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O.city 03-13-2019 07:29 AM

I'd take that 2nd from the Ford trade and see if Houston would move Clowney.

Chief_N_Bama 03-13-2019 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14153026)
So maybe you should consider SAT score smack next time as an interim step?

Nah, we're grown...

Tribal Warfare 03-13-2019 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14153020)
So you're not a Chiefs fan, eh?

Like Alex Only fans, he outed himself with that slip

BigRedChief 03-13-2019 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14151027)
I would be stunned if it were anything better than their 3rd at this point.

insert stunned gif

SupDock 03-13-2019 07:41 AM

Dee Ford said he is going to be "like a Ferrari" for the Niners defense.

Expensive and afraid to get damaged?

Chief_N_Bama 03-13-2019 07:42 AM

The comp pick for Ford would be end of the third round in 2021. Basically a 4th. Which equates to 5th round value in next year’s 2020 draft. That’s a large difference in value.

Well, while you are using some fuzzy math, I will admit that the value of the picks is more than what I previously implied. Still the value of EDGE>SS makes that worth it.

What I think you’re missing is that Ford clearly doesn’t mesh well with what Spagnuolo wants to do, or he would have been retained. That the money spent on Ford can be spread around on other players who do fit and who are complete players in this system.


Oh, I get that he isn't the perfect "fit" but neither does Mathieu. And it's easier to replace Mathieu at our draft position than it is to replace 80 something QB pressures.

Tying up money on ages 28-32 seasons of a guy who has been healthy and productive 40 percent of the time from 23-27 and who is a complete liability against the run is dangerous, too, regardless of position.

When have I advocated for giving Ford a long term deal? We had him on a 1 year rental, that was relatively cheap when you consider we just paid a FREAKING STRONG SAFETY $14MM PER!!!!

Chief_N_Bama 03-13-2019 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14153020)
So you're not a Chiefs fan, eh?

Oh, you're so smart.

How often do you think I come across Chiefs fans IRL, doofus?

loochy 03-13-2019 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 14153062)
Dee Ford said he is going to be "like a Ferrari" for the Niners defense.

Expensive and afraid to get damaged?

More like a Land Rover

Always broken, slow to be repaired, and not really that great

tmax63 03-13-2019 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 14152685)
Absolutely. Veach (and Reid) will be rightly judged over how the defense progresses over the next 2 years. By that time Kelce and Hill will be past their primes —still good years left but on the wrong side of up-and-coming. We’ve got to get this right in short order.

If Hill and Kelce will be past their primes in 2 years then Ford and Houston are "over the hill" already.

RealSNR 03-13-2019 07:48 AM

What is it with dudes in the deep south and pining over shitty players?

Tiger with Alex, UChieffy with Berry, this asshole with Ford...

TwistedChief 03-13-2019 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14153060)
insert stunned gif

Everyone who is anyone who has read this thread in its entirety now is well aware that a 2020 2nd is equivalent to a 2019 3rd. So put that gif away... :-)

Sassy Squatch 03-13-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 14153066)
Oh, you're so smart.

How often do you think I come across Chiefs fans IRL, doofus?

LMAO So your point is you don't meet Chiefs fans in real life....... while posting on an internet message board. Yeah, alright then.

TambaBerry 03-13-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14153071)
What is it with dudes in the deep south and pining over shitty players?

Tiger with Alex, UChieffy with Berry, this asshole with Ford...

inbred, and poor education system

RealSNR 03-13-2019 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 14152927)
LOL... Yall pull so much shit out of yalls asses in order to make a point...

ONE play and Ford doesn't have discipline. How many other flags did he draw all season? Keep in mind that KC was the MOST penalized team in the league last year.

Consistency? When he has been on the field he is consistently one of the better pass rushers in the league...

Durability... this is thing in your post that is true... but KC signed Watkins last year, and Mathieu this year and they have the same issues, and play much less valuable positions.

Dude. It's not just one play. It's a 3rd down play late in the 4th quarter against the Patriots in the AFCC. No, Dee didn't know the ball would be intercepted, but that shouldn't matter, because he should know that an offsides penalty ****s everything up regardless of the outcome of the free play.

He's a ****ing idiot. He's always been a ****ing idiot. He took ****ing forever to figure out how to play in the NFL, and his attitude on and off the field is just too lackadaisical. He's empty headed. Undisciplined.

You heard me. Dee Ford is an undisciplined mother****er.

KCUnited 03-13-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 14153062)
Dee Ford said he is going to be "like a Ferrari" for the Niners defense.

Expensive and afraid to get damaged?

Dee Ford playing the run.

https://i.imgur.com/XXzQjSp.gif


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