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Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17963964)
Names.
Slater for me. Would've solved the problem for a decade plus.

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17963970)
All I know is some of you need to open your eyes, start breathing again, and stop stomping your feet.

I KNOW you WANTS the new Left Tackle NOWS … but throwing fits about isn’t going to manifest it.

It’s easy to say “spend the money.” You can’t control who is available to spend the money on.

Maybe Robinson hits the market. Maybe Alaric Jackson does (the Rams don’t use the franchise tag, so it’s possible he’s out there). Maybe each of them is locked up before the window opens. I wouldn’t blink one bit if they made Jackson the new highest paid player at LT, because they can create the cap space, it’s worth doing, he’s young and good, and it’s better than helping a G reset the market when he’s good in pass protection but not dominant.

They will do … something.

I don’t love the idea of signing a veteran in the JAG tier to stop-gap it while they keep trying to develop a T based on traits. But that may end up being the best option available to them. And in that scenario, Humphries in his second year removed from his ACL tear might be a pretty good option.

I do believe they’re going to consider both upside and floor with whatever decision they make.

That probably means they aren’t going to blow through a bunch of draft capital to get a T in a pretty weak T draft … unless they’re lock-stock sold on that player.

And unless they see something no one else does, I have a hard time believing that T is in this draft, unless there’s a guy the Chiefs see something with… that most don’t.
Well said.

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17963964)
Names.
Enough. It's up to him to identify and acquire the necessary assets to protect Mahomes. That's not on members of CP.

GordonGekko 02-11-2025 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17963963)
Names.

From now on, this will be my answer to any post saying THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING

Name the ****ing names.

Some of you guys think real life is Madden.
The LT situation should have been handled in the offseason last year, not w/ desperate reactive decisions bringing in Humphries etc. during the latter part of the season. To me thinking they were good coming into the season w/ Kingsley and Morris as LT depth is a huge huge red flag and the NFL exposed how bad of a decision that was within the first few games.

One path I can think of would have been taking the tackle the Cowboys did (Guyton) instead of Worthy, prob a 1,000+ different things they could have done last off season. Mahomes with like 1.5 seconds average more to throw is a 40+ TD QB easily, but only having like 2 seconds even Brady/Manning/peak Rodgers would suck in these scenarios.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963971)
Slater for me. Would've solved the problem for a decade plus.
But you have no idea where exactly they needed to go up to, what it would cost, and whether they had a willing trade partner.

And this is all in hindsight.

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963971)
Slater for me. Would've solved the problem for a decade plus.
And in what scenario was THAT an option?

ROFL

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17963974)
Enough. It's up to him to identify and acquire the necessary assets to protect Mahomes. That's not on members of CP.
If you're going to bitch, you need to have a plan.

Otherwise, you're just complaining.

Nobody likes a whiner.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17963976)
The LT situation should have been handled in the offseason last year, not w/ desperate reactive decisions bringing in Humphries etc. during the latter part of the season. To me thinking they were good coming into the season w/ Kingsley and Morris as LT depth is a huge huge red flag and the NFL exposed how bad of a decision that was within the first few games.

One path I can think of would have been taking the tackle the Cowboys did (Guyton) instead of Worthy, prob a 1,000+ different things they could have done last off season. Mahomes with like 1.5 seconds average more to throw is a 40+ TD QB easily, but only having like 2 seconds even Brady/Manning/peak Rodgers would suck in these scenarios.
If they took Guyton instead of Worthy, they'd still have a hole at LT with no WRs outside of an injured Rashee Rice LMAO

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17963974)
Enough. It's up to him to identify and acquire the necessary assets to protect Mahomes. That's not on members of CP.

It is if you’re going to be whiny adolescents about it and keep spouting things out of touch with reality.

You want to complain over and over again? Provide alternatives.

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17963976)
The LT situation should have been handled in the offseason last year, not w/ desperate reactive decisions bringing in Humphries etc. during the latter part of the season. To me thinking they were good coming into the season w/ Kingsley and Morris as LT depth is a huge huge red flag and the NFL exposed how bad of a decision that was within the first few games.

One path I can think of would have been taking the tackle the Cowboys did (Guyton) instead of Worthy, prob a 1,000+ different things they could have done last off season. Mahomes with like 1.5 seconds average more to throw is a 40+ TD QB easily, but only having like 2 seconds even Brady/Manning/peak Rodgers would suck in these scenarios.

Guyton was absolutely AWFUL this year. Couldn’t pass block. Couldn’t run block. Got flat-out dominated.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17963979)
And in what scenario was THAT an option?

ROFL
If you're wondering why folks aren't debating in good faith anymore, this is it. Demanding names and then immediately dismissing it outright when you get one folks will just shut it down and quit playing.

GordonGekko 02-11-2025 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17963982)
It is if you’re going to be whiny adolescents about it and keep spouting things out of touch with reality.

You want to complain over and over again? Provide alternatives.




Guyton was absolutely AWFUL this year. Couldn’t pass block. Couldn’t run block. Got flat-out dominated.
I think most LT's struggle in their first year, even Fisher did. It was just one scenario I could think of, perhaps with Chiefs coaching and knowing you are protecting Mahomes maybe he plays better? Veach gets paid $ millions to think about these decisions all day along with having access to the best analysts/coaches for their input the Chiefs employ. 2x Superbowls now where our OL got stomped and we were blown out.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963987)
If you're wondering why folks aren't debating in good faith anymore, this is it. Demanding names and then immediately dismissing it outright when you get one folks will just shut it down and quit playing.
You named a ****ing guy that went 13th overall to a divison rival in a draft where the Chiefs were picking 31st.

Naming a name that requires a lot more than just a signing, trade, or minor trade up in the draft isn't sufficient.

Again, you have no ****ing clue whether that was even remotely a possibility. That's the entire point of asking for names. Stop being obtuse.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17963988)
I think most LT's struggle in their first year, even Fisher did. It was just one scenario I could think of, perhaps with Chiefs coaching and knowing you are protecting Mahomes maybe he plays better? Veach gets paid $ millions to think about these decisions all day along with having access to the best analysts/coaches for their input the Chiefs employ. 2x Superbowls now where our OL got stomped and we were blown out.
So how was Guyton supposed to help us this year, moron?

We're in the same boat except with no ****ing WR. We're not even playing in the SB, and you're here bitching that we STILL don't have a LT, AND we have Jack shit at WR after Rice. That's where we'd be right now with your alternative.

****ing morons man.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17963990)
You named a ****ing guy that went 13th overall to a divison rival in a draft where the Chiefs were picking 31st.

Naming a name that requires a lot more than just a signing, trade, or minor trade up in the draft isn't sufficient.

Again, you have no ****ing clue whether that was even remotely a possibility. That's the entire point of asking for names. Stop being obtuse.
K. Didn't fit your parameters so it doesn't count. Not going to bother further then.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963994)
K. Didn't fit your parameters so it doesn't count. Not going to bother further then.
You've been doing this Slater shit for over a year and it's 100% unrealistic operating in hindsight nonsense.

Sorry that the only answer you can provide is entirely unrealistic and pretty ****ing stupid considering that.

GordonGekko 02-11-2025 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17963993)
So how was Guyton supposed to help us this year, moron?

We're in the same boat except with no ****ing WR. We're not even playing in the SB, and you're here bitching that we STILL don't have a LT, AND we have Jack shit at WR after Rice. That's where we'd be right now with your alternative.

****ing morons man.
Wow name calling, going to put you on ignore

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17963996)
Wow name calling, going to put you on ignore
Go right ahead pussy.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17963995)
You've been doing this Slater shit for over a year and it's 100% unrealistic operating in hindsight nonsense.

Sorry that the only answer you can provide is entirely unrealistic and pretty ****ing stupid considering that.
Wut. I pounded the table for Slater that entire off-season and wanted to give up multiple 1sts to do it. A very stiff price to pay but the dude was All Pro out the gate

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17963988)
I think most LT's struggle in their first year, even Fisher did. It was just one scenario I could think of, perhaps with Chiefs coaching and knowing you are protecting Mahomes maybe he plays better? Veach gets paid $ millions to think about these decisions all day along with having access to the best analysts/coaches for their input the Chiefs employ. 2x Superbowls now where our OL got stomped and we were blown out.
RIght? Maulata dropped to, what, the 6th round for the Eagles?

LT is the second most important position on this team. There should have been a good young prospect sitting behind OBJ so that he can just take over once he left via FA. You have to keep the pipeline going. Some teams love to overdraft on OL and DL prospects for this reason.

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963999)
Wut. I pounded the table for Slater that entire off-season and wanted to give up multiple 1sts to do it. A very stiff price to pay but the dude was All Pro out the gate
you have to trade up if necessary. Veech has shown that he's willing to do that as did Dorsey before him.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963999)
Wut. I pounded the table for Slater that entire off-season and wanted to give up multiple 1sts to do it. A very stiff price to pay but the dude was All Pro out the gate
You do understand that wanting to trade up to 12 or earlier from 31 is one thing, but actually being able to do it is another, right?

You have no idea who was willing to trade, if anybody, what the cost would've been, etc.

When you're talking about a move that big, it's impossible to know what was possible. Stop being obtuse, and at least acknowledge that with your answer, then maybe we can take it seriously.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17964001)
you have to trade up if necessary. Veech has shown that he's willing to do that as did Dorsey before him.
It would have meant losing one each of Humphrey/Bolton and McDuffie/Karlaftis, at least. That's ****ing brutal but the offset is solving the issue for most of Mahomes career with a top end talent.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17963988)
I think most LT's struggle in their first year, even Fisher did. It was just one scenario I could think of, perhaps with Chiefs coaching and knowing you are protecting Mahomes maybe he plays better? Veach gets paid $ millions to think about these decisions all day along with having access to the best analysts/coaches for their input the Chiefs employ. 2x Superbowls now where our OL got stomped and we were blown out.

He does get paid millions. So maybe the reason they didn’t take Guyton was because … the grade on him wasn’t much different than the grade on guys like Suamataia.

They just tried to get through a season taking lumps with young guys who needed to develop based on their traits, and people are complaining that wasn’t good enough.

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963987)
If you're wondering why folks aren't debating in good faith anymore, this is it. Demanding names and then immediately dismissing it outright when you get one folks will just shut it down and quit playing.

Well, saying they should have traded to 13 to get Rashawn Slater is really out of touch with reality and possibilities.

If you want to talk about that draft, Christian Darrisaw is the guy to discuss. In hindsight, I’d imagine they would try harder to get into 21 or 22.

That’s really the only realistic alternative since Fisher popped his Achilles’ … but even Darrisaw had grades on him similar to a lot of guys who have ended up playing G.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964004)
It would have meant losing one each of Humphrey/Bolton and McDuffie/Karlaftis, at least. That's ****ing brutal but the offset is solving the issue for most of Mahomes career with a top end talent.
Aaaand you still don't know whether it was even a possiblity in the first place.

BigRedChief 02-11-2025 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17963972)
Well said.
In Veach we trust. He fixed the OL in one off season last time, he can do it again.

JPH83 02-11-2025 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17963970)
All I know is some of you need to open your eyes, start breathing again, and stop stomping your feet.

I KNOW you WANTS the new Left Tackle NOWS … but throwing fits about isn’t going to manifest it.

It’s easy to say “spend the money.” You can’t control who is available to spend the money on.

Maybe Robinson hits the market. Maybe Alaric Jackson does (the Rams don’t use the franchise tag, so it’s possible he’s out there). Maybe each of them is locked up before the window opens. I wouldn’t blink one bit if they made Jackson the new highest paid player at LT, because they can create the cap space, it’s worth doing, he’s young and good, and it’s better than helping a G reset the market when he’s good in pass protection but not dominant.

They will do … something.

I don’t love the idea of signing a veteran in the JAG tier to stop-gap it while they keep trying to develop a T based on traits. But that may end up being the best option available to them. And in that scenario, Humphries in his second year removed from his ACL tear might be a pretty good option.

I do believe they’re going to consider both upside and floor with whatever decision they make.

That probably means they aren’t going to blow through a bunch of draft capital to get a T in a pretty weak T draft … unless they’re lock-stock sold on that player.

And unless they see something no one else does, I have a hard time believing that T is in this draft, unless there’s a guy the Chiefs see something with… that most don’t.
Duncan, I agree with all this and posted something similar, maybe on another thread. I think it's highly unlikely that it's possible, but I'd like us to at least try for Stanley.

After that, as you say, maybe DJ back is the best option short-term. I just don't see the draft offering a reasonable way out.

It's not an easy problem to fix and we may have to accept it won't be next year, maybe not for a few years if the drafts and FA aren't favourable.

Will it dent our SB hopes the next couple of years? Quite possibly, but we also won a SB with Donovan Smith.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17964006)
He does get paid millions. So maybe the reason they didn’t take Guyton was because … the grade on him wasn’t much different than the grade on guys like Suamataia.

They just tried to get through a season taking lumps with young guys who needed to develop based on their traits, and people are complaining that wasn’t good enough.




Well, saying they should have traded to 13 to get Rashawn Slater is really out of touch with reality and possibilities.

If you want to talk about that draft, Christian Darrisaw is the guy to discuss. In hindsight, I’d imagine they would try harder to get into 21 or 22.

That’s really the only realistic alternative since Fisher popped his Achilles’ … but even Darrisaw had grades on him similar to a lot of guys who have ended up playing G.
Darrisaw actually would be operating in hindsight. And he's kind of a brokedick. Slater is too TBF but from the outside looking in that seems like the Chargers doing Charger things and completely mismanaging injuries leading to exacerbation rather than mitigation.

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963987)
If you're wondering why folks aren't debating in good faith anymore, this is it. Demanding names and then immediately dismissing it outright when you get one folks will just shut it down and quit playing.
Slater went, what, #13? In what world could we get to #13?

That's not a good faith debate, it's fantasy.

and yeah, I'll dismiss fantasy as exactly that.

BigRedChief 02-11-2025 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964004)
It would have meant losing one each of Humphrey/Bolton and McDuffie/Karlaftis, at least. That's ****ing brutal but the offset is solving the issue for most of Mahomes career with a top end talent.
I love Bolton as a player and leader but he is too slow to cover the RB/TE out of the backfield and gets exposed. He is an old school LB in a modern speed game.

We will miss him but we need a 2025 LB with some speed. Should be able to get a great one with one of those 2nd rounders.

We change out that possible long term $15 million deal for a rookie deal. Could use that $15 million to get us a WR, help pay a LT etc.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:40 AM
Said the same thing back then. Hit the bid button until a team says yes. Foolhardy, sure, but that's what I wanted them to do.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:43 AM
What they ended up doing was better anyway. OBJ was very very good in 2021. Unfortunately his play slid significantly and his agent was a complete ****ing moron irregardless.

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964004)
It would have meant losing one each of Humphrey/Bolton and McDuffie/Karlaftis, at least. That's ****ing brutal but the offset is solving the issue for most of Mahomes career with a top end talent.
I can't think of a single time when Belichick left Brady's blindside to a scrub...

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17964012)
Slater went, what, #13? In what world could we get to #13?

That's not a good faith debate, it's fantasy.

and yeah, I'll dismiss fantasy as exactly that.
Cowboys took Parsons at 12, and Bears took Fields at 11. Zero reason to think either of those teams had any desire to pass on those guys and go all the way back to 31.

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 07:44 AM
I don't see Staley leaving Baltimore. He's been there his entire career, and they're a perennial contender.

Jackson, on the other hand, is 26, entering his prime, and Stafford is nearing the end. He could take the bag and come to KC and protect Mahomes for the rest of his career if it works out. So I see that as a greater possibility.

Robinson, I'm just not enthused about.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964015)
Said the same thing back then. Hit the bid button until a team says yes. Foolhardy, sure, but that's what I wanted them to do.

And it was as out of touch with reality then as it is now.

The Chargers aren’t going to trade with you. You’d have to get to 11 or 12 to get in front of them for Slater, who they were connected with pretty heavily, and the price there is going to be higher than the one to get Mahomes.

Asking them to do that for a guy many were concerned would end up at G is pretty out of touch.

Especially when their alternative was trading a lot less for a guy who was good enough to get them back to an afc championship and win a Super Bowl, who they made a very fair offer to keep long-term.

BigRedChief 02-11-2025 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17964020)
I don't see Staley leaving Baltimore. He's been there his entire career, and they're a perennial contender.

Jackson, on the other hand, is 26, entering his prime, and Stafford is nearing the end. He could take the bag and come to KC and protect Mahomes for the rest of his career if it works out. So I see that as a greater possibility.

Robinson, I'm just not enthused about.
Wait, Jackson is a FA?

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:49 AM
For now, yes. IMO the Rams will tag him after the Kupp situation is handled by trade/cut but if he hits the open market that's the guy.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17964020)
I don't see Staley leaving Baltimore. He's been there his entire career, and they're a perennial contender.

Jackson, on the other hand, is 26, entering his prime, and Stafford is nearing the end. He could take the bag and come to KC and protect Mahomes for the rest of his career if it works out. So I see that as a greater possibility.

Robinson, I'm just not enthused about.

Yeah, and it’s weird… Snead doesn’t like the franchise tag. Doesn’t use it.

So not sure what the Rams do. Sounds like they want to go young and re-set on offense like they did with their defense.

Maybe they’d be willing to tag Jackson to trade him and get some leverage. IDK.

But yeah, I’d be all over it. And fine with the Chiefs blowing it out to get him.

There’s some risk there - he doesn’t have an incredibly long track record of great play - but he’s a young and ascending guy.

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964015)
Said the same thing back then. Hit the bid button until a team says yes. Foolhardy, sure, but that's what I wanted them to do.
Foolish is what it is.

See, I asked to name names because I already knew the answer. Some folks actually peruse the FA lists, and run mock drafts and whatnot in the off-season in our spare time. So we kind of have an idea of who's available and what it would cost.

So, when something bad happens like losing a Super Bowl because our LT situation sucks ass, and everyone is hyperventilating about how Veach screwed up and how could he do that?!

We already know that the answer is...this shit is hard, and sometimes there aren't really great answers to these questions. There's a dozen or more reasons why nobody has ever threepeated.

We now know ONE for sure.

Picking #31 or #32 for like 6 years in a row SHOULD completely deplete your talent level and drive your team into the mediocrity. The system is designed to do that.

The fact that we've been able to sustain success in spite of all that is a testament to Veach, Reid, Spags, and Mahomes.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17964026)
Yeah, and it’s weird… Snead doesn’t like the franchise tag. Doesn’t use it.

So not sure what the Rams do. Sounds like they want to go young and re-set on offense like they did with their defense.

Maybe they’d be willing to tag Jackson to trade him and get some leverage. IDK.

But yeah, I’d be all over it. And fine with the Chiefs blowing it out to get him.

There’s some risk there - he doesn’t have an incredibly long track record of great play - but he’s a young and ascending guy.
That's the key for me. He's 26 (27 when the 2025 season starts), has a relatively clean bill of health, and has shown constant development year to year. I just can't see a franchise as savvy as the Rams letting him walk.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:53 AM
Only caveat is if they know Stafford is hanging them up for good. And even then it just doesn't make sense to me.

staylor26 02-11-2025 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964029)
That's the key for me. He's 26 (27 when the 2025 season starts), has a relatively clean bill of health, and has shown constant development year to year. I just can't see a franchise as savvy as the Rams letting him walk.
I'm just going to assume they don't until they do. No sense in getting our hopes up.

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964029)
That's the key for me. He's 26 (27 when the 2025 season starts), has a relatively clean bill of health, and has shown constant development year to year. I just can't see a franchise as savvy as the Rams letting him walk.
He was their plan B, and played due to injury. They still have their plan A under contract, I think.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17964029)
That's the key for me. He's 26 (27 when the 2025 season starts), has a relatively clean bill of health, and has shown constant development year to year. I just can't see a franchise as savvy as the Rams letting him walk.

Yeah, it’s hard to know. But it sounds like they really want to clear the cap and set up for a new, long run of sustained success built around their young studs on D and Nacua.

Sassy Squatch 02-11-2025 07:57 AM
The one blemish is that 2 game suspension for personal conduct. AFAIK what happened hasn't been revealed. Is he secretly a ****ing idiot that we're constantly going to have to micromanage?

O.city 02-11-2025 08:00 AM
If they wanna tag him, send them our 2nd for him and sign him up

Problem solved (ish)

RunKC 02-11-2025 08:25 AM
Not much to think about now considering it’s hindsight.

Thinking of the draft and this is what I’m reading/hearing:

Will Campbell-top 10, maybe top 5
Kelvin Banks-top 8-12 pick
Josh Conerly-seems too small for a Reid tackle. Power was a big issue at Sr Bowl
Aireontae Ersery-possible. Big guy, from KC. Doesn’t seem athletic enough to be a LT in NFL. Big and strong though

To me it’s Josh Simmons if we want someone in the draft. Not sure I see any other LT’s that would be worth it

O.city 02-11-2025 08:31 AM
Also, Sunday is why you draft Joe Alt over a WR that early in the draft.

htismaqe 02-11-2025 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963987)
If you're wondering why folks aren't debating in good faith anymore, this is it. Demanding names and then immediately dismissing it outright when you get one folks will just shut it down and quit playing.
Slater wasnt an option. It wasn't a realistic answer and you knew it.

htismaqe 02-11-2025 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17964063)
Also, Sunday is why you draft Joe Alt over a WR that early in the draft.
Too bad the Chiefs haven't drafted early in over a decade.

htismaqe 02-11-2025 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963994)
K. Didn't fit your parameters so it doesn't count. Not going to bother further then.
There's only one parameter. Make a realistic, good faith suggestion.

O.city 02-11-2025 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17964072)
Too bad the Chiefs haven't drafted early in over a decade.
For sure.

Just in general, when it comes down to it, winning the line of scrimmage is just gonna top all other things in football.

crayzkirk 02-11-2025 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17964074)
For sure.

Just in general, when it comes down to it, winning the line of scrimmage is just gonna top all other things in football.
This 100%, when it comes down to it, isn't football really about being bigger, stronger and faster than the guy opposite you? I know that I want to believe that the better coach can make a difference however if the other players are simply physically better than yours, your chances go down drastically.

As I head a talking head on TV say, sometimes football is just that simple.

Andy Reid is an offensive guru yet no QB before Patrick was able to get him a SB victory.

It's a team sport, the problems that I saw were more than what a LT will fix. The years of success, drafting at the end of each round, missed picks and the NFL adapting to the Chiefs offense is not an easy fix.

O.city 02-11-2025 08:53 AM
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This 100%, when it comes down to it, isn't football really about being bigger, stronger and faster than the guy opposite you? I know that I want to believe that the better coach can make a difference however if the other players are simply physically better than yours, your chances go down drastically.

As I head a talking head on TV say, sometimes football is just that simple.

Andy Reid is an offensive guru yet no QB before Patrick was able to get him a SB victory.

It's a team sport, the problems that I saw were more than what a LT will fix. The years of success, drafting at the end of each round, missed picks and the NFL adapting to the Chiefs offense is not an easy fix.
Well some of it yes. They also went 15-2 and lost in the SB.

It was a successful run at a 3rd straight SB. Just fell short. Now you move on.

But yes, in the end.....it's not X's and O's as much as Jimmys and Joes.

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 09:15 AM
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Also, Sunday is why you draft Joe Alt over a WR that early in the draft.
That was a good move by the Chargers...

crayzkirk 02-11-2025 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17964092)
Well some of it yes. They also went 15-2 and lost in the SB.

It was a successful run at a 3rd straight SB. Just fell short. Now you move on.

But yes, in the end.....it's not X's and O's as much as Jimmys and Joes.
Yes, exactly. I don't know enough about the NFL to even begin to figure out how you move on and reproduce the success.

The Chiefs had to sell out to stop the Eagles rush attack and that left them open to the pass. The Eagles had to do nothing except play a basic red zone defense all game. Rush 4 and only worry about 20 yards because their Joes were dominating our Jimmies.


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