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Rausch 10-18-2012 10:19 AM
I can see it now:

1) Pioli trades Bowe for 2nd round pick.
2) Pioli pimps idea of how attractive the 1st round QB's are.
3) Pioli takes top 5 pick and trades down, selects DE/OL and takes QB in round 2.
4) Pioli states how he addressed all needs by trading down, adding depth to ol/dl, and QB.
5) Acts confused when 30,000 fans show up angry with torches...

BlackHelicopters 10-18-2012 10:20 AM
Part of Bowe's master plan ever since his hold-out.

RealSNR 10-18-2012 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9027731)
Of course it won't be popular among Chiefs fans. They love Bowe and their love for Bowe is going to blind them from a smart business decision. He's gone, by Tuesday or the offseason. We are 1-5 and competing for the worst team in the league. Call me crazy but I'd rather trade Bowe and get something in return than hold on to him for the rest of the season, for absolutely no ****ing reason, and get nothing.
There's absolutely no reason why this has to be a "smart business decision."

We had a pile of cash waiting to throw at our elite players. Carr was too pricey. Bowe is apparently too pricey. When does this shit end?

For all we know Pioli is saying with this trade, "Okay, gang. Let's regroup. We'll retain Albert, Colquitt, Dorsey, and keep the true fans who love linemen and kickers."

Again. What are we looking at? Two second rounders? Yeah, that's something for nothing if Bowe is apparently really wanting out (which I doubt... he probably just wants to get paid). But geez, if we draft our QB, wouldn't it be ****ing nice to have Bowe instead of Baldwin, Breaston, and a midget?

jd1020 10-18-2012 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9027764)
There's absolutely no reason why this has to be a "smart business decision."

We had a pile of cash waiting to throw at our elite players. Carr was too pricey. Bowe is apparently too pricey. When does this shit end?

For all we know Pioli is saying with this trade, "Okay, gang. Let's regroup. We'll retain Albert, Colquitt, Dorsey, and keep the true fans who love linemen and kickers."
There is more than 1 side to a contract. But of course you knew that.

Carr wanted to be in Dallas. Gonna put a gun to his head and force him to sign the contract?

RealSNR 10-18-2012 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9027768)
There is more than 1 side to a contract. But of course you knew that.

Carr wanted to be in Dallas. Gonna put a gun to his head and force him to sign the contract?
That's fine. So why didn't Pioli get a deal with Bowe done?

BigRock 10-18-2012 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9027749)
No because it makes no ****ing sense for Pioli to leak that info.
You just said "Of course it won't be popular among Chiefs fans." "It" being trading Bowe.

Hearing that Bowe "badly wants out" helps minimize the anger. Makes people think "Well, if he's not staying, we gotta get something for him". As demonstrated repeatedly in this thread.

Wouldn't you say that Pioli just might have an interest in minimizing fan anger these days?

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-18-2012 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9027764)
There's absolutely no reason why this has to be a "smart business decision."

We had a pile of cash waiting to throw at our elite players. Carr was too pricey. Bowe is apparently too pricey. When does this shit end?

For all we know Pioli is saying with this trade, "Okay, gang. Let's regroup. We'll retain Albert, Colquitt, Dorsey, and keep the true fans who love linemen and kickers."

Again. What are we looking at? Two second rounders? Yeah, that's something for nothing if Bowe is apparently really wanting out (which I doubt... he probably just wants to get paid). But geez, if we draft our QB, wouldn't it be ****ing nice to have Bowe instead of Baldwin, Breaston, and a midget?
This.

T-post Tom 10-18-2012 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9027733)
I've seen a lot of speculation on this message board but I have yet to see a single "report" saying he desperately wants out of KC.
Yep.

Molitoth 10-18-2012 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9027768)
There is more than 1 side to a contract. But of course you knew that.

Carr wanted to be in Dallas. Gonna put a gun to his head and force him to sign the contract?
Yup.

Players get old and they want to win. When they spend their careers on a piece of crap team, they want to move elsewhere... it's as simple as that.

The players aren't as loyal as the fans, and they shouldn't be.

If I grew up a Chiefs fan my whole life and got drafted by the Raiders, I would be fucking miserable. (but yes, I would collect my paycheck until my contract was up).

jd1020 10-18-2012 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 9027776)
Wouldn't you say that Pioli just might have an interest in minimizing fan anger these days?
Pioli: Hi, I'd like to introduce you to Cassel. This is me not giving a **** about the fans.

Frosty 10-18-2012 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9027768)
Carr wanted to be in Dallas. Gonna put a gun to his head and force him to sign the contract?
I still think the "Carr always wanted to play for the Cowboys" thing was just damage control. He seemed like he wanted to stay in KC before that and probably would have if Pioli hadn't low-balled him.

jd1020 10-18-2012 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9027775)
That's fine. So why didn't Pioli get a deal with Bowe done?
Bowe has the same goal?... Getting the hell out of KC.

By all accounts, no side budged in negotiations and Bowe held out after being tagged and the deadline for contract talks passed.

Rausch 10-18-2012 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9027764)
There's absolutely no reason why this has to be a "smart business decision."

We had a pile of cash waiting to throw at our elite players. Carr was too pricey. Bowe is apparently too pricey. When does this shit end?
This.

We we're granted a cap exception.

We HAD EXTRA to spend this year after spending under the year before.

Where did we spend it?

Not on Carr. Not on Bowe. Albert isn't signed long term. Dorsey isn't signed long term.

As I understand it cuts this year don't count towards that number. Accelerated bonuses don't count.

Even with the signing of our wilted flower at RT and our highly overpaid CB we still didn't get near that "gifted" cap number.

Brock 10-18-2012 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9027749)
No because it makes no ****ing sense for Pioli to leak that info.

It makes sense for Bowe in every reason.

Pioli has stood behind Cassel for 4 years. You think he gives a **** about your opinion?
If Pioli doesn't care about public opinion, then why is he doing damage control across the KC media? It absolutely makes sense for him to put this on Bowe.

BigRock 10-18-2012 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9027783)
Pioli: Hi, I'd like to introduce you to Cassel. This is me not giving a **** about the fans.
Did you sleep through Pioli's media blitz yesterday?


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