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Kiimo 06-26-2022 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16348405)
I don’t have actual data or a set of plays in mind, but from watching GB games last year, he just always seemed to miscommunicate with Rodgers whenever he was targeted. That could be because of a bad or hurried throw, but it just happened so often. It just seemed like anything where MVS wasn’t wide open and had a perfectly thrown ball was always going to be incomplete.

We’ll see if that changes now that he’s apparently going to be given more responsibility than he got in GB.

It was just hard to watch any GB game last year and think, “Man Davante Adams is incredible but the rest of those turds kinda suck”


There's no MVS thread I can find so this will have to be where I post these things. I brought up your post in another forum and this is the response I got from a Green Bay fan:

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I'm really glad to see someone with the same thoughts on MVS. I'm a Packer fan. Rodgers missed MVS a LOT on his deep routes this year. MVS also had no drops in 2021 - which is the thing I keep seeing people bring up as the biggest knock against him.

I thought MVS improved quite a bit in 2021 and he's consistently a WR I've been targeting in my many best ball drafts thus far.

So at least one fan blames Rodgers, not MVS. You would expect them to be a homer about it too and blame the wide receiver not the golden QB.

ThyKingdomCome15 06-26-2022 12:15 PM
It's going to take a minute for 15 to gel with these guys.

Kiimo 06-26-2022 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16348598)
It's going to take a minute for 15 to gel with these guys.
Certainly. But it is already moving significantly faster between Mahomes and MVS than it is with Juju or Skyy which is my only point.


All the people posting that MVS sucks and he isn't going to get more than 400 yards aren't doing the research they're just throwing shit against the wall.

-King- 06-26-2022 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16348351)
Any particular reasoning behind saying that he “just isn’t good?”

He had a specific role in GB and did it well. IIRC he didn’t have a single drop last year. His speed is basically Hill-level. And he’s still an ascending young player.

What is he so bad at?
He didn't do it well. He was a limited and frustrating WR that only caught 49% of the balls thrown his way. It's why he's not back with them even though they needed all the WR help they could get.

-King- 06-26-2022 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16348610)
Certainly. But it is already moving significantly faster between Mahomes and MVS than it is with Juju or Skyy which is my only point.


All the people posting that MVS sucks and he isn't going to get more than 400 yards aren't doing the research they're just throwing shit against the wall.
Are you really basing chemistry off mini camp practices?

Kiimo 06-26-2022 12:29 PM
Are you ever basing your opinion on any topic whatsoever on anything other than what you want to believe? Don't answer I'm not interested in having conversations with you anymore.

-King- 06-26-2022 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16348630)
Are you ever basing your opinion on any topic whatsoever on anything other than what you want to believe? Don't answer I'm not interested in having conversations with you anymore.
LMAO you're the one talking about mini camp chemistry.

RaidersOftheCellar 06-26-2022 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16348615)
He didn't do it well. He was a limited and frustrating WR that only caught 49% of the balls thrown his way. It's why he's not back with them even though they needed all the WR help they could get.
If your role is to catch deep balls, your catch rate is going to be much lower than a receiver that is asked to do more. Again, he had zero drops last year.

He’s not there because they didn’t want to/couldn’t pay him what KC is. Same reason Hill isn’t here anymore.

dtrain 06-26-2022 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16348617)
Are you really basing chemistry off mini camp practices?
They did work out in Texas together along with other receivers

TwistedChief 06-26-2022 03:04 PM
Had some interactions this weekend with an NFL media personality who has gone on record saying that he expects the Chiefs WRs to be better without Tyreek Hill.

I asked him if he really believed that. He said, "Nah, but we just need to take positions like that sometimes."

BWillie 06-26-2022 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16348322)
I don't care what kind of chemistry the 2 have shown in non padded practices. MVS just isn't good.
Well yeah, hes never been good. Not sure how this is a relevation to Chiefsplanet.

RealSNR 06-26-2022 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16348559)
Anyone else see the name Skyy Moore and wonder for a moment why a thread about a porn star is on the main lounge?

Not sure a performer with the same name exists, but it sounds like it should.
His name is Skyy Moore, not Skeet Moore

RealSNR 06-26-2022 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16348615)
He didn't do it well. He was a limited and frustrating WR that only caught 49% of the balls thrown his way. It's why he's not back with them even though they needed all the WR help they could get.
Eesh. That's the stat I was looking for. 49% and no drops? That to me says it's a miscommunication thing or he sucks at tracking the ball.

TwistedChief 06-26-2022 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16348823)
Eesh. That's the stat I was looking for. 49% and no drops? That to me says it's a miscommunication thing or he sucks at tracking the ball.
He’s also getting the deepest average target in the NFL. This isn’t 49% for a slot guy.

RaidersOftheCellar 06-26-2022 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16348851)
He’s also getting the deepest average target in the NFL. This isn’t 49% for a slot guy.
Not sure what people expect that number to be, given his role.

The best deep ball throwers in the NFL connect on about 40%. Yet we expect a WR who is almost exclusively a deep threat to have catch rate well above 50%?


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