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chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10552479)
What the **** are you talking about?

FFS read the shit you are typing and stop being a brainwashed ....well, nevermind.

You can't be unbrainwashed.

What's the point of trying to talk sense into people that don't want to see the light.

You will always think its ok to wait till next year...even though next year never happens.

This year never happens either. You keep bringing this up as if building through free agency has worked for us too. Neither a draft first or free agency first strategy has worked for us.

BossChief 04-09-2014 10:35 PM

Brainwashed into accepting mediocrity.

Not just accepting it, but full blown embracing it and even supporting it.

Sad.

I can't wait until you make excuses during the season while these glaring holes are still there and are preventing us from winning big games.

Oh well.

chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10552502)
Brainwashed into accepting mediocrity.

Not just accepting it, but full blown embracing it and even supporting it.

Sad.

Yeah, I'm brainwashed because I don't think the team Pioli and Dorsey built is good enough to win now. Because I think their golden boy QB, Alex Smith, needs more help than that because he's not Peyton Manning.

Meanwhile, you're sitting here telling me we are 2 or 3 pieces away from being legit Super Bowl contenders. And I'm the one who's towing the company line.

But feel free to keep piggybacking off of milkman's comments.

BossChief 04-09-2014 10:49 PM

I've held that opinion as long as anyone here. Go **** yourself for making that comment.

I've NEVER piggybacked off anyone's comments, ever.

I think this is a 8-10 win team that won't be able to compete during the playoffs because of the 2-3 huge holes it has...I also think this team has the potential to win 12 games if we had solidified its weaknesses through free agency and has a strong draft.

Not just 12 wins, but also a team that could beat ANYONE in the AFC in the playoffs.

chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10552522)
I've held that opinion as long as anyone here.

I've NEVER piggybacked off anyone's comments, ever.

I think this is a 8-10 win team that won't be able to compete during the playoffs because of the 2-3 huge holes it has...I also think this team has the potential to win 12 games if we had solidified its weaknesses through free agency and has a strong draft.

Not just 12 wins, but also a team that could beat ANYONE in the AFC in the playoffs.

This is still a team that ended the season at 2-5 and while we were impressive in the Colts game, we still lost to a team that got whalloped by the Patriots (who didn't even win the conference. Denver then beat New England). And Denver and New England got a hell of a lot better this offseason. And then we face either Seattle, New Orleans, or San Fran in the Super Bowl?

So I don't disagree with you that today we are a bubble playoff team and we could actually win a playoff game with 2 or 3 holes fixed. But we are still a longshot to win a Super Bowl.

By the way… I don't believe in constantly waiting until next year. I want a big push in 2015 and would hardly call calling for Houston, Berry, and Smith extensions small potatoes.

BossChief 04-09-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10552538)
This is still a team that ended the season at 2-5 and while we were impressive in the Colts game, we still lost to a team that got whalloped by the Patriots (who didn't even win the conference. Denver then beat New England). And Denver and New England got a hell of a lot better this offseason. And then we face either Seattle, New Orleans, or San Fran in the Super Bowl?

So I don't disagree with you that today we are a bubble playoff team and we could actually win a playoff game with 2 or 3 holes fixed. But we are still a longshot to win a Super Bowl.

By the way… I don't believe in constantly waiting until next year. I want a big push in 2015 and would hardly call calling for Houston, Berry, and Smith extensions small potatoes.

:facepalm:

You always push "next year" and always use "the salary cap" as an excuse why we shouldn't try to win THIS YEAR.

The reason: you are brainwashed because that's all this team has EVER done, sans the Joe Montana years.

chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10552566)
:facepalm:

You always push "next year" and always use "the salary cap" as an excuse why we shouldn't try to win THIS YEAR.

The reason: you are brainwashed because that's all this team has EVER done, sans the Joe Montana years.

Right, because the Vermeil years were an exercise in responsible cap management and building through the draft. Because Peterson's push to fill holes in the early Herm years worked really well.

This team has been shitty in all phases of the game the last 20 years. Stop acting like my approach hasn't worked, but somehow yours has. We've sucked in the draft. And free agents haven't worked for us. It's both.

mcaj22 04-09-2014 11:38 PM

and it looks like it will continue to be both judging by the horrible 2013 draft and the JAG FAs on the roster.

chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10552586)
and it looks like it will continue to be both judging by the horrible 2013 draft and the JAG FAs on the roster.

We have to draft a whole lot better. A WHOLE lot better. No matter which strategy we go with.

kcxiv 04-10-2014 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10552566)
:facepalm:

You always push "next year" and always use "the salary cap" as an excuse why we shouldn't try to win THIS YEAR.

The reason: you are brainwashed because that's all this team has EVER done, sans the Joe Montana years.

Even them MOntana years were false hope. While Montana was an all time great, he was so beat up when we got him, he was playing just to prove to S.F that he still had something.

BigMeatballDave 04-10-2014 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10552622)
Even them MOntana years were false hope. While Montana was an all time great, he was so beat up when we got him, he was playing just to prove to S.F that he still had something.

One win from the SB is false hope?

TEX 04-10-2014 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10552573)
Right, because the Vermeil years were an exercise in responsible cap management and building through the draft. Because Peterson's push to fill holes in the early Herm years worked really well.

This team has been shitty in all phases of the game the last 20 years. Stop acting like my approach hasn't worked, but somehow yours has. We've sucked in the draft. And free agents haven't worked for us. It's both.

Glad you mention the "Vermeil years." What happened in the 2003 & 2004 seasons? Welcome back to the future...

chiefzilla1501 04-10-2014 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10552675)
Glad you mention the "Vermeil years." What happened in the 2003 & 2004 seasons? Welcome back to the future...

Is this a serious question? In 2003, the Chiefs went on a huge spending binge bringing in Shawn Barber, Vonnie Holliday, Dexter McCleon. 2004 they were quiet, but attempted to fill in their Right Tackle problem with John Welbourn. In 2005, they binged again by bringing in Sammy Knight, Kendrell Bell, trading big for Patrick Surtain. You'll recall that during the entire DV era, it was extremely difficult for rookies to win starting jobs.

And in 2005, rather than cut the cord and rebuild, we decided to spend money on McIntosh and Ty Law to band aid the team.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-10-2014 07:07 AM

Bitch Planet

warrior 04-10-2014 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10552723)
Bitch Planet




I agree/ can't wait tell the draft gets here -----------long off season


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