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ayleswbj 10-30-2013 11:51 AM

A lot of talk on here about what Alex screws up but not a lot of talk about how bad your offensive like is. Its pretty terrible. Jamal Charles is in line to touch the ball over 400 times and only on pace for 1200 yards rushing an even is on pace to catch 80 balls. Blame Alex all you can, but the O-line is the major problem. Him having played with the best O-line in football the last 2 years, his YPA were nearly at the Top as was his compl %. We seem to forget the Chiefs were 2-14 last year, there is still alot of work to be done and not just 8 games worth. Im talkin a whole nother offseason. I predict by the 12th game Alex will be right around 63-64%. He has a way of figuring things out. Dude is a winner, gotta give him that. Even with a leaky O-line.

Bearcat 10-30-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10140940)
It was the rule for what can be done with a killer D and a merely competent QB.

Another thing that you want to consider is that Alex is a very conservative QB. He doesn't like to take chances, and he hasn't really faced any situations this season in which he had to take a lot of chances.

In the past, though, he has had to come from behind and has got the job done.

Yep... another good reason to patiently wait and to not put much stock into the first 8 games. I guess there's a chance the defense really is THAT good and he won't ever have to play from behind by more than a touchdown... but, I doubt it (well, they might be that good, but it's bound to happen anyway).

Mav 10-30-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj (Post 10140959)
A lot of talk on here about what Alex screws up but not a lot of talk about how bad your offensive like is. Its pretty terrible. Jamal Charles is in line to touch the ball over 400 times and only on pace for 1200 yards rushing an even is on pace to catch 80 balls. Blame Alex all you can, but the O-line is the major problem. Him having played with the best O-line in football the last 2 years, his YPA were nearly at the Top as was his compl %. We seem to forget the Chiefs were 2-14 last year, there is still alot of work to be done and not just 8 games worth. Im talkin a whole nother offseason. I predict by the 12th game Alex will be right around 63-64%. He has a way of figuring things out. Dude is a winner, gotta give him that. Even with a leaky O-line.

While I personally don't have a problem with what you say. And I agree with you.

The response by a lot of people is not going to be kind.

Sorry boss.

Mav 10-30-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10140962)
Yep... another good reason to patiently wait and to not put much stock into the first 8 games. I guess there's a chance the defense really is THAT good and he won't ever have to play from behind by more than a touchdown... but, I doubt it (well, they might be that good, but it's bound to happen anyway).

Alex has shown the stones already as a chief to be extremely clutch though.

So, im not really sure that would be that big of a deal.

JENKINSWINS 10-30-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10140957)
I was a very conservative child. I didn't like to take chances, so I wouldn't ride a roller coaster for fear of barfing. I never really faced any situation as a child where I had to take those kind of chances.

I was a very conservative teenager. I didn't like to take chances, so I wouldn't ask that hot girl out for fear of rejection. I never really faced any situation as a teenager where I had to take those kind of chances.

As you can see from the above narratives, there is another word that comes to mind that could be used interchangeably with "conservative."

But Alex has a hot wife and takes chances by putting on a Chiefs uniform every game in front of a bad Oline, so there's no way you can call him whatever you're thinking of.

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10140941)
It's a whole lot quicker when you have top 3 stuff.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10140948)
What stuff?

Well?

Mr. Plow 10-30-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10140976)
Well?

Stuff man, stuff.

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-30-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10140976)
Well?

1.Brees can make every throw on the field.
2.Brees has the best footwork by a QB in the NFL.
3.Leadership
4. Decision-making
5. Accurate passing

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10141003)
1.Brees can make every throw on the field.
2.Brees has the best footwork by a QB in the NFL.
3.Leadership
4. Decision-making
5. Accurate passing

I'm not seeing how that relates to "gelling" and why it takes longer for Alice to gel than it did Brees?

Is Brees hitting a wide open Fasano for a TD where as Alice misses him because of lack of "gelling", or lack of talent?

NinerDoug 10-30-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10140957)
I was a very conservative child. I didn't like to take chances, so I wouldn't ride a roller coaster for fear of barfing. I never really faced any situation as a child where I had to take those kind of chances.

But hey, I never barfed, right?

I was a very conservative teenager. I didn't like to take chances, so I wouldn't ask that hot girl out for fear of rejection. I never really faced any situation as a teenager where I had to take those kind of chances.

But hey, I never got rejected, right?

As you can see from the above narratives, there is another word that comes to mind that could be used interchangeably with "conservative."

I like how you edited out the second part, about taking the chances when it's necessary.

The roller coaster analogy is ridiculous.

Here's how the hot girl analogy works: He's not asking them out right now, because they are asking him out. You have to wait for a Saturday Night coming up with no plans to see what he does.

And as I mentioned, he has shown that he can and will ask the girl out in that situation, and can and does get laid.

loochy 10-30-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10141006)
I like how you edited out the second part, about taking the chances when it's necessary.

The roller coaster analogy is ridiculous.

Here's how the hot girl analogy works: He's not asking them out right now, because they are asking him out. You have to wait for a Saturday Night coming up with no plans to see what he does.

And as I mentioned, he has shown that he can and will ask the girl out in that situation, and can and does get laid.

ROFL These analogies make me laugh

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-30-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10141005)
I'm not seeing how that relates to "gelling"?

Like i said, Show me a QB not in the top 10 gelling with WR in 8 weeks.

NinerDoug 10-30-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10140962)
Yep... another good reason to patiently wait and to not put much stock into the first 8 games. I guess there's a chance the defense really is THAT good and he won't ever have to play from behind by more than a touchdown... but, I doubt it (well, they might be that good, but it's bound to happen anyway).

How about three TDs? And having to do it in the second half? He did it against the Eagles in 2011. Does that not count because he was with the Niners at that time?

Bearcat 10-30-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10141017)
How about three TDs? And having to do it in the second half? He did it against the Eagles in 2011. Does that not count because he was with the Niners at that time?

We've been through the history several times... I know he's had comebacks, I know he won a playoff game against the Saints. Average QBs can have good days or even great days. That stuff gives people hope, but consistency is key, and of course what he does as a Chief is much more important to us than what he did in the past.

So, we wait.

Mr. Plow 10-30-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10141012)
Like i said, Show me a QB not in the top 10 gelling with WR in 8 weeks.

When do you consider the gelling completed....QB knows where WR is going to be & puts the ball there? WR running the correct routes? QB not missing wide open passes? Passes not sailing over the heads of open receivers?


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