Say you're wrong! Say you're wrong!

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Actually, go back and re-read the thread. He just recently changed his tune to admit they may have taken an equal number of hits. (which is also incorrect)

I've statistically already proven that wrong with the data that has been given.

It means BR was hit as much as Brees in nearly 200 fewer pass attempts.

I don't think Brees would have broken in half either, but it's kind of a silly thing to argue about. Trying to use stats and hard date to prove a fantasy (as in make-believe, not fantasy football) situation.

ROFL

No, it means BR was hit as much as Brees in nearly 200 fewer pass attempts, ASSUMING he took no other hits than sacks. (which we all know is not accurate)

I don't have data, so I've left it out.

Well, apparently, if Brees got hit more than Big Ben, Thigpen is a franchise quarterback and Stafford and Sanchez both suck, but if Big Ben took more shots, Thigpen is not a franchise quarterback and Stafford and Sanchez will both be in the Hall Of Fame without having to buy a ticket. It's a Chaos Theory thing....

There needs to be scientific research about this. Pro Football Outsiders and the scorers can't be trusted. I can believe the two QBs get hit an equal amount, but I doubt it's that lopsided. I dispute the whole thing because of the research limitations.

Of course you do, because it's much easier to dispute all this evidence instead of just saying, "I WAS WRONG."

Then again, I'd expect nothing less from you.

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What a staggering amount of intellectual dishonesty.

That kind of research can't be trusted. I know because research is the heart of what I'm doing at graduate school. I would never cite Pro Football Outsiders in a paper. It's OK on a message board, but not OK when conducting actual research.

That would take an expensive study where researchers attend games and count the number of times QBs get hit.

Amazing, ain't it?

I could easily say the same thing about you.

Then stick to verifiable stats. Roethlisberger got sacked 46 times in 469 pass attempts and Brees got sacked 13 times in 635. That's 1 sack every 10 drop-backs versus 1 sack every 49. That's nearly 3 sacks per game versus less than 1.

(How's that for lopsided...)

I think it would be very difficult to argue that Roethlisberger wasn't getting hit a lot more on a game-by game basis based on that. Project Roethlisberger's numbers out to the same number of attempts as Brees and he'd have been sacked over 62 times. Versus 13.

Again, this isn't some kind of argument that Brees is somehow less of a QB because he was hit less. It's just...numbers.

FUNNY COMING FROM YOU, you disputed the numbers yourself

I'm not the one making saying, "Well, I'm right because I think I'm right."

My position is backed up by statistics and evidence.