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BossChief 04-26-2010 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6715058)
Studebaker is a tomato can in this system.

A complete tweener who lacks the speed to either rush the passer or drop back in coverage on the outside.

I like his hustle on special teams, but I'd rather see him inside versus outside at this point. He's got the size and burst to be effective as a mike in a 3-4. I don't think he's got the skill set to be effective on the exterior.

Andy is one of the finest small school defensive ends in the country who has put up monster numbers the past two seasons for the Thunder of Wheaton (IL) College. He was named a first-team All-American by Football Digest following the 2006 season, and a first-team preseason (2007) All-American by CDS. Unfortunately, his 2007 season was cut short by a season-ending foot injury that required surgery, and he was not healthy enough to take part in the post-season all star games or the Combine. However, he came back on 4-18-8 to put up one of the most phenomenal pro day workouts ever for a defensive end. Had he been at the Combine, he would have placed first among DEs in the short shuttle (4.14), the 3-cone drill (6.81), the broad jump (10'7"), the vertical jump (36.5") and placed third in the forty-yard dash (4.60). His short shuttle and 3-cone numbers are equivalent to the best numbers put up by DBs at the Combine. The buzz is very late, but very loud for this small school stud.

stick with the facts, sir.

BossChief 04-26-2010 04:05 AM

Not bad for 6'3 255

I know his production has to be taken with a grain of salt because of being at a small school but in 12 games he had 25 tackles for loss and 18 sacks!

heres a link for the stats/times in case you think I pulled them out of thin air.

http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=1412

Blick 04-26-2010 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6715058)
Studebaker is a tomato can in this system.

A complete tweener who lacks the speed to either rush the passer or drop back in coverage on the outside.

I like his hustle on special teams, but I'd rather see him inside versus outside at this point. He's got the size and burst to be effective as a mike in a 3-4. I don't think he's got the skill set to be effective on the exterior.

:spock:

He's a 4.6 guy who was super productive at rushing the passer in college and you want to make him a mike?

Mecca 04-26-2010 04:09 AM

That's awesome he's 2 tenths faster than a guy we just drafted to play safety...

Fairplay 04-26-2010 04:15 AM

Yes we got an A+, i'm so happy!

Now to put an order in for play-off tickets, then superbowl.

Fairplay 04-26-2010 04:18 AM

That picture of Tony Moeaki makes him look like the missing link.

Evolutionist's unite!

BossChief 04-26-2010 04:22 AM

...and what happened when the kid got put on the field?

He had two interceptions and broke the game open for us for one of the most improbable wins I can remember.

Mecca, you remember that game. You made a crazy claim before it. Shit, I can never talk shit about WPI again because of that game...and there was nothing I liked more than talking some good ole shit about WPI. I should be pissed at Andy for taking that from me. (funny though, they have actually done some good work since then ...a couple travesties aside.)

One was a gift, the other was a good break on the ball just outside the endzone that he almost returned all the way before "the Studabaker ran out of gas"

I think that once this kid is ready to take over full time, he will be a big weapon for us.

Mecca 04-26-2010 04:25 AM

Hey maybe he can play, I really don't say much about that, anything is better than Vrabel being out there, my comment was more questioning what we're gonna do with a 4.8 safety.

If we were gonna do that we coulda just picked Myron Rolle even he's faster than that and hey he's smart.

BossChief 04-26-2010 04:33 AM

I bet we felt he would quit football prematurely if he felt the future wasnt there for him early on.

Honestly, I still think that either Page/Morgan locks down the SS spot for the long term.

Morgan is coming up on a make or break year and this is about when most guys that are informed about him expected him to start making strides after being so inexperienced.

I still think he can be a playmaker, but he has a long way to go.

Obviously, I agree about Rolle though. Ive liked him for quite some time now. He was one of "my guys"

Mecca 04-26-2010 04:38 AM

I pretty much said a long time ago that we'd have no interest in drafting Rolle because we'd be one of the teams that would downgrade him for actually having options in life that don't involve football.

BossChief 04-26-2010 04:45 AM

and you were probably right

I can live with it because I value ball skills in the secondary over just about everything else and I feel both Morgan and Page are much better in that category.

I would love to see Morgan show up on a mission this year to earn a starters job no matter what. That kid has immense potential.

Marcellus 04-26-2010 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6715088)
I pretty much said a long time ago that we'd have no interest in drafting Rolle because we'd be one of the teams that would downgrade him for actually having options in life that don't involve football.

You are hilarious. Like every team didn't pass on him at least 5x. He got picked at the very, very back end of the draft.

But yea KC was "ONE" of the teams concerned about his other interest.

I think more likely they may be concerned he isn't really that good. He was projected as a late round pick before he missed a year of football. But you already know that.

SenselessChiefsFan 04-26-2010 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6715088)
I pretty much said a long time ago that we'd have no interest in drafting Rolle because we'd be one of the teams that would downgrade him for actually having options in life that don't involve football.

Rolle NEVER played to his level of talent. Good kid.... but never seemed as committed as he should be. They aren't drafting dumb players that don't have any other options.... they are drafting smart players that LOVE the game.

patteeu 04-26-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6713326)
Begging the question is a logical fallacy

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6713356)
Appealing to authority is also a logical fallacy.

Seriously, you need to review these logical fallacies because it doesn't look like you know what they mean.


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