Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5480095)

I think it's kind of a pointless argument. They're completely different style quarterbacks. Roethlisberger's still more in the game-manager mold (although less than in the past with no real running game), whereas Brees is the central cog of that offense. I'd say Brees would fit the Steelers system about as well as Roethlisberger would fit the Saints, in other words. Both teams would have to fundamentally change what they do to fit the other behind center.

Either way, in the end, they're still both franchise quarterbacks. And Tyler Thigpen isn't either one of them.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5480097)

Jesus.

Someone comes up with stats that show how many times he was hit in 2008, and now you're disputing that.

It's what we have to work with, and it's a hell of a lot more than your assumption that because he throws more, he gets hit more.

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5480113)

Defensive coordinators aren't going to sit back and not blitz a QB who throws that much.

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5480113)

Defensive coordinators aren't going to sit back and not blitz a QB who throws that much.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5480120)

Blitzing doesn't mean the qb's going to be hit. Anybody who's watched the chiefs defense the last decade knows that better than most.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5480125)

Call the league and tell them someone is cooking the books.

Maybe you can split the long distance charges with chiefzilla, and he can tell them to pass on the message to all 32 GM's that they are idiots because they use the draft chart.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5480128)

:clap:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5480144)

because every defense is as bad as the chiefs

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5480138)

The introduction in that link says scorers could do a better job of counting knockdowns. The data can't be trusted.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5480149)

You can flip the script and say blitzing doesn't mean the qbs going to be hit. Anybody who watched the Chiefs offense from '02 to '05 knows that better than most.

Good QBs/offenses handle blitzing.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5480156)

Something I pointed out immediately.

But since hits aren't an official stat, but is tracked by the official scorer, it's what we have to work with.

So, you can either break down film of every pass attempt of his this season and get back to us, or you can continue to ignore the mountain of evidence that has been placed in front of you proving you wrong.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5480156)

Something I pointed out immediately.

But since hits aren't an official stat, but are tracked by the official scorer, it's what we have to work with.

So, you can either break down film of every pass attempt of his this season and get back to us, or you can continue to ignore the mountain of evidence that has been placed in front of you proving you wrong.

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5480169)

You can't honestly say he only got hit three times against Tampa Bay, Minnesota, Carolina, Atlanta and Chicago. He played a couple of those teams twice.