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Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=337032)

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15636206)

Depends on where in the first.

Ideally, we'd go stopgap and one in the 2nd or 3rd. I think the developmental guys in the 2nd and 3rd round actually fit better at LT in a pass-oriented offense.

I'm absolutely against trading up at all. I don't think the guys available in the 20's will be that much better fits than anybody we could grab at 31.

I don't consider "day 1 starter" to be a very valuable evaluation criteria. I want a guy with high upside in pass protection.

But if we are going to talk about trading 1st round picks, especially next year's, I'd MUCH rather have Brown than any tackle in this draft, including Sewell. We know he can play in the NFL at a high level. He's worth it.

I'm open to being persuaded, but isn't Browns biggest weakness pass pro?

Seems like a poor fit here at first glance

I'm not real big on trading up either, assuming Jenkins is there for us at 31... I know you're not big on him, but he fits our scheme best I can tell and will presumably make it to us without trading up

Damn, i never put it together that Orlando Brown's dad was THE Orlando Brown that got hit in the eye with a flag.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15636192)

Exactly.

The Ravens can rid themselves of a potential problem in Brown and get picks for it or they can sit tight and watch those teams, including the Chiefs, address their problems anyway, all the while they're stuck with Brown.

Or or they can trade him to another team. Get picks. And not help out their biggest road block to the superbowl.

Crazy. I know.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15636247)

Damn, i never put it together that Orlando Brown's dad was THE Orlando Brown that got hit in the eye with a flag.

Lol, that was an easy one.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15636247)

Damn, i never put it together that Orlando Brown's dad was THE Orlando Brown that got hit in the eye with a flag.

Zeus. Watched that game. That was a BIG man chasing that Ref around after he got hit in the eye with that flag. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15636189)

First, they aren't in our division (and division trades do happen anyway) and secondly, the Chiefs are going to get a LT with or w/o the Ravens.

If you plan on going to the SB, you can plan on playing the Chiefs no matter what. They're going to find a LT no matter what. So no matter what, you're going to play the goddamn Chiefs and they're going to have a good LT.

Now, you can cut off your nose to spite your face, or you can effectively take the Chief's 1st round pick and then some, and profit off them while riding yourself of a headache at the same time, WHILE ensuring they pay a premium to yet another position instead of the Chiefs paying a LT on a rookie contract. (Hell, maybe this allows the Ravens to move up and pick up a LT on a rookie contract)

You're over here worrying about "OMG, what if we have to play the Chiefs, what if they're GOOD???".

Competent NFL teams aren't worried about that fan made hypothetical drama. You worry about building the best team you can build. Not what may or may not happen with some other team that aint even in your division.

If the Chiefs offer the most, you take it and let the chips fall where they may. I can promise you no one in Baltimore is sitting there trembling in their boots as if they can't beat the Chiefs.

In a league where anything can happen, and any injury can derail a season, it'd be idiotic to turn down the most profitable offer that both helps you, and taps the Chiefs resources over hypothetical what-ifs.

It would be idiotic to give your biggest roadblock to the superbowl one of the 3 most important positions unless they severely overpay. No the Ravens aren't trembling because of us, but there's a 100% chance they're thinking of us when they make certain moves. Especially when one of those moves will directly help us.

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15636257)

Or or they can trade him to another team. Get picks. And not help out their biggest road block to the superbowl.

Crazy. I know.

If you take lesser compensation because you're scared then you're your own biggest road block.

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15636277)

And yet they're rumored to be discussing the trade with the Chiefs....

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15636279)

If you take lesser compensation because you're scared then you're your own biggest road block.

It's not about being scared. It's about being smart. If the next teams offer is anywhere in the ball park of the chiefs, why would you not take that one and force the Chiefs to take a chance in the draft? You could win 3 ways there, 1) you got picks from another team. 2) you didn't help the chiefs by giving them a proven player 3) chiefs might potentially draft a bust.

Now if the chiefs were to really offer much more than the next team, of course you take that.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15636284)

And yet they're rumored to be discussing the trade with the Chiefs....

Link other than NFLrums? And yeah I'm sure they'll try to see how much they can squeeze out of the chiefs. It's not like they're going to decline the phone calls lol.

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15636258)

Lol, that was an easy one.

TIL

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15636293)

It's not about being scared. It's about being smart.

Being smart means you take the best compensation available.

If you lose out on a key prospect that went a few picks higher, or have to trade to get to a spot where they woulda been with the Chiefs picks, or lose out on a prospect all together because the Chiefs offered an additional pick, that doesn't sound very ****ing smart to me.

You're arguing that the Ravens should take less compensation because it might make the Chiefs better, rather than focusing on making themselves the best they can be.

Loser mentality. I doubt the Ravens think that way.

I'm not saying they won't consider the partner. Of course they will. But i highly doubt it's a significant determining factor.

They aren't trading him to KC. Allowing your biggest competition to fill their biggest hole woudln't be smart.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15636336)

They aren't trading him to KC. Allowing your biggest competition to fill their biggest hole woudln't be smart.

They're filling it with or w/o you.

Now you can take their 1st round picks while they do it or not.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15636339)

They're filling it with or w/o you.

Now you can take their 1st round picks while they do it or not.

Fine.

Why would I let them fill it with my pro bowl tackle? Unless they wanna overpay that is.

Let them fill it with an unproven draft pick.