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KChiefs1 08-31-2018 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 13701849)
Getting anything for a backup that's making 2M and is a pending free agent is impressive

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Love it.

siberian khatru 08-31-2018 12:08 PM

Butera will always have a spot on my wall -- in my framed copy of the KC Star front page, the pic of him hugging Wade Davis after the final out of the 2015 World Series.

Glad to see the Cam Gallagher era begin. Also supposedly the Royals will call up Viloria in September. I'd like to see him catch a few innings.

BigCatDaddy 08-31-2018 12:09 PM

Looks like they got a decent AAA reliever.

siberian khatru 08-31-2018 12:14 PM

I should add that Butera also had one of the biggest at-bats in Royals history. I've always said that if I ever ran into him, that would be the first thing I would thank him for.

tk13 08-31-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13701972)
Butera will always have a spot on my wall -- in my framed copy of the KC Star front page, the pic of him hugging Wade Davis after the final out of the 2015 World Series.

Glad to see the Cam Gallagher era begin. Also supposedly the Royals will call up Viloria in September. I'd like to see him catch a few innings.

I think that will always be everyone's memory of him.

Although I will say he took a big walk in the 8th inning comeback against the Astros in game 4. Kept the inning alive, allowed us to take the lead and bring in Wade to shut the door. That was huge.

Bufkin 08-31-2018 12:19 PM

Butera certainly had his shining moments, but was otherwise a terrible catcher with horrid offensive statistics and subpar defensive numbers. The fact that the Royals traded 2 months of that for an alright minor league reliever is highway robbery on DM’s end.

ChiTown 08-31-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13701987)
I think that will always be everyone's memory of him.

Although I will say he took a big walk in the 8th inning comeback against the Astros in game 4. Kept the inning alive, allowed us to take the lead and bring in Wade to shut the door. That was huge.

THAT was huge, and I would say that was his greatest contribution to a team that was facing elimination. Big ups to The Hair-flip!

dlphg9 08-31-2018 02:21 PM

Facebook fans are the dumbest of the dumb. They literally have no clue about the sport. People bitching about us getting rid of all the good players lol. Someone was bitching because we keep trading Major Leaguers for Minor Leaguers. Just so ****ing ignorant it makes my head hurt.

BWillie 08-31-2018 02:24 PM

Don't look now but Nick Pratto is starting not to suck. Hitting .273, 12 HR, .761 OPS. Still don't understand why a guy that is an above-average athlete wants to play 1B, but whatever. Apparently has a 60 scouting grade arm, and could be a pitcher if he wanted. Guess he can't play 3B since he's LH.

dlphg9 08-31-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13702137)
Don't look now but Nick Pratto is starting not to suck. Hitting .273, 12 HR, .761 OPS. Still don't understand why a guy that is an above-average athlete wants to play 1B, but whatever. Apparently has a 60 scouting grade arm, and could be a pitcher if he wanted. Guess he can't play 3B since he's LH.

Dn, that'd be nice if he started picking it up. We need a 1B.

Sure-Oz 08-31-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13702135)
Facebook fans are the dumbest of the dumb. They literally have no clue about the sport. People bitching about us getting rid of all the good players lol. Someone was bitching because we keep trading Major Leaguers for Minor Leaguers. Just so ****ing ignorant it makes my head hurt.

Some dude on Twitter was so mad he won't watch the Royals till they get a new gm. Trading Butera was the last straw!

duncan_idaho 08-31-2018 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13702137)
Don't look now but Nick Pratto is starting not to suck. Hitting .273, 12 HR, .761 OPS. Still don't understand why a guy that is an above-average athlete wants to play 1B, but whatever. Apparently has a 60 scouting grade arm, and could be a pitcher if he wanted. Guess he can't play 3B since he's LH.


I mentioned a week or so ago that he was picking it up since the minor league ASB and May have had something click.

He is .310/.388/.482 since then over 225 ABs. It’s driven mostly by his very hot August.

Discuss Thrower 08-31-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13702168)
Some dude on Twitter was so mad he won't watch the Royals till they get a new gm. Trading Butera was the last straw!

You found OK's twitter account.

May god have mercy on your soul.

RealSNR 08-31-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13701973)
Looks like they got a decent AAA reliever.

I looked up Vasto. He's had one appearance in an MLB game, and he gave up 3 ERs in only two outs of an inning. That's all he played.

Probably still too young, and I'm certainly not complaining. We weren't going to re-sign Butera anyway (or at least we shouldn't have bothered) so it's definitely a great trade to get anybody for Butera this late.

Dartgod 08-31-2018 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13702135)
Facebook fans are the dumbest of the dumb. They literally have no clue about the sport. People bitching about us getting rid of all the good players lol. Someone was bitching because we keep trading Major Leaguers for Minor Leaguers. Just so ****ing ignorant it makes my head hurt.

They've only been fans since 2014, so whatever.

Valiant 08-31-2018 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13702168)
Some dude on Twitter was so mad he won't watch the Royals till they get a new gm. Trading Butera was the last straw!

All my girl friends are pissed. Mainly because of his hair and he was cute.

Sassy Squatch 08-31-2018 05:42 PM

Players like Hosmer, Cain, and Moustakas I understand. Getting pissed over Butera? The ****?

Discuss Thrower 08-31-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 13702416)
All my girl friends are pissed. Mainly because of his hair and he was cute.

If they also like Salvy, why don't ya go ahead and show them the Italy vs Venezuela game of the last WBC.

dlphg9 08-31-2018 06:07 PM

610 was reading tweets from people and dear mother of jeebus, the masses are idiots. So much anger over a pretty bad back up catcher.

Prison Bitch 08-31-2018 07:48 PM

Butera was one of the worst royals I've see

tk13 08-31-2018 08:28 PM

It's nice to at least see some contributions from the young guys lately. Even again tonight, Dozier, O'Hearn, Mondesi, now Gallagher all doing something out there.

BigCatDaddy 08-31-2018 08:34 PM

Also another good start from Keller.

I would have no problem running this lineup out there next year. Just start Soler over Phillips and Gallagher backs up Salvy. I would like to see them at least shore up the pen though via trade or FA.

tk13 08-31-2018 08:47 PM

Speaking of... holy O'Hearn. Just did it again. Guy is hitting with some serious pop. Now 3-5 with 4 RBI tonight, plus 7 HR in 21 games.

tk13 08-31-2018 08:50 PM

Seriously, O'Hearn almost has half as many HR/RBI as Hosmer in 111 less games.

Sassy Squatch 08-31-2018 08:51 PM

O'Hearn is a BAMF

Fish 08-31-2018 10:08 PM

So.... did I hear the radio broadcast correctly tonight when they said that Whit was the oldest player on the roster now? Is that really right or did I have whiskey in my ear?

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-31-2018 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13702714)
Seriously, O'Hearn almost has half as many HR/RBI as Hosmer in 111 less games.

Hosmer was hanging around in my fantasy draft about 50 spots beyond where his rank suggested he should be picked, so I pulled the trigger on him. One of the worst picks I've ever made. That contract is going to go down as one of the worst in baseball history. Mike Hampton-level bad.

OKchiefs 08-31-2018 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13702810)
So.... did I hear the radio broadcast correctly tonight when they said that Whit was the oldest player on the roster now? Is that really right or did I have whiskey in my ear?

Let's build our team around him!!!

suzzer99 08-31-2018 11:20 PM

Butera will probably always own the greatest walk in Royals history.

https://media.giphy.com/media/D6WuLOKOpR2fK/giphy.gif

suzzer99 08-31-2018 11:23 PM

FWIW - as much as I can remember in the midst of my 15-year-old sexual angst haze - this is what it felt like in '85. Every year that went by you appreciate what happened more, and that no one can ever take it away.

Until about 10 years later then it starts to get sad. After 20 years later you become convinced losing has always happened and will always happen.

dlphg9 08-31-2018 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13702810)
So.... did I hear the radio broadcast correctly tonight when they said that Whit was the oldest player on the roster now? Is that really right or did I have whiskey in my ear?

Alex Gordon says hey, **** you.

BWillie 08-31-2018 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13702711)
Speaking of... holy O'Hearn. Just did it again. Guy is hitting with some serious pop. Now 3-5 with 4 RBI tonight, plus 7 HR in 21 games.

There is a reason he hit .230 with a .700 OPS in AAA. His current pace of slug is not sustainable.

tk13 09-01-2018 12:08 AM

That's highly possible. The league will adjust for sure. But for now they might as well play the guy and see what happens. He's the first American League player to have 7 HR and 19 RBI in his first 21 games since Carlos Delgado 25 years ago.

tk13 09-01-2018 12:09 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Based on my research, O’Hearn is the 11th player ever. The list:<br><br>Mandy Brooks (1925)<br>Orlando Cepeda (1958)<br>Willie McCovey (1959)<br>George Scott (1966)<br>Alvin Davis (1984)<br>Carlos Delgado (1993-94)<br>Albert Pujols (2001)<br>Jeff Francoeur (2005)<br>Cody Bellinger (2017)<br>Rhys Hoskins (2017) <a href="https://t.co/dcs5RY9eHa">https://t.co/dcs5RY9eHa</a></p>&mdash; Kurtis Seaboldt (@KSeaboldt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KSeaboldt/status/1035748013506002944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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SuperBowl4 09-01-2018 12:14 AM

BREAKING NEWS! - THE ROYALS SUCK! - STAY TUNED

suzzer99 09-01-2018 02:12 AM

source? link?

zigbazah 09-01-2018 02:37 AM

Huge if true.

duncan_idaho 09-01-2018 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13702689)
Also another good start from Keller.

I would have no problem running this lineup out there next year. Just start Soler over Phillips and Gallagher backs up Salvy. I would like to see them at least shore up the pen though via trade or FA.


I want to see Phillips play every day for at least 1/2 the season. His defense is valuable, and the power + patience profile is worth investigating.

Gordon/Phillips/Soler

Bonifacio rotates in at DH and plays some corner OF.

Chiefspants 09-01-2018 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13703040)
I want to see Phillips play every day for at least 1/2 the season. His defense is valuable, and the power + patience profile is worth investigating.

Gordon/Phillips/Soler

Bonifacio rotates in at DH and plays some corner OF.

Phillips has never gotten daily AB's at the MLB level. He needs a team to be patient with him to see if he can figure it out.

It's the only reason why Moose, Hos, Gordo and Cain broke with this team. They had 2 seasons if not more to each "figure it out".

BigCatDaddy 09-01-2018 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13703040)
I want to see Phillips play every day for at least 1/2 the season. His defense is valuable, and the power + patience profile is worth investigating.

Gordon/Phillips/Soler

Bonifacio rotates in at DH and plays some corner OF.

No interest in Goodwin? Seems like the more established guy.

duncan_idaho 09-01-2018 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13703155)
No interest in Goodwin? Seems like the more established guy.


I don’t care about established. I care about upside.

Phillips offers the potential for plus defense in CF with a .260/.350/.475 slash line. He’s younger than Goodwin and was a higher regarded prospect.

Goodwin is a fine 5th Of to have around because he can play any spot and is a LH bat (giving you 2 RH AND 3 LH bats which is a good mix). But I don’t expect much of him.

Discuss Thrower 09-01-2018 10:23 AM

Hot, wild-ass guess/take: Soler gets moved at the 2019 trade deadline.

Prison Bitch 09-01-2018 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13703090)
Phillips has never gotten daily AB's at the MLB level. He needs a team to be patient with him to see if he can figure it out.
it out".

That's my thought. We're talking about a AAAA guy with zero plate discipline

tk13 09-01-2018 10:51 AM

Phillips was a top 100 prospect who's never been able to play full time. He'll be starting everyday next year. Plus he's a solid defender, this team values CF defense so much he'll play even if his bat struggles. Goodwin will have to light it up to steal his job, or the combo of not finding a trade partner for Whit and Nicky Lopez playing so well they just can't keep him at AAA anymore.

BigCatDaddy 09-01-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13703337)
Phillips was a top 100 prospect who's never been able to play full time. He'll be starting everyday next year. Plus he's a solid defender, this team values CF defense so much he'll play even if his bat struggles. Goodwin will have to light it up to steal his job, or the combo of not finding a trade partner for Whit and Nicky Lopez playing so well they just can't keep him at AAA anymore.

How about we just move Gordon to the front office?

Chris Meck 09-01-2018 11:32 AM

Junis, Keller, Duffy are three solid looking SP for next year's rotation. You've got some bullpen arms in AAA that should be ready to go. I like Phillips a LOT. Dozier's been a lot better of late. Mondesi has been better. I don't expect O'Hearn to continue THIS pace, but let's see if he bottoms out or just to a solid bat. Whit's a solid veteran. If Soler's healthy, and Goodwin's your 4th OF... I'm telling you guys, they could be shouting distance of .500 as soon as next year.

BWillie 09-01-2018 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13703282)
I don’t care about established. I care about upside.

Phillips offers the potential for plus defense in CF with a .260/.350/.475 slash line. He’s younger than Goodwin and was a higher regarded prospect.

Goodwin is a fine 5th Of to have around because he can play any spot and is a LH bat (giving you 2 RH AND 3 LH bats which is a good mix). But I don’t expect much of him.

Phillips is the re-incarnate of Alex Gordon.

KChiefs1 09-01-2018 07:12 PM

Sweet!
https://twitter.com/royals/status/10...627695104?s=21

ChiefsCountry 09-01-2018 08:15 PM

Whit with the walk off homer!

Dunit35 09-01-2018 08:16 PM

Phillips jacked up.

tk13 09-01-2018 08:17 PM

Phillips is such a character. If he turns into what we hope he's going to be a fan favorite.

srvy 09-01-2018 08:18 PM

Whit walks it off. Damn that dude is one bright spot in this year for sure.

zigbazah 09-01-2018 08:20 PM

Whitley!

#1 pick is probably gone, but at least the kids are starting to show some life.

KChiefs1 09-01-2018 08:22 PM

*** Official 2018 Royals Repository ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zigbazah (Post 13704458)
Whitley!

#1 pick is probably gone, but at least the kids are starting to show some life.



I'm hoping the 2nd pick is just as good as the 1st pick.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9918798fc3.png

siberian khatru 09-01-2018 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13704465)
I'm hoping the 2nd pick is just as good as the 1st pick.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9918798fc3.png

It often is, unless there’s a generational talent like ARod or Chipper or Harper.

The biggest difference is probably the draft money.

Sure-Oz 09-01-2018 08:49 PM

Increase that trade value Whit!

RealSNR 09-01-2018 10:03 PM

The Orioles are just going to take the catcher anyway, right?

May as well win against them

Fish 09-01-2018 10:24 PM

Fun game tonight. Young players are doing well. No pressure, just have fun get experience...

PunkinDrublic 09-01-2018 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigbazah (Post 13704458)
Whitley!

#1 pick is probably gone, but at least the kids are starting to show some life.

Lol the Royals do this shit all the time after they’ve clinched a losing season.

BWillie 09-02-2018 12:03 AM

Whit Merrifield is a god, maybe not thee god, at least I don't think.

Wish we could have PH Butera for him or something and lost the game though

KChiefs1 09-02-2018 05:27 AM

Soria doing Soria things in Milwaukee.

duncan_idaho 09-02-2018 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13704759)
Soria doing Soria things in Milwaukee.


He’s been excellent for them and is having a great year.

Royals would have been better served to hold onto him and move him at the trade deadline, rather than dumping him ASAP just
to cut some money.

Though, of corse, if the royals had him, they might not be in line for a top 2 pick...

gblowfish 09-02-2018 08:32 AM

God, Baltimore is awful. How did these two teams fall so far in just three years? Amazing.

Al Bundy 09-02-2018 10:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost says Jorge Soler had a setback in his rehab. Asked about possible return this year and Yost said probably doesn’t look very good</p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/1036290354692145153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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tk13 09-02-2018 11:00 AM

Rany had a crazy stat on Twitter this morning. Whit has basically moved into the top 25 position players in Royals history in WAR. The only 2B ahead of him is Frank White. He's only played really for two seasons.

suzzer99 09-02-2018 11:08 AM

I hate the idea of trading Whit because the optimist in me hopes we compete while he's still good. But what could we possibly get for him in an offseason trade? Draft picks or prospects. Duncan - thoughts?

BigCatDaddy 09-02-2018 11:20 AM

I think you bring him back and give the team a shot. Whit and aMondesi could be a hell of a middle infield next year.

Bufkin 09-02-2018 12:27 PM

Merrifield has been worth the cost of admission alone this year. It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but the diehard fan in me wants us to bring him back and keep him here.

suzzer99 09-02-2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13705014)
I think you bring him back and give the team a shot. Whit and aMondesi could be a hell of a middle infield next year.

Yeah it seems like that's most likely. But if some team wants to break the bank for Whit obviously you have to think about it. That's really what I'm wondering - what would it take to pry Whit away?

Prison Bitch 09-02-2018 12:39 PM

Some lady had a sign "Whit makes us a Merri Field"

wtf?

KChiefs1 09-02-2018 12:41 PM

Whit & Salvy are untradeable to me.

KChiefs1 09-02-2018 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13705129)
Some lady had a sign "Whit makes us a Merri Field"

wtf?


First time watching?

Bufkin 09-02-2018 12:59 PM

Whit with a base hit and his 30th stolen base.

Prison Bitch 09-02-2018 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13705133)
First time watching?

English please

Demonpenz 09-02-2018 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13704991)
I hate the idea of trading Whit because the optimist in me hopes we compete while he's still good. But what could we possibly get for him in an offseason trade? Draft picks or prospects. Duncan - thoughts?

you can't trade draft picks in bb

suzzer99 09-02-2018 02:49 PM

Lol I was just thinking - why don't I ever hear of any big blockbuster draft trades?

tk13 09-02-2018 02:50 PM

LMAO Viloria with a bat flip for his first hit. He did smash it though.

Fish 09-02-2018 02:52 PM

Young guys looking good today. Hudler shitfaced...

Fish 09-02-2018 02:56 PM

They just needed to be mathematically eliminated before they could really hit like pennant champs...

tk13 09-02-2018 03:05 PM

That was the best homestand we've had in a while. 7-1.


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