took them to a SB. All after the age of 32.

No he didn't out play Grbac AT ALL.

Grbac - 10 games, 57% completion, 6.2 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT, 8-2 W/L
Gannon - 6 games, 56% completion, 6.5 YPA, 7 TD, 4 INT, 5-1 W/L

The idea that Gannon outplayed Grbac is 100% pure nostalgia and nothing more.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2012 02:49 PM

I'm very sensitive when people bring up dumbshit arguments that we heard three years ago to defend a shitty QB.

They were dumbshit arguments then, they are dumbshit arguments now.

Maybe we should go resign Tyler Thigpen so his legion of true fans can use the Rich Gannon defense to pimp him.

Chief Roundup 05-02-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8588830)
How do you think Brodie Croyle won the Chiefs' starting job in 2008?

It certainly wasn't based on 2007.

He won it based on training camp and preseason.

Bottom line is that if Quinn had shown ANYTHING after 12 horrible starts in Cleveland, the Browns or the Broncos would have tried to keep him.

I don't even know why we're having this discussion. Pioli will never open the QB position up for competition here. It's Cassel's job until Pioli is fired, or Cassel sustains horrible injury.

He won it by default. We had Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen for his competition.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8588843)
He won it by default. We had Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen for his competition.

WRONG. They had an open competition between Huard and Croyle.

Huard sucked balls, so Croyle took it based on training camp and preseason.

Conversely, Huard won it the season prior based on the same criteria.


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