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Hammock Parties 09-26-2022 09:36 PM

really hard not to like Mike McDaniel

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...MA&oe=6337EE4B

Mr. Plow 09-27-2022 06:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills Fans want to bring up the dropped Pick from Matt Milano that Tua threw but not a word about the 5 DROPPED INTs Josh Allen Threw!!! <br><br>2 NEAR PICK 6s &amp; 3 INT drops in the 4th alone! <br><br>I clipped them all down below ����<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Finsup?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Finsup</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> <a href="https://t.co/oRwsfbZFbT">pic.twitter.com/oRwsfbZFbT</a></p>&mdash; KingConcha (@KingConcha) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingConcha/status/1574395346217746432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RaidersOftheCellar 09-27-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16491956)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills Fans want to bring up the dropped Pick from Matt Milano that Tua threw but not a word about the 5 DROPPED INTs Josh Allen Threw!!! <br><br>2 NEAR PICK 6s &amp; 3 INT drops in the 4th alone! <br><br>I clipped them all down below ����<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Finsup?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Finsup</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> <a href="https://t.co/oRwsfbZFbT">pic.twitter.com/oRwsfbZFbT</a></p>&mdash; KingConcha (@KingConcha) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingConcha/status/1574395346217746432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Those must have all been NHFs (Not His Fault).

Hammock Parties 09-27-2022 07:48 AM

CHIEFENSE is going to eat him alive

JustDíqLix 09-27-2022 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16491956)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills Fans want to bring up the dropped Pick from Matt Milano that Tua threw but not a word about the 5 DROPPED INTs Josh Allen Threw!!! <br><br>2 NEAR PICK 6s &amp; 3 INT drops in the 4th alone! <br><br>I clipped them all down below ����<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Finsup?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Finsup</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> <a href="https://t.co/oRwsfbZFbT">pic.twitter.com/oRwsfbZFbT</a></p>&mdash; KingConcha (@KingConcha) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingConcha/status/1574395346217746432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

These were all his fault but it’s expected with elite QB’s in my opinion. Great QB’s take more risk than average QB’s. There is a reason why Mahomes is always in the top ranks of passes that should have been intercepted but weren’t. Mahomes is elite and takes more risks because he knows he can. Allen does the same thing.

Youll also notice that the majority of them came with under 5 minutes left. He was pushing and taking more risks because they needed a TD and time was running out.

Hammock Parties 09-27-2022 07:54 AM

those are just dumb throws

Mr. Plow 09-27-2022 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16492015)
These were all his fault but it’s expected with elite QB’s in my opinion. Great QB’s take more risk than average QB’s. There is a reason why Mahomes is always in the top ranks of passes that should have been intercepted but weren’t. Mahomes is elite and takes more risks because he knows he can. Allen does the same thing.

Youll also notice that the majority of them came with under 5 minutes left. He was pushing and taking more risks because they needed a TD and time was running out.

I don't disagree, but some of those were bad passes and bad reads.

JustDíqLix 09-27-2022 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16492023)
I don't disagree, but some of those were bad passes and bad reads.

Agreed. Though I don’t think it’s any different than what Mahomes does at times.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-27-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16492015)
There is a reason why Mahomes is always in the top ranks of passes that should have been intercepted but weren’t.

Is this a scientific fact? Or just a narrative that certain people like to push.

Somebody from the Bronco forum posted a video of clips that were all considered "interceptable" throws from Mahomes in 2020, and a lot of them were huge reaches. DBs diving and barely getting a fingertip on the ball counted as interceptable. I guess they think every DB has Beckham hands. LMAO

There were a good number of dropped picks in 2020, and there were some against LAC in the Thurs night game, but how does his rate of interceptable balls compare to other QBs with a similar number of passes?

Funny that people just ignore the fact that the exact opposite happened last year. I've never seen a QB pile up so many unlucky picks in one season, including the one that effectively ended the season.

htismaqe 09-27-2022 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16492015)
These were all his fault but it’s expected with elite QB’s in my opinion. Great QB’s take more risk than average QB’s. There is a reason why Mahomes is always in the top ranks of passes that should have been intercepted but weren’t. Mahomes is elite and takes more risks because he knows he can. Allen does the same thing.

Youll also notice that the majority of them came with under 5 minutes left. He was pushing and taking more risks because they needed a TD and time was running out.

There's a reason guys like Allen and Mahomes produce so many dropped INT's. Think about the ball velocity and trajectory - it's like catching from a left-footed punter or something.

staylor26 09-27-2022 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16491956)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills Fans want to bring up the dropped Pick from Matt Milano that Tua threw but not a word about the 5 DROPPED INTs Josh Allen Threw!!! <br><br>2 NEAR PICK 6s &amp; 3 INT drops in the 4th alone! <br><br>I clipped them all down below ����<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Finsup?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Finsup</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> <a href="https://t.co/oRwsfbZFbT">pic.twitter.com/oRwsfbZFbT</a></p>&mdash; KingConcha (@KingConcha) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingConcha/status/1574395346217746432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not just Bills fans, where the **** are the idiots in the media?

Bearcat 09-27-2022 09:17 AM

Watch out, your diqlix is showing. LMAO

JustDíqLix 09-27-2022 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16492148)
Is this a scientific fact? Or just a narrative that certain people like to push.

Somebody from the Bronco forum posted a video of clips that were all considered "interceptable" throws from Mahomes in 2020, and a lot of them were huge reaches. DBs diving and barely getting a fingertip on the ball counted as interceptable. I guess they think every DB has Beckham hands. LMAO

There were a good number of dropped picks in 2020, and there were some against LAC in the Thurs night game, but how does his rate of interceptable balls compare to other QBs with a similar number of passes?

Funny that people just ignore the fact that the exact opposite happened last year. I've never seen a QB pile up so many unlucky picks in one season, including the one that effectively ended the season.


I thought I read that but I apologize if it was just a Chargers video duping me. (edited to add tweet I got that from)

But my point is that it doesn’t matter. Mahomes is elite. One of the best overall players in the game. He is going to take risks that other QB’s don’t take and that’s okay.

He had 4 should-be-interceptions against the Chargers. Should you care? I don’t think so. He has earned the right to take chances and take risks because he’s Patrick F’ing Mahomes.

He’s that dude.

Big time QB’s take risks and have dropped INT’s. It’s part of what makes them great, because a lot of times those risky throws end up being insane TD’s.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes, Patrick Mahomes has 25 TDs 1 INT.<br><br>But the 1 INT isn&#39;t a fair reflection of his turnover-worthy plays.<br><br>He&#39;s behind only Carson Wentz (7)+Fitzmagic (6) in dropped INTs by the defense this szn. <br><br>I&#39;m not saying he sucks, he&#39;s still incredible, but the 1 INT stat is a mirage</p>&mdash; Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1326559193692827657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Plow 09-27-2022 10:17 AM

Those "should-be-interceptions" go along really well with the "almost-touchdown-passes".

Bearcat 09-27-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16492279)
Those "should-be-interceptions" go along really well with the "almost-touchdown-passes".

And almost-playoff-victories.


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